Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

#19046

Something strange is happening on YouTube today. All the dislikes have disappeared off every video...Is anybody else seeing this or is it just my end?

#19047

Cunning Punt wrote:
cunt wrote:Extremely NSFW.

http://www.gaytube.com/media/325922/The ... _whimpers/

What the fuckety fuck fuck fuck is going on? :o

Well, if your reaction was anything like mine your eyeballs have probably leapt out of their sockets and are now cowering under the fridge and refusing to come out.
Trying to coax them out whilst in mid-seizure was no easy matter either.

#19048

Gefan wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:
cunt wrote:Extremely NSFW.

http://www.gaytube.com/media/325922/The ... _whimpers/

What the fuckety fuck fuck fuck is going on? :o
Well, if your reaction was anything like mine your eyeballs have probably leapt out of their sockets and are now cowering under the fridge and refusing to come out.
Trying to coax them out whilst in mid-seizure was no easy matter either.

It was very difficult to masturbate to.

#19049

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Gefan wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:
cunt wrote:Extremely NSFW.

http://www.gaytube.com/media/325922/The ... _whimpers/

What the fuckety fuck fuck fuck is going on? :o
Well, if your reaction was anything like mine your eyeballs have probably leapt out of their sockets and are now cowering under the fridge and refusing to come out.
Trying to coax them out whilst in mid-seizure was no easy matter either.
It was very difficult to masturbate to.

I wonder if we could allow The Amazing Atheist a greater role in atheism other than as a sex toy.

I'd heard he'd done something stupid like this before but I've never been interested in searching for it.
Thanks a bunch :naughty:

#19050

karlaporter wrote:I asked Justin Vacula to agree to allow me to interview him, no holds barred, no questions off limit. My thought is that if people knew him aside of this Internet war they would find he is a likable enough guy. So, get ready to learn things you never knew about JV. This was totally MY idea, this is not about 'self-promotion' - it's about getting to know people outside of the issues, for who they really are. He flipped this idea right on me and said "then you'll be next". I'm quite private when it comes to my personal life so at first I declined, saying I felt it would be too invasive. And then I took the challenge. I'm always asking show guests questions about themselves - why should I have special exemption? What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Anyway, here are the details... I hope you'll consider tuning in. XO

http://www.skepticink.com/justinvacula/ ... la-porter/

Probably, on balance, a good idea. Who is it aimed at, though? I wonder how many people outside of the FTB sphere have been fooled by the hysteria, or are even interested. Justin's accusers have shown themselves incapable of questioning their stance, at least in my experience. I can understand that JV may feel aggrieved and want to address the injustice, but I think he would be better served by distancing himself from the personal battles and ignoring the attacks. The FTB influence is likely not as important as it sometimes appears and there is doesn't seem much upside to getting covered in shit wrestling pigs.

#19051

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
karlaporter wrote:I asked Justin Vacula to agree to allow me to interview him, no holds barred, no questions off limit. My thought is that if people knew him aside of this Internet war they would find he is a likable enough guy. So, get ready to learn things you never knew about JV. This was totally MY idea, this is not about 'self-promotion' - it's about getting to know people outside of the issues, for who they really are. He flipped this idea right on me and said "then you'll be next". I'm quite private when it comes to my personal life so at first I declined, saying I felt it would be too invasive. And then I took the challenge. I'm always asking show guests questions about themselves - why should I have special exemption? What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Anyway, here are the details... I hope you'll consider tuning in. XO

http://www.skepticink.com/justinvacula/ ... la-porter/
Probably, on balance, a good idea. Who is it aimed at, though? I wonder how many people outside of the FTB sphere have been fooled by the hysteria, or are even interested. Justin's accusers have shown themselves incapable of questioning their stance, at least in my experience. I can understand that JV may feel aggrieved and want to address the injustice, but I think he would be better served by distancing himself from the personal battles and ignoring the attacks. The FTB influence is likely not as important as it sometimes appears and there is doesn't seem much upside to getting covered in shit wrestling pigs.

Vacula seems to be the only person they really want to regularly take on, which, to me, is indicitave of only one thing: they think he's an easy target.

Vacula always confuses me. He clearly does some good atheism activism, far more than the vast majority of the FTB/Atheismplus crowd.
At the same time he regularly does stupid stuff - and by that I mean he does stuff that is easy for his opponents to portray as harrassing/anti-feminist etc.
The Surly Amy address was one example, as was allowing AVFM to publish a guest post from him. The other would be his regular tweets baiting Benson.
Justin, Ophelia is not quite all there in the head. She doesn't react the same way a normal person does. It's best to leave her alone or at least come out and say you have no interest in making contact with her at that conference.
And what the hell is this idea of going to that conference?
Is it just to wind them up?
(Fair enough if it is, but the way you are going about it seems strange)
And finally, what's with the regular tweets criticising feminists/feminism?
That is too broad a term to deserve blanket condemnation from you. The FTB feminists are a malicious self serving bunch, that is true, but they don't represent all branches of feminism. Condemning all feminists is only going to alienate many people who could be your ally.

#19052

Dick Strawkins wrote:Condemning all feminists is only going to alienate many people who could be your ally.

Just don't expect a cookie for it Justin.

I think their opposition to him is due to the name. It sounds and spells very similar to 'Justicar'.

Well, that and his harassing M.O.

(Moustache of Oppression)

#19053

Submariner wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:Condemning all feminists is only going to alienate many people who could be your ally.
Just don't expect a cookie for it Justin.

I think their opposition to him is due to the name. It sounds and spells very similar to 'Justicar'.

Well, that and his harassing M.O.

(Moustache of Oppression)

Ever since someone here called him 'Cunt Vacula', that's all I hear in my head whenever I read his name :(

#19054

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Ever since someone here called him 'Cunt Vacula', that's all I hear in my head whenever I read his name :(

One. One misandric feminist. Two. Two misandric feminists. Ha, ha, ha.

#19055

OK, time for a diversion.
What happens when you troll a sexchat site...
http://www.megalomaniac.com/~andrew/fun ... cyber.html

My favorite is the pirate one.

------------

sweet17: Hi
Bloodninja: hello
Bloodninja: who is this?
sweet17: just a someone?
Bloodninja: A someone I know?
sweet17: nope
Bloodninja: Then why the hell are you bothering me?
sweet17: well sorrrrrry
sweet17: I just wanted to chat with you
Bloodninja: why?
sweet17: nevermind your an jerk
Bloodninja: Hey wait a minute
sweet17: yes?
Bloodninja: look I'm sorry. I'm just a little paranoid
sweet17: paranoid?
Bloodninja: yes
sweet17: of what?
sweet17: me?
Bloodninja: No. I'm in hiding.
sweet17: LOL
Bloodninja: Don't f**king laugh at me!
Bloodninja: This s**t is serious!
sweet17: What are you hiding from?
Bloodninja: The cops.
sweet17: gimme a f**king break
Bloodninja: I'm serious.
sweet17: I don't get it
Bloodninja: The cops are after me.
sweet17: For what?
Bloodninja: I'm wanted in three states
sweet17: For???
Bloodninja: It's kind of embarrasing.
Bloodninja: I had sex with a turkey.
Bloodninja: Hello?
sweet17: You are f**king sick.
Bloodninja: Send me your picture.
sweet17: why?
Bloodninja: so I know you aren't one of them.
sweet17: One of what?
Bloodninja: The cops.
sweet17: I'm not a cop i told you
Bloodninja: Then send me your picture.
sweet17: hold on
Bloodninja: Hurry up.
Bloodninja: Are you there?
Bloodninja: F**k you, cop!
sweet17: Hey sorry
sweet17: I had to do something for my mom.
Bloodninja: I thought you were trying to find a picture to send to me.
Bloodninja: When really you were notifying the authorities.
Bloodninja: Weren't you!?
sweet17: thats not it
Bloodninja: Then what?
sweet17: I don't want to send you the picture cause I'm not pretty
Bloodninja: Most cops aren't
sweet17: IM NOT A F**KING COP YOU A**HOLE!
Bloodninja: Then send me the picture.
sweet17: fine. What's your e-mail?
Bloodninja: Just send it through here.
sweet17: alright *PIC*
sweet17: Did you get it?
Bloodninja: Hold on. I'm looking.
sweet17: That was me back in may
sweet17: I've lost weight since then.
Bloodninja: I hope so
sweet17: what?!?
sweet17: that hurt my feelings.
Bloodninja: Did it?
sweet17: Yes. I'm not that much smaller than that now.
Bloodninja: Will it make you feel better if I send you my picture?
sweet17: yes
Bloodninja: Alright let me find it.
sweet17: kks
Bloodninja: Okay here it is. *PIC*
sweet17: this isn't you.
Bloodninja: I'll be damned if it ain't!
sweet17: You don't look like that.
Bloodninja: How the hell do you know?
sweet17: cause your profile has another picture.
Bloodninja: The profile pic is a fake.
Bloodninja: I use it to hide from the cops.
sweet17: You look like the Farm Fresh guy lol
Bloodninja: Well, you look like you ATE the Farm Fresh guy....
Bloodninja: Not to mention all the groceries.
sweet17: Go f**k yourself
Bloodninja: I was going to until I saw that picture
Bloodninja: Now my unit won't get hard for a week.
sweet17: I shouldn't have sent you that picture.
sweet17: You've done nothing but slam me.
sweet17: you hurt me.
Bloodninja: And calling me the Farm Fresh guy doesn't hurt me?
sweet17: I thought you were bullcrapping me!
Bloodninja: Why would I do that?
sweet17: I can't believe that cops are after you
Bloodninja: I can't believe Santa lets you sit on his lap..
sweet17: F((K YOU!!!
Bloodninja: You'd break both of his legs.
sweet17: You're a F**KING A**HOLE!
sweet17: I've been teased my whole life because of my weight
sweet17: and you make fun of me when you don't even know me
Bloodninja: Ok. I'm sorry.
sweet17: No you aren't
Bloodninja: You're right. I'm not.
Bloodninja: HAARRRRR!
sweet17: I'm done with you
Bloodninja: Aww. I'm sorry.
sweet17: I'm putting you on ignore
Bloodninja: Wait a sec
Bloodninja: We got off on the wrong foot.
Bloodninja: Wanna start over?
sweet17: No
Bloodninja: I'll eat your kitty
sweet17: You'll what?
Bloodninja: You heard me.
Bloodninja: I said I'd eat your kitty.
sweet17: I thought you said you couldn't get it hard after seeing my picture
Bloodninja: Do I need a hard-on to eat your kitty?
sweet17: I'd like to know that the man eating me out is excited yes
Bloodninja: Well I'm not like most men.
Bloodninja: I get excited in different ways.
sweet17: Like what?
Bloodninja: Do you really wanna know?
sweet17: I don't know
Bloodninja: You have to tell me yes or no.
sweet17: I'm afraid to
Bloodninja: Why?
sweet17: cause
Bloodninja: cause why?
sweet17: well lets see
sweet17: you say you have sex with turkeys. You call me fat. then you wanna eat me out
sweet17: doesn't that seem strange to you?
Bloodninja: Nope
sweet17: well its strange to me
Bloodninja: Fine. I won't do it if you don't want me to
sweet17: I didn't say that
Bloodninja: So is that a yes?
sweet17: I guess so.
Bloodninja: Ok. I need your help getting excited though.
Bloodninja: Are you willing?
sweet17: What do you need me to do?
Bloodninja: I need you talk like a pirate.
sweet17: ???
Bloodninja: When I start to go limp... you say "HARRRR!!!"
Bloodninja: ok?
Bloodninja: Hello?
sweet17: You can't be serious
Bloodninja: Oh yes I am!
Bloodninja: It's my fantasy.
sweet17: this is retarded
Bloodninja: Do you want it or not?
sweet17: Yes I want it.
Bloodninja: Then you'll do it for me?
sweet17: sure
Bloodninja: Ok. Here we go.
Bloodninja: I gently remove your panties and being to massage your thighs.
Bloodninja: You get really juicy thinking about my tounge brushing up against them
Bloodninja: I softly begin to tounge your wet kitty.
Bloodninja: I run my tounge up and down your smooth c**t.
sweet17: mmmm yeah
Bloodninja: uh oh ...going limp.
sweet17: Har
Bloodninja: You gotta do better than that!
Bloodninja: Your picture was really bad.
sweet17: HARRRRRRRRRRRR
Bloodninja: Ahhhh. Much better. I feel your kitty get more moist with every stroke.
Bloodninja: I softly suck on your cl*t bringing it in and out of my mouth.
Bloodninja: Your juices run down my chin as your scent makes its way to my nose.
Bloodninja: I begin to feel empowered by your femininity.
sweet17: mmmmmm you are good
Bloodninja: I feel your thighs tighten as I suck harder
Bloodninja: going limp
sweet17: HARRRRRRR
Bloodninja: Mmmm I grab your swelling buttocks in my hands.
Bloodninja: You begin to sway back and forth.
Bloodninja: going limp
sweet17: this is stupid
Bloodninja: ...still limp
Bloodninja: Do it!
sweet17: HARRRRRRRRRRRRR
Bloodninja: I turn you around to lick your a**hole.
Bloodninja: I pry apart that battleship you call your ass.
Bloodninja: I see poo nuggets hanging from the hair around your ass.
sweet17: WTF?!?!?
Bloodninja: They stink really bad.
sweet17: OMG STOP!!!
Bloodninja: I start to get fed up with your ugly ass
Bloodninja: I tear off your wooden peg leg.
Bloodninja: I ram it up your ass.
sweet17: YOURE A F**KING PYSCHO!!
Bloodninja: Then I pour hot carmel over your head.
Bloodninja: And turn you into a f**king candy apple...
Bloodninja: I kick you in the face!
sweet17: F**K YOU A**HOLE!!
Bloodninja: The celluloid from your cheeks hits the side of the cabin...
Bloodninja: Your parrot flys away.
Bloodninja: ...going limp again.
Bloodninja: Hello?
Bloodninja: Say it!
Bloodninja: HAARRRRRR!!!!!

__________

#19056

Submariner wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
Ever since someone here called him 'Cunt Vacula', that's all I hear in my head whenever I read his name :(

One. One misandric feminist. Two. Two misandric feminists. Ha, ha, ha.

From http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2013/04/pe ... d-vac.html

http://i.imgur.com/oLRCxd9.jpg

#19057

Tony Parsehole wrote:Something strange is happening on YouTube today. All the dislikes have disappeared off every video...Is anybody else seeing this or is it just my end?

Not just you - I'm seeing it too.

Richard Carrier - best get screencapping, old chum, cos your Atheism Plus What vid now suddenly stands at around 6000 likes with no dislikes. :lol:

#19058

Dick Strawkins wrote:Laurie Penny, a rather well known English (champagne) social justice warrior, wrote a piece in the New Statesman a couple of years ago about the word cunt.
Penney, for those who don't know of her, is the English equivalent of Amanda Marcotte.
If anyone in the UK is going to support Ophelia's campaign to have the use of 'cunt' punished by eternal damnation, then it's going to be Penney.
Yet read what she says.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/lauri ... -cunt-hint

It is, according to Germaine Greer, the one word in the English language that retains the power to shock. This week, after the third BBC newsman in two months â€“ this time the revered Jeremy Paxman â€“ dropped the c-bomb on live television, it appears that the world's best-respected broadcasting operation is in the grip of a collective and extremely specific form of Tourette's syndrome, whereby presenters can't help but slip the worst word of all into casual conversation. One is reminded of those playground horror stories of cursed words, infectious words that, once read or overheard, niggle away in the forefront of your brain until, like poison, you're forced to spit them out, with deadly consequences. But what â€“ ultimately â€“ is so terribly offensive about the word "cunt"?

The word shocks because what it signifies is still considered shocking. Francis Grose's 1785 A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue defines "cunt" quite simply as "a nasty name for a nasty thing". All sorts of people have a problem with 'cunt', even those who normally considerthemselves progressive and enlightened: last week, for example, I was invited to speak at a public meeting where I happened to use the word in reference to a member of the audience.

Horrified silence fell in this roomful of hardened activists, followed a few seconds later by nervously appreciative laughter. The incident later exploded on the internet, with some complaining that I had had no right to use such a provocative and shocking word at a meeting; that the word is too aggressive, too graphic. These, for context, are people who are currently cheerleading calls for a general strike and/or the overthrow of the government, but they still consider a young woman saying "cunt" in public a little too, too much.

What is it about that word? Why, in a world of 24-hour porn channels, a world with Rihanna's "Rude Boy" playing on the radio and junior pole-dancing kits sold in Tesco, is the word "cunt" still so shocking? It's a perfectly nice little word, a word with 800 years of history; a word used by Chaucer and by Shakespeare. It's the only word we have to describe the female genitalia that is neither mawkish, nor medical, nor a function of pornography. Semantically, it serves the same function as "dick" or "prick" â€“ a signifier for a sexual organ which can also be used as a descriptor or insult, a word that is not passive, but active, even aggressive.

There are no other truly empowering words for the female genitalia. 'Pussy' is nastily diminutive, as if every woman had a tame and purring pet between her legs, while the medical descriptor "vagina" refers only to a part of the organ, as if women's sexuality were nothing more than a wet hole, or "sheath" in the Latin. Cunt, meanwhile, is a word for the whole thing, a wholesome word, an earthy, dank and lusty word with the merest hint of horny threat. Cunt. It's fantastically difficult to pronounce without baring the teeth.

It is this kind of female sexuality â€“ active, adult female sexuality â€“ that still has the power to horrify even the most forward-thinking logophile. Despite occasional attempts by feminists such as Eve Ensler to "reclaim" the word cunt as the powerful, vital, visceral sexual signifier that it is, the taboo seems only to have become stronger. Media officials avoid it with the superstitious revulsion once reserved for evil-eye words, as if even pronouncing "cunt" might somehow conjure one into existence. The BBC wouldn't be in half so much trouble if James Naughtie had called Jeremy Hunt MP a "prick" or a "wanker" or a "cold-blooded Tory fucker".

For me, "cunt" is, and will always be, a word of power, whether it denotes my own genitals or any obstreperous comrades in the vicinity. The first time I ever used it, I was 12 years old, and being hounded by a group of sixth-form boys who just loved to corner me on the stairs and make hilarious sexy comments. One day, one of them decided it would be funny to pick me up by the waist and shake me. I spat out the words "put me down, you utter cunt", and the boy was so shocked that he dropped me instantly.

Ever since then, "cunt" has been a cherished part of my lexical armour. I use it liberally: in conversation, in the bedroom, and in debates. I only wish I could hear more women saying it, more of us reclaiming "cunt" as a word of sexual potency and common discourse rather than a dirty, forbidden word. If the BBC continues its oily pattern of vulgar logorrhoea, I'd like to hear Julia Bradbury saying it on Countryfile. I'd like to hear Kirsty Young saying it on Desert Island Discs.

Men have so many words that they can use to hint at their own sexual power, but we have just the one, and it's still the worst word you can say on the telly. Let's all get over ourselves about "cunt". Let's use it and love it.

hate to admit it, but I agree with Laurie Penny here

#19059

d4m10n wrote:he blurred out Aminaâ€™s nipples, which is an accommodation in and of itself, indeed, a sort of capitulation to the whims of the mullahs and priests who tell us that women must be covered even when they would choose otherwise. When nudity is an inherent part of the protest act, he who blurs it out stands with the anti-protestors.

hate to admit it, but I agree with Damion here

#19060

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Gefan wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:
cunt wrote:Extremely NSFW.

http://www.gaytube.com/media/325922/The ... _whimpers/

What the fuckety fuck fuck fuck is going on? :o
Well, if your reaction was anything like mine your eyeballs have probably leapt out of their sockets and are now cowering under the fridge and refusing to come out.
Trying to coax them out whilst in mid-seizure was no easy matter either.
It was very difficult to masturbate to.
I wonder if we could allow The Amazing Atheist a greater role in atheism other than as a sex toy.

I'd heard he'd done something stupid like this before but I've never been interested in searching for it.
Thanks a bunch :naughty:

apparently once his banana video was made public, he said fuck it and continued to make his masochistic sex videos. I do have to give him credit for not being ashamed of his kink, even though I do wish I had not clicked that link and watched the video.

#19061

Tigzy wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Something strange is happening on YouTube today. All the dislikes have disappeared off every video...Is anybody else seeing this or is it just my end?
Not just you - I'm seeing it too.

Richard Carrier - best get screencapping, old chum, cos your Atheism Plus What vid now suddenly stands at around 6000 likes with no dislikes. :lol:

Aw crap, I was proud of my dislikes.

[youtube]isVxkUkvsf8[/youtube]

#19062

lonesagi wrote:
Steersman wrote: While I think he was a little wide of the mark or overly vague as I donâ€™t think he gave much detail about what he thought were the supposed causal connections between â€œintrinsic identityâ€ and the â€œshaping of concernsâ€, I think it quite credibly highlighted some decidedly problematic implications in Stephanieâ€™s phrasing.
Steersman, compared to you everyone is vague.[1] Not everyone has your mad citation skills.[2]

[1] viewtopic.php?p=73673#p73673
[2] viewtopic.php?p=74963#p74963

I wish I could say as much and in as few words â€“ and as amusingly even Iâ€™m one of the targets. :-)

Although on the basis that one picture equals one thousand words one might argue that youâ€™re â€œprivilegingâ€ the visual and the gestalt at the expense of the aural and the linear â€¦.

But the citations are, I think, frequently rather necessary as the questions and issues are frequently rather convoluted and intricate, and that any detailed or questionable argument should preferably be buttressed by some supporting facts and figures. Reminds me of something from Steven Pinkerâ€™s The Blank Slate â€“ highly recommended â€“ which, somewhat depressingly, has some 40 pages of notes and references. Specifically, he had criticized the book Computer Power and Human Reason â€“ â€œa critique of artificial intelligence and computer models of cognitionâ€ â€“ as being â€œshort on argument and long on sactimonyâ€ (pg 105) â€“ something that citations tend to preclude - or at least minimize.

#19063

sacha wrote: I wonder if we could allow The Amazing Atheist a greater role in atheism other than as a sex toy.

I'd heard he'd done something stupid like this before but I've never been interested in searching for it.
Thanks a bunch :naughty:

apparently once his banana video was made public, he said fuck it and continued to make his masochistic sex videos. I do have to give him credit for not being ashamed of his kink, even though I do wish I had not clicked that link and watched the video.[/quote]

As I'm not Ophelia Benson or any of those anti-sex feminists (even if I think people overrate sex as a goal in their lives), I'm not judging TAA by his kinks. If he likes to shove bananas or whatever, all power to him.

Yeah, he's not generally attractive to me, so I'm passing his videos as wanking material, but that's me. I fully believe people should record sex tapes and share them if that's what they like. And the fact that his sex tape was made public without his consent and he didn't went all Atheism Plus over it (even if he had all the right to do so, morally and legally) actually made me respect him, even if I don't like most of his videos.

#19064

Southern wrote:
sacha wrote: I wonder if we could allow The Amazing Atheist a greater role in atheism other than as a sex toy.

I'd heard he'd done something stupid like this before but I've never been interested in searching for it.
Thanks a bunch :naughty:
apparently once his banana video was made public, he said fuck it and continued to make his masochistic sex videos. I do have to give him credit for not being ashamed of his kink, even though I do wish I had not clicked that link and watched the video.

As I'm not Ophelia Benson or any of those anti-sex feminists (even if I think people overrate sex as a goal in their lives), I'm not judging TAA by his kinks. If he likes to shove bananas or whatever, all power to him.
[/quote]

I judge it to be really funny but apart from that, yeah, I don't care.

I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.

#19065

Southern wrote:
sacha wrote: I fully believe people should record sex tapes and share them if that's what they like. And the fact that his sex tape was made public without his consent and he didn't went all Atheism Plus over it (even if he had all the right to do so, morally and legally) actually made me respect him, even if I don't like most of his videos.

I don't care for many of his videos either, however, I quite like this one:

[youtube]4JA4EPRbWhQ[/youtube]

#19066

okay quote fail from both Southern and myself. *sigh*

#19067

cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.

He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it

#19068

sacha wrote:
cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.
He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it

I guess, but it's basic internet savvy to know that none of those other options would have actually worked. Maybe i'm just being cynical.

#19069

Dick Strawkins wrote:
From http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2013/04/pe ... d-vac.html

Where have i seen that artwork before (not the muppet - the PZ-looking guy)?

#19070

cunt wrote:
sacha wrote:
cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.
He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it
I guess, but it's basic internet savvy to know that none of those other options would have actually worked. Maybe i'm just being cynical.

A lot of people on the internet don't have basic internet savvy.

#19071

SkepticalCat wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
From http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2013/04/pe ... d-vac.html

Where have i seen that artwork before (not the muppet - the PZ-looking guy)?

It's linked to a previous cartoon that PZ featured a few years back.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009 ... verlastin/

#19072

AbsurdWalls wrote: A lot of people on the internet don't have basic internet savvy.

So what?

#19073

AbsurdWalls wrote:
cunt wrote:
sacha wrote:
cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.
He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it
I guess, but it's basic internet savvy to know that none of those other options would have actually worked. Maybe i'm just being cynical.
A lot of people on the internet don't have basic internet savvy.

no, I think even if one knew that distancing oneself from the banana video would not work, they would still try, few people have the courage to admit they enjoy whatever kink they are into. It is far more likely someone internet savvy would publicly regret, and condemn the behaviour.

just look at the politicians

#19074

First of all there's a big fucking difference between an elected politician and a fat loudmouth who rants on youtube for click monies. Second, distancing hardly ever works for the politicians.

Proving that most of them are even dumber than the fat loudmouth who rants on youtube.

#19075

cunt wrote:
sacha wrote:
cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.
He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it
I guess, but it's basic internet savvy to know that none of those other options would have actually worked. Maybe i'm just being cynical.

You're probably right about that, but can you imagine what pain and misery and non-stop harrassment it would be if it was one of our friends at FTB or Skepchicks or Atheism Plus in his place?

The "Laden/Svan sex tape" caused enough suffering for our poor Stephie, and it was just a silly gif of a dog humping a cow. Can you imagine if a video of her actually humping someone leaked? It would be considered rape and the SJW crowd would be calling for legislation change to take down porntube sites in name of decency and humanity, I'm sure.

#19076

cunt wrote:
AbsurdWalls wrote: A lot of people on the internet don't have basic internet savvy.
So what?

So those who have it deserve some credit.

#19077

cunt wrote:
Southern wrote:
sacha wrote: I wonder if we could allow The Amazing Atheist a greater role in atheism other than as a sex toy.

I'd heard he'd done something stupid like this before but I've never been interested in searching for it.
Thanks a bunch :naughty:
apparently once his banana video was made public, he said fuck it and continued to make his masochistic sex videos. I do have to give him credit for not being ashamed of his kink, even though I do wish I had not clicked that link and watched the video.
As I'm not Ophelia Benson or any of those anti-sex feminists (even if I think people overrate sex as a goal in their lives), I'm not judging TAA by his kinks. If he likes to shove bananas or whatever, all power to him.

I judge it to be really funny but apart from that, yeah, I don't care.

I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.

You mean it wasn't a sly and devastating, if somewhat belated, rejoinder to Ray Comfort's legendary "Behold, the atheist's nightmare" video?
Sort of a; "Here's what I think of your banana, plus here's something to really give everyone nightmares" kind of strategy.

#19078

cunt wrote:First of all there's a big fucking difference between an elected politician and a fat loudmouth who rants on youtube for click monies. Second, distancing hardly ever works for the politicians.

Proving that most of them are even dumber than the fat loudmouth who rants on youtube.

I agree with all of that

#19079

Dave wrote:
cunt wrote:
AbsurdWalls wrote: A lot of people on the internet don't have basic internet savvy.
So what?
So those who have it deserve some credit.

He's smarter than a dog, pig or other barnyard animal. <-- appropriate amount of credit.

#19080

sacha wrote:
cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.
He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it

I'll throw in with that, haven't seen it, though know of it, watching it is not my cup of tea, but my position on it is so the fuck what. It's not like there's a video of him sticking bananas in his ass, whilst he was publically moralising about, not sticking bananas in your ass. (Xxxtina take notes, your dissonance is strong). If that was the case, it would be "go to town time". It isn't my business what way people like to get themselves off, unless, it directly harms me, or others. (Note for the SJW's here, who aren't able to parse, there is a world of difference in direct harm and shrodinger's harm, this is a huge part of the problem with you lot). In fact i celebrate him sticking bananas in his ass, as part of the wonderful diversity and absurdity that is the human species. We are all nuts.

#19081

Gefan wrote: You mean it wasn't a sly and devastating, if somewhat belated, rejoinder to Ray Comfort's legendary "Behold, the atheist's nightmare" video?
Sort of a; "Here's what I think of your banana, plus here's something to really give everyone nightmares" kind of strategy.

Instantly disproving the notion of a kind and loving god.

#19082

cunt wrote:
Gefan wrote: You mean it wasn't a sly and devastating, if somewhat belated, rejoinder to Ray Comfort's legendary "Behold, the atheist's nightmare" video?
Sort of a; "Here's what I think of your banana, plus here's something to really give everyone nightmares" kind of strategy.
Instantly disproving the notion of a kind and loving god.

The ending of Mass Effect 3 instantly disproves the notion of a kind and loving god.

#19083

So FfTB added some shitty new blog, which is "proudly feminist and atheist", so there's some unexplored terrain. I got like halfway through the introductory post before my eyes just glazed over. Read one, read them all.

#19084

Za-zen wrote:
sacha wrote:
cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.
He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it
I'll throw in with that, haven't seen it, though know of it, watching it is not my cup of tea, but my position on it is so the fuck what. It's not like there's a video of him sticking bananas in his ass, whilst he was publically moralising about, not sticking bananas in your ass. (Xxxtina take notes, your dissonance is strong). If that was the case, it would be "go to town time". It isn't my business what way people like to get themselves off, unless, it directly harms me, or others. (Note for the SJW's here, who aren't able to parse, there is a world of difference in direct harm and shrodinger's harm, this is a huge part of the problem with you lot). In fact i celebrate him sticking bananas in his ass, as part of the wonderful diversity and absurdity that is the human species. We are all nuts.

Apart from those of us who are bananas, apparently.

#19085

Tony Parsehole wrote:
cunt wrote:
Gefan wrote: You mean it wasn't a sly and devastating, if somewhat belated, rejoinder to Ray Comfort's legendary "Behold, the atheist's nightmare" video?
Sort of a; "Here's what I think of your banana, plus here's something to really give everyone nightmares" kind of strategy.
Instantly disproving the notion of a kind and loving god.
The ending of Mass Effect 3 instantly disproves the notion of a kind and loving god.

Worse than the ending of battlestar galactica?

#19086

Percentage wrote:So FfTB added some shitty new blog, which is "proudly feminist and atheist", so there's some unexplored terrain. I got like halfway through the introductory post before my eyes just glazed over. Read one, read them all.

Author of a self-published book. I imagine a lot of work goes into writing a book (well, I've seen how much work it takes from friends of mine who have written books, and I have written a book of sorts myself), I don't understand why you would go through all of that without a publisher behind you. My impression was that it's not even that difficult to get a book published (or maybe the person I know who did it got very lucky), and it makes a huge difference to how seriously people take your work.

I suppose I would have very different opinions if it was a music album or a film rather than a book. Might be something to do with the idea that the publisher's seal lends a degree of credibility to a book.

#19087

Aneris wrote:
Steersman wrote: <snip>
I think you sort of answered your own question: to cut the legs out from under those â€œwild assumptionsâ€ used to demonize others and feed their own narratives.
<snip>
â€¦.
But you know my pet theory about Pharyngula. They are people who want to be right, and want to show off their knowledge. â€¦. Someone set that idea, and others have picked it up since then, and yet others disagreed and continue to disagree. Because it is arbitrary and a game, I don't really see how this can be resolved. Nobody will change their mind about the issue, because, in my opinion, there is no issue. It's a game.

Thereâ€™s probably a substantial amount of justification for that argument â€“ sort of a variation on â€œtransactional analysisâ€, not that I know much about that particular psychological school of thought. But I sort of think it also has some similarities to The Lord of the Flies or â€œkiller beesâ€ where a group psychology becomes pathological. Reminds me of something someone here, I think, said about having gone to a school characterized by a whole bunch of â€œmean guys and girlsâ€ in the context of some discussion on â€œrape cultureâ€ (canâ€™t find the links and discussions at the moment). Reminds me also of something I ran across recently on AtheismPlus:

wind wrote:What a strange juxtaposition of ideas this thread has turned into on this last page.
I still insist that hiveminds are powerful and useful and unavoidable. Anyone who tries to use hivemind as a slur against A+ is either being dishonest, or doesn't understand group/human psychology. The rapid natural selection of good ideas, insights, and thoughts within a hivemind is not a joke or drinking game. It's a real thing that happens, and it's been happening ever since the invention of the printing press, at least.

With which I largely agree â€“ that â€œhivemindâ€ is, I think, quite a credible concept and a phenomenon that qualifies as â€œemergentâ€, something I discussed in some detail here where I provided an analogous example of that in the synchronization of 32 metronomes â€“ kind of a neat demonstration of a quite plausible basis for that concept.

Aneris wrote:
Steersman wrote:Do note also, for extra lolz, the equating of the â€œtheoryâ€ of â€œsplash damageâ€ with that of evolution and speciation.
I do get the idea, but equating it with TOE is nonsense of course.

A reasonable idea, at least in one sense, as there is, I think, some justification for that process in identifying with the group that one shares some salient physiological attributes with â€“ skin colour, genitalia, defining behavioural patterns, etc. Largely a consequence, I think, of the action of mirror neurons, a conjecture for which there seems to be some justification. And which is, in turn, probably a significant causal factor in the development of hiveminds - or reasonable facsimiles thereof.

But what I object more to is the suggestion that that â€œsplash damageâ€ necessarily follows. Far more credible, I think, to argue that humans, adults anyway and at least ideally, can use reason to decide whether that group identification is something they want to subscribe to, or whether the implied criticism of the individual targeted with the insult is credible or not. But, unfortunately for many, it seems that that identification is virtually automatic if not "autonomic" and visceral â€“ frequently rather difficult to put the brakes on those responses.

Reminds me of a video that Andrew posted here awhile back of the routines of a black comedian living and working in London. One snippet had him saying that anytime he heard a news report of some murder or robbery he frequently responded by thinking, in effect, â€œplease god; donâ€™t let it be a black manâ€ â€“ the actions of one supposedly reflecting badly on all who share that attribute.

Aneris wrote:However, there is also an issue Pinker called "euphemism treadmill" which you see with words like idiot, retard, moron. Each of them was a clinical description but was then used as an insult.

From his The Language Instinct? Seems to me that process is largely a consequence of not really understanding the nature of insults and how they work â€“ rather difficult to get off the treadmill if one doesnâ€™t realize that that is where one is at. Reminds me of a joke based on two statements on opposite sides of a small piece of paper. On one side is written: â€œHow do you keep a [favorite ethnic scapegoat] occupied for hours? (over).â€ And on the other side is written: â€œHow do you keep a [favorite ethnic scapegoat] occupied for hours? (over).â€ â€¦.

#19088

Dick Strawkins wrote:
Submariner wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
Ever since someone here called him 'Cunt Vacula', that's all I hear in my head whenever I read his name :(

One. One misandric feminist. Two. Two misandric feminists. Ha, ha, ha.
From http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2013/04/pe ... d-vac.html

Porn 'stache?

#19089

Percentage wrote:So FfTB added some shitty new blog, which is "proudly feminist and atheist", so there's some unexplored terrain. I got like halfway through the introductory post before my eyes just glazed over. Read one, read them all.

Jeebus she is going to be a treat:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynistin ... 25x300.jpg

From her introductory post:

I am indeed amazed at the tremendous opportunity provided by free blogs and other social networks that make communication and sharing opinions just a click away, right at our fingertips!

Yes, the Internet is truly an amazing new phenomenon.

I also moonlight as a plus size model. Once in a while, I share my interest in plus size modeling and my campaign for better representation of plus size women in the beauty and fashion industry, with some pictures of me on the runway (mostly in my dreams) but I do have some nice photoshoots to share.

Can't wait.

One great advantage of checking out my page is that you get to read some of my beautiful poems for free! Yes, you can add â€˜Poetâ€™ to my endless talents

For free.

I love turning emotions into words that rhymes and I share some of my poems on my blog, all copyrighted! My collection of poems will be published towards the end of the year; I hope it makes it into a top ten Xmas gift!

It is certain.

You can also join my YouTube channel where I sometimes pose before my laptop camera to make some very salient points. My YouTube channel is also named YEMMYnisting and I go by the username Sexyyemmy, please donâ€™t ask me why! Letâ€™s just say I am sexy and I know it.

Clap your hands.

Another coup for FTB. Truly THE place to blahg.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynistin ... -my-world/
http://www.freezepage.com/1367527913JGPFFROAKX

#19090

Apples wrote:
Percentage wrote:So FfTB added some shitty new blog, which is "proudly feminist and atheist", so there's some unexplored terrain. I got like halfway through the introductory post before my eyes just glazed over. Read one, read them all.
Jeebus she is going to be a treat:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynistin ... 25x300.jpg

From her introductory post:
I am indeed amazed at the tremendous opportunity provided by free blogs and other social networks that make communication and sharing opinions just a click away, right at our fingertips!
Yes, the Internet is truly an amazing new phenomenon.

I also moonlight as a plus size model. Once in a while, I share my interest in plus size modeling and my campaign for better representation of plus size women in the beauty and fashion industry, with some pictures of me on the runway (mostly in my dreams) but I do have some nice photoshoots to share.
Can't wait.

One great advantage of checking out my page is that you get to read some of my beautiful poems for free! Yes, you can add â€˜Poetâ€™ to my endless talents
For free.

I love turning emotions into words that rhymes and I share some of my poems on my blog, all copyrighted! My collection of poems will be published towards the end of the year; I hope it makes it into a top ten Xmas gift!
It is certain.

You can also join my YouTube channel where I sometimes pose before my laptop camera to make some very salient points. My YouTube channel is also named YEMMYnisting and I go by the username Sexyyemmy, please donâ€™t ask me why! Letâ€™s just say I am sexy and I know it.
Clap your hands.

Another coup for FTB. Truly THE place to blahg.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynistin ... -my-world/
http://www.freezepage.com/1367527913JGPFFROAKX

That post was filled with win.

#19091

cunt wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
cunt wrote:
Gefan wrote: You mean it wasn't a sly and devastating, if somewhat belated, rejoinder to Ray Comfort's legendary "Behold, the atheist's nightmare" video?
Sort of a; "Here's what I think of your banana, plus here's something to really give everyone nightmares" kind of strategy.
Instantly disproving the notion of a kind and loving god.
The ending of Mass Effect 3 instantly disproves the notion of a kind and loving god.
Worse than the ending of battlestar galactica?

I don't know the ending to that but the ending to Mass Effect 3 was made so much worse by how mind blowingly awesome the entire trilogy was. You were expecting this amazing ending, complete with closure and a chance to see how all those intricate in-game decisions affected the outcome and what happened was.....Well, it was all a bit shit really.
A veritable fart in the bath.

#19092

I would definitely accept a tit-wank off the new FTB blogger.

#19093

Tigzy wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Something strange is happening on YouTube today. All the dislikes have disappeared off every video...Is anybody else seeing this or is it just my end?
Not just you - I'm seeing it too.

Richard Carrier - best get screencapping, old chum, cos your Atheism Plus What vid now suddenly stands at around 6000 likes with no dislikes. :lol:

There's some sort of glitch that makes all the dislikes count as likes for a while. For example, just as a test, I loaded up and it showed as having 1.2 million likes for maybe 10-20 seconds, then it updated somehow and it got back to 200k likes and 1 million dislikes (and all was well with the world again).

However, it seems some videos doesn't update, and the votes stay mixed up, only counting as likes. Carriers A+ video is one of them it seems, at least for me.

#19094

Za-zen wrote:
sacha wrote:
cunt wrote:
I think people give him way too much credit for confronting the banana thing though. There wasn't exactly a load of other options.
He could have made excuses, said it was a one off, or that he regrets it, or that the chick who filmed it blackmailed him, or whatever.

I give him credit for saying yeah, I did it, I liked it, and I'm not ashamed of it
I'll throw in with that, haven't seen it, though know of it, watching it is not my cup of tea, but my position on it is so the fuck what. It's not like there's a video of him sticking bananas in his ass, whilst he was publically moralising about, not sticking bananas in your ass. (Xxxtina take notes, your dissonance is strong). If that was the case, it would be "go to town time". It isn't my business what way people like to get themselves off, unless, it directly harms me, or others. (Note for the SJW's here, who aren't able to parse, there is a world of difference in direct harm and shrodinger's harm, this is a huge part of the problem with you lot). In fact i celebrate him sticking bananas in his ass, as part of the wonderful diversity and absurdity that is the human species. We are all nuts.

This is my point. I did not see the banana video either, and I have no desire to watch, as it certainly would not turn me on, or interest me, however, I give him credit for his reaction to the publicity.

#19095

cunt wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
cunt wrote:
Gefan wrote: You mean it wasn't a sly and devastating, if somewhat belated, rejoinder to Ray Comfort's legendary "Behold, the atheist's nightmare" video?
Sort of a; "Here's what I think of your banana, plus here's something to really give everyone nightmares" kind of strategy.
Instantly disproving the notion of a kind and loving god.
The ending of Mass Effect 3 instantly disproves the notion of a kind and loving god.
Worse than the ending of battlestar galactica?

ugh! I wish I had never seen the final episode. Complete shite

#19096

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:
cunt wrote:Extremely NSFW.

http://www.gaytube.com/media/325922/The ... _whimpers/

What the fuckety fuck fuck fuck is going on? :o
Yeah, I was gonna ask too. This is some weird fucked up shit (only watched the first 15 seconds. I promise!)

What I don't get is, if it hurts so much, why does he keep fucking doing it?

#19097

Is Battlestar Galactica any good then? Should I rush out and buy it?
A bloke once told me it was worthy but he was one of those people who practically lived in a second-hand computer game shop, wearing a once white shirt with yellow-grey stains around the armpits and collar, crumbs on his chin and lips and a smell of arse-vinegar about him so overpowering that it makes birds fall out of the sky so I never followed it up.

#19098

Cunning Punt wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:
cunt wrote:Extremely NSFW.

http://www.gaytube.com/media/325922/The ... _whimpers/

What the fuckety fuck fuck fuck is going on? :o
Yeah, I was gonna ask too. This is some weird fucked up shit (only watched the first 15 seconds. I promise!)
What I don't get is, if it hurts so much, why does he keep fucking doing it?

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#19099

Tony Parsehole wrote:Is Battlestar Galactica any good then? Should I rush out and buy it?
A bloke once told me it was worthy but he was one of those people who practically lived in a second-hand computer game shop, wearing a once white shirt with yellow-grey stains around the armpits and collar, crumbs on his chin and lips and a smell of arse-vinegar about him so overpowering that it makes birds fall out of the sky so I never followed it up.

fantastic series. Don't bother with the final episode of the last season

#19100

Tony Parsehole wrote:Is Battlestar Galactica any good then? Should I rush out and buy it?
A bloke once told me it was worthy but he was one of those people who practically lived in a second-hand computer game shop, wearing a once white shirt with yellow-grey stains around the armpits and collar, crumbs on his chin and lips and a smell of arse-vinegar about him so overpowering that it makes birds fall out of the sky so I never followed it up.

It's actually really good for the first few seasons but descends into incredibly complex bullshit and finally disappears up it's own arse.

#19101

Musical interlude, for those not interested in the banana video

[youtube]TH8vW0SXu8[/youtube]

#19102

cunt wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Is Battlestar Galactica any good then? Should I rush out and buy it?
A bloke once told me it was worthy but he was one of those people who practically lived in a second-hand computer game shop, wearing a once white shirt with yellow-grey stains around the armpits and collar, crumbs on his chin and lips and a smell of arse-vinegar about him so overpowering that it makes birds fall out of the sky so I never followed it up.
It's actually really good for the first few seasons but descends into incredibly complex bullshit and finally disappears up it's own arse.

Like LOST then?

#19103

WELCHHHHHH!

it's bloody hot! oppressive heat. fucking 89F (nearly 32C) by the ocean in SF!

what the fuck? Take back your heat! I want my cool fog!

#19104

sacha wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Is Battlestar Galactica any good then? Should I rush out and buy it?
A bloke once told me it was worthy but he was one of those people who practically lived in a second-hand computer game shop, wearing a once white shirt with yellow-grey stains around the armpits and collar, crumbs on his chin and lips and a smell of arse-vinegar about him so overpowering that it makes birds fall out of the sky so I never followed it up.
fantastic series. Don't bother with the final episode of the last season

I'll give it a watch then. Cheers.

#19105

Submariner wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:Condemning all feminists is only going to alienate many people who could be your ally.
Just don't expect a cookie for it Justin.

I think their opposition to him is due to the name. It sounds and spells very similar to 'Justicar'.

Well, that and his harassing M.O.

(Moustache of Oppression)

M.O. = the anti O.M.