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zenbabe wrote:[quote="ConcentratedH2O, OMNippletwister/Guest, do you have a link to the "hissing" tweet?
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I don't think there's much difference when you substitute the conversations of SJW with those of racist/sexist power groups. Both believe in the innate superiority of one race and gender, but the SJW pretend the blessing comes from patriarchy or "society" while the racist/sexist power groups blame some combination of genetic destiny and god.

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zenbabe wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Guest wrote:
nippletwister wrote: Let's pile on, try to make a hero of Marcotte (who very conveniently was "harassed" again, apparently, some kind of "hissed whisper" on the street today, 'cause you know, she can't go a day without that happening.) and put the pressure on Lindsay.
Jesus, but Marcotte's paranoid. Some guy says something she doesn't even hear and she immediately knows he's a "harasser." Hell, even if the guy did insult her, a single insult doesn't make him a serial harasser. Amanda dear, maybe he just dislikes you?
Nippletwister/Guest, do you have a link to the "hissing" tweet?
Bottom of the page http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/23/t ... -generous/
If it seems baffling to you that people are “into” harassment, I don’t know what to tell you. Why else would people harass? (Don’t say autism, for the love of god. People on the spectrum struggle to interpret social signals. Harassers, on the other hand, are masters at manipulating social rules and actual physical space to creep people out as much as they can get away with. It requires careful study of social signaling, not the opposite.) I got harassed on the sidewalk the other day, because that’s just part of the atmosphere of being female. I didn’t catch exactly what the guy said, because he muttered it, but what he wanted out of the situation couldn’t have been clearer. He had that sly smile, that glint in his eye that harassers get when they manage to capture their target’s attention and make them uncomfortable. It’s the feeling of power they have over you, the little jolt they get from putting a bitch in her place. Why people harass is not a mystery. It makes them feel good to exert power. This motivation is all over the Twitter rampage from the pro-harassment forces. They love drowning out useful tweets about real information with their anti-feminist garbage and ranting. It makes them feel good, like they have power. They can harass you and get under your skin and make you write blog posts about them, and then they feel powerful. It’s all of one cloth, and it’s not about unexamined privilege. It’s about being an asshole. We’re asking them to give up this jolt of feeling powerful they get from making other people sad or angry. No wonder they resent us.
This part was also amusing: "MAKE you write blog posts about them"
They just make stuff up. Even if someone said something, so what? There is no evidence at all it meant anything and even if it did well done for confirming douches exist. Whoopie. The whole post is full of holes. It's all projection and conjecture. Does PMZ REALLY fall for it?

I tell you what Marcotte, today I had 3 women on separate occasions look at the bulge in my trousers. Last week a gay guy come onto me. Did I feel objectified or burst into tears with a desperate urge to write a blog about it? Hell no. What a load of unadulterated crap they spew.

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zenbabe wrote:
Bottom of the page http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/23/t ... -generous/
If it seems baffling to you that people are “into” harassment, I don’t know what to tell you. Why else would people harass? (Don’t say autism, for the love of god. People on the spectrum struggle to interpret social signals. Harassers, on the other hand, are masters at manipulating social rules and actual physical space to creep people out as much as they can get away with. It requires careful study of social signaling, not the opposite.) I got harassed on the sidewalk the other day, because that’s just part of the atmosphere of being female. I didn’t catch exactly what the guy said, because he muttered it, but what he wanted out of the situation couldn’t have been clearer. He had that sly smile, that glint in his eye that harassers get when they manage to capture their target’s attention and make them uncomfortable. It’s the feeling of power they have over you, the little jolt they get from putting a bitch in her place. Why people harass is not a mystery. It makes them feel good to exert power. This motivation is all over the Twitter rampage from the pro-harassment forces. They love drowning out useful tweets about real information with their anti-feminist garbage and ranting. It makes them feel good, like they have power. They can harass you and get under your skin and make you write blog posts about them, and then they feel powerful. It’s all of one cloth, and it’s not about unexamined privilege. It’s about being an asshole. We’re asking them to give up this jolt of feeling powerful they get from making other people sad or angry. No wonder they resent us.
This part was also amusing: "MAKE you write blog posts about them"
I read her sidewalk harassment a few times and sat here trying to visualize what was going on. The guy looked at her, smiling, and muttered something that MUST be harassment? The guy couldn't have taken a minor fancy to her and said "Hello" or "How are you?" Shit like that happens all the time here, a smile, nod, and a hello(which is sometimes inaudible) to a random stranger, never considered it harassment! You're getting desperate for victim points Marcotte... :snooty:

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Voryn wrote: I read her sidewalk harassment a few times and sat here trying to visualize what was going on. The guy looked at her, smiling, and muttered something that MUST be harassment? The guy couldn't have taken a minor fancy to her and said "Hello" or "How are you?" Shit like that happens all the time here, a smile, nod, and a hello(which is sometimes inaudible) to a random stranger, never considered it harassment! You're getting desperate for victim points Marcotte... :snooty:
Inorite

He looked at her with those hot eyes. Like a gypsy.

She seems pretty stuck in being the perpetual petulant victim. Colors what she reads and hears and interactions in meat space, so it's difficult to grant benefit of the doubt.
Jack wrote:I tell you what Marcotte, today I had 3 women on separate occasions look at the bulge in my trousers. Last week a gay guy come onto me. Did I feel objectified or burst into tears with a desperate urge to write a blog about it? Hell no. What a load of unadulterated crap they spew.
Hehe. Desperate urge to blog

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Voryn wrote:
zenbabe wrote:
Bottom of the page http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/23/t ... -generous/
If it seems baffling to you that people are “into” harassment, I don’t know what to tell you. Why else would people harass? (Don’t say autism, for the love of god. People on the spectrum struggle to interpret social signals. Harassers, on the other hand, are masters at manipulating social rules and actual physical space to creep people out as much as they can get away with. It requires careful study of social signaling, not the opposite.) I got harassed on the sidewalk the other day, because that’s just part of the atmosphere of being female. I didn’t catch exactly what the guy said, because he muttered it, but what he wanted out of the situation couldn’t have been clearer. He had that sly smile, that glint in his eye that harassers get when they manage to capture their target’s attention and make them uncomfortable. It’s the feeling of power they have over you, the little jolt they get from putting a bitch in her place. Why people harass is not a mystery. It makes them feel good to exert power. This motivation is all over the Twitter rampage from the pro-harassment forces. They love drowning out useful tweets about real information with their anti-feminist garbage and ranting. It makes them feel good, like they have power. They can harass you and get under your skin and make you write blog posts about them, and then they feel powerful. It’s all of one cloth, and it’s not about unexamined privilege. It’s about being an asshole. We’re asking them to give up this jolt of feeling powerful they get from making other people sad or angry. No wonder they resent us.
This part was also amusing: "MAKE you write blog posts about them"
I read her sidewalk harassment a few times and sat here trying to visualize what was going on. The guy looked at her, smiling, and muttered something that MUST be harassment? The guy couldn't have taken a minor fancy to her and said "Hello" or "How are you?" Shit like that happens all the time here, a smile, nod, and a hello(which is sometimes inaudible) to a random stranger, never considered it harassment! You're getting desperate for victim points Marcotte... :snooty:
This kind of stuff just irks me. It's women like Marcotte that make it so men have no fucking clue what is acceptable when attempting to approach women. I'm surprised she doesn't have a rape whistle, taser, and pepper spray at the ready for each and every public outing.

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Zenspace wrote:Interesting article about predatory male sexual behavior in the military:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/24/opinion/s ... index.html

Comments are an interesting mix - I learned a new word: 'vagithug' :shock:
I stopped here:
OK, we already know a lot about the answer to this question. Yes, there is some biological underpinning for male sexual aggression but also men will have different sexual beliefs and behaviors based on their early models (both family and friends): whether or not they had close relationships with sisters or women friends, and whether they have been exposed to a culture of respect, or disdain, for women.
Then I check to see if it was a woman writing this ... and yes it is. This type of wittering was funny at first but now it is just boring.

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Jack wrote: ...I tell you what Marcotte, today I had 3 women on separate occasions look at the bulge in my trousers...
Well, that's what you get for accepting an invitation to "coffee" at Scented Nectar's house.

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sacha wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
TBH Franc can sometimes piss me off with his scorched earth stirring. Some of the writing on his blog is genius, though. He has an uncanny ability to distill things down to their essence with clarity. Guess you have to take the rough with the smooth.
I know franc better than anyone here, he is a close friend of mine, and is one of the few people on this earth that I trust implicitly.
I'm not sure you have any idea how spot on that comment is.
For some reason that I can't explain Franc does not bother me at all and I enjoy most of his posts. When he goes off the rail a little it is easy enough to move to the next post.

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Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
I definitely get what you're saying, and agree to a point. But it presupposes that the Pit is an organization with actual goals, and not just a place to hang out for people who are sick to death of oversensitive cunts, and just want to throw out the occasional dead-baby joke without being labelled a Suppressive Person.

That said, we really need our dead-baby jokes to be better, people.
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Gefan wrote:
Jack wrote: ...I tell you what Marcotte, today I had 3 women on separate occasions look at the bulge in my trousers...
Well, that's what you get for accepting an invitation to "coffee" at Scented Nectar's house.
Scented Nectar even had a lift fitted. She leaves nothing to chance.

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So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/

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jjbinx007 wrote:So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
Interesting. The dissenters are not getting dogpiled as much as they could have expected. They are being robustly argued with some attacks thrown in. That's fine. It is also notable that the usual suspects are not there such as Josh Spokesgay who always turn any discussion toxic. From this tiny sample size is seems without the rabble rousers some conversation is possible. Also PMZ came down hard on comments wanting people to die. That is fine by me as that does cross the line. It is a shame that PMZ is so quick with the ban hammer. Nothing kills constructive discussion quicker than that.

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jjbinx007 wrote:So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
sleepingwytch links to a site or page that advocates killing all men

sleepingwytch's avatar looks familiar (someone who used to be active at A+ forum; think Chernobyl)


Here's comment #136 (numbering may change if PZ approves some posts or removes some, I suppose) - I've added the bolding here:
Eristae wrote:24 May 2013 at 11:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Not to derail, but are my eyes deceiving me or did sleepingwytch @53 just link approvingly to a kill-all-men screed?I’m… not okay with that. Sleepingwytch, what gives?
Whoa, you’re right! I clicked the link, read like two sentences in, decided it was non-nonsensical and quit reading it, but scanning down to the end, that is indeed what it says.

It . . . doesn’t really work to post that kind of thing on a blog written by a man . . .
But if this were a blog written by a woman it "[would work] to post that kind of thing"? :shock:

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Skep tickle wrote:
jjbinx007 wrote:So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
sleepingwytch links to a site or page that advocates killing all men

sleepingwytch's avatar looks familiar (someone who used to be active at A+ forum; think Chernobyl)


Here's comment #136 (numbering may change if PZ approves some posts or removes some, I suppose) - I've added the bolding here:
Eristae wrote:24 May 2013 at 11:42 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Not to derail, but are my eyes deceiving me or did sleepingwytch @53 just link approvingly to a kill-all-men screed?I’m… not okay with that. Sleepingwytch, what gives?
Whoa, you’re right! I clicked the link, read like two sentences in, decided it was non-nonsensical and quit reading it, but scanning down to the end, that is indeed what it says.

It . . . doesn’t really work to post that kind of thing on a blog written by a man . . .
But if this were a blog written by a woman it "[would work] to post that kind of thing"? :shock:
To be fair sleepingwytch got a lot of flack for doing that. Sorry I am sounding like a contrarian but the general level of posts there I found more constructive than most times when they discuss SJW issues. There was still the same old abuse and assertions but at least it was countered somewhat. Like an echo chamber with a small hole in it.

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cunt wrote:
windy wrote:
John Greg wrote:cunt says:
This forum is a fucking shithole, really.
So, what's got your knickers in hissy twist now?
I guess he can't be arsed to argue some point about Silverman that the rest of us morons got wrong, "probably".

If Silverman was really only asking about specific examples like that mspaint job, why did he demand this ridiculous statement from Justin and approve it afterwards?

http://www.skepticink.com/justinvacula/ ... demnation/
You're right about one thing. I couldn't be arsed to slog through twitter piecing together the conversation or to read jadehawks version of events. Oh and boo-hoo he requested a ridiculous statement from wonder-boy. You know Vacula could have just not written that shit if he actually had such a problem with it.
You seem to be under the impression that people are criticizing Silverman and/or making fun with the hashtag in order to defend Justin. When I called it a "ridiculous statement" I in fact meant that Justin's statement also sucked, I criticized him for it a few pages back. Doesn't change the fact that Silverman was being extremely vague in asking him to denounce "hate" and "shit". So quit yer bitching cunt.

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jjbinx007 wrote:So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
Simpleflower hath returned!

I am my own side with my own take on things, and yes it’s very extremist/terrorist and I have no qualms with that. It’s very understandable (of course) that you do, but I really don’t care. I’m going to stick around whether you or others like it or not, and if you try to ban me, you’ll go from frenemy to enemy.
Yeesh!

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Jack wrote:To be fair sleepingwytch got a lot of flack for doing that. Sorry I am sounding like a contrarian but the general level of posts there I found more constructive than most times when they discuss SJW issues. There was still the same old abuse and assertions but at least it was countered somewhat. Like an echo chamber with a small hole in it.
Agreed; I've been working my way backwards through the thread (reverse chronologic order) & am seeing now that it's actually being handled relatively well, including some people (Anne C. Hanna in particular) who are saying kind, supportive things while still setting limits on what's acceptable.

There does seem to be an absence, from posts #88-135 at least, of anyone suggesting sleepingwytch could be a poe. However, Azkyroth is proposing some reality checks for Xanthe in #92 & 94 (bolding as in original):
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :) 24 May 2013 at 10:21 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Xanthe wrote:Icthyic, the discussion of sleepingwytch’s views is a totally off-topic derailment here. You want to turn this thread into another ‘bash the transgender person with mental illness because she has wacky views’ thread? Go right ahead — and then you can have your own personal Slyme Pit, right here on Pharyngula.
Point the first: her being transgender is irrelevant to my disgust at her views or to any responses in this thread I’ve seen.

Point the second: as noted, she was the one who injected it into a discussion that had no relation whatsoever to her views.

Point the third: as a person with a mental disorder/disability myself I find your attitude here sickeningly patronizing and you can fuck right the hell off.
Azkyroth Drinked the Grammar Too :) 24 May 2013 at 10:22 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Xanthe wrote:I’m defending someone who’s mentally ill. Why are you attacking her?
BECAUSE SHE’S ADVOCATING GENOCIDE?!

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How do you punish a blind kid?



Move the furnitures.


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Sleepingwytch can't be for real, the manifesto is so over the top batshit crazy, and so weirdly contrary to her posts, which seem tailored to really manipulate that crowd. In at least one post she writes of how she was 'shunned' so much by society and her family that she had no choice but to radicalize. And boy howdy did she radicalize.

But wishes it wouldn't be that way? Wants to be treated with kindness?

Anything is possible but I have to think it's an elaborate prank (is the correct term "poe"?), highlighting with the light of a thousand suns a possible ultimate result of a community that marginalizes, abuses, shuns, shuts up.

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Voryn wrote:
jjbinx007 wrote:So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
Simpleflower hath returned!
Wow and with a vengeance, so to speak.

Xanthe does say "I cannot support the repugnant ideas in her pastebin, but neither will I support the comment thread here at Pharyngula becoming another example of transphobic, ableist mockery of someone who has severe problems to deal with in their life." (That's what I get for having read from the bottom upwards.)

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justinvacula wrote:Teresa MacBain to come on Brave Hero Radio - June 22

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bravehero/ ... sa-macbain

Adding more names for future shows, too...if people are interested in being a guest, please consider PMing! Currently, apart from special events like #WIScfi reporting, we're broadcasting once per week and can't get everyone in [immediately] so it may be quite the queue - but I can keep names of those who wish to talk in my PMbox here. Thanks!
Last time I was a guest on a show, it was ReapSowRadio, and I think I was drunk enough that Reap decided not to archive/air the whole mess.

Still a taker?

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Wow, that sleepingwytch. He sounds pretty disturbed to me.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
justinvacula wrote:Teresa MacBain to come on Brave Hero Radio - June 22

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bravehero/ ... sa-macbain

Adding more names for future shows, too...if people are interested in being a guest, please consider PMing! Currently, apart from special events like #WIScfi reporting, we're broadcasting once per week and can't get everyone in [immediately] so it may be quite the queue - but I can keep names of those who wish to talk in my PMbox here. Thanks!
Last time I was a guest on a show, it was ReapSowRadio, and I think I was drunk enough that Reap decided not to archive/air the whole mess.

Still a taker?
He did. I know as I was on it :D

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BarnOwl wrote:
PZ Myers
24 May 2013 at 4:15 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
I don’t get it either. I was just reviewing my talk for tomorrow, and I’ve got a line in there where I say that science isn’t enough…and specifically bring up sociology as a fundamental discipline we need to solve the world’s problems.
:roll:
PZ doesn't consider sociology to be science? :think: Is this some American terminology thing where science is defined narrowly as the natural sciences? (I know sociologists don't always act the part, but it at least aspires to be a social science)

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Jack wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
justinvacula wrote:Teresa MacBain to come on Brave Hero Radio - June 22

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bravehero/ ... sa-macbain

Adding more names for future shows, too...if people are interested in being a guest, please consider PMing! Currently, apart from special events like #WIScfi reporting, we're broadcasting once per week and can't get everyone in [immediately] so it may be quite the queue - but I can keep names of those who wish to talk in my PMbox here. Thanks!
Last time I was a guest on a show, it was ReapSowRadio, and I think I was drunk enough that Reap decided not to archive/air the whole mess.

Still a taker?
He did. I know as I was on it :D
Oh, yeah, quite right there Jack. I never saw any link, and somehow I feel it should stay that way... :whistle:

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Jack wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
justinvacula wrote:Teresa MacBain to come on Brave Hero Radio - June 22

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bravehero/ ... sa-macbain

Adding more names for future shows, too...if people are interested in being a guest, please consider PMing! Currently, apart from special events like #WIScfi reporting, we're broadcasting once per week and can't get everyone in [immediately] so it may be quite the queue - but I can keep names of those who wish to talk in my PMbox here. Thanks!
Last time I was a guest on a show, it was ReapSowRadio, and I think I was drunk enough that Reap decided not to archive/air the whole mess.

Still a taker?
He did. I know as I was on it :D
Oh, yeah, quite right there Jack. I never saw any link, and somehow I feel it should stay that way... :whistle:
Please note my discretion in not mentioning it until you did:) Actually , you were fine. You just kinda faded away.

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Jack wrote:
Please note my discretion in not mentioning it until you did:) Actually , you were fine. You just kinda faded away.
I really was as pissed as pissed can be. It was, like, 3am or something? Maybe even later when we finished. If you have a link, I'll take it in PM. I like to make a fool of meself, but not so much advertising it. Much.

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If FB is not lying, happy birthday Steersman!

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Jack wrote:
Please note my discretion in not mentioning it until you did:) Actually , you were fine. You just kinda faded away.
I really was as pissed as pissed can be. It was, like, 3am or something? Maybe even later when we finished. If you have a link, I'll take it in PM. I like to make a fool of meself, but not so much advertising it. Much.
You were just doing your Ozzie Osbourne impression. Really, you were OK. I'll send the link.

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Jack wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Jack wrote:
Please note my discretion in not mentioning it until you did:) Actually , you were fine. You just kinda faded away.
I really was as pissed as pissed can be. It was, like, 3am or something? Maybe even later when we finished. If you have a link, I'll take it in PM. I like to make a fool of meself, but not so much advertising it. Much.
You were just doing your Ozzie Osbourne impression. Really, you were OK. I'll send the link.
Muchas thanksias!

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Jack wrote:
jjbinx007 wrote:So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
Interesting. The dissenters are not getting dogpiled as much as they could have expected. They are being robustly argued with some attacks thrown in. That's fine. It is also notable that the usual suspects are not there such as Josh Spokesgay who always turn any discussion toxic. From this tiny sample size is seems without the rabble rousers some conversation is possible. Also PMZ came down hard on comments wanting people to die. That is fine by me as that does cross the line. It is a shame that PMZ is so quick with the ban hammer. Nothing kills constructive discussion quicker than that.
Josh is there. But PZ moderates now, instead of sitting back and watching it wind up to the extremes. When he has to step in and ask his followers to not wish people to die by comment 22, they still have some way to go I think. Also, large parts were taken up by that POE that doubles as a troubled soul, thereby averted retaliation. They are now looking for the new target, and if the thread keeps going, will find one to hone in.

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Aneris wrote:
Jack wrote:
jjbinx007 wrote:So there quite a shitstorm going on in the comments:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
Interesting. The dissenters are not getting dogpiled as much as they could have expected. They are being robustly argued with some attacks thrown in. That's fine. It is also notable that the usual suspects are not there such as Josh Spokesgay who always turn any discussion toxic. From this tiny sample size is seems without the rabble rousers some conversation is possible. Also PMZ came down hard on comments wanting people to die. That is fine by me as that does cross the line. It is a shame that PMZ is so quick with the ban hammer. Nothing kills constructive discussion quicker than that.
Josh is there. But PZ moderates now, instead of sitting back and watching it wind up to the extremes. When he has to step in and ask his followers to not wish people to die by comment 22, they still have some way to go I think. Also, large parts were taken up by that POE that doubles as a troubled soul, thereby averted retaliation. They are now looking for the new target, and if the thread keeps going, will find one to hone in.
It hasn't escaped my notice that the only reason PZ moderated in that instance is because it made HIM feel uncomfortable. And that, only because he's actually fairly likely to die before Dawkins. So, lesson learned. When you attack others in ways that hit PZ a little too close to home, he will stand up and end that bullshit!

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This whole you can only be racist to minorities or sexist to females due to power dynamics seems very disingenuous. It seems a complete distortion of how the word racism is commonly used. Academic sociologists can't prescribe how certain word is to be used as the meaning of words in the vast majority of cases from use. The sociological definition completely removes the word racism from many of the contexts and situations were the word can be usefully used, engaging in a certain type of untenable linguistic essentialism. Dawkins was and is right to say racism can run both ways.

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There's some delicious irony on show in that pharyngula thread.
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25 May 2013 at 4:22 am (UTC -5)

Andywatson:
Why, why, why can NONE of you ‘both sides are just as bad’ people EVER say what the feminists have said or done that is anywhere as bad as what the Slymepit has? You people always talk vaguely, unable or unwilling to get specific.
So here’s your chance: get specific or leave.

The slymepitters and people like them that have created the rift in the community have engaged in continuous harassment on Twitter (Ophelia Benson has a continuing series where she documents the harassment), the farewell post by Jen McCreight listed in detail the barrage she was under that drove her to take a hiatus. Rebecca Watson has spoken repeatedly about the barrage of vile, unbridled hatred she continues to get. Ophelia and PZ both had images of themselves photoshopped. Greta Christina has a continuing series about what these fuckholes have said and still say about here (stuff about how ugly she is or needs to die or get raped)
These are people who think its funny to joke about raping a Skepchick.
These are people who use gendered slurs as insults because they don’t care if they insult others—BASED ON THEIR GENDER.
These are people that invitite the Westboro Baptist Church to a Women in Secularism conference.
These are people who count among their allies a vacuous, callous, shitbag with ties to A Voice for Men–a women’s hate group.
These are people who create entire videos in YouTube for the sole purpose of calling women c*n*s.
These are people who, when Greta Christina was diagnosed with cancer, intially offered well wishes and a desire to assist her financially only to revoke said offer because people said mean things about them.
These are people who wrote vicious screeds against Greta Christina for asking for financial aid in the first place.
These are people who again treated Greta Christina like dirt because she bought shoes after her treatments.
These are people who think they get a say in what someone does with donated money.
These are people who create fake Twitter accounts in the name of FtB bloggers and say hateful things.
These are people who support Thunderf00t in his misogynistic ranting against anti-harassment policies.
I am sick of you people who act like both sides do it.
Everything I just listed can be found easily. I remember it all, as do many others.
WHAT IN THE EVER LOVING fuck has anyone: PZ, Greta, Ophelia, Jen, Stephanie, Rebecca, Surly Amy, any Pharyngula commenters or anyone on the feminist side ever done that compares to the laundry list of despicable, bottom feeder tactics of the Pitters?
And its going to take a long list of comparable deeds to match what they have done. So if all you can list is “someone told someone to die in a fire” you can stop right now (especially since the commenter who said that long ago apologized and has not said anything like that again AND one example up against the leaning tower of Pit Shit does not compare)

So, can you put up?
I’m not going to hold my breath.

So says Tony...

...in a thread where one of the commenters has posted a link to a screed calling for the murder of every man in the world - and all cis-gendered woman who opposes this genocide.
Your death awaits you men, calculated, seductive, inevitable, complete and utter annihilation, until you sleep forever, until you are nothing but a bad memory in the collective memory of humanity. Should it be the case that cisgendered women are inevitably reactionary, they too should be exterminated, such a situation would leave then only transwomen, agendered and third gendered people. Hopefully this is not the case, but if it would be the case, Red Queen 2nd option should be initiated by the concerned parties, to assume the genocidal task towards ciswomen if they are found to be inexorably reactionary and reflexive due to an innate need for men or an innate and unalterable support of patriarchial goals or the existence of men. This is not to be assumed to be the case, but if it is found to be the case, 2nd option should be enacted, and secret societies and secret associations, ciphers, codes, plans, etc, should be enacted to make 2nd option a reality.
But wouldn't that basically mean killing almost everyody in the world - 7 billlion people?

Obviously she's not getting a hell of a lot of support for this idea but it's interesting that she hasn't been banned.

It is also worth noting that Tony The Virtual Queer Shoop! (I'm still not convinced that he's a POE) uses the standard FTB tactic of associating any single problematic statement made by a member of the slymepit with every other member of the slymepit. Indeed he links actions of trolls opposed to the FTB crowd, to the slymepit.

Is it therefore fair that we now associate SleepingWytch's views with pharyngula?
It makes as much sense as the FTB tactic of linking all of us to any statement they detest, doesn't it?
:shifty:

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: TBH Franc can sometimes piss me off with his scorched earth stirring. Some of the writing on his blog is genius, though. He has an uncanny ability to distill things down to their essence with clarity. Guess you have to take the rough with the smooth.
I like Franc, but he's not the end-all to the end-all that he pretends to be.

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Gumby wrote:I like Franc, but he's not the end-all to the end-all that he pretends to be.
PZ Myers is proud to announce that the FTB school of mind-reading has acquired another A+ graduate.

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It's okay when they advocate genocide, not okay when we use the word cunt. Only one is a bannable offense!

I don't think there's a better demonstration of how stupid this shit is.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:
Voryn wrote:
zenbabe wrote:
Bottom of the page http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/23/t ... -generous/
If it seems baffling to you that people are “into” harassment, I don’t know what to tell you. Why else would people harass? (Don’t say autism, for the love of god. People on the spectrum struggle to interpret social signals. Harassers, on the other hand, are masters at manipulating social rules and actual physical space to creep people out as much as they can get away with. It requires careful study of social signaling, not the opposite.) I got harassed on the sidewalk the other day, because that’s just part of the atmosphere of being female. I didn’t catch exactly what the guy said, because he muttered it, but what he wanted out of the situation couldn’t have been clearer. He had that sly smile, that glint in his eye that harassers get when they manage to capture their target’s attention and make them uncomfortable. It’s the feeling of power they have over you, the little jolt they get from putting a bitch in her place. Why people harass is not a mystery. It makes them feel good to exert power. This motivation is all over the Twitter rampage from the pro-harassment forces. They love drowning out useful tweets about real information with their anti-feminist garbage and ranting. It makes them feel good, like they have power. They can harass you and get under your skin and make you write blog posts about them, and then they feel powerful. It’s all of one cloth, and it’s not about unexamined privilege. It’s about being an asshole. We’re asking them to give up this jolt of feeling powerful they get from making other people sad or angry. No wonder they resent us.
This part was also amusing: "MAKE you write blog posts about them"
I read her sidewalk harassment a few times and sat here trying to visualize what was going on. The guy looked at her, smiling, and muttered something that MUST be harassment? The guy couldn't have taken a minor fancy to her and said "Hello" or "How are you?" Shit like that happens all the time here, a smile, nod, and a hello(which is sometimes inaudible) to a random stranger, never considered it harassment! You're getting desperate for victim points Marcotte... :snooty:
This kind of stuff just irks me. It's women like Marcotte that make it so men have no fucking clue what is acceptable when attempting to approach women. I'm surprised she doesn't have a rape whistle, taser, and pepper spray at the ready for each and every public outing.
I think you give her too much credit. It's not the actions that she thinks is harassing. It's the person itself. She's objecting to the existence of "creepy" people. If it was someone who she didn't find personally "creepy" she wouldn't have two problems with that behavior.

It's her own privilege and entitlement at play here.

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bovarchist wrote: It hasn't escaped my notice that the only reason PZ moderated in that instance is because it made HIM feel uncomfortable. And that, only because he's actually fairly likely to die before Dawkins. So, lesson learned. When you attack others in ways that hit PZ a little too close to home, he will stand up and end that bullshit!
Yes, his "heart condition," which, IIRC refers to coronary artery disease alleviated by stents. Surprising that more of his fans and friends don't get on his case about diet, exercise, and other lifestyle changes. Leisurely walks through cities that you jet around to for conferences just don't hack it for "exercise," I'm afraid.

The proponent of androcide apologizes (sort of):
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25 May 2013 at 6:21 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment
The chandelier looks incredible, very pretty =~)

I’ve been going through anxiety attacks and dissociation in bed for the last six hours, so I’m about to goto sleep soon, hopefully. Sorry about earlier, I really struggle to be a good humanist.

I hope the conference is going well PZ, and that you enjoy it.
I guess that makes it all OK, right? :roll:

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Karmakin wrote: I think you give her too much credit. It's not the actions that she thinks is harassing. It's the person itself. She's objecting to the existence of "creepy" people. If it was someone who she didn't find personally "creepy" she wouldn't have two problems with that behavior.

It's her own privilege and entitlement at play here.
I think that also describes rather well a certain incident involving Rebecca Watson, an unknown male, and an Irish elevator (assuming that incident actually took place, which I have always doubted.) Actually, I've had a 'shop in mind about that very mindset you describe.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:It is also worth noting that Tony The Virtual Queer Shoop! (I'm still not convinced that he's a POE) uses the standard FTB tactic of associating any single problematic statement made by a member of the slymepit with every other member of the slymepit. Indeed he links actions of trolls opposed to the FTB crowd, to the slymepit.

Is it therefore fair that we now associate SleepingWytch's views with pharyngula?
It makes as much sense as the FTB tactic of linking all of us to any statement they detest, doesn't it?
:shifty:
They do this all the time, even before I signed up here. Again, this comes back to where responsiblities lie:
  • We do not conspire on the board to do certain deplorable actions.
  • We do not work together and create depicable photoshops, or videos.
  • We do not help each other how to create material that angers, harasses etc. other people.
  • The twitterers they are complaining about have no connection to the slymepit. They are either different people, or use different nyms. Again, orchestration here does not take place. In fact, they could be FTB regulars just as well.
  • The satire and mockery we DO is out in the open, not edited or deleted and can be viewed. That means, our antgonists can't claim we had "cleaned up" one day their house of cards collapses.
I felt this should be told them somewhere, but I haven't found an opportunity to post it somewhere (or it was denied due to moderation policies).

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rayshul wrote:It's okay when they advocate genocide, not okay when we use the word cunt. Only one is a bannable offense!

I don't think there's a better demonstration of how stupid this shit is.
That's because the word "cunt" is much, much worse than genocide, didn't you know that?

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Aneris wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:It is also worth noting that Tony The Virtual Queer Shoop! (I'm still not convinced that he's a POE) uses the standard FTB tactic of associating any single problematic statement made by a member of the slymepit with every other member of the slymepit. Indeed he links actions of trolls opposed to the FTB crowd, to the slymepit.

Is it therefore fair that we now associate SleepingWytch's views with pharyngula?
It makes as much sense as the FTB tactic of linking all of us to any statement they detest, doesn't it?
:shifty:
They do this all the time, even before I signed up here. Again, this comes back to where responsiblities lie:
  • We do not conspire on the board to do certain deplorable actions.
  • We do not work together and create depicable photoshops, or videos.
  • We do not help each other how to create material that angers, harasses etc. other people.
  • The twitterers they are complaining about have no connection to the slymepit. They are either different people, or use different nyms. Again, orchestration here does not take place. In fact, they could be FTB regulars just as well.
  • The satire and mockery we DO is out in the open, not edited or deleted and can be viewed. That means, our antgonists can't claim we had "cleaned up" one day their house of cards collapses.
I felt this should be told them somewhere, but I haven't found an opportunity to post it somewhere (or it was denied due to moderation policies).
Do you really think pointing out these things to them will make any difference in their accusations? You can't reason unreasonable people out of an unreasonable position, or however the old saying goes. Besides, all this has more or less been explained to them before, at various times. Reality means nothing to them, only their war on us matters to them.

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Yay, the piranhas are back! Good one Jan.

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Calling someone a cunt isn't "insulting them based on their gender." That's just something whiny cunts say.

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Gefan wrote:
Jack wrote: ...I tell you what Marcotte, today I had 3 women on separate occasions look at the bulge in my trousers...
Well, that's what you get for accepting an invitation to "coffee" at Scented Nectar's house.
I was hoping for a foursome, energized by my outrageously strong coffee, but my friends all arrived at different times ("separate occasions"). Ah well, some other time. :D

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Jack wrote:
Gefan wrote:
Jack wrote: ...I tell you what Marcotte, today I had 3 women on separate occasions look at the bulge in my trousers...
Well, that's what you get for accepting an invitation to "coffee" at Scented Nectar's house.
Scented Nectar even had a lift fitted. She leaves nothing to chance.
True. I even went a bit overboard. The building I live in has THREE elevators! It only proves what a sexual predator I am. :twisted:

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Some weirdo shows up to make the argument at A+ that atheism/theism are the same thing, buddhism, blah, blah, whatever, gets banned. No big deal.

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4779

But the standard snotty A+ moderator practice of spoiler-hiding people's posts and replacing them with moderator snark? Pick your poison -- Either they have profound contempt for readers and members, who are presumably too stupid and impressionable to be exposed to posts people like Submor and Ceepolk have deemed badthink, or -- more obviously the case -- they just can't resist the cheap thrill of the juvenile 'fixed that for ya' ego trip. Either way, what a fucking dump.

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Am I the only one who felt a little weird about that Sleepingwytch thing? I mean she's clearly got problems and for the most part spent that thread apologizing... and if you read that pastebin shit, it's so absurd as to be almost funny.

I feel like, if there were ever time to cut someone a break, that would have been it. But she got piled on as if she was a slymepitter.

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PZ Myers wrote:When they photoshop our faces onto porn, when they call us “manginas” and “cunts”, when they flood CFI conference streams with denigrating insults to the speakers, they are not making “free inquiry”, they are not using “free speech” in a “quest for truth” or to advance “human dignity”.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ?wpmp_tp=1

I may have asked this before, but who has ever photoshopped PZ Myers onto porn? This is an accusation that is regularly made, but I doubt any of the Slymepit photoshoppers has the required combination of a poor sense of humour, dubious ethics and above all a strong enough stomach to do such a thing.

As for "denigrating insults" (are there non-denigrating insults?), look who's talking. If PZ got a dollar for every time he used the word "asshole" he could quit scrubbing aquariums for a living.

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Jan Steen wrote:
PZ Myers wrote:When they photoshop our faces onto porn, when they call us “manginas” and “cunts”, when they flood CFI conference streams with denigrating insults to the speakers, they are not making “free inquiry”, they are not using “free speech” in a “quest for truth” or to advance “human dignity”.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ?wpmp_tp=1

I may have asked this before, but who has ever photoshopped PZ Myers onto porn? This is an accusation that is regularly made, but I doubt any of the Slymepit photoshoppers has the required combination of a poor sense of humour, dubious ethics and above all a strong enough stomach to do such a thing.

As for "denigrating insults" (are there non-denigrating insults?), look who's talking. If PZ got a dollar for every time he used the word "asshole" he could quit scrubbing aquariums for a living.
A troll on one of the Nugnut threads linked to PeePee and Grag shopped onto gay porn. A Pitter (!) (me) pointed this out to NugNut and he edited it out.

BTW, how IS that dialogue going?

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I just watched the Raising The Bar episode of South Park, and it made me think of FTB.

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Jan Steen wrote:
PZ Myers wrote:When they photoshop our faces onto porn, when they call us “manginas” and “cunts”, when they flood CFI conference streams with denigrating insults to the speakers, they are not making “free inquiry”, they are not using “free speech” in a “quest for truth” or to advance “human dignity”.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ?wpmp_tp=1

I may have asked this before, but who has ever photoshopped PZ Myers onto porn? This is an accusation that is regularly made, but I doubt any of the Slymepit photoshoppers has the required combination of a poor sense of humour, dubious ethics and above all a strong enough stomach to do such a thing.

As for "denigrating insults" (are there non-denigrating insults?), look who's talking. If PZ got a dollar for every time he used the word "asshole" he could quit scrubbing aquariums for a living.
The only porno photoshops were those posted to Nugents site by some anonymous asshole.

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Lsuoma wrote: BTW, how IS that dialogue going?
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Lsuoma wrote:
Jan Steen wrote:
PZ Myers wrote:When they photoshop our faces onto porn, when they call us “manginas” and “cunts”, when they flood CFI conference streams with denigrating insults to the speakers, they are not making “free inquiry”, they are not using “free speech” in a “quest for truth” or to advance “human dignity”.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ?wpmp_tp=1

I may have asked this before, but who has ever photoshopped PZ Myers onto porn? This is an accusation that is regularly made, but I doubt any of the Slymepit photoshoppers has the required combination of a poor sense of humour, dubious ethics and above all a strong enough stomach to do such a thing.

As for "denigrating insults" (are there non-denigrating insults?), look who's talking. If PZ got a dollar for every time he used the word "asshole" he could quit scrubbing aquariums for a living.
A troll on one of the Nugnut threads linked to PeePee and Grag shopped onto gay porn. A Pitter (!) (me) pointed this out to NugNut and he edited it out.

BTW, how IS that dialogue going?
So a Pitter pointed it out. Guilty by association. Now let's attack Peezus for promoting genocide.

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