http://www.spiritistvideos.com/seyretfi ... _Sense.jpgrayshul wrote:Sorry, but I see brown people in the Romney Ryan crowd!
I see brown people!
http://www.spiritistvideos.com/seyretfi ... _Sense.jpgrayshul wrote:Sorry, but I see brown people in the Romney Ryan crowd!
Yes!Jan Steen wrote:http://i.imgur.com/qMKwhYJ.jpg
Marmite tastes a little beefy, to me.sacha wrote:Marmite does not taste like meatPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I find Marmite gives my lettuce sandwiches some sort of meaty flavor. Marmite is vegan, though, isn't it?BarnOwl wrote::D So hilarious and so true. I just ate a veggie burger for lunch, and it was totally meat-like in the umami taste category. Deliberately so, I'm sure. I mean, it's called a "burger" right there on the package.bovarchist wrote: Well Kilstein is a VERY thin-skinned and easily trollable douchekebab. I got a rise out of him by pointing out how hard vegans work to make things taste like meat.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/ori ... 90/304.gifApples wrote:http://www.spiritistvideos.com/seyretfi ... _Sense.jpgrayshul wrote:Sorry, but I see brown people in the Romney Ryan crowd!
I see brown people!
It's chock full of glutamate, though, which is the main umami taste chemical. Meat-eaters will likely associate the savory taste with their experiences eating meat and seafood and broths thereof, so they describe it as a meaty flavor. But there's loads of glutamate (and related umami chemicals) in seaweed, various vegetables, and mushrooms, so a vegetarian will have a different experience and associations for the same taste chemicals. Dr. Ikeda first isolated the umami taste chemical from seaweed, so its vegetarian association is the original one.sacha wrote:Marmite does not taste like meatPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I find Marmite gives my lettuce sandwiches some sort of meaty flavor. Marmite is vegan, though, isn't it?BarnOwl wrote::D So hilarious and so true. I just ate a veggie burger for lunch, and it was totally meat-like in the umami taste category. Deliberately so, I'm sure. I mean, it's called a "burger" right there on the package.bovarchist wrote: Well Kilstein is a VERY thin-skinned and easily trollable douchekebab. I got a rise out of him by pointing out how hard vegans work to make things taste like meat.
BarnOwl wrote:It's chock full of glutamate, though, which is the main umami taste chemical. Meat-eaters will likely associate the savory taste with their experiences eating meat and seafood and broths thereof, so they describe it as a meaty flavor. But there's loads of glutamate (and related umami chemicals) in seaweed, various vegetables, and mushrooms, so a vegetarian will have a different experience and associations for the same taste chemicals. Dr. Ikeda first isolated the umami taste chemical from seaweed, so its vegetarian association is the original one.sacha wrote:Marmite does not taste like meatPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
I find Marmite gives my lettuce sandwiches some sort of meaty flavor. Marmite is vegan, though, isn't it?
Ophelia, Watson and Amy Roth all seem blissfully unaware that their con invitations aren't the results of their being more qualified than anyone else.Ophelia: Yes it works. If you’re only inviting Star X, Y and Z, next con says “we should invite Star X, Y and Zâ€. When you see people speaking, you’re more likely to see them as the right people to ask. You start to get people who have been invited 50 times, but not new people.
Gumby!!! \o/Gumby wrote:
That looks familiar.... :oops:
For the record, I over-reacted.
Taste and olfaction are the most interesting of the senses, IMO, because the information goes primarily (directly, in the case of olfaction) to the limbic system, where emotions and memories reside. We like to think that we are visual animals, with complete control over how sensory inputs influence our behavior; olfaction, however, influences our behavior much more than we'd like to admit, and we don't have much conscious control over our responses to it. For birds, vision prevails, but for mammals it's olfaction (and its chemosensory relative, taste). I would love to have the olfactory abilities of almost any other mammal - much better than those of a human.sacha wrote:BarnOwl wrote:It's chock full of glutamate, though, which is the main umami taste chemical. Meat-eaters will likely associate the savory taste with their experiences eating meat and seafood and broths thereof, so they describe it as a meaty flavor. But there's loads of glutamate (and related umami chemicals) in seaweed, various vegetables, and mushrooms, so a vegetarian will have a different experience and associations for the same taste chemicals. Dr. Ikeda first isolated the umami taste chemical from seaweed, so its vegetarian association is the original one.sacha wrote:Marmite does not taste like meatPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
I find Marmite gives my lettuce sandwiches some sort of meaty flavor. Marmite is vegan, though, isn't it?
You are correct as usual, Amazon woman. Umami is very mushroomy/seaweedy to me. I remember meat tasting very different, however, after 29 years, I'm sure my memory is not reliable. I will tell you that the smell of cooked flesh makes me nauseous, but I'm happy to eat Durian fruit.
Heh. "Free-range psych ward." That is spot-on.Gefan wrote:Please, because as much as I love the sound of my own voice (not as much as some people round here, but plenty) we need you to get this into your thick fucking skulls, you're not that important.
You are an amusing clown show. That is all you will ever be. None of us wish you actual harm. If you were to go away for any reason we would miss the lulz and then get on with our, you know, lives.
Although you and your free-range psych ward lack any empathy for the rest of the species, we do not. In truth I think we'd be happy if several of you got some help.
Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe.
OH GOD! THEYRE FINALLY STARTING TO FUSE INTO ONE!!!Myers-Watson assume you...
Slither wrote:Ophelia, Watson and Amy Roth all seem blissfully unaware that their con invitations aren't the results of their being more qualified than anyone else.Ophelia: Yes it works. If you’re only inviting Star X, Y and Z, next con says “we should invite Star X, Y and Zâ€. When you see people speaking, you’re more likely to see them as the right people to ask. You start to get people who have been invited 50 times, but not new people.
BarnOwl wrote: Cat meat in curry? :shock:
I need to be more careful about choosing restaurants when I'm in the DC area.
Yeah, and we have to wait months! (insert huge rage face here...Fu....Fu....Fu.......)BarnOwl wrote:/Off Topic:
Dr. Who! Holy Fucking Shit!!!11!!
OMFG, Lindsay is out for blood!ERV wrote:I dont know why Ron Lindsay is engaging Twatson... But I LOLed:Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe.OH GOD! THEYRE FINALLY STARTING TO FUSE INTO ONE!!!Myers-Watson assume you...
Sick Gangsta Mack right there.It may be the most intellectually dishonest piece of writing since the last communique issued by North Korea.
STONE-COLD CALLED THE BITCH A LIAR.Next, Watson claims the “crux" of my talk was the problem I have with feminists using the concept of privilege as a justification for telling men to “shut up and listen.†This claim is false. No reasonable person could possibly describe the crux of my talk as dealing with this issue.
The sarcasm...it...I'm sorry, it's just so beautiful. I'm all verklempt, talk amongst yourselves.But in her defense, perhaps Watson was too busy tweeting about how “strange†it was to have a “white man†open the conference to pay attention to what I was actually saying. (I’m just glad Watson didn’t notify security: “white man loose on stage, white man loose on stage!â€)
"The words of the Klingon are unimportant, and so I don't hear them."But let’s leave Watson’s distortions behind and move to the central issue presented by her criticism, and that is what model of communication we should adopt when we are conversing with someone who has had different life experiences, e.g., a conversation between a woman and a man.
Yep. Precisely.People do have different life experiences, and many women have had experiences and perspectives from which men can and should learn. But having had certain experiences does not automatically turn one into an authority to whom others must defer. Listen, listen carefully, but where appropriate, question and engage.â€
I've had a barely functional finger for almost 20 years now. It does not however make me an expert on:Myers-Watson assume you should never question, you should never argue back, because the person from the marginalized group must have the expertise.
Wheee, logic uber alles!This model of communication asks us to put our critical thinking on hold merely because the person speaking comes from a marginalized group.
Olfactory acuity is something that can be improved with practice. When I was doing my PhD, which was originally in organic chemistry until it went spectacularly wrong, and I switched to quantum, I could recognize many, many more smells than I could before, and can now.BarnOwl wrote:Taste and olfaction are the most interesting of the senses, IMO, because the information goes primarily (directly, in the case of olfaction) to the limbic system, where emotions and memories reside. We like to think that we are visual animals, with complete control over how sensory inputs influence our behavior; olfaction, however, influences our behavior much more than we'd like to admit, and we don't have much conscious control over our responses to it. For birds, vision prevails, but for mammals it's olfaction (and its chemosensory relative, taste). I would love to have the olfactory abilities of almost any other mammal - much better than those of a human.sacha wrote:BarnOwl wrote:It's chock full of glutamate, though, which is the main umami taste chemical. Meat-eaters will likely associate the savory taste with their experiences eating meat and seafood and broths thereof, so they describe it as a meaty flavor. But there's loads of glutamate (and related umami chemicals) in seaweed, various vegetables, and mushrooms, so a vegetarian will have a different experience and associations for the same taste chemicals. Dr. Ikeda first isolated the umami taste chemical from seaweed, so its vegetarian association is the original one.sacha wrote:Marmite does not taste like meatPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
I find Marmite gives my lettuce sandwiches some sort of meaty flavor. Marmite is vegan, though, isn't it?
You are correct as usual, Amazon woman. Umami is very mushroomy/seaweedy to me. I remember meat tasting very different, however, after 29 years, I'm sure my memory is not reliable. I will tell you that the smell of cooked flesh makes me nauseous, but I'm happy to eat Durian fruit.
Exactly. Lindsey just outed their favorite tactic right in front of the people most likely to use it, effectively calling them out for it. I was impressed enough to post a comment:Nim_Chimpsky wrote:But it’s the second misapplication of the concept of privilege that troubles me most. I’m talking about the situation where the concept of privilege is used to try to silence others, as a justification for saying, “shut up and listen.†Shut up, because you’re a man and you cannot possibly know what it’s like to experience x, y, and z, and anything you say is bound to be mistaken in some way, but, of course, you’re too blinded by your privilege even to realize that.
This approach doesn’t work. It certainly doesn’t work for me. It’s the approach that the dogmatist who wants to silence critics has always taken because it beats having to engage someone in a reasoned argument. It’s the approach that’s been taken by many religions. It’s the approach taken by ideologies such as Marxism. You pull your dogma off the shelf, take out the relevant category or classification, fit it snugly over the person you want to categorize, dismiss, and silence and ... poof, you’re done. End of discussion. You’re a heretic spreading the lies of Satan, and anything you say is wrong. You’re a member of the bourgeoisie, defending your ownership of the means of production, and everything you say is just a lie to justify your power. You’re a man; you have nothing to contribute to a discussion of how to achieve equality for women.
Now don’t get me wrong. I think the concept of privilege is useful; in fact it is too useful to have it ossified and turned into a dogma.
http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/e ... k_at_wis2/
Looking at his speech, I think a lot of the upset may be due to the fact that he hit the nail on the head. No wonder Watson and Myers got so worked up about it. He seems to have just come out and said what a lot of people in the Atheist 'movement' have been thinking recently. Good on him, he's got himself a new fan in me.
#13 Zenspace (Guest) on Saturday May 18, 2013 at 5:27am
Mr. Lindsay, this was a surprisingly well balanced speech. Well done. Hopefully this is an indicator that CFI is beginning to recognize the negative effects inherent in the infiltration of certain ideological influences into the skeptical community. The negative feedback you have seen on twitter is a clear indication that no breach of the faith will be tolerated and that the first casualty is reason, rationality and skepticism. I call your attention to PZ Myers recent, public ‘divorce’ from skepticism as further evidence that the ideological aspects of gender movements are antithetical to the progress of reason and rationality.
CFI’s reputation and credibility as a skeptical organization has been hurt by its ongoing support of persons subscribing to these gender based ideologies to the clear detriment of reason and skepticism. If your speech proves to be reflected in the future real world activities of CFI, including the quality of persons it chooses to support, I will look forward to renewing my membership with the organization.
Thank you again for the thoughtfulness and clear thinking and fairness you exhibited in this speech.
The photoshoppers know what to do:ERV wrote:I dont know why Ron Lindsay is engaging Twatson... But I LOLed:Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe.OH GOD! THEYRE FINALLY STARTING TO FUSE INTO ONE!!!Myers-Watson assume you...
I know, right? It's why Moffat is one of my favorite writers and why people who want RTD back have me scratching my head.BarnOwl wrote:/Off Topic:
Dr. Who! Holy Fucking Shit!!!11!!
My fav:ERV wrote:I dont know why Ron Lindsay is engaging Twatson... But I LOLed:Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe.OH GOD! THEYRE FINALLY STARTING TO FUSE INTO ONE!!!Myers-Watson assume you...
Somebody has had enough of this shit.The next time Watson asks me for a “good deal†of my drink, I will leave her an ice cube.
Ron Lindsay does not mess about does he? If I had to guess he came well prepared for the vitriolic responses he got for his fairly non conscientious speech. If there is one thing the clowns are noted for it is their predictability.ERV wrote:I dont know why Ron Lindsay is engaging Twatson... But I LOLed:Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe.OH GOD! THEYRE FINALLY STARTING TO FUSE INTO ONE!!!Myers-Watson assume you...
Dude, bittorrent?Badger3k wrote:Yeah, and we have to wait months! (insert huge rage face here...Fu....Fu....Fu.......)BarnOwl wrote:/Off Topic:
Dr. Who! Holy Fucking Shit!!!11!!
Oh, but this is going to be good!welch wrote:<snip>
http://media.tumblr.com/68e87ed79ae6652 ... qz4rgp.gifRebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe. At least that is the most charitable explanation I can provide for her recent smear. Watson has posted comments on my opening talk at Women in Secularism 2. It may be the most intellectually dishonest piece of writing since the last communique issued by North Korea.
FFs, he's said it better than you ever have or will. Let the man's words stand on their own - without further hee-hawing from you and your pals. You can only weaken the impact of what he has said.justinvacula wrote:Live from #WIScfi - #BraveHero Radio at 9:30 eastern - Day 2 - Chat live now + during show and consider calling in!
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"Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe. At least that is the most charitable explanation I can provide for her recent smear. Watson has posted comments on my opening talk at Women in Secularism 2. It may be the most intellectually dishonest piece of writing since the last communique issued by North Korea."
26 min in, they're talking about the conference, currently Susan Jacoby's comments on Robert Ingersoll. Lindsay & Watson haven't come up yet.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:FFs, he's said it better than you ever have or will. Let the man's words stand on their own - without further hee-hawing from you and your pals. You can only weaken the impact of what he has said.justinvacula wrote:Live from #WIScfi - #BraveHero Radio at 9:30 eastern - Day 2 - Chat live now + during show and consider calling in!
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"Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe. At least that is the most charitable explanation I can provide for her recent smear. Watson has posted comments on my opening talk at Women in Secularism 2. It may be the most intellectually dishonest piece of writing since the last communique issued by North Korea."
Please, just fuck off and cry.
Word. That writing would make Hitch shiver in pleasure...ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:FFs, he's said it better than you ever have or will. Let the man's words stand on their own - without further hee-hawing from you and your pals. You can only weaken the impact of what he has said.justinvacula wrote:Live from #WIScfi - #BraveHero Radio at 9:30 eastern - Day 2 - Chat live now + during show and consider calling in!
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"Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe. At least that is the most charitable explanation I can provide for her recent smear. Watson has posted comments on my opening talk at Women in Secularism 2. It may be the most intellectually dishonest piece of writing since the last communique issued by North Korea."
rayshul wrote:I do wonder how Lindsay managed to miss all the fucking crazy until now, though.
Sarah Moglia â€@Mowgli3 7h
Since he's a skeptic, I wonder what it would take to convince @RALindsay that he's wrong re: his opening speech at #wiscfi.
Skep tickle â€@Ellesun 2h
@Mowgli3 @RALindsay Pointing out factual errors & unwarranted assumptions in his #wiscfi opener, presenting evidence to support your claims?
I'm going to guess that Lindsay wasn't missing the crazy, he was hanging back to see how things went, or he was biding his time.welch wrote:rayshul wrote:I do wonder how Lindsay managed to miss all the fucking crazy until now, though.
Sometimes one hopes for too long that people will pull their heads out on their own.
:lol:rayshul wrote:Can't stop laughing at Long... ...
Ryan Grant Longâ€@Eshto7h
@jamiekilstein @Gurdur @Laura_Rhymes @RALindsay @center4inquiry Thank you Jamie we need more black transgender lesbian voices like yours.
...
Ryan Grant Longâ€@Eshto1h
@jamiekilstein @Gurdur @Laura_Rhymes Correct. You are free to be as big of a clueless hypocrite as you would like to be, honky.
Dayum!!!!! :owelch wrote:OMFG, Lindsay is out for blood!ERV wrote:I dont know why Ron Lindsay is engaging Twatson... But I LOLed:Rebecca Watson inhabits an alternate universe.OH GOD! THEYRE FINALLY STARTING TO FUSE INTO ONE!!!Myers-Watson assume you...
Sick Gangsta Mack right there.It may be the most intellectually dishonest piece of writing since the last communique issued by North Korea.
STONE-COLD CALLED THE BITCH A LIAR.Next, Watson claims the “crux" of my talk was the problem I have with feminists using the concept of privilege as a justification for telling men to “shut up and listen.†This claim is false. No reasonable person could possibly describe the crux of my talk as dealing with this issue.
That's going to leave a mark.
The sarcasm...it...I'm sorry, it's just so beautiful. I'm all verklempt, talk amongst yourselves.But in her defense, perhaps Watson was too busy tweeting about how “strange†it was to have a “white man†open the conference to pay attention to what I was actually saying. (I’m just glad Watson didn’t notify security: “white man loose on stage, white man loose on stage!â€)
"The words of the Klingon are unimportant, and so I don't hear them."But let’s leave Watson’s distortions behind and move to the central issue presented by her criticism, and that is what model of communication we should adopt when we are conversing with someone who has had different life experiences, e.g., a conversation between a woman and a man.
Fuck, that DEFINITELY left a mark.
Yep. Precisely.People do have different life experiences, and many women have had experiences and perspectives from which men can and should learn. But having had certain experiences does not automatically turn one into an authority to whom others must defer. Listen, listen carefully, but where appropriate, question and engage.â€
I've had a barely functional finger for almost 20 years now. It does not however make me an expert on:Myers-Watson assume you should never question, you should never argue back, because the person from the marginalized group must have the expertise.
the skeletal system
orthopedic surgery
pain management
broken bones
Fuck, just how pissed off is Ronbo right now. You just know he's about to eat nails.
Wheee, logic uber alles!This model of communication asks us to put our critical thinking on hold merely because the person speaking comes from a marginalized group.
EllenBeth Wachs â€@EllenBethWachs 31m
Watson’s World and Two Models of Communication | Center for Inquiry http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/e ... unication/ …
EllenBeth Wachs â€@EllenBethWachs 28m
@SubManUSN He sounds a bit pissed off and rightfully so.
EllenBeth Wachs â€@EllenBethWachs 24m
@SubManUSN I've met Ron a few times and always liked and respected him. That respect has grown over the last few days.
What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.
Humans can actually follow a trail of chocolate scent across a field, but their hearing and vision have to be blocked, and of course they're crawling on all fours with their noses close to the ground. My students wanted to try the experiment themselves, but there's no place here where they wouldn't likely crawl through fire ants and prickly pear or mesquite. Humans have pretty good ability to distinguish smells and to localize them (and I agree, you can improve these abilities), but I want recognize the temporal qualities of odors. A dog can follow a scent across great distances and distinguish very specific scents, but in addition it knows how long the scent has been in any given place, i.e. how "old" it is.Lsuoma wrote: Olfactory acuity is something that can be improved with practice. When I was doing my PhD, which was originally in organic chemistry until it went spectacularly wrong, and I switched to quantum, I could recognize many, many more smells than I could before, and can now.
Considering her behavior and recently preferred company, she may just be having an 'oh shit' moment about now.Lsuoma wrote:What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.
I was wondering about that myself. I suspect there will be some fallout ahead ... and not just with Watson-Myers. :popcorn:Lsuoma wrote:What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.
Strategic move.JAB wrote:So, Ron waits until he gets all the miscreants in one room on his turf and with him as the host to nail them? Sweet.
I really cannot imagine that 'Women In Secularism' will be used as a personal party for her and her BFFs again. Mostly, because this year that made it way too obvious it is just an excuse for her to throw a party on someone elses dime.Lsuoma wrote:What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.
I have the feeling the ol' blogosphere is going to be an interesting place after this weekend. :popcorn:Skep tickle wrote:Strategic move.JAB wrote:So, Ron waits until he gets all the miscreants in one room on his turf and with him as the host to nail them? Sweet.
Awwww, kilstein's still smarting over the prolonged beating rogan gave him.rayshul wrote:Can't stop laughing at Long...
Jamie Kilsteinâ€@jamiekilstein9h
Hello, @RALindsay I have done many fundraisers for @center4inquiry and after your abortion of a speech at #wiscfi am done. You're a joke.
Tim Skellettâ€@Gurdur9h
@jamiekilstein @Laura_Rhymes Pardon me, but wasn't it @RALindsay/@center4inquiry who did most of the finance for #wiscfi?
Jamie Kilsteinâ€@jamiekilstein9h
@Gurdur @Laura_Rhymes @RALindsay @center4inquiry awwwwww. Old white dude, are you ok? =( Women need big strong men like you for $ #wiscfi
Ryan Grant Longâ€@Eshto7h
@jamiekilstein @Gurdur @Laura_Rhymes @RALindsay @center4inquiry Thank you Jamie we need more black transgender lesbian voices like yours.
Jamie Kilsteinâ€@jamiekilstein7h
@Eshto @Gurdur @Laura_Rhymes I don't know what this means but judging by your mustache and smug smile I will guess something dumb.
Jamie Kilsteinâ€@jamiekilstein7h
@Eshto @Gurdur @Laura_Rhymes just cause I'm a white dude doesn't mean I can't criticize people with privilege.
Ryan Grant Longâ€@Eshto1h
@jamiekilstein @Gurdur @Laura_Rhymes Correct. You are free to be as big of a clueless hypocrite as you would like to be, honky.
My first guess here is that dogs learn about the relative decay in intensity of the smell of different components of a mixture with time. If you take a mixture of high- and low-boiling components, the overall sensation of smell will surely vary with the length of time since the mixture was laid down. For example, if you take a equimixture of acetone (propanone), hexan-2-one, nonan-2-one, and dodecan-2-one, the olfactory sensation from a freshly spread sample will be different than 30 minutes later, which will again be different from ten hours later.BarnOwl wrote:Humans have pretty good ability to distinguish smells and to localize them (and I agree, you can improve these abilities), but I want recognize the temporal qualities of odors. A dog can follow a scent across great distances and distinguish very specific scents, but in addition it knows how long the scent has been in any given place, i.e. how "old" it is.
Skep tickle wrote:Strategic move.JAB wrote:So, Ron waits until he gets all the miscreants in one room on his turf and with him as the host to nail them? Sweet.
It reminds me of the way Mohammed Ali (no, not THAT Mohammed Ali) massacred the Mamelukes.JAB wrote:So, Ron waits until he gets all the miscreants in one room on his turf and with him as the host to nail them? Sweet.
ERV wrote:I really cannot imagine that 'Women In Secularism' will be used as a personal party for her and her BFFs again. Mostly, because this year that made it way too obvious it is just an excuse for her to throw a party on someone elses dime.Lsuoma wrote:What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.
Oh, and it wouldn't necessarily need to be odours laid down by a target - the smell resulting from bruised vegetation probably varies with time too.Lsuoma wrote:My first guess here is that dogs learn about the relative decay in intensity of the smell of different components of a mixture with time. If you take a mixture of high- and low-boiling components, the overall sensation of smell will surely vary with the length of time since the mixture was laid down. For example, if you take a equimixture of acetone (propanone), hexan-2-one, nonan-2-one, and dodecan-2-one, the olfactory sensation from a freshly spread sample will be different than 30 minutes later, which will again be different from ten hours later.BarnOwl wrote:Humans have pretty good ability to distinguish smells and to localize them (and I agree, you can improve these abilities), but I want recognize the temporal qualities of odors. A dog can follow a scent across great distances and distinguish very specific scents, but in addition it knows how long the scent has been in any given place, i.e. how "old" it is.
This example is predicated on volatility, but lability or reactivity of the components could also create a temporal variation in the olfactory sensation.
I can't, off the top of my head - and with a couple of Dogfish Head 90-Minute IPAs inside of me - think of another cause.
Okay but explain why my dog will pee on a spot, walk around the block, come back to the original spot, then sniff intently as if learning Quite A Bit About the Big Dog who Left That Mark Ten Minutes Ago.Lsuoma wrote:My first guess here is that dogs learn about the relative decay in intensity of the smell of different components of a mixture with time. If you take a mixture of high- and low-boiling components, the overall sensation of smell will surely vary with the length of time since the mixture was laid down. For example, if you take a equimixture of acetone (propanone), hexan-2-one, nonan-2-one, and dodecan-2-one, the olfactory sensation from a freshly spread sample will be different than 30 minutes later, which will again be different from ten hours later.BarnOwl wrote:Humans have pretty good ability to distinguish smells and to localize them (and I agree, you can improve these abilities), but I want recognize the temporal qualities of odors. A dog can follow a scent across great distances and distinguish very specific scents, but in addition it knows how long the scent has been in any given place, i.e. how "old" it is.
This example is predicated on volatility, but lability or reactivity of the components could also create a temporal variation in the olfactory sensation.
I can't, off the top of my head - and with a couple of Dogfish Head 90-Minute IPAs inside of me - think of another cause.
Unfortunately Smelody's job is secure. She's genuinely crazy. Most places are afraid to fire the crazy because of possible legal retribution.Zenspace wrote:Considering her behavior and recently preferred company, she may just be having an 'oh shit' moment about now.Lsuoma wrote:What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.
:popcorn:
Is he taking some time to convince himself that it WAS him that took the piss earlier? Is he learning how quickly his olfactory piss-profile decays? Is he checking that he hasn't been usurped? That some lady-dog with great big hooters has left her calling card?Skep tickle wrote:Okay but explain why my dog will pee on a spot, walk around the block, come back to the original spot, then sniff intently as if learning Quite A Bit About the Big Dog who Left That Mark Ten Minutes Ago.Lsuoma wrote: My first guess here is that dogs learn about the relative decay in intensity of the smell of different components of a mixture with time. If you take a mixture of high- and low-boiling components, the overall sensation of smell will surely vary with the length of time since the mixture was laid down. For example, if you take a equimixture of acetone (propanone), hexan-2-one, nonan-2-one, and dodecan-2-one, the olfactory sensation from a freshly spread sample will be different than 30 minutes later, which will again be different from ten hours later.
This example is predicated on volatility, but lability or reactivity of the components could also create a temporal variation in the olfactory sensation.
I can't, off the top of my head - and with a couple of Dogfish Head 90-Minute IPAs inside of me - think of another cause.
Unlikely to just be him & his particular doggie nose/IQ/etc, because the dog I had before him did the same thing.
Oh and he never seems to 'fess up when he passes stinky gas. (Nor does my husband, for that matter.) :naughty:
Crazy only protects you so far. Let this be a money loser or cause CFI problems, and they'll shoot her out of a cannon.katamari Damassi wrote:Unfortunately Smelody's job is secure. She's genuinely crazy. Most places are afraid to fire the crazy because of possible legal retribution.Zenspace wrote:Considering her behavior and recently preferred company, she may just be having an 'oh shit' moment about now.Lsuoma wrote:What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.
:popcorn:
If Lindsay's earlier actions following his speech was a slap in the face with the gauntlet to Myers and Watson, this last post is pretty much the equivalent of dropping a nuke on them. Hard to think this isn't something that has been in the making for quite some time for Lindsay, and that he knew exactly what kind of responses his initial speech would get, and that he wasn't prepared to follow it up.It may be the most intellectually dishonest piece of writing since the last communique issued by North Korea.
Yes, I can just see her running round the conference rooms, screaming into people's faces: "Are you having a good time? Are you enjoying yourself? Is this an amazing conference or what? Validate me!!!".ERV wrote:I really cannot imagine that 'Women In Secularism' will be used as a personal party for her and her BFFs again. Mostly, because this year that made it way too obvious it is just an excuse for her to throw a party on someone elses dime.Lsuoma wrote:What does that say about "Smellody"'s future?Skep tickle wrote:
At that time I looked up who was on the Board of CFI to see who he was responsible to - no obvious SJWs in that list, so presumably Lindsay's job is safe.