Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

[CommanderTuvok]

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[16bitheretic]

From her video KenD linked in the text:

Uploaded on Jul 20, 2010

Every time I go to download files from a BitTorrent tracker site I am constantly bombarded with ads for sex/dating sites or straight up pornography and I'm sick of it. Women are engaging in online technologies as well and we are repetitively told that we don't belong.

I don't. You know why? Because much of that crap is targeted advertising. Maybe she should stop watching so much damn porn and stop going to dating sites. Then she won't have advertisements for Carpet Munchers IV showing up on her computer screen when her parents come over. Reminds me of this:

Given that she's complained that porn ads appear when trying to download software on torrents, you have to wonder how dense she has to be to complain that legitimate mainstream businesses won't put their ads on places linked to massive pirating of copyrighted software. Really hard to figure out why that happens, eh? Could it possibly be that the only businesses willing to place their ads in such places are shady scammy foreign dating ads and websites desperate to make people think they need to pay money for online porn? I wonder...
:doh:

[free thoughtpolice]

The I wanna be dead thread is closed on pharyngula but someone defends poor Christ Clarke on the Sarkeesian thread just to show support and place the blame for his persecution squarely where it belongs: Damn MRAs!!

It could be me, but many of the commentors seemed to be ones I am generally unfamiliar with…. Especially given that I hang out here pretty regularly. My suspicion is that his post drew comments from MRA faux-concern trolls, simply because the post nominally touched on feminist issues. Chris seemed genuinely hurt and apologetic over the accusations. Not his bad…At all..Send him my love. He was clearly punked by the trolls. fuck those ‘people’. I don’t buy none of them crocodile tears. If I have any criticism of Clarke’s posts, it’s that he’s TOO nice and considerate!

[welch]

Now he's directing Twitter folk to the A+ forum! Ye gods this is too good. The more people that see that place the better.

This whole story is fanfuckingtastic. It's like the entire Pit has met up at a Michelin restaurant, with only pennies between them, but then the manager has come over and said "I'm closing down tonight, all my best chefs are in the kitchen, have at it." And so lobster follows filet mignon, follows truffles, follows caviar...

"Hey guys, remember that hobo we were nice to? IT WAS RICHARD BRANSON, HE JUST GAVE US A MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE WE WERE RIGHTEOUS DUDES TO HIM!"

[welch]

Try to contain your excitement: Sarkeesian's new video is here.

[youtube]LjImnqH_KwM[/youtube]

She needs a new shirt.

Judging by the work that's gone into them she probably filmed them all in the same day.

Hey, it's hard work scouring youtube for other people's videos that you can use while talking out of your ass.

[welch]

Pharyngula's toxic commentariat (in this case Matt Penfold) has become too toxic even for Chris Clarke:

I misread that, the toxic commenter who made Chris Clarke flounce was Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought.

Looks like PZ has a vacancy. Maybe he can find a new clone. I can't say I have too much sympathy for CC. He has been happy ridiculing dissenting commenters himself, contributing to the toxic atmosphere. Still, I hope he will be alright.

I hope he rereads his shit and realizes what a first-class turd he's been and I never have to hear his name again. Poor baby, created a shithole and is now leaving because it actually smells bad. Wah.

[welch]

Try to contain your excitement: Sarkeesian's new video is here.

[youtube]LjImnqH_KwM[/youtube]

She needs a new shirt.

Judging by the work that's gone into them she probably filmed them all in the same day.

I liked the first one quite a bit, but here in Part 3 she has run out of gas. I get it - Damsels, they are in Distress in video games. She thinks they shouldn't be. I got it.

Did that include all the parts where she completely misrepresented the games she was talking about?

[Southern]

From her video KenD linked in the text:

Uploaded on Jul 20, 2010

Every time I go to download files from a BitTorrent tracker site I am constantly bombarded with ads for sex/dating sites or straight up pornography and I'm sick of it. Women are engaging in online technologies as well and we are repetitively told that we don't belong.

I don't. You know why? Because much of that crap is targeted advertising. Maybe she should stop watching so much damn porn and stop going to dating sites. Then she won't have advertisements for Carpet Munchers IV showing up on her computer screen when her parents come over. Reminds me of this:

Given that she's complained that porn ads appear when trying to download software on torrents, you have to wonder how dense she has to be to complain that legitimate mainstream businesses won't put their ads on places linked to massive pirating of copyrighted software. Really hard to figure out why that happens, eh? Could it possibly be that the only businesses willing to place their ads in such places are shady scammy foreign dating ads and websites desperate to make people think they need to pay money for online porn? I wonder...
:doh:

She's dense enough to not install AdBlock Plus on her browser before going to Pirate Bay to search shit, the dumb cunt.

Also, I made a little experiment: I accessed Pirate Bay with my old, reliable IE (no Ad Block Plus) and searched for Arrested Development, my favorite series of all time. I got an advertise for a 3D fishtank app (wtf?), an advertise for some shmuck singer called Lil Seven, and an advertise for some malwar called "Windows Media Player Plus" or whatever. No naked women AT ALL.

Now, if I go there and search for anything porn-related - let's say, "carpet muncher" (returning 1 result!), then BAM! Porn ads all over the screen.

The dumb cunt, being dumb AND a cunt, inadvertedly revealed to the world that she likes to search for porn on torrent trackers. No problem with that, of course, unless you are a bitchy radfem who thinks porn is degrating to women.

[CommanderTuvok]

The I wanna be dead thread is closed on pharyngula but someone defends poor Christ Clarke on the Sarkeesian thread just to show support and place the blame for his persecution squarely where it belongs: Damn MRAs!!

They remind me of the people who suddenly, out of nowhere, blame THE JEWS - whatever the topic.

[welch]

Given that she's complained that porn ads appear when trying to download software on torrents, you have to wonder how dense she has to be to complain that legitimate mainstream businesses won't put their ads on places linked to massive pirating of copyrighted software. Really hard to figure out why that happens, eh? Could it possibly be that the only businesses willing to place their ads in such places are shady scammy foreign dating ads and websites desperate to make people think they need to pay money for online porn? I wonder...
:doh:

She's dense enough to not install AdBlock Plus on her browser before going to Pirate Bay to search shit, the dumb cunt.

Also, I made a little experiment: I accessed Pirate Bay with my old, reliable IE (no Ad Block Plus) and searched for Arrested Development, my favorite series of all time. I got an advertise for a 3D fishtank app (wtf?), an advertise for some shmuck singer called Lil Seven, and an advertise for some malwar called "Windows Media Player Plus" or whatever. No naked women AT ALL.

Now, if I go there and search for anything porn-related - let's say, "carpet muncher" (returning 1 result!), then BAM! Porn ads all over the screen.

The dumb cunt, being dumb AND a cunt, inadvertedly revealed to the world that she likes to search for porn on torrent trackers. No problem with that, of course, unless you are a bitchy radfem who thinks porn is degrating to women.

Does she say what she was specifically searching for when she sees the porn ads? Or does she just assume everyone will connect the dots in a convenient fashion.

[Parody Accountant]

She's dense enough to not install AdBlock Plus on her browser before going to Pirate Bay to search shit, the dumb cunt.

Also, I made a little experiment: I accessed Pirate Bay with my old, reliable IE (no Ad Block Plus) and searched for Arrested Development, my favorite series of all time. I got an advertise for a 3D fishtank app (wtf?), an advertise for some shmuck singer called Lil Seven, and an advertise for some malwar called "Windows Media Player Plus" or whatever. No naked women AT ALL.

Now, if I go there and search for anything porn-related - let's say, "carpet muncher" (returning 1 result!), then BAM! Porn ads all over the screen.

The dumb cunt, being dumb AND a cunt, inadvertedly revealed to the world that she likes to search for porn on torrent trackers. No problem with that, of course, unless you are a bitchy radfem who thinks porn is degrating to women.

Or married to / dating a person who searchers for porn on torrent trackers.

[clownshoe]

The I wanna be dead thread is closed on pharyngula but someone defends poor Christ Clarke on the Sarkeesian thread just to show support and place the blame for his persecution squarely where it belongs: Damn MRAs!!

It could be me, but many of the commentors seemed to be ones I am generally unfamiliar with…. Especially given that I hang out here pretty regularly. My suspicion is that his post drew comments from MRA faux-concern trolls, simply because the post nominally touched on feminist issues. Chris seemed genuinely hurt and apologetic over the accusations. Not his bad…At all..Send him my love. He was clearly punked by the trolls. fuck those ‘people’. I don’t buy none of them crocodile tears. If I have any criticism of Clarke’s posts, it’s that he’s TOO nice and considerate!

How much Kool Aid do you have to drink to get to that level of paranoid illogical fervour?
Arguments like that are bound to happen when everyone is so self righteous, that's one of the reasons the A+ forum delivered the laughs on a regular basis: the arguments over the most petty, irrelevant things, between people that should have been allies.

[katamari Damassi]

So I'm going to my first Con ever. It's not an atheist/skeptic con it's an HP Lovecraft one. You'll be happy to know that they have an anti-harassment policy so I'll be perfectly safe there.

[AndrewV69]

Am I the only one amused by the seemingly limitless hatred of this Hugo Schwyzer dude? The guy has a checkered past, apparently, but there seems to be more hate for him than there is for us.

Checkered past? I guess that is one way of describing it.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/08/01 ... ants-down/

46-year-old male feminist and gender studies teacher Hugo Schwyzer, who has recently been on a campaign against older men who lust after young women, has been caught in an affair with a 27-year-old sex worker. Schwyzer has a self-confessed history of sleeping with his students, attempted murder and paternity fraud. Given his brazen dishonesty and selfish behavior, I think it’s reasonable to suspect that the man has psychopathic tendencies.

http://glpiggy.net/2013/08/01/few-hugs-for-hugo/

I was barely shocked to learn that Hugo Schwyzer had a mental breakdown and will not be writing online for a while. He also won’t be teaching his porn class. In case you missed it, Schwyzer had been receiving a lot of criticism from feminists about some things he did in his past which included sleeping with students and almost trying to kill an ex-girlfriend.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/07/male-fe ... ement.html

Schwyzer has been a divisive figure in the lady blogosphere since he was treated to a glowing interview on Feministe in late 2011. In response, commenters and other bloggers dug up Schwyzer's old blog posts (since deleted), in which he confessed to trying to kill himself and his ex-girlfriend with fumes from a gas stove during a period of drug and alcohol addiction fifteen years ago. Feminist bloggers took issue not just with his past (which included sleeping with many of his students), but with how they believed Schwyzer capitalized on his bad-boy redemption story.

[AndrewV69]

So I'm going to my first Con ever. It's not an atheist/skeptic con it's an HP Lovecraft one. You'll be happy to know that they have an anti-harassment policy so I'll be perfectly safe there.

Ummm... excuse me?

Feeling safe at a H. P. Lovecraft con? Somehow that just strikes me as wrong on so many levels.

[AndrewV69]

Oh, and in case you missed it:

HugoLeaks: Male Feminist Hugo Schwyzer’s Sexting Scandal Exposed (NSFW)
http://therealpornwikileaks.com/hugolea ... osed-nsfw/

[katamari Damassi]

So I'm going to my first Con ever. It's not an atheist/skeptic con it's an HP Lovecraft one. You'll be happy to know that they have an anti-harassment policy so I'll be perfectly safe there.

Ummm... excuse me?

Feeling safe at a H. P. Lovecraft con? Somehow that just strikes me as wrong on so many levels.

Well I'll be safe from harassers, not tentacled nameless horrors from beyond space and time.

[Guest]

Re: http://therealpornwikileaks.com/hugolea ... osed-nsfw/

Can someone explain to me what Hugo means when he says "I'm erect as a rock".

Do people normally think of rocks as things that get erect?

[Percentage]

Uh, I'm not really seeing the big deal here. A 45 year old dude and a 27 year old woman? On the telephone? I don't see how that makes him Feminist Satan.

[DownThunder]

Uh, I'm not really seeing the big deal here. A 45 year old dude and a 27 year old woman? On the telephone? I don't see how that makes him Feminist Satan.

Well, is that from a feminist perspective? I cant see that relation dynamic going down well in any feminist circle, even if they do pay lip service to respecting others consent and free choice. Animosity to that aspect of male sexuality is a long standing problem with feminism and female political activism in general.

[Guest]

Uh, I'm not really seeing the big deal here. A 45 year old dude and a 27 year old woman? On the telephone? I don't see how that makes him Feminist Satan.

The problem is his wife, his two kids, and his prior history.

He says he had to save his marriage, so his wife is clearly not as whatever about his sexting as you are.

And that comes on top of all of his prior indiscretions, including multiple affairs against his prior 3 wives, sleeping with students, attempted murder, having a kid and defrauding the man whose name was put on the birth certificate.

And all of that on top of a men are evil, let Hugo tell you why, history of hypocritical, sociopathic feminist writings on his part.

possibly google hugo schwyzer slutwalk, there's a good rant from a feminist to explain how even his support of slutwalk was misogynistic.

MRAs have been telling people for years that Hugo is a sociopath. That he has terrible behavior, terrible ethics, and cannot accept responsibility for it, so he pins all the blame on men, even though most men would never ever do the things he does.

Then feminists just ate up his male bashing and gave him a pass, and literally would defend his affairs with students and all his other bad behaviors and say he is so fuckable and adorable of course it was okay.

So like most hypocrites, the behavior out of context is not so horrible, it is the behavior coming from the person denouncing that behavior as horrible and evil that identifies that person.

[Percentage]

Well, is that from a feminist perspective?

I mean, maybe from Myers', who is a sex-negative radfem however much he evades the issue. But I think most of the rest of FtB are legitimately sex-positive. After all, most of them are on the youngish side and probably having crazy mammal sex themselves.

[Skep tickle]

If anyone posted this in the past 2-3 days, I missed it.

Classicist Mary Beard was interviewed on a radio program & was talking about abuse she'd received on the internet.

Some guy decided to tweet some pretty rude comments to her, calling her a slut & who knows what else. (The original tweet & her retweet of it have been deleted, though I imagine someone can find a copy if they really want to.)

Anyway, the guy apparently had not thought through the whole "tweeting under your real name" part of it....

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/twitter-troll ... ll-his-mum

Sounds like Mary Beard handled it well, retweeting his comments, then after someone offered to give her the guy's mother's mailing address, she gave him some time to apologize & delete his tweet.

It sounds like she didn't contact his mother after all (though one imagines his mum has probably now heard about it).

[AndrewV69]

Uh, I'm not really seeing the big deal here. A 45 year old dude and a 27 year old woman? On the telephone? I don't see how that makes him Feminist Satan.

As a supposedly proper male Feminist Hugo knows that what he did was beyond the pale.

Generally speaking a 45 year old woman can not compete with a 27 year old woman in terms of physical attractiveness, so that sort of situation must be discouraged by all means possible, especially if you are a Feminist because he is supposed to adhere to the rules of the Sexual Trade Union.

See here:
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/02 ... wer/[quote]
“Female Sexual Power” is the title of my book (2008, in Finnish only!) and part of the title of my master thesis (2006) in sociology (Female sexual power: The critique of feminist equality paradigm). This article is an introduction to the ideas of the book.[/quote]

and here:
http://theantifeminist.com/the-sexual-trade-union/

Feminism exists as a defender of the selfish sexual and reproductive interests of aging and/or unattractive women.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Yemmy's got a new poem out. I'm guessing she's broomed the tsunami then: http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynisting/?p=1232

Sound of the bees buzzing
Everything is getting fuzzy
As you nimble on my nipples
Your tongue in me dribbles

Yemministing. Supplying services to celibacy since 2013.

I never could get into Vogon erotica.

[KiwiInOz]

Yemmy's got a new poem out. I'm guessing she's broomed the tsunami then: http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynisting/?p=1232

Sound of the bees buzzing
Everything is getting fuzzy
As you nimble on my nipples
Your tongue in me dribbles

Yemministing. Supplying services to celibacy since 2013.

I never could get into Vogon erotica.

Sound of the roosters crowing
Look how my cock has grown
As you nimble on my drumstick
I dribble on your tongue quick

[KiwiInOz]

Come on people. Write something so my god awful drivel/doggerel can be swamped and hidden.

[Gefan]

Also, maybe Thunderf00t could weigh in on how he publicly forced PCS/VenomFangX to tear himself a new one...

You still on holiday mate?

Yep, but glancing in from time to time to see that you fuckers are behaving.

In fucking Swindon right now in a hotel that bills itself a 4*, but NO FUCKING A/C. Cunts.

Off to the Fleet Air Arm Museum in Yeovilton, then to Salisbury with Mrs Lsuoma.

Ah, Swindon. The vacation mecca. Can't believe our Glorious Leader is still hovering, protectively over us instead of hanging out at a tiki bar on one of those magnificent white, sandy beaches or maybe going on a hot air balloon safari.

[DeepInsideYourMind]

New pet theory...

We all know the loudest protesters are usually harbouring deep seated hidden thoughts .... like those vehement homophobes, who we all know are gay, and usually turn out to be just that ...

Maybe all these staunch vehement feminists are secretly misogynists :)

[Skep tickle]

Hello, 66 guests.

Be "warned", on casual inspection & by self report from the denizens here, it seems that everyone who posts at the 'Pit who can be associated with a twitter account is listed as an undesirable by Oolon's Block Bot.

It seems that being associated with the 'Pit earns you a Level 2 position on the The Block Bot, regardless of any actual thing you've ever otherwise done or said or written - and even if your Twitter account has basically never been used.

Oolon himself has been a victim of "guilt by association", as his participation at the 'Pit was why he was banned from Pharyngula for a while, a while back. But he's found ways to ingratiate himself back into their fold, with The Block Bot perhaps being one of his tools.

Oh, and while you're here, dear guests, have you heard about Oolon saving a copy of an image that appeared to be kiddie porn?

Here's something of a summary post, including quoting a post in which Oolon admits to sending it to another site: viewtopic.php?p=30437#p30437 (and if you go forward, and backward, from that post you'll find more posts about that event, jumbled in with other discussion since that's how we roll in the 'Pit).

[Gefan]

...And, with only $158,000 from her kickstarter, she probably didn't have enough money to keep herself in plaid shirts, hoop ear-rings and actually play all the games or hire an assistant to make sure she didn't get things completely wrong...
...But then why would she tell people the correct story? She doesn't care for what 'actually' happened. She needed something for her bullshit video series. So she made something up.

This all sounds strangely reminiscent of a movie I once saw...

[youtube]on46ctEW8R0[/youtube]

[bovarchist]

His fingers, dusty with Cheetos orange
On her clit make her squeak like a rusty doorhinge

[VAXherd]

Come on people. Write something so my god awful drivel/doggerel can be swamped and hidden.

Since you asked so nicely, and I am in DIRE need of frivolity just now. Here's some cuteness from a local park, and some weirdness from the BBC.

[youtube]AIa3p4ri4-M[/youtube]

[youtube]F85LqBBLyMg[/youtube]

[Guest]

While we're on the subect of stupid computer programs, you guys are gonna love this. A Scottish feminist by the name of Alyson MacDonald made a "Female Experience Simulator" that is supposed to replicate the harassment women suffer or some shit. Trigger Warning, may induce laughter.
http://brightgreenscotland.org/wp-conte ... lator.html

[Tony Parsehole]

Oh, and while you're here, dear guests, have you heard about Oolon saving a copy of an image that appeared to be kiddie porn?

Here's something of a summary post, including quoting a post in which Oolon admits to sending it to another site: viewtopic.php?p=30437#p30437 (and if you go forward, and backward, from that post you'll find more posts about that event, jumbled in with other discussion since that's how we roll in the 'Pit).

Ahhh....That was a fine evening. I remember it well.

While we're on the subect of stupid computer programs, you guys are gonna love this. A Scottish feminist by the name of Alyson MacDonald made a "Female Experience Simulator" that is supposed to replicate the harassment women suffer or some shit. Trigger Warning, may induce laughter.
http://brightgreenscotland.org/wp-conte ... lator.html

Thanks to the "Female Experience Simulator" I now know how it truly feels to be a woman. No matter where I went or what I wore I was groped and sexually harassed.

Strange, but when my gorgeous girlfriend walks to the town or goes shopping on her own she doesn't come home and tell me about being verbally abused and molested in the street. Maybe it happens so often she doesn't feel the need to tell me?

[Guest]

As a supposedly proper male Feminist Hugo knows that what he did was beyond the pale.

Generally speaking a 45 year old woman can not compete with a 27 year old woman in terms of physical attractiveness, so that sort of situation must be discouraged by all means possible, especially if you are a Feminist because he is supposed to adhere to the rules of the Sexual Trade Union.

Scumbag Andrew: hears of guy cheating on his wife, brings SMV shit to the subject to take a jab at feminism.

[Guest]

Thanks to the "Female Experience Simulator" I now know how it truly feels to be a woman. No matter where I went or what I wore I was groped and sexually harassed.

Strange, but when my gorgeous girlfriend walks to the town or goes shopping on her own she doesn't come home and tell me about being verbally abused and molested in the street. Maybe it happens so often she doesn't feel the need to tell me?

Perhaps the USA is just as insane as furreigns think and women over there *are* groped and harassed all the time.

(To be honest, I'm really thinking of a scenario where your girlfriend is a nympho who gets groped all the time and actually enjoys it but I couldn't say that, except in parentheses)

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Oh! A troll!!!

On the Slymepit, of all places!

[Tony Parsehole]

Thanks to the "Female Experience Simulator" I now know how it truly feels to be a woman. No matter where I went or what I wore I was groped and sexually harassed.

Strange, but when my gorgeous girlfriend walks to the town or goes shopping on her own she doesn't come home and tell me about being verbally abused and molested in the street. Maybe it happens so often she doesn't feel the need to tell me?

Perhaps the USA is just as insane as furreigns think and women over there *are* groped and harassed all the time.

Perhaps it is....But the simulator was created by a Scot.

(To be honest, I'm really thinking of a scenario where your girlfriend is a nympho who gets groped all the time and actually enjoys it but I couldn't say that, except in parentheses)

She is a nympho.
She does get groped all the time.
She does enjoy it.

Giggity.

[ianfc]

[youtube]uOoXwxqeVzg[/youtube]

[decius]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

[TedDahlberg]

Yemmy's got a new poem out. I'm guessing she's broomed the tsunami then: http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynisting/?p=1232

Sound of the bees buzzing
Everything is getting fuzzy
As you nimble on my nipples
Your tongue in me dribbles

Yemministing. Supplying services to celibacy since 2013.

Sound of the roosters crowing
Look how my cock has grown
As you nimble on my drumstick
I dribble on your tongue quick

Sound of the anteater slurping
Making my squishy loins sing
Jack be nimble on my candlestick
Ants dribble from your tonguelick

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

Still reading, but there's quite a load of bullshit in his introduction. I'm crossed between "Fuck Tim" and "Thanks Tim". what to do, what to do...

[Guest]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

Still reading, but there's quite a load of bullshit in his introduction. I'm crossed between "Fuck Tim" and "Thanks Tim". what to do, what to do...

Yesterday, Cathy Young wrote an article "The broken dialogue on men’s rights" http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013 ... aign=sm_tw

In her article, she, as she has always done in her 20 years of writing, spoke authoritatively on men's issues and in defense of men, and wrote about how feminists attack and undermine the men they claim feminism is there to support.

And she included two short paragraphs on extremism in the men's rights movement, spending one entire sentence on a voice for men.

To which Paul Elam burst blood vessels in his temple and his taint to decry this horrible misandric bitch. Because Paul and AVFM is unable to take any criticism without going over the top, which oddly enough, is basically what Cathy Young says.

Anyway, I mostly skipped Tim's introduction but what I read seemed reasonably stated even if I disagreed with some particulars. And the payoff was a very well written review (and takedown of BBC's shoddy interview.)

[decius]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

Still reading, but there's quite a load of bullshit in his introduction. I'm crossed between "Fuck Tim" and "Thanks Tim". what to do, what to do...

Like I said, don't read much into it. He's a close friend of some of the victims of the FTBullies. You can be sure that he takes a dim view of certain people.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I think I'll go for a "Thanks Tim".

[Trophy]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

Good article. I don't think the initial remarks about harrassment are off though. RW, AS, and many other women do get a lot of nasty comments from trolls as do many other public figures such as Richard Dawkins. FFS, Christopher Hitchens had a whole webpage dedicated to trolling him and saying nasty things about him. So his comments are not off but they are not the whole story. He doesn't mention that often they call criticism trolling but I can understand why he doesn't want to open that particular can of worms in an unrelated discussion.

[bovarchist]

While we're on the subect of stupid computer programs, you guys are gonna love this. A Scottish feminist by the name of Alyson MacDonald made a "Female Experience Simulator" that is supposed to replicate the harassment women suffer or some shit. Trigger Warning, may induce laughter.
http://brightgreenscotland.org/wp-conte ... lator.html

So...her biggest problem in life is that she's attractive and lots of people want to be with her? Ten or twenty years later, her biggest problem will be "Why doesn't anybody hit on me anymore?"

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll just go sit in the corner alone like a dog.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

Good article. I don't think the initial remarks about harrassment are off though. RW, AS, and many other women do get a lot of nasty comments from trolls as do many other public figures such as Richard Dawkins. FFS, Christopher Hitchens had a whole webpage dedicated to trolling him and saying nasty things about him. So his comments are not off but they are not the whole story. He doesn't mention that often they call criticism trolling but I can understand why he doesn't want to open that particular can of worms in an unrelated discussion.

So, not harassment against women because they are women? Maybe against what stupid shit they can say (even if they are women)?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Correction:

Maybe against what stupid shit

Should read

whatever you disaprove with

My bad.

[Trophy]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

Good article. I don't think the initial remarks about harrassment are off though. RW, AS, and many other women do get a lot of nasty comments from trolls as do many other public figures such as Richard Dawkins. FFS, Christopher Hitchens had a whole webpage dedicated to trolling him and saying nasty things about him. So his comments are not off but they are not the whole story. He doesn't mention that often they call criticism trolling but I can understand why he doesn't want to open that particular can of worms in an unrelated discussion.

So, not harassment against women because they are women? Maybe against what stupid shit they can say (even if they are women)?

To be honest, I don't know if the degree of the harrassment they receive is because they are women or because they are provocative. Certainly part of the harrassment that they receive is due to their fame and the nature of their arguments but it's hard to make any claism (backed up by evidence) on whether or not their gender has any effect on the harrassment that they receive.

[Trophy]

On the AS pharyngula thread:

Hey, video game designers: I’d love to play a game where I manage to evade a wedding and get to become a freaking assassin. Even if the rest of the universe is sexist as fuck.

Sigh. I'm sure there are plenty of games but just off the top of my head: Dragon Age Origins, female city elf origin (and then rogue class).

It is the wedding day for both the City Elf and their cousin, Soris. While exploring the Alienage, a local lord named Vaughan and some acquaintances arrive and are abusive towards the women. Another of the City Elf's cousins, Shianni, knocks him unconscious at which point his friends carry him away. Shortly afterwards, Duncan arrives, revealing that he is searching for new Grey Wardens, and also that he knew the City Elf's mother whom he had attempted to recruit years ago. The City Elf eventually joins the wedding ceremony, but before it can be completed, Vaughan returns with armed guards and abducts all the women, including the City Elf if she is female. If the City Elf is male he goes on a rescue mission with Soris, if she is female she awakens in a room with three other elves including Soris's betrothed and Shianni.

There are various differences in the story between male and female players; for example, a male City Elf will have to fight his way into the castle with Soris, while a female City Elf will fight her way out. Eventually Soris and the Warden will find their way into the room with Vaughan and his friends, with Shianni on the floor. Vaughan attempts to buy his way out of the situation by promising 40 sovereigns if the City Elf leaves without the women. The City Elf can take the offer, however the share of the money will be confiscated by the city guards, unless it is decided that the money be stashed outside the estate; the stash can be collected much later in the story. If the City Elf refuses his offer, Vaughan and his friends will fight.

[TedDahlberg]

Tim Farley has reverse-engineered the Failbot.

His competent and hilarious review is here. He tries to sound as neutral and even-handed as possible. Don't read much into his initial remarks about harassment.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/2013/08/ ... eism-plus/

Still reading, but there's quite a load of bullshit in his introduction. I'm crossed between "Fuck Tim" and "Thanks Tim". what to do, what to do...

I left this comment:

Thank you for an interesting blog post. It was level-headed and not bananas at all.
I had a look and found that I am a level 3 undesirable. I can only assume this is because I occasionally comment on the Slymepit (mostly silly stuff of no consequence). Because on Twitter I have never interacted with anyone I didn't already know, except for a handful of tweets at a couple of podcasters. I have made a grand total of 53 tweets, and I invite anyone to take a look at them to find anything very objectionable. I tweet under my real name. I believe I have one retweet of a picture vaguely related to someone barely connected to A+, otherwise I avoid internet drama, thank you very much.
I therefore have to presume that it is my mere existence that is tedious and obnoxious.

[bovarchist]

I just got an email from Paul Mason at the BBC saying they've released an official statement about the complaints, but damned if I can find it on their website.

[KenD]

Uh, I'm not really seeing the big deal here. A 45 year old dude and a 27 year old woman? On the telephone? I don't see how that makes him Feminist Satan.

Hugo has repeatedly criticised men who pursue younger women. See this column in The Atlantic for example:

If there's one tangible thing that men can do to help end sexism—and create a healthier culture in which young people come of age—it's to stop chasing after women young enough to be their biological daughters. As hyperbolic as it may sound, there are few more powerful actions that men can take to transform the culture than to date, mate, and stay with their approximate chronological peers. If aging guys would commit to doing this, everyone would benefit: older men and younger men, older women and younger women.

His moralistic preaching and shaming of other men always went down really well in feminist circles, but now it's contributing to a backlash that's out of proportion with his latest transgression.

It's like a fundamentalist preacher getting caught with a dick in his mouth; it's the hypocrisy that's noteworthy, not what he actually did.

[Tribble]

Yemmy's got a new poem out. I'm guessing she's broomed the tsunami then: http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynisting/?p=1232

Sound of the bees buzzing
Everything is getting fuzzy
As you nimble on my nipples
Your tongue in me dribbles

Yemministing. Supplying services to celibacy since 2013.

The thought of her in that context made me a little nauseous.

[Gefan]

So, I typed Hugo Schwyzer's name into Youtube and the first two results are connected to him and the LA Slut Walk. This is chucklesome in itself but when I started listening to him speaking at the event (the second clip) I couldn't help hearing in mind what he must have been thinking looking out at the crowd.

There's a level of shamelessness that I find quite endearing. It's like Newt Gingrich lambasting Bill Clinton's (legitimately awful) personal behavior and then going home and banging his mistress in his wife's bed. You just have to take a step back and salute the sheer monstrous size of some people's balls. By the time Newt declared that his womanizing was a product of his sheer love of America you had to wonder how he fit those things in his pants.
Maybe Schwyzer uses the same tailor.

[Tigzy]

Far be it for me to cast aspersions on someone's looks ( :-) ) but I do think that Oolon would really lose some weight if you pricked his skin with a fork.

[deLurch]

His moralistic preaching and shaming of other men always went down really well in feminist circles, but now it's contributing to a backlash that's out of proportion with his latest transgression.

It's like a fundamentalist preacher getting caught with a dick in his mouth; it's the hypocrisy that's noteworthy, not what he actually did.

Yup. Sometimes the people who preach the hardest, are the ones with all of the problems. It's kind of like how some ex-smokers bitch up a storm and moralize the fuck out of you for smoking. But catch them at midnight in a bar and you will see them bumming a cigarette.

[Tribble]

On the AS pharyngula thread:

Hey, video game designers: I’d love to play a game where I manage to evade a wedding and get to become a freaking assassin. Even if the rest of the universe is sexist as fuck.

Sigh. I'm sure there are plenty of games but just off the top of my head: Dragon Age Origins, female city elf origin (and then rogue class).

The irony is, much of the problem in gaming is caused by loud-mouth, hyper-partisan SJWs who are bound and determined to find fault in everything.

Take the recent Lara Croft flap -- that character was written and developed by Rhianna Pratchett (Terry Pratchett's daughter). She even wanted to make Lara gay. But Lara wasn't good enough for the SJW crowd. She was a victim of (an apparent) attempted rape (though she fucks the rapist over). That was just so unacceptable to them.

And that feeds into to developers deciding to stay away from women and minorities lest they get attacked. Ryan Creighton, a designer on Spellirium, said it best as to why is characters are all white men: "for fear of someone calling me out for my non-white or non-male character being stereotypical, offensive, or - at the absolute worst - outright racist or sexist."

He recognizes the no-win situation and deals with it as well as he can -- playing into the least offensive of their complaints -- writing white-male characters as leads. Otherwise it's an almost certain attack on him by the easy-to-offend SJW. Attacks that can have long-lasting professional consequences.

Of course, this, sooner or later, leads to other charges and the SJWs complaining about how there are no 'left-handed, black-lesbians -- patriarchy!' When, in fact, it's a response to the no-win situations of prior criticisms by various SJW factions. But Creighton plays it safe and takes the lower tier of failure -- phony charges of insensitivity -- than risking the higher level of failure -- phony charges of racism/sexism.