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ReneeHendricks wrote:Grrr. Having a Twitter back-and-forth with Oolon. Clearly I'm a masochist. Oh, and his whole 5 months of Twitter experience clearly trumps my 5 *years*. Fucking idiot.
Renee, you know what happens when you argue with idiots...they drag you down to their level, then club you to death with superior experience.

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Watching Welch's replies as he gradually syncs up with thread time is always fun.

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Zenspace wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:
For what it's worth the big lightbulb moment for me, the big realization that I was on the "wrong side", was when I went to some other anti-SJW forums (/AntiSRS and/SRSSucks on Reddit in particular) and found more intelligent conversation on these issues than you'd ever find at FTB. And it's the same way here, all the juvenile antics aside.
I came for the juvenile antics, but stayed for the intelligent conversation.
I just visit to read the articles. :whistle:
i'm here for the granny porn.

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welch wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:He's a very, very stupid person. My favorite is the time he accused Welch of launching a Denial of Service attack on his blog via the advanced hacking technique of pasting a large amount of text into a comments field.
He probably once copy/pasted all of Finnegan's Wake into a "What's Your Favorite Book" form field, crashed his browser, and thought the InnerTubes collapsed.
Yeah. His "commetariat" tried to come over to my site and start shit.

They then learned that there is a WORLD of difference between the kind of shit SJW's can dish out, and the kind of shit a bunch of sysadmin types with a healthy dollop of ex-military can dish out.

it did not go...well...for them.
link? I need a laugh.

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Skeeve wrote:Another reason I think Amanda Marcotte is an idiot:
I’ve been traveling, but in our new age of fancy mobile devices, I have been able to somewhat keep up with the reaction to the feminist reaction to the force-a-kiss Audi ad. It is, of course, entirely predictable. If I may paraphrase every dudely tantrum: “But consent is HAAAAAAARRRRRRD. Your insistence that men have basic good manners/read women’s body language/ask if you’re not sure to make sure sexual attention is wanted is scary and weird and too HAAAAAARRRRRD. Knowing the basic rules of social conduct is pretty much IMMMMMPOOOOOSSSSIBLE, and thus cannot be a basic minimum in order to flirt/kiss/we’re-not-saying-it-but-it’s-implicated-so-okay-penetrate a woman. Cuz HAAAAAAARRRRRD. Wah.”
From Pandagon on Raw Story.

Why do all these shepchick/radfem types write like they're 13 year old schoolgirls?
Because that is level their minds 'matured' at? :think:

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jimthepleb wrote:
Gefan wrote:Has anyone watched HBO's "Mea Maxima Culpa" yet?
It's a new documentary about the Catholic Church's ongoing re-interpretation of the "suffer the little children" passage in scripture.
I was watching a preview, and one of the priests who had tried to do the right thing and inform secular law enforcement was saying how he was told; "We don't turn in our priests".
He then asked a question that had never occurred to me and that, when I heard it, I found utterly chilling; "What would have happened had there been a string of murders?"
Now that it's brought up, would any of us be surprised if that is indeed the next thing that comes to light?

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled mockery.
This is the document, enforced by ratzinger whilst he was head of the inquisition (yes that inquisition) that kept paedophilia under wraps. It was in force until 2001 when an even more weaselly document was produced. Unfortunately this is a topic I had a fair amount of experience with in my teens (I was not personally abused) when my family were threatened with excommunication. http://www.vatican.va/resources/resourc ... 62_en.html
If this is the document which Ratzinger signed while in Munich threatening any who contacted law enforcement with excommunication, I'm familiar with it.
I don't know anything about German law, but in the US that would (at minimum) constitute obstruction of justice. If Ratzinger's ecclesiastical jurisdiction at the time extended to the US (and I believe it did), then it is only the utter spinelessness of American authorities that would allow this vile little man to travel US territory without being slapped into handcuffs the minute he stepped off the plane.

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Angry_Drunk wrote:Watching Welch's replies as he gradually syncs up with thread time is always fun.
Yeah, between one refresh and the next, it's suddenly a Wall o' Welch. I'll bet he talks fast enough to scare an auctioneer.

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Al Stefanelli wrote:
It's not the hat, but the person under it. Lmfao...

http://www.alstefanelli.com/Yeehaw.jpg

Nice hat.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:Grrr. Having a Twitter back-and-forth with Oolon. Clearly I'm a masochist. Oh, and his whole 5 months of Twitter experience clearly trumps my 5 *years*. Fucking idiot.
Clearly. I live a much happier life since I learned not to waste my time engaging with assholes who will never change their minds or ways through constructive discourse.

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Zenspace wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:Grrr. Having a Twitter back-and-forth with Oolon. Clearly I'm a masochist. Oh, and his whole 5 months of Twitter experience clearly trumps my 5 *years*. Fucking idiot.
Clearly. I live a much happier life since I learned not to waste my time engaging with assholes who will never change their minds or ways through constructive discourse.
Yeah, I shouldn't have engaged him. The thing is, this little project of his will end up with people being suspended. And he's clearly too stupid to realize this.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:
Oh, and I still fail to see how purple is a "girl" color.
Agreed! I fucking love purple. Always has, ever since I was a little kid. But my favourite colour is cyan/turquoise (also a supposed "girl" colour).

Let the gay jokes fly!

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ERV wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
windy wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote: Yes, on the page where you can select dates for the url you've given, select the ones closest to a week or few weeks after they were first published so that you will get the full comment threads including the comments at the end where pz says comments are now closed, and the date will be after the comments are full, but before he got rid of all the comments.
PZ didn't "get rid of the comments", they went missing during the NatGeo switch and they failed to restore a lot of the threads for reasons unknown.
I'm not so sure I believe him about that. Maybe Abbie would know.

Abbie, is it true that PZ's lost comments from older scienceblogs posts cannot be recovered, or is there a setting he could use to bring them back? PZ claims to not know how to recover the ones from before scienceblogs went through their formatting change.
All I know is, all of mine crossed over just fine (including the thousands-long comment threads), everyone elses crossed over just fine (Orac, Tara, Ethan, their 'big' controversy posts). It was only PZs that didnt transfer. Sometimes. For some unknown reason.

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Hmmm. Now I'm even more thinking he's just plain lying again. No proof, but with him, lying is often the explanation to things he says or does, so I'm not feeling the benefit of the doubt I'd give most people.

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The things the slymepitters want are 1) our silence and 2) to benefit by being associated with us. For me, this whole thing has been about wanting to talk about feminism, criticize bigotry, spread awareness of the horror of rape culture, and to disassociate ourselves from bigots so that women can feel safe joining us.

It’s not a “cease fire” they’re asking for, it’s an unconditional surrender.
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Presumptuous little shits, that’s them.

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LMU wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
windy wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote: Yes, on the page where you can select dates for the url you've given, select the ones closest to a week or few weeks after they were first published so that you will get the full comment threads including the comments at the end where pz says comments are now closed, and the date will be after the comments are full, but before he got rid of all the comments.
PZ didn't "get rid of the comments", they went missing during the NatGeo switch and they failed to restore a lot of the threads for reasons unknown.
I'm not so sure I believe him about that. Maybe Abbie would know.

Abbie, is it true that PZ's lost comments from older scienceblogs posts cannot be recovered, or is there a setting he could use to bring them back? PZ claims to not know how to recover the ones from before scienceblogs went through their formatting change.
I might be doing it wrong, but I tried to find archived versions of PZ's Always Name Names post ( http://web.archive.org/web/201211050413 ... ame-names/ ) and the archived versions only go back to July 2012 (more than a year after the post was made) and none of them have comments. Am I doing it wrong or does Wayback Machine not keep archives older than a certain amount?
The links they give often screw up, I'm finding. Go to the wayback's main page, and start from fresh, entering http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011 ... ame-names/ into the search box. Then it should give you a calendar (year changes are at the top somewhere), and then try to find one that's between 2011/07/09 to about 2011/08/09 (it'll be after the comment thread was complete, but before PZ 'lost' them). Do the same for all three EG threads.

I'll put up a copy that I've made from the wayback onto my own site along with the slimepit archives. I was going to just give people the wayback's links, but they keep not working right most of the time.

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Gefan wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote: That's what their dream is. Superiority over, and oppression of, men. Not equality. Most radfems, like the ones who run the women-only Michigan festival, are actually against the Equal Rights Amendment because they WANT to discriminate against men, but the ERA would not let them if it were to be passed into law. They don't really want equality. They want extra rights and perks for women only. They see themselves in a constant state of 'deserving' and forever in need of compensation.
That's a great summary of what I've had to gloomily conclude over the years.
I seem to remember an exchange (possibly involving Marcotte) where someone pointed out that, under the proposed New Order, a woman who was merely annoyed with a man could ruin his life at a whim without consequence. The response was (more or less verbatim); "Well, then don't annoy women".
At best, this is not adult behavior. More likely, it's solipsism run amok.
If anyone remembers the exchange in question, please tell me if I'm misattributing it.
I don't remember it but it doesn't surprise me. What she said is no better than the "why the two black eyes" joke ("she didn't listen the first time"). It's absolutely ok by her if a woman falsely accuses a man of rape because she's annoyed, and he's locked up without fair trial. A rape conviction is fair punishment, not for raping, but for merely annoying a woman. Marcotte doesn't care if any or even most accusations turn out false. She IS the violent male stereotype that she fears. A page or two back, she jokes(?) about how the only reason she doesn't rape is that she's attractive enough to get enough willing sex.

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Jack wrote:Kickstarter relies on the goodwill of people to get projects off the ground. In my opinion she abused that goodwill so far. She may come up with something that's great but I won't be holding my breath. At best she stopped her project from being taken up by someone who would have at least done something by now. She has probably closed that door for them.
As far as I see it, the ones who potentially are getting scammed are feminists who wanted to pay for propaganda that they could use to strong-arm their toxic brand of feminism into the gaming community. If Sarkeesian screw them over, I'm going to feel soooo sorry for them.... :roll:

Frankly, I view Sarkeesian as a blessing in disguise. She's managed to become "the gaming feminist" in the media, while being completely shit at what she does. Her videos are bad, with factual errors, sloppy research, and arguments so bad that a 14 year old schoolboy can tear them apart. Hell, unlike Sarkeesian, that 14 yo boy has probably actually played the game that she's spewing shit over, and can see exactly how full of crap she is. She and her videos are brim full of the sort of feminism that makes people go "Gosh, I thought feminism was just about equality, not this sort of bat-shit crazy stuff".

On top of that, she's extremely close to becoming the most famous scammer in video-game history, while simultaniously taking a dump on the very popular Kickstarter site. If I wanted to inoculate a generation of gamers against toxic feminism, I couldn't have thought up a better way to do it.

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Zenspace wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:Grrr. Having a Twitter back-and-forth with Oolon. Clearly I'm a masochist. Oh, and his whole 5 months of Twitter experience clearly trumps my 5 *years*. Fucking idiot.
Clearly. I live a much happier life since I learned not to waste my time engaging with assholes who will never change their minds or ways through constructive discourse.
You do not negotiate with terrorists. I think Welsh, Mykeru et. al get that.

Others, not so much.

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welch wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
windy wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote: Yes, on the page where you can select dates for the url you've given, select the ones closest to a week or few weeks after they were first published so that you will get the full comment threads including the comments at the end where pz says comments are now closed, and the date will be after the comments are full, but before he got rid of all the comments.
PZ didn't "get rid of the comments", they went missing during the NatGeo switch and they failed to restore a lot of the threads for reasons unknown.
I'm not so sure I believe him about that. Maybe Abbie would know.

Abbie, is it true that PZ's lost comments from older scienceblogs posts cannot be recovered, or is there a setting he could use to bring them back? PZ claims to not know how to recover the ones from before scienceblogs went through their formatting change.
Given how really stupid PeeZus is about modern computing, i believe that.
Well, it is a possibility, but he played just as dumb back when him and Ed were the only ones getting extra ad clicks by having ads on their comment feeds and not just their article feeds. His credibility has such a bad track record, I'd have a hard time believing him if he told me snow was cold. He plays dumb about things a lot. It's just one of the weaselly things he does.

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Ape+lust wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:Watching Welch's replies as he gradually syncs up with thread time is always fun.
Yeah, between one refresh and the next, it's suddenly a Wall o' Welch. I'll bet he talks fast enough to scare an auctioneer.
Nah. You wear yourself out that way. But I can talk nonstop for about 8-10 hours before it starts to get old :-P

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:Grrr. Having a Twitter back-and-forth with Oolon. Clearly I'm a masochist. Oh, and his whole 5 months of Twitter experience clearly trumps my 5 *years*. Fucking idiot.
Clearly. I live a much happier life since I learned not to waste my time engaging with assholes who will never change their minds or ways through constructive discourse.
You do not negotiate with terrorists. I think Welsh, Mykeru et. al get that.

Others, not so much.
It's more of a "no point in talking to idiots" thing. Terrorists are at least a real problem.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:Grrr. Having a Twitter back-and-forth with Oolon. Clearly I'm a masochist. Oh, and his whole 5 months of Twitter experience clearly trumps my 5 *years*. Fucking idiot.
Clearly. I live a much happier life since I learned not to waste my time engaging with assholes who will never change their minds or ways through constructive discourse.
You do not negotiate with terrorists. I think Welsh, Mykeru et. al get that.

Others, not so much.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdpef ... o1_500.gif

I think plenty of us realize that.

We wouldn't be here otherwise.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:Grrr. Having a Twitter back-and-forth with Oolon. Clearly I'm a masochist. Oh, and his whole 5 months of Twitter experience clearly trumps my 5 *years*. Fucking idiot.
Clearly. I live a much happier life since I learned not to waste my time engaging with assholes who will never change their minds or ways through constructive discourse.
Yeah, I shouldn't have engaged him. The thing is, this little project of his will end up with people being suspended. And he's clearly too stupid to realize this.
I think you're falling prey to oolon's "play dumb" routine that he employed to great effect when posting here. I refuse to believe that the slimy shit doesn't realize that this bot (if by some rare miracle it gets widely used) will end in account suspensions. He's just playing stupid so when it doesn't happen he can bat his eyelashes and go "what, did little ol' me do that".

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acathode wrote:
Jack wrote:Kickstarter relies on the goodwill of people to get projects off the ground. In my opinion she abused that goodwill so far. She may come up with something that's great but I won't be holding my breath. At best she stopped her project from being taken up by someone who would have at least done something by now. She has probably closed that door for them.
As far as I see it, the ones who potentially are getting scammed are feminists who wanted to pay for propaganda that they could use to strong-arm their toxic brand of feminism into the gaming community. If Sarkeesian screw them over, I'm going to feel soooo sorry for them.... :roll:

Frankly, I view Sarkeesian as a blessing in disguise. She's managed to become "the gaming feminist" in the media, while being completely shit at what she does. Her videos are bad, with factual errors, sloppy research, and arguments so bad that a 14 year old schoolboy can tear them apart. Hell, unlike Sarkeesian, that 14 yo boy has probably actually played the game that she's spewing shit over, and can see exactly how full of crap she is. She and her videos are brim full of the sort of feminism that makes people go "Gosh, I thought feminism was just about equality, not this sort of bat-shit crazy stuff".

On top of that, she's extremely close to becoming the most famous scammer in video-game history, while simultaniously taking a dump on the very popular Kickstarter site. If I wanted to inoculate a generation of gamers against toxic feminism, I couldn't have thought up a better way to do it.
I don't agree with that. Her videos are pretty interesting and while sometimes get a bit preachy, they tend to avoid demonizing the people she is targeting. For example, her video about the Bechdel Test explicitly stated that trying to judge movies or their makers based on the test was a poor use. Instead, it should be used to look at Hollywood as a whole and the lack of important roles for women. It presented a point, argued it fairly and convincingly, and did a good job. I hope her video game series is equally as interesting.

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oolon wrote:I'll upload to github at some point - when its documented... For the distributed one you could generate a blocks.json end-point with something like ->
{ list_name: "A+ blocklist A", blocks: [{screen_name: xxyz, id: 1234, blocks: 3, reasons: [{"misogyny"}, {"transphobia"}, {"troll"}]}], []. [] ...}

Probably block bot v2 though ... Can then communicate by GET'ing each others end-point and an updated list.... Stores number of times someone has suggested the user is blocked and the reasons why. Could make some nice tag clouds out of who is being blocked and why :-)

There are lots of "watch" accounts out there like moronwatch and ones that follow transphobes etc... I'm sure they could fill lists pretty fast! Users could then sign up and decide what blocks they want to apply or look up a user to see how many reports they have.
Wow - awesome, oolon! If you succeed, sounds like you'll be able to defame random people as bigots on the internet almost automatically, based solely on whom they associate with or the fact that an A-plusser doesn't like them. Nothing really says social justice quite like a blacklist. Maybe PZ will give you an honorary Molly for this one -- oh, I forgot -- you're banned from Pharyngula for being a "poseur" who "pretends to be neutral while defending the indefensible."

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Apples wrote:
oolon wrote:I'll upload to github at some point - when its documented... For the distributed one you could generate a blocks.json end-point with something like ->
{ list_name: "A+ blocklist A", blocks: [{screen_name: xxyz, id: 1234, blocks: 3, reasons: [{"misogyny"}, {"transphobia"}, {"troll"}]}], []. [] ...}

Probably block bot v2 though ... Can then communicate by GET'ing each others end-point and an updated list.... Stores number of times someone has suggested the user is blocked and the reasons why. Could make some nice tag clouds out of who is being blocked and why :-)

There are lots of "watch" accounts out there like moronwatch and ones that follow transphobes etc... I'm sure they could fill lists pretty fast! Users could then sign up and decide what blocks they want to apply or look up a user to see how many reports they have.
Wow - awesome, oolon! If you succeed, sounds like you'll be able to defame random people as bigots on the internet almost automatically, based solely on whom they associate with or the fact that an A-plusser doesn't like them. Nothing really says social justice quite like a blacklist. Maybe PZ will give you an honorary Molly for this one -- oh, I forgot -- you're banned from Pharyngula for being a "poseur" who "pretends to be neutral while defending the indefensible."
Somehow I don't think he has heard of Ad Hominem. Although none of them seem to have any skeptical or critical thinking brain cells left, assuming they had any in the first place. When I saw PZ Phelp's on the TruePooka podcast I was surprised how he abandoned critical thought on a whim. All he did was assert which is no basis for a rational discussion. I found the whole podcast a complete waste of time because of his attitude and approach to the arguments presented.

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acathode wrote: On top of that, she's extremely close to becoming the most famous scammer in video-game history, while simultaniously taking a dump on the very popular Kickstarter site. If I wanted to inoculate a generation of gamers against toxic feminism, I couldn't have thought up a better way to do it.
To be fair though, somebody needed to take a huge dump on Kickstarter. Its a scammers wet dream (not saying Anita Sarkeesin is necessarily a scammer).

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Every time I read "Ron Paul" my brain automatically conjures up Rupaul.

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Ericb said (http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 991#p61991):
If PZ is a Dawkins wannabe then Laden is a PZ wannabe. How sad is that?
And LousyCanuck is a Laden wannabe. Now we're really talking sad.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:Every time I read "Ron Paul" my brain automatically conjures up Rupaul.
http://i.imgur.com/HC12Xja.jpg

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rocko2466 wrote:Wtf Laden.

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He's trolling everyone!

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:Every time I read "Ron Paul" my brain automatically conjures up Rupaul.
http://i.imgur.com/HC12Xja.jpg
Shit! Ok, it wasn't a visual thing before but now it is!

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Steersman wrote:Certainly sexism is a serious problem, but one might wonder whether it is greater in those men who think the indicated thoughts or in the author of the article for suggesting that all men think that way.
Well, some parts did resonate with me.

For example, one or two occasions when I had to pretend to be busy writing up action items after the meeting was over come to mind.

Never mind I had absolutely no idea what was said in the meeting, as I had spent the entire time with a raging boner and studiously avoiding looking at the woman in the room, who for some reason completely unknown to me was an object of desire.

Never mind that she was professionally dressed, skirt at knee level, and not exposing a single inch of cleavage, which was covered in a jacket so loose fitting one could not even determine the size of her tits.

Never mind she was wearing no makeup, and in fact her hair was a mess, as being late she had left the house with it wet and had come strait into the meeting.

Nope. I spent the entire fucking meeting lusting after her with a hard on that I could have used to lift weights twice my body mass with. Only saving grace was I happened to be not wearing a kilt on both occasions, otherwise I would have needed a new sporran each time.

Never mind I had to sit there till the erection eased off enough for me to be able to stand up without doing myself a permanent injury.

Might be hard for some females to understand this, but sometimes being male sucks boulders through a straw.

/rant
If you had been wearing one I might have suggested that maybe the sporran was made from a beaver pelt ….

However, since that was not the case one can only suggest that you had been “triggered” – rather shamelessly by that woman – by some combination of her attributes and your mental filters. Further evidence to support if not prove the argument that our genetics can drive us like clockwork. Apropos of which, while I will seriously question Michael Shermer’s argument that “40 to 50 percent of the variance among people in temperament, personality, and many political, economic, and social preferences are inherited”, the position, in effect, of Zvan and company that “gender is entirely a social construct” is so bogus as to suggest willful blindness and egregious dogma.

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birdterrifier wrote:
rocko2466 wrote:Wtf Laden.

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He's trolling everyone!
No, he's not. Greg Laden is actually that stupid.

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That peace treaty thread devolved into a discussion on whether the term "butt-hurt" is homophobic, with the obvious conclusion that it is. Caine said so.
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I, likewise, innocently associated ‘butthurt’ with the discomfort & embarrassment of falling on one’s arse in public… 8-/

*trudges off to clip another word from personal vocabulary*

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Gefan wrote:Has anyone watched HBO's "Mea Maxima Culpa" yet?
It's a new documentary about the Catholic Church's ongoing re-interpretation of the "suffer the little children" passage in scripture.
I was watching a preview, and one of the priests who had tried to do the right thing and inform secular law enforcement was saying how he was told; "We don't turn in our priests".
He then asked a question that had never occurred to me and that, when I heard it, I found utterly chilling; "What would have happened had there been a string of murders?"
Now that it's brought up, would any of us be surprised if that is indeed the next thing that comes to light?
It already has come to light in the Netherlands. There is strong evidence that between 1952 and 1954 in a Catholic institution for the mentally disabled 37 boys have been murdered by a male nurse and that this was covered up.

In other Catholic institutions boys were sometimes castrated to 'cure' them of their (real or perceived) homosexuality.

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/06/28/om- ... n-vijftig/ (in Dutch)

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Dick Strawkins wrote:I think I just won! :D

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I just heard an ear-splitting buzzer ringing, saw a bunch of flashing lights, and then my balls rolled out the bottom of my pants leg....what the fuck have you done??????

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cunt wrote:That peace treaty thread devolved into a discussion on whether the term "butt-hurt" is homophobic, with the obvious conclusion that it is. Caine said so.
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I, likewise, innocently associated ‘butthurt’ with the discomfort & embarrassment of falling on one’s arse in public… 8-/

*trudges off to clip another word from personal vocabulary*
He's just butthurt.

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I am curious as to what the possible consequences of making a threat over the internet.
For example; the threat abear received yesterday on the Thunderdome. If a complaint were made could Tethys get in trouble? If it appears the moderator is condoning the behavior would the blog be liable to be booted off their hosting service or worse?
If criminal or legal action is taken what jurisdiction would it involve?

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I think you just got rid of my headache with a good belly laugh, thanks!

"5000 ways to check your privilege" fucking lol.....

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I think you just got rid of my headache with a good belly laugh, thanks!

"5000 ways to check your privilege" fucking lol.....

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Jan Steen wrote:
Gefan wrote:Has anyone watched HBO's "Mea Maxima Culpa" yet?
It's a new documentary about the Catholic Church's ongoing re-interpretation of the "suffer the little children" passage in scripture.
I was watching a preview, and one of the priests who had tried to do the right thing and inform secular law enforcement was saying how he was told; "We don't turn in our priests".
He then asked a question that had never occurred to me and that, when I heard it, I found utterly chilling; "What would have happened had there been a string of murders?"
Now that it's brought up, would any of us be surprised if that is indeed the next thing that comes to light?
It already has come to light in the Netherlands. There is strong evidence that between 1952 and 1954 in a Catholic institution for the mentally disabled 37 boys have been murdered by a male nurse and that this was covered up.

In other Catholic institutions boys were sometimes castrated to 'cure' them of their (real or perceived) homosexuality.

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/06/28/om- ... n-vijftig/ (in Dutch)
Catholic nuns have also been implicated in stealing newborn babies in Spain and telling the mothers the babies had died:


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 03,00.html

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Jack wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:
Jack wrote:
You may want to look up what kickstarter is. It is a method of obtaining money up front in order to produce a promised product. It is becoming very popular and allows products or services that would otherwise not be made. She has not produced the product she received a substantial sum for several months after she got the money. Yet she's asking for more hence the comment made. Otherwise I agree, it is fine asking for support. In fact I encourage it. That wasn't the context however.

It does bother me and it may affect me. I and others I know are looking to do kickstarter projects and people like her give it a bad name.
I'm vaguely aware of what it is. One thing I don't understand - do you just get money sent to you? What happens if you don't do what you said you were? Anyway, from her website it sounds like she is still working on it. I would imagine there would be a big backlash if she doesn't do it, but it seems premature to judge her based on not having a big project done. Also, it appears all of her videos have a little thing at the end asking for donations, and the lego video was done well before the kickstarter idea.
What happens is contributions are made. Depending on the level of contribution you may get something more back (such as a character named after you in a video game) You do get money sent to you or whatever vehicle you have set up for the project. In fact any investor would want to know the skills of whoever is doing it, like any other business, and see clear progress being made. The people doing it would be expected to show results and reports as they go.

As far as I know, like any investment, there is no payback if nothing is produced. As long as investors are smart this should only happen for normal business failure reasons (there's been some spectacular failures) However she sold her idea on something tenuous and heavily promoted the Rad Fem thing, so of course people invested based on emotion rather than business sense. She had nothing to show and produced nothing. All she has to do is start showing mysogony in games, any of us could do that in 10 minutes if you take the Rad Fem line. Do a couple a week and she'd have done what she said she would do in no time. Then write up a report and off you go, easy. A few thousand would cover that if not less.

Kickstarter relies on the goodwill of people to get projects off the ground. In my opinion she abused that goodwill so far. She may come up with something that's great but I won't be holding my breath. At best she stopped her project from being taken up by someone who would have at least done something by now. She has probably closed that door for them.
Her first video is due to be released soon, at least that's what her page says. Prediction: She won't mention the way males are stereotyped, or just killed because someone had to die in that scene. Oh no, it'll be all about how female characters are over-sexualized, or stereotyped. Another equity feminist failing. If it kills a man it's fine, but Holy Jebus if a woman shows too much fucking cleavage.

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Submariner wrote: Her first video is due to be released soon, at least that's what her page says. Prediction: She won't mention the way males are stereotyped, or just killed because someone had to die in that scene. Oh no, it'll be all about how female characters are over-sexualized, or stereotyped. Another equity feminist failing. If it kills a man it's fine, but Holy Jebus if a woman shows too much fucking cleavage.
Good point. Reminds of this Penny Arcade comic, although I would replace people with men in the second panel since in most games the soldiers you mow down left and right are men:

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l61 ... sexism.jpg

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Meanwhile:

Ringleader in Amish beard-cutting attacks sentenced to 15 years:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le8389920/
Because:
The defendants were charged with a hate crime because prosecutors believe religious differences brought about the attacks.
Oh! I am certainly well informed now. See... intent matters. If the beards had been cut off because of a deeply offended sense of aesthetics it would have been different.

/pointless.snark.copied.from.the.baboon.playbook

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EdwardGemmer wrote:
acathode wrote:
Jack wrote:Kickstarter relies on the goodwill of people to get projects off the ground. In my opinion she abused that goodwill so far. She may come up with something that's great but I won't be holding my breath. At best she stopped her project from being taken up by someone who would have at least done something by now. She has probably closed that door for them.
As far as I see it, the ones who potentially are getting scammed are feminists who wanted to pay for propaganda that they could use to strong-arm their toxic brand of feminism into the gaming community. If Sarkeesian screw them over, I'm going to feel soooo sorry for them.... :roll:

Frankly, I view Sarkeesian as a blessing in disguise. She's managed to become "the gaming feminist" in the media, while being completely shit at what she does. Her videos are bad, with factual errors, sloppy research, and arguments so bad that a 14 year old schoolboy can tear them apart. Hell, unlike Sarkeesian, that 14 yo boy has probably actually played the game that she's spewing shit over, and can see exactly how full of crap she is. She and her videos are brim full of the sort of feminism that makes people go "Gosh, I thought feminism was just about equality, not this sort of bat-shit crazy stuff".

On top of that, she's extremely close to becoming the most famous scammer in video-game history, while simultaniously taking a dump on the very popular Kickstarter site. If I wanted to inoculate a generation of gamers against toxic feminism, I couldn't have thought up a better way to do it.
I don't agree with that. Her videos are pretty interesting and while sometimes get a bit preachy, they tend to avoid demonizing the people she is targeting. For example, her video about the Bechdel Test explicitly stated that trying to judge movies or their makers based on the test was a poor use. Instead, it should be used to look at Hollywood as a whole and the lack of important roles for women. It presented a point, argued it fairly and convincingly, and did a good job. I hope her video game series is equally as interesting.
Her videos are the rancid shit scraped from the sanitary tanks at overhaul after 6 yrs at sea. They are the absolute most banal, trite, and decidedly zeroth world issues imaginable.

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Submariner wrote:
Jack wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:
Jack wrote:
You may want to look up what kickstarter is. It is a method of obtaining money up front in order to produce a promised product. It is becoming very popular and allows products or services that would otherwise not be made. She has not produced the product she received a substantial sum for several months after she got the money. Yet she's asking for more hence the comment made. Otherwise I agree, it is fine asking for support. In fact I encourage it. That wasn't the context however.

It does bother me and it may affect me. I and others I know are looking to do kickstarter projects and people like her give it a bad name.
I'm vaguely aware of what it is. One thing I don't understand - do you just get money sent to you? What happens if you don't do what you said you were? Anyway, from her website it sounds like she is still working on it. I would imagine there would be a big backlash if she doesn't do it, but it seems premature to judge her based on not having a big project done. Also, it appears all of her videos have a little thing at the end asking for donations, and the lego video was done well before the kickstarter idea.
What happens is contributions are made. Depending on the level of contribution you may get something more back (such as a character named after you in a video game) You do get money sent to you or whatever vehicle you have set up for the project. In fact any investor would want to know the skills of whoever is doing it, like any other business, and see clear progress being made. The people doing it would be expected to show results and reports as they go.

As far as I know, like any investment, there is no payback if nothing is produced. As long as investors are smart this should only happen for normal business failure reasons (there's been some spectacular failures) However she sold her idea on something tenuous and heavily promoted the Rad Fem thing, so of course people invested based on emotion rather than business sense. She had nothing to show and produced nothing. All she has to do is start showing mysogony in games, any of us could do that in 10 minutes if you take the Rad Fem line. Do a couple a week and she'd have done what she said she would do in no time. Then write up a report and off you go, easy. A few thousand would cover that if not less.

Kickstarter relies on the goodwill of people to get projects off the ground. In my opinion she abused that goodwill so far. She may come up with something that's great but I won't be holding my breath. At best she stopped her project from being taken up by someone who would have at least done something by now. She has probably closed that door for them.
Her first video is due to be released soon, at least that's what her page says. Prediction: She won't mention the way males are stereotyped, or just killed because someone had to die in that scene. Oh no, it'll be all about how female characters are over-sexualized, or stereotyped. Another equity feminist failing. If it kills a man it's fine, but Holy Jebus if a woman shows too much fucking cleavage.
Well, the first video shouldn't be TOO bad, as it's on a relatively tame trope, controversy-wise, that being the "Damsel In Distress". Well it wouldn't be, expect for the most obvious thing where the video game industry has gone from the point from where every second or third game used that trope to the point where it's rarely used. Nintendo still uses it a bunch, because they keep the traditional storylines, but it's pretty rare these days overall.

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Submariner wrote:
Jack wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:
Jack wrote:
You may want to look up what kickstarter is. It is a method of obtaining money up front in order to produce a promised product. It is becoming very popular and allows products or services that would otherwise not be made. She has not produced the product she received a substantial sum for several months after she got the money. Yet she's asking for more hence the comment made. Otherwise I agree, it is fine asking for support. In fact I encourage it. That wasn't the context however.

It does bother me and it may affect me. I and others I know are looking to do kickstarter projects and people like her give it a bad name.
I'm vaguely aware of what it is. One thing I don't understand - do you just get money sent to you? What happens if you don't do what you said you were? Anyway, from her website it sounds like she is still working on it. I would imagine there would be a big backlash if she doesn't do it, but it seems premature to judge her based on not having a big project done. Also, it appears all of her videos have a little thing at the end asking for donations, and the lego video was done well before the kickstarter idea.
What happens is contributions are made. Depending on the level of contribution you may get something more back (such as a character named after you in a video game) You do get money sent to you or whatever vehicle you have set up for the project. In fact any investor would want to know the skills of whoever is doing it, like any other business, and see clear progress being made. The people doing it would be expected to show results and reports as they go.

As far as I know, like any investment, there is no payback if nothing is produced. As long as investors are smart this should only happen for normal business failure reasons (there's been some spectacular failures) However she sold her idea on something tenuous and heavily promoted the Rad Fem thing, so of course people invested based on emotion rather than business sense. She had nothing to show and produced nothing. All she has to do is start showing mysogony in games, any of us could do that in 10 minutes if you take the Rad Fem line. Do a couple a week and she'd have done what she said she would do in no time. Then write up a report and off you go, easy. A few thousand would cover that if not less.

Kickstarter relies on the goodwill of people to get projects off the ground. In my opinion she abused that goodwill so far. She may come up with something that's great but I won't be holding my breath. At best she stopped her project from being taken up by someone who would have at least done something by now. She has probably closed that door for them.
Her first video is due to be released soon, at least that's what her page says. Prediction: She won't mention the way males are stereotyped, or just killed because someone had to die in that scene. Oh no, it'll be all about how female characters are over-sexualized, or stereotyped. Another equity feminist failing. If it kills a man it's fine, but Holy Jebus if a woman shows too much fucking cleavage.
Agreed, but i think you've switched "equity" with "gender".

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nippletwister wrote:Snip

Agreed, but i think you've switched "equity" with "gender".
Someone wanna get me a program? I can't tell the players from the coaches without a program.

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Feminism brands: Radical, equity, gender, moderate, liberal, separatist, orthodox, and Shaolin.

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Submariner wrote:Feminism brands: Radical, equity, gender, moderate, liberal, separatist, orthodox, and Shaolin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_and_gender_feminism

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Oneiros666 wrote:
Mykeru wrote:
Oneiros666 wrote:Just saw Mykeru's latest video. Fucking hell, Mykeru, that is some epic stuff!

I am so fucking sick and tired of cunts such as Melody Hensley ruining the good name of atheism world-wide. Let's hope the management at CFI manages to rid itself of the latest influx of A+theism radfems in their ranks.
You know, I don't want CFI to get rid of Hensley. Even though she's a true believer and a bully, I refuse to cross the line of thinking people should lose their livelihood. Same thing when people were going on about Sasha Wiley Shaw being a teacher (apparently adult ed) and how terrible that was, blah-blah-blah.

Maybe those people in those positions are the same as a Creationist teaching a science class, but I'm not convinced that this totally destroys her day-to-day function as Executive Director.

What Hensley needs is a good talking to. She may need some therapy. I don't know. What I do know is it must be hell on earth to walk around that pathologically thin-skinned and with an obsessive need to control other people. And to be so bad at it.

Probably because I recognize the fact that bullies of her sort (and Benson, Meyers, Laden, etc) are basically weak and fragile people, often I have far more sympathy for them than I may actually display.

The dilemma is, of course, that these sort of weak, fragile people can also do such harm to other people. Calling them out is not to remind them they are weak, ineffectual people, but to mitigate the harm they do.

I also recognize that any sympathy I may have for yappy little dogs like that would in no way be reciprocated. Even though I would tend to moderate the real world consequences for their bullying, they would destroy me, laugh about it, and sleep like babies.
Hi there, Mykeru!

I disagree with you. Had Hensley's job been a job not directly related to scepticism and atheism; fine. I wouldn't have wanted her to lose her job as a teacher/banker/lawyer/whatever. But her job is to be exec over at Center For Inquiry (CFI) and that is an organisation devoted to the cause of scepticism and atheism. She is ruining the good name of scepticism and atheism by trying to equate those two stalwart ideas with radical feminism/"social justice". She must not be allowed to do this. Her being an exec over at CFI means that she has massive influence in regards to who are allowed to speak at seminars and conferences, what causes CFI champions and how scepticism and atheism is viewed by the public. Her actions, both as exec over at CFI and as a "civilian" over at Twitter (even though she uses her title in all of her public writings) disqualifies her as a good exec, in my opinion. And I think the owners of CFI (I have no idea how CFI is organized aside from Hensley being exec) should fire her and all of her cohorts.

Atheism and scepticism must never again be regarded by the public as radical socialist ideas (as atheism was from 1920-1990). Hensley fights in order to make scepticism and atheism all about socialism (thinly disguised as "social justice") and she must be stopped.
That may be all true, but it still seems like a souless sort of thing to do, and stinks of politicking. Has less to do with what actually happens to Hensley et. al. because I don't really give a fuck and more with how I play the game.

What's more, Hensley isn't Queen of Skepticism and Center for Inquiry isn't the Atheist National Convention. It's an organization that's already been tainted by questionable behavior, such as the ousting of Paul Kurtz, the installation of little toady sycophants and even the presence of Ron Lindsay, who seems to be turning it into a failing scam.

Without checking the numbers, CFI bled over 300k last period while Lindsay was getting over 100k for doing less actual work than Paris Hilton.

So perhaps my attitude is better expressed as "Fuck 'em, why bother, they bought their ticket, I say let them crash"

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Scented Nectar wrote:
LMU wrote:
I might be doing it wrong, but I tried to find archived versions of PZ's Always Name Names post ( http://web.archive.org/web/201211050413 ... ame-names/ ) and the archived versions only go back to July 2012 (more than a year after the post was made) and none of them have comments. Am I doing it wrong or does Wayback Machine not keep archives older than a certain amount?
The links they give often screw up, I'm finding. Go to the wayback's main page, and start from fresh, entering http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011 ... ame-names/ into the search box. Then it should give you a calendar (year changes are at the top somewhere), and then try to find one that's between 2011/07/09 to about 2011/08/09 (it'll be after the comment thread was complete, but before PZ 'lost' them). Do the same for all three EG threads.

I'll put up a copy that I've made from the wayback onto my own site along with the slimepit archives. I was going to just give people the wayback's links, but they keep not working right most of the time.
That's what I thought I was doing. :( When you say "they keep not working right most of the time" does it mean they work right some of the time and I should just keep trying? Thanks for your efforts! :)

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nippletwister wrote:
Gumby wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote: Both her [Marcotte] and Jessica Valenti (another article writing feminist) have come out in favour of taking away the accused sex criminals' rights to be presumed innocence, meaning no evidence needed, and the victim's (always a woman) word will be all that's needed. Unlike the process for any other crime I can think of, where evidence is considered and questioning is allowed for a fair trial.
That just gives me the chills. Combine that desire with the absurdly loose definition of rape shitstains like these two subscribe to, and you have their idea of Utopia: a totalitarian radfem society where men can be arrested and tried under the presumption of guilt for any fucking thing a woman wants to call "rape".

I am genuinely surprised at how hard it is for people to see these things. I was complaining about issues like this when I still considered myself more or less a feminist. These days, it's part and parcel of the movement, whether the dumber ones realize it or not.
I don't think it's a matter of "dumber", I think it's more a matter of "uninformed". I've long considered myself a feminist, in that I think men and women should all have equal opportunity and all have equal rights. I figured that was pretty much the entire gist of feminism. It wasn't until fairly recently (within the last couple of years) that I started realizing just how deep the feminist rabbit-hole goes. As has been pointed out here, when most people think of "feminism" they think of a generic warm and fuzzy version of equity feminism, and are surprised to see just how vicious and inhuman feminism can be when seized by self-proclaimed social justice warriors.

I went through a similar experience with Christianity. When I was a believer I was similarly naive about my religion and my fellow believers. My Christianity was typical whitebread Jesus, nativity scene, cross, resurrection, golden rule stuff. I figured other Christians were pretty much the same, they just believed to more or less of a degree than I did. I had a rude awakening when I started learning of radical fundamentalism, dominionist ideology, and the Westboro types.

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Karmakin wrote:
Submariner wrote: Her first video is due to be released soon, at least that's what her page says. Prediction: She won't mention the way males are stereotyped, or just killed because someone had to die in that scene. Oh no, it'll be all about how female characters are over-sexualized, or stereotyped. Another equity feminist failing. If it kills a man it's fine, but Holy Jebus if a woman shows too much fucking cleavage.
Well, the first video shouldn't be TOO bad, as it's on a relatively tame trope, controversy-wise, that being the "Damsel In Distress". Well it wouldn't be, expect for the most obvious thing where the video game industry has gone from the point from where every second or third game used that trope to the point where it's rarely used. Nintendo still uses it a bunch, because they keep the traditional storylines, but it's pretty rare these days overall.
Will she comment on the misandry implied by the damsel in distress trope? Nobody would rescue a man, just look how disappointed Lancelot is.

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Submariner wrote:Feminism brands: Radical, equity, gender, moderate, liberal, separatist, orthodox, and Shaolin.
Don't forget...

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ReneeHendricks wrote:LOL They think we're all upset over Oolon's "nifty" block bot:
@janphar @aratina @The_Block_Bot The slymies are already howling about the blocking of dissenting opinions.
https://twitter.com/janphar/status/299682177682112512
Oh, I howled all right. With laughter.

Oolon's probably getting more belly rubs than he's ever received in his pathetic life. Good boy, Oolon. Good boy.

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Karmakin wrote:
Submariner wrote:
Jack wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:
Jack wrote:
You may want to look up what kickstarter is. It is a method of obtaining money up front in order to produce a promised product. It is becoming very popular and allows products or services that would otherwise not be made. She has not produced the product she received a substantial sum for several months after she got the money. Yet she's asking for more hence the comment made. Otherwise I agree, it is fine asking for support. In fact I encourage it. That wasn't the context however.

It does bother me and it may affect me. I and others I know are looking to do kickstarter projects and people like her give it a bad name.
I'm vaguely aware of what it is. One thing I don't understand - do you just get money sent to you? What happens if you don't do what you said you were? Anyway, from her website it sounds like she is still working on it. I would imagine there would be a big backlash if she doesn't do it, but it seems premature to judge her based on not having a big project done. Also, it appears all of her videos have a little thing at the end asking for donations, and the lego video was done well before the kickstarter idea.
What happens is contributions are made. Depending on the level of contribution you may get something more back (such as a character named after you in a video game) You do get money sent to you or whatever vehicle you have set up for the project. In fact any investor would want to know the skills of whoever is doing it, like any other business, and see clear progress being made. The people doing it would be expected to show results and reports as they go.

As far as I know, like any investment, there is no payback if nothing is produced. As long as investors are smart this should only happen for normal business failure reasons (there's been some spectacular failures) However she sold her idea on something tenuous and heavily promoted the Rad Fem thing, so of course people invested based on emotion rather than business sense. She had nothing to show and produced nothing. All she has to do is start showing mysogony in games, any of us could do that in 10 minutes if you take the Rad Fem line. Do a couple a week and she'd have done what she said she would do in no time. Then write up a report and off you go, easy. A few thousand would cover that if not less.

Kickstarter relies on the goodwill of people to get projects off the ground. In my opinion she abused that goodwill so far. She may come up with something that's great but I won't be holding my breath. At best she stopped her project from being taken up by someone who would have at least done something by now. She has probably closed that door for them.
Her first video is due to be released soon, at least that's what her page says. Prediction: She won't mention the way males are stereotyped, or just killed because someone had to die in that scene. Oh no, it'll be all about how female characters are over-sexualized, or stereotyped. Another equity feminist failing. If it kills a man it's fine, but Holy Jebus if a woman shows too much fucking cleavage.
Well, the first video shouldn't be TOO bad, as it's on a relatively tame trope, controversy-wise, that being the "Damsel In Distress". Well it wouldn't be, expect for the most obvious thing where the video game industry has gone from the point from where every second or third game used that trope to the point where it's rarely used. Nintendo still uses it a bunch, because they keep the traditional storylines, but it's pretty rare these days overall.
I would be disappointed if she takes the easiest possible route for her videos. I think it is a tough task to do well, not because there aren't lots of issues worth exploring, but sexism in video games is so obvious that it may be difficult to show it well without just pointing out the obvious over and over. I'm interested in watching them and hope they are as good as her others.

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Apples wrote:
Submariner wrote:Feminism brands: Radical, equity, gender, moderate, liberal, separatist, orthodox, and Shaolin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_and_gender_feminism
Thanks smart-ass.

Fuck off.

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Gumby wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:LOL They think we're all upset over Oolon's "nifty" block bot:
@janphar @aratina @The_Block_Bot The slymies are already howling about the blocking of dissenting opinions.
https://twitter.com/janphar/status/299682177682112512
Oh, I howled all right. With laughter.

Oolon's probably getting more belly rubs than he's ever received in his pathetic life. Good boy, Oolon. Good boy.
I laughed until it occurred that the bot will end up with people being suspended. Not cool at all.

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