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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tigzy wrote:
Apples wrote:Setar just went Full Setar again:
And, um...I can't help but see the similarities between Fascist organizations and the Slymepit. It's like the 'pitters are the internet equivalent of Fascist reactionaries like Golden Dawn -- or, hell, the early Nazis (OH NOES, I REFERENCED TEH NAZIS).
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F97DHpMHe_0/R ... -sitar.jpg
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 990#p72990
I like e4e5's response there - unfortunately, given that he/she has only made 21 posts, I'm expecting a due bannination from the mods for daring to question the authority of Setar's longish hair.

OOps and I have no issue with what he says as being called immature is fine, it's his opinion. Ban inc.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Mr Danksworth wrote:
Jan Steen wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BEyIF9L.jpg

(You didn't really think I could kill those adorable creatures?)
Shooting the 'it was all a dream' trope a bit early, dontcha think? It's usually saved for when all of the good ideas are spent. What's next? A pirahana on water skis jumping a shark? Lol.
Yeah, I had thought the death was a metaphor for the move to ftb from sb with a new tank and the deletion of the comments on sb. The bannings and flounces too. I figured there'd be a new tank (ftb) and a new bunch of fish... because there's always a new bunch of fish.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Haha, yes!
"Hi, I'm Steersman."
"Citation needed, idjit fuckwit."
"Er, well, that's the name I've given myself. There's no official record, but I suppose I could..."
"Citation needed. Peer-reviewed publications only, try Google Scholar, presuppositional loser."
"No, listen, this is a created name, it is not recorded in any government papers, I mean this is the internet so I..."
"Citation needed, liberturd fuckwit, otherwise all you have is OPINION and no EVIDENCE, so you can be *SPLADOOSH* dismissed as a liberturd idjit fuckwitted Republican misogynist Meyers Rebecca Watson sexism...Youtube...*splutter*...women...porcupine...*fizz*...*spark*...scientific literature...citation...*bang*...*terminal error in Nerd software*...
*giggles*

I had many encounters with him and they always went like this. When I told him that "his side" is making the claims so in best Nerd spirit would have to bring evidence for them, he wasn't seen for days. Presumably after a factory reset, he came back and asked where my evidence is. Maybe I should try to confuse him some more. It is however, not seen as funny to counter Nerd with his own weapons. As usual, the standard rules of interaction at FfTB come out in a way that protect their idiosyncracies. Effectively, Nerd, ironically, never needs to back up any points as when you ask him to bring evidence, it will automatically be seen as making fun of him.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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AnonymousCowherd wrote:
Steersman wrote:
But “crazier than shit-house rats” is the phrase that springs to mind to describe the FfTB cohort there ….
Except the phrase is "cunning as a shit-house rat" and that only applies to RW.
crazier than a shit-house rat

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Submariner wrote:

OK. No one link to my videos, it's an attack on me. /jeez
OK, we won't.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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I'm sure this has been discussed but it makes me laugh every time over at A+:

New User: Hi everyone. I heard you were for Social Justice, Humanism and sticking up for people. You sound like really decent people.

Mod: Hi New User. Here's a of 9 links you must read and memorise before you proceed. Failure to do so will result in your
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banning. Please also note that we reserve the right to make stuff up as we go so we can kick you out after lots of abuse. Have a pleasant stay!!!!

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4149

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Lsuoma wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:In other news,

Eucliwood has a blog now:
http://slymepitintrom.blogspot.ca/

I dunno why but right now I am thinking of this line from Ozymandias:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
- Shelley

What hath the Slymepit done now? What forces hath been unleashed?
Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, that girl needs some help. I'm glad she doesn't know my address (1080 W. Addison, Chicago, IL).
I think this part at the bottom of the page is the creepy bit:

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9704 ... d366d4.png

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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ERV wrote:
ButterCup wrote:https://twitter.com/rebeccawatson/statu ... 6681465857
****IMAGESNIP******

So, are SJWs ALLOWED to be friends with the person who started Fark.com?
I would think he would be high up on their ever expanding shit list.
Famous successful people Twatson has not been introduced to: Some rude, weird, bro (her words).

Famous successful people Twatson has been introduced to: PALS!!! See, Im not a factory standard bitch who got caught using her factory standard bitch moves against a famous successful geek I mistook for a normie! I TOTALLY knew who he was. For REALZ. And look at these famous successful geek PALS I have! I am such a famous successful geek too!! SMERG!!
Someone upthread mentioned a review of the panel where RW was referred to as "the feminist chick." These people are nobodies outside of their narrow little circle-jerk. Those tweets were RW yelling, "I AM SOMEONE! PEOPLE KNOW ME! I AM RELEVANT!" in response to the yawning, "Who was that rude idiot?" reaction she got.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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I held joining here by a week or so due to Eucliwoods posts, something was not right. With people like that you have to totally disengage but while one or two 'pitters here keep talking to him/her (such as at Nugents) that won't happen. I have doubts about her age and sex as well for that matter.

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Re: curse my shyness

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Apples wrote:Sorry Lsuoma - can't resist.
Eucliwoo wrote:I do have a habit of having more and more to say when I'm frustrated, but I didn't end up adding anything to the emails I sent.

I sent him TWO more fucking emails that he absolutely deserved and now it's "a ton of mail." Originally a couple of days ago I decided to give up on asking, but he's not happy with that.

It may seem a bit passionate to other people, the exact email I sent him, about what he said to me on a forum to people who may show up around on comments in places, but I simply cannot tolerate being lied about or thought of as doing things I never did. It angers me, a hell of a lot. I would go to great lengths just to prove to someone that they were wrong, or correct them on something. That's just how I am.

I still haven't forgiven the woman who carelessly accused me of being involved in BEATING her small son 4 years ago. Hate the bitch. I've forgiven her son who first accused us, though. The little liar.

So, as long as I exist and know of you, get your story straight, or you'll be hearing from me. Unless you're a stranger & it takes place offline. I would just give you dirty looks when you're not looking and curse my shyness. My message to the world, rofl.

I noticed he's told people I said I was done messaging him. I think he's referring to the very email in which I explain I'm done asking him to come back, but that now I have ANOTHER issue with him. It's like he never read my fucking email. Then, when he gets my next one with updated ranting for him, he'll tell the forum that I totally went back on my "word" to leave him alone.

No, you don't get peace, not when you're spreading bullshit claims, anyway. You say things like that and you get shit from me. That's just how it is.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/ ... 963971.jpg
http://slymepitintrom.blogspot.ca/2013/ ... le-im.html
Her platform, her voice, her version of events.

I am sure some here have experienced the frustration of not being able to state their case, offer rebuttal, perspective and state their version of events?

So, I am not going to deride her for setting down her vision in a place where she can freely state them, especially as she is denied the ability to do so here.

What is sauce for the goose and all that. Fair is fair.

YMMV

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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bhoytony wrote:
Submariner wrote:

OK. No one link to my videos, it's an attack on me. /jeez
OK, we won't.
Thanks. bhoytony is officially an A+ ally to me.

The rest of you cunts.....I'm still watching you.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Apples wrote:Setar just went Full Setar again:
And, um...I can't help but see the similarities between Fascist organizations and the Slymepit. It's like the 'pitters are the internet equivalent of Fascist reactionaries like Golden Dawn -- or, hell, the early Nazis (OH NOES, I REFERENCED TEH NAZIS).
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F97DHpMHe_0/R ... -sitar.jpg
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 990#p72990
Its the "organizations" that throws me here. OK, he wants to call us fascist, thats just run of the mill crazy looking to demonize his enemies, see that all the time on the internet (hence Mike Godwin's maxim). But no, somehow in his deranged imagination, a loose collection of people who frequent a particular message board have become like a paramilitary organizations.

Personally, I dont care how many thumbscrews and bamboo shoots you use, I will not salute Reichsleiter Lsuoma. (Or maybe I will, given the salute around here is likely an extended digit.)

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well, that escalated quickly

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Mr. 'die in a fire' Wowbagger goes full Setar:
http://i.imgur.com/LAAqpzI.jpg

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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More from the Fps Russian guy: https://twitter.com/TheFPShow

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Social Justice in action, ignoring people you don't agree with (underline mine):

Apostablahblah: 'I say things like, "You are the problem, people like you are holding us back as a species. Society is at a net loss because you are a debt the rest of us will have to make up for." Then I wash my hands of them. Not much more you can do, call them out and shun.'

He just came from a free and open forum, JREF, to arguably the biggest free-loaders on the internet, the A+ crowd. The irony burns.

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Re: well, that escalated quickly

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Apples wrote:Mr. 'die in a fire' Wowbagger goes full Setar:
http://i.imgur.com/LAAqpzI.jpg
Also rationalists exist and you're not one of them Wowbagger. This is about a small element of a very large community trying to control the narrative.

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Re: well, that escalated quickly

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Apples wrote:Mr. 'die in a fire' Wowbagger goes full Setar:
http://i.imgur.com/LAAqpzI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eOC989Z.jpg?2

The top line also illustrates how Ellen Beth Wachs tweets, and when someone complains, she claims that there was somehow and somewhere a different context and that it was totally mean to call her out.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Skep tickle wrote: I also cringe at all the talk about how "you don't have to be scared of math!" - what if it hadn't actually occurred to the person - probably more likely female than male - to be scared of math, they just saw it at dry & difficult or something. But that example focuses more on messages about math, whereas your focus is, appropriately, messages to people who are members of a sub-group assumed to perform less well, and need encouragement, in some specific area.
And I cringe at the implicit sexism, racism, tokenism, paternalistic and condensing attitude, not to mention the assumption of superiority when I hear about the need for "diversity".

Who would want to be wondering if they are accepted for themselves as having some intrinsic value rather than fulfilling the need of someone to make a check mark on a "diversity" check list?

It is the ultimate insult.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Does anyone remember where the link was posted that has a large number of the FfTB twitter account links all on one page? I'm having trouble finding it. - Thanks.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jan Steen wrote:http://i.imgur.com/BEyIF9L.jpg

(You didn't really think I could kill those adorable creatures?)
Jan thank you , thank you, thank you :lol:

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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bhoytony wrote: I think this part at the bottom of the page is the creepy bit:

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9704 ... d366d4.png
You have to highlight it. She did the spoiler hide text thing.
I was banned from Slymepit, and then 'memory-holed' by Lsuoma - yeah, that guy who took out the edit feature so that FtB couldn't act like Slymepit was like them. He reeks of hypocrisy now.

He memory holed me by finding the nearest and flimsiest excuse he could use to permaban me rather than just being honest about it and admitting it's because I really get on his nerves and reek of teenage girl stereotypical air (For some reason, when you're one of those, you get on their nerves even more than other people they dislike.), and then deleting the thread I posted after being banned in order to defend myself and tell the forum that Lsuoma actually did something wrong, like invalidly banning me and then attempting to spread shit about my username.

Well, it wasn't an attempt. Since he successfully hid the thread I called it all out in, he actually did it. This is what's called memory-holing.

Instead of trying to justify the shit he said about me by pasting or otherwise showing the "secret discovery" about me that he refuses to talk about, or even revealing what the socalled "too similar" username and email associated with the person, he simply deleted it so that people wouldn't be able to see that he refused to do this.

His claim as to why I was banned... someone at least told me *that*... I am supposedly a dangerous adult man who he just could not have on his forum. He didn't say what his discovery was, but he said this person he conveniently found had a username and email (hmm, how does he know their email?) that's just too similar to my username and email.

Now, the only usernames I use that are similar to mine are the username itself, Eucliwood, and a Eu variant, Eunecromance(r). I use these on twitter, the A+ alternative, FtB places, and I used to use it on SF as an opposer but they didn't like me (but they're racists, so of course they wouldn't! :D), so no more Eu there.


I ended up messaging members there to get around the memory holing. I hope they don't automatically defend Lsuoma despite what he did and just ignore it or look past it - otherwise they're hypocritical if they trashed Freethought Blogs for memory holing people, too. Whether you like them or not, truth is truth. He banned me for no god damn reason, and then had the nerve to memory hole me, too.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Post by Lurkion »

Submariner wrote:
rocko2466 wrote:Yo, anyone heard from Mykeru lately? He's not done anything that I can see since 25.02.
I'm subscribed to his youtube channel. He's been following the Jodi Arias trial and commenting on it on youtube as recently as yesterday.
MYKERU'S ALIVE! Hurrah!

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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ButterCup wrote:https://twitter.com/rebeccawatson/statu ... 6681465857
http://i.imgur.com/62f9BEn.png

So, are SJWs ALLOWED to be friends with the person who started Fark.com?
I would think he would be high up on their ever expanding shit list.
Does she ever not fuck something up because of alcohol?

*cough* evo psych talk *cough*

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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lonesagi wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:In other news,

Eucliwood has a blog now:
http://slymepitintrom.blogspot.ca/

I dunno why but right now I am thinking of this line from Ozymandias:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
- Shelley

What hath the Slymepit done now? What forces hath been unleashed?
Whaaa? Why is half of it covered up? Why do white boxes stretch to infinity? WHAT IS GOING ON!?!
COVER YOUR EYES.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Stepha is still in competition with OB for victim points. Do not count her out yet.

http://www.michaelnugent.com/2013/03/08 ... ent-198832
Stephanie Zvan March 10, 2013 at 12:32 pm

Gosh, Michael. Thanks for opening up yet one more page for people to spread their lies about me. I can’t tell you how helpful this entire dialog with people who, say, throw out 2,000 words of my post about them excluding women to claim it’s about me wanting to exclude them has been. Or with people who say that calling something a problem and inappropriate is defending it.

Silly me, but I thought a commitment to dialog also required a commitment to truth.
Ummmm ... there is truth and there is controlling the narrative.

Ya done goofed Nugent! Do not be surprised if you get fucked up the arse now for failing your mission.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Gumby wrote:
bhoytony wrote: I think this part at the bottom of the page is the creepy bit:

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9704 ... d366d4.png
You have to highlight it. She did the spoiler hide text thing.
I was banned from Slymepit, and then 'memory-holed' by Lsuoma - yeah, that guy who took out the edit feature so that FtB couldn't act like Slymepit was like them. He reeks of hypocrisy now.

He memory holed me by finding the nearest and flimsiest excuse he could use to permaban me rather than just being honest about it and admitting it's because I really get on his nerves and reek of teenage girl stereotypical air (For some reason, when you're one of those, you get on their nerves even more than other people they dislike.), and then deleting the thread I posted after being banned in order to defend myself and tell the forum that Lsuoma actually did something wrong, like invalidly banning me and then attempting to spread shit about my username.

Well, it wasn't an attempt. Since he successfully hid the thread I called it all out in, he actually did it. This is what's called memory-holing.

Instead of trying to justify the shit he said about me by pasting or otherwise showing the "secret discovery" about me that he refuses to talk about, or even revealing what the socalled "too similar" username and email associated with the person, he simply deleted it so that people wouldn't be able to see that he refused to do this.

His claim as to why I was banned... someone at least told me *that*... I am supposedly a dangerous adult man who he just could not have on his forum. He didn't say what his discovery was, but he said this person he conveniently found had a username and email (hmm, how does he know their email?) that's just too similar to my username and email.

Now, the only usernames I use that are similar to mine are the username itself, Eucliwood, and a Eu variant, Eunecromance(r). I use these on twitter, the A+ alternative, FtB places, and I used to use it on SF as an opposer but they didn't like me (but they're racists, so of course they wouldn't! :D), so no more Eu there.


I ended up messaging members there to get around the memory holing. I hope they don't automatically defend Lsuoma despite what he did and just ignore it or look past it - otherwise they're hypocritical if they trashed Freethought Blogs for memory holing people, too. Whether you like them or not, truth is truth. He banned me for no god damn reason, and then had the nerve to memory hole me, too.

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Uh I know her youtube username and it's not an Eu variant.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Alright. Having caught up, I'm going to bed. Don't post too much more stuff because I'm at work in the morning and will need to catch up before my morning coffee ;)

Also, shameless repost coming up of my newest 'song' episode tomorrow some time.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jack wrote: I get the feeling they agree with them BUT are surprised at how they present themselves and close all methods of discourse. That is a dichotomy AI will have to struggle with. This level of overt aggression from feminist idealouges is probably not encountered in Ireland (they are far too busy with the considerably more important issues of sectarianism)
In Ireland they "live together" with the "bigots" so they are forced to act sane or something
viewtopic.php?p=73122#p73122

(how do I embed an attachment from a previous post?)

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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I do not consider myself a gamer as 99.99% of my experience is WOW and EQ2 both MMORPGs.

From Forbes:

Anita Sarkeesian's 'Damsel In Distress' Feminist Frequency Video Is Excellent And Important - Here's Why
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/20 ... heres-why/

Spoiler. He ends up complaining about this:
It’s the helicopter-parent theory of game design that’s the real threat to good games, not better, tougher, more heroic and fun-to-play female PCs.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Just one thought before I lay my head down to rest: aren't you a rape apologist if you advocate for the rapist-focused rape prevention campaigns? I mean, what they're essentially saying is that a great deal of the rapists out there don't actually realise that the other person doesn't consent or that it's rape. If that's the case, surely they'd be arguing for lower penalties in most cases of rape...? They'd also be arguing that the crime was less serious in many cases (i.e. murder compared to manslaughter)...

Please tell me my hypothesis is wrong. Because I didn't realise the people who call me a rape apologist for asking for support for the claim that those campaigns work were the real rape apologists...

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Video games are getting easier and easier. Good catch AndrewV69.

I generally stick to PvP (player vs player) games but I also like to play the Sims or Minecraft. These games are like doll houses or sandboxes. Just play, everything you do is ok, and you can't really lose. Realtive to (for example) Quake 3 where you log into a server and proceed to get wtfpwnd for days and days until you start getting decent.

I am not complaining because there are still many great games out there, competetive, hardcore, PvP games. And, ftr, I know many females who are excellent gamers. We game together often.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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rocko2466 wrote:Just one thought before I lay my head down to rest: aren't you a rape apologist if you advocate for the rapist-focused rape prevention campaigns? I mean, what they're essentially saying is that a great deal of the rapists out there don't actually realise that the other person doesn't consent or that it's rape. If that's the case, surely they'd be arguing for lower penalties in most cases of rape...? They'd also be arguing that the crime was less serious in many cases (i.e. murder compared to manslaughter)...

Please tell me my hypothesis is wrong. Because I didn't realise the people who call me a rape apologist for asking for support for the claim that those campaigns work were the real rape apologists...
I actually do not bother with the "rape apologist" or "rape prevention" business. It is completely irrelevant.

Unless you can show me that an awareness program telling people it is wrong to steal cars or rob banks actually discourages people for doing the same, I just dismiss the whole business out of hand as a bunch of nutters telling squirrels not to eat nuts.

You do not want squirrels to eat your nuts? Do not leave them hanging out.

/Derp.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Metalogic42 wrote:Our good friend erikthebassist has a lot to say about us today: http://whenskepticsattack.com/blog/2013/3/9/full-circle

I don't have anything to say about it, I'm just going to ignore this petulant little puke. :lol:
I realized quickly that his writing skills were on a par with his site design skills. In the spirit of showingerik what ignoring idiots looks like, I shan't be reading his site.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jack wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:Our good friend erikthebassist has a lot to say about us today: http://whenskepticsattack.com/blog/2013/3/9/full-circle

I don't have anything to say about it, I'm just going to ignore this petulant little puke. :lol:
Just out of curiosity I had a quick look over there. I see he says he's done with it and he's going to ignore us. I think should start a sweepstake on how long before he fails to stick the flounce. I'm going to say he will be back tomorrow.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsbba4JyNJ1qcn7d7.jpg
A non evidenced opinion rant. Boring. He'll be back. He thinks he has 'worked us out' and as usual gets it totally wrong.
He's just upset because I called him out on his failure to ignore me.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Her platform, her voice, her version of events.

I am sure some here have experienced the frustration of not being able to state their case, offer rebuttal, perspective and state their version of events?

So, I am not going to deride her for setting down her vision in a place where she can freely state them, especially as she is denied the ability to do so here.

What is sauce for the goose and all that. Fair is fair.

YMMV
I agree fully with this.

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Welcome IanFc.

Here's your obligatory basket of links:

http://1funny.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... et-cat.jpg

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I love that pic, Git.

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windy wrote: (how do I embed an attachment from a previous post?)
Dunno, I looked here and tried out some examples. http://www.bbcode.org/examples/?id=10 Something appears to be broke though.

Not having to resize or specify the image size works.
http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/faq.php?mode=bbcode

This works:

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[img]http://www.bbcode.org/images/lubeck_small.jpg[/img]
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Resizing the image currently does not work:

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Making the image clickable (in this case linking to the original image) apparently does work:

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http://www.bbcode.org/images/lubeck_small.jpg

But resizing and adding meta information for the image currently does not work

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The link to your attachment appears to be this:

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http://slymepit.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=758
but I can not get it to work because apparently the width and height information is not accessible from the link and I can not add the information because something appears to be borked.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Resize doesn't work because I don't have image magick installed.

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Gumby wrote:I love that pic, Git.
Its a lovely relaxed pussy isn't it?

Speaking of which, how is your new one settling in?

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katamari Damassi wrote:Something for Ophie:

http://www.weirdasianews.com/2008/04/08 ... amination/
Hehe. She will still manage to make it about herself, somehow.

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Jack wrote:
lonesagi wrote:
JAB wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
Apples wrote:Rereading the Ophie/Josh/et al tweets to Nugent and recalling the threads ... it occurs to me that what they were complaining about, and what Ophie was claiming was "destroying her," was really simply the fact that he was allowing a dialogue including the Pit Crew without moderation or banning. If you read those tweets without reading the threads, you'd think people were spewing invective at Ophie and calling her a cunt, etc. (and "lying about her" -- I believe she tweeted that), but Ophie was in fact rarely mentioned at all, if I recall correctly.

They are simply furious that, having told us to stay the fuck away from their blogs and banning many of us, anyone with a public profile would allow the unbelievable truth to be revealed -- that people here have relevant points to make and citations to back them up, and are generally thoughtful, reasonable, and worst of all, numerous.
Exactly. Further, as usual, when outside their controlled environment, their arguments and claims are generally found to be wanting. Nugent clearly got much, much more than he had bargained for, likely based on the propaganda his FtB friends have been feeding him. It really was a good show. :clap:
Or on a more basic level... we have transgressed and therefore must be shunned. By his failure to shun us he has hurt the powers that be and has upset all that follow those powers. What are they supposed to think of him now? They are so confused and it's all his fault!
I think that I really, truly feel sorry for Nugent now. It would have been very, very easy for him to toe the party line and brushed us off. He hasn't, and that actually makes me begin to suspect that his motivation might be sincere (however condescending). I'd still bet money that he throws us under the bus in the end; however, he didn't do it as a knee jerk reaction to his friends complaints, so I have some degree of hope.
Really, it is all very predictable. If you do not do what they say you are a non person to them. Simple as that. He is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He set up JV even though I accept JV gave that to him for free (in my opinion, never allow anyone to take the moral high ground. Nugent should have declined that offer) which went badly wrong for him. Predictable. So he did the Ophelia picture to distract from his moral attack. That also went very bad. Also predictable.

All through that despite being attacked and vilified the Pitters kept going. Because we are rationalists and that's what we do. We have no sacred cows.

Yet the FtB crowd mainly did nothing but wait for their chance to be offended. Because they are Ideologues and that's what they do. Now they are collecting their victim points and they will do anything, including trashing reputations, to get them.

The whole point of the pitters argument is the very point that will ensure no discussion will be successful. It is NOT about being offended. It is not about bad words or even the definition of Feminism. It is about applying Skepticicsm to any claim and resisting blatant attempts to control the community by exclusion and shunning.

He started badly and it went downhill from there. He was told clearly not to do what he did and the reason why it was a bad idea. You do not pick sides and judge before you have all the evidence and certainly not if you want to present yourself as an honest broker.

I think his heart is in the right place but his wilful lack of judegement is much harder to resolve. However, as always, things may change and if they do maybe something may come from it. However I suspect Nugent is working out an exit route. It has already provided extremely useful evidence to observers that we are not a deluded bunch of misogynist nut jobs as they love to paint us.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Lsuoma wrote:Resize doesn't work because I don't have image magick installed.
Are you going to or are there issues?

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Meanwhile, at the A+sylum, Submor wrote:

"So this is just going to be a quick rant because I'm sick of seeing people who think the mocking of 'freeze peach' is somehow derisive to free speech. It isn't. The whole point of making fun of you for your fetishization of 'freeze peach' is that what you're espousing isn't 'free speech' but some irrational caricature of it. Those of us who laugh at you for your adherence to icy fruit are big fans of free speech. You just suck at it.

That is all."

Gee, if you just replace the words "freeze peach" with "social justice" (or "marginalized" or "privilege" or "misogyny" or "racism") it would describe A+perfectly.

I'm still waiting to see Submor explain how he's marginalized. [Yeah, that's not a typo, I deliberately wrote "he", not "ze" or "xe" and did o without any guilt whatsoever.] One time not that long ago, one of the other regulars (Sybil something or other) chastised a newbie for assuming Submor was a male based on his avatar (which depicts what looks like a smug bearded hippie wannabe). She admonished that perhaps Submor was in transition between sexes, or of some bearded gender besides male or female, or something similarly fucked up. Submor conspicuously chose not to addresss to these speculations, probably figuring it politically expedient to let them continue to assume he's 'marginalized' in some way.

From his myriad comments both at A+ and elsewhere it's clear he's an economically comfortable white guy (the horror!) , yet he's been a "global mod" of the "safe space for the marginalized" since day one. Now, the race and gender and income of someone should normally have no bearing on their appropriateness for being a mod, but that is a place which has set itself up as something which is supposed to be run by and for people not like Submor, where the presence/participation of people like Submor (that is, like him in terms of his race/gender/income/ physical and mental health etc.) is supposed to be limited to being reprimanded, reeducate, spayed, and released. Yet he has held a banhammer since day one.

In fact, to this day virtually all of the mods are white (or else make strained claims to victim stats, such as self-diagnosed Aspbergers or anxiety issues, etc.), as well as most forum members (there are more mods than non-mods among the active forum participants over there, and few newcomers last/stat long after signing on).

Then again maybe "Submor" really stands for "sub moron"? All I know is, they ought to place his avatar in the dictionary along with he entries for "smug" and "pseudointellectual".

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jack wrote:'.......but I simply cannot tolerate being lied about or thought of as doing things I never did. It angers me, a hell of a lot. I would go to great lengths just to prove to someone that they were wrong, or correct them on something. That's just how I am.'

Alarm bells..danger Will Robinson.

I get lied about often, we all do. But some have not learned to let it go.
Hate to bring it up but REAP has said almost the exact same thing about PZ and being blocked from the forums to defend himself.

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I'm enjoying the discussion e4e5 is having on atheism plus starting here.
e4e5 wrote:...Calling someone 'asshat' instead of 'stupid' is just disingenuous. You are basically expressing the same emotion, just giving it another word - like how 'special' came to mean 'autistic'. I mean, seriously, what would be the definition of 'asshat'? Someone who is behaving stupidly?...
They go on to argue that if smart is not better than stupid (which it can't be, because ablism), then ignorance cannot be better than knowledge.

They are slowly making their way towards "Ignorance is strength." Just a little further...

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Okay guyze, time to stop beating the bitchez

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AndrewV69 wrote:I do not consider myself a gamer as 99.99% of my experience is WOW and EQ2 both MMORPGs.

From Forbes:

Anita Sarkeesian's 'Damsel In Distress' Feminist Frequency Video Is Excellent And Important - Here's Why
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/20 ... heres-why/

Spoiler. He ends up complaining about this:
It’s the helicopter-parent theory of game design that’s the real threat to good games, not better, tougher, more heroic and fun-to-play female PCs.
Another social justice warrior called Erik. Oh dear. Anyway, the sad thing is that some of the comments provide a better and more balanced account on sexism in videogames than either Anita or Erik Kain. (Blasphemy to be called something as badass as 'Kain' and not live up to the name.) For instance Sarkeesian shoots out stereotypes like a machinegun but doesn't provide viable solutions herself how to resolve this, which this commenter pointed out:
The threatened bit comes from this point: Those who have watched her videos in the past, and noticed where she’s been incorrect in her reasoning, such as her support of segregated trams in Japan for women, have usually tried to correct her on those points. Often, they’re never responded to, however civil the point was, unless a quip could be made in response, or there was enough for an agreement to be made. And this is on the videos which allowed comments.

She only responds to critique that agrees with her, or what she feels like will work for her. If you’re making a series meant to start debate, like this one, that is the wrong kind of person to have at the helm. Much less someone whose work has been shown to be full of bad logic, and who offers no solutions to what they’re talking about.
Similarly they pointed out her flawed reasoning and sloppy research, like that video she made about Bayonetta which she later removed:
The lack of an alternative is also quite frustrating, as to some people Bayonetta might seem like the pinnacle of an empowered female protagonist; willfully overpowered and very sexy, but answers to no man (or anyone, really), has no romantic inclination toward anyone, and basically spends more time toying with men than being in the service of them. However, this particular character bothered her in the past, as apparently the only positive trait she has is that she’s a “single mother”?
(Speaking of, she did make a video game related video in this vein, on Bayonetta no less, before it was deleted from her channel. See here for a reupload:
And Zia from Bastion:
I simply don’t trust her to present this without something skewed to the way she sees it, and having that color people’s perceptions of these topics. Ignoring Ganon’s statement that Zelda had managed to hide from him for so many years being one hint of that, and her overuse of story-thin arcade games made in the 80′s and 90′s as supporting examples being another. And, lest we forget, she’s referred to Zia from Bastion as an example of this trope, despite Zia making it clear the opposite was true later in the story.
Again, I can't for the life of me figure out why people made Anita Sarkeesian a spokesperson of sexism within video games. She's clearly incapable of a balanced approach, not to mention showing herself to be incompentent on several occasions.

Here's a perspective from a game developer (who's a woman) on Sarkeesian:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24848045/neogaf.png

Oh, and since we're on the subject, while inexplicably much of Anita's focus was on Nintendo games, Mario and Zelda in particular, and then mentioned some more examples (removing the context, of course), they were hardly the only games with female characters. In fact, from the SNES era, one of my favourite games is Kiki KaiKai, or as it is more commonly known: Pocky & Rocky. A cute game (in the chibi format) featuring Rocky, a tanuki (or raccoon), and Pocky, a miko. That's right. A shrine maiden. And is it good? You bet your arse. Plus it features one of the best soundtrack in a videogame. But did she bring that up? No. Hmm. Odd, that.

I lied. Of course it isn't. For idealogues like Anita, if they brought up examples counter to their prejudice, their world would fall apart.

There's several other examples where this trope fails completely. Off the top of my head the Lufia series (which is based on a female character), Lagoon (where the strongest character is a woman), Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Chrono Trigger, Wild Guns, Illusion of Gaia (or Time in Europe) - amazing games with great characters, men and women. But what gripes is that Anita seems to think that when a woman or little girl (like in Pocky & Rocky) is strong, they're only trying to emulate strong male characters and that's just annoying. (No, really, she outlined this in her thesis - in college. http://ouyaboards.com/images/smilies/sm ... cepalm.gif)

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Jack wrote:I'm sure this has been discussed but it makes me laugh every time over at A+:

New User: Hi everyone. I heard you were for Social Justice, Humanism and sticking up for people. You sound like really decent people.

Mod: Hi New User. Here's a of 9 links you must read and memorise before you proceed. Failure to do so will result in your
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banning. Please also note that we reserve the right to make stuff up as we go so we can kick you out after lots of abuse. Have a pleasant stay!!!!

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4149
I browsed Feminism 101 once. That sounds very much like their 'welcome' package.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Mzone wrote:
Jack wrote:'.......but I simply cannot tolerate being lied about or thought of as doing things I never did. It angers me, a hell of a lot. I would go to great lengths just to prove to someone that they were wrong, or correct them on something. That's just how I am.'

Alarm bells..danger Will Robinson.

I get lied about often, we all do. But some have not learned to let it go.
Hate to bring it up but REAP has said almost the exact same thing about PZ and being blocked from the forums to defend himself.

Mzone
Reap is not a stalker, she is (can't some of you see that?) Reap never threatened legal action. Eu is a clear liability and WILL entrap given the chance by accident or design, Reap is not. The two are not comparable.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Post by Southern »

It's just me, or there is someone else here cheering for Becky to go against 4chan or Anonymous next?

That would provide enough entertainment for months!

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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I seriously think that Anita believes that video games with female protagonists can only be not emulations of male characters if there is no combat involved. It's the only logical conclusion to arrive at, given her disdain for masculinity in general.

The hypocrisy of supposed 3rd wave feminists clinging to gender existentialism when it suits them seems to be a very prevalent trend.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Fuck me! Look at that list of arguments to avoid!!

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Southern wrote:It's just me, or there is someone else here cheering for Becky to go against 4chan or Anonymous next?

That would provide enough entertainment for months!
I was thinking the same thing yesterday.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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There's been a massive invasion of FtB-types on 4chan as of late, I guess. It wouldn't surprise me.

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lol http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=930

Conflating autistic spectrum conditions with obnoxiousness

Having an autistic spectrum condition is not the same as being a jerk. For the same reasons as above, conflating the two is deeply offensive. Asshole is not on the autism spectrum.
Oh, yes it is! Unless people on the autistic spectrum aren't also human.

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katamari Damassi wrote:Something for Ophie:

http://www.weirdasianews.com/2008/04/08 ... amination/
Here's something similar. All you chicks should get down to the pharmacy and stock up on this amazing cream.
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lurking coward wrote:In fact, to this day virtually all of the mods are white (or else make strained claims to victim stats, such as self-diagnosed Aspbergers or anxiety issues, etc.), as well as most forum members (there are more mods than non-mods among the active forum participants over there, and few newcomers last/stat long after signing on).
Ceepolk is a black woman. She is extremely marginalized - I know because she said so. There was that other time she was talking about clothes and how she lives in an expensive city and has worked in fashion, but I assume she only does that when she's not homeless/in jail/being denied the right to vote/having someone express disagreement.

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