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Gumby wrote:Reap, we always knew you were a bad influence!

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I think this was caused by Reap's callously calling Stephie a "bitch". Reap, you should apologize to Stephie. I have an idea for the apology letter:
http://i.imgur.com/JnBLs.png

You're welcome, Reap.

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This just came in as a video response to mine.

Sermon On The Mounted
[youtube]X0EJLEnnfto[/youtube]

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EdgePenguin wrote:Speaking of the far left having the same problems as the atheists, the Socialist Worker Party in the UK is getting slammed by feminists.

http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penn ... about-left
Seems like the feminists are right on this one. Attempting to try a rape case though an internal party disciplinary committee because you don't trust the "bourgeois criminal justice system" is despicable. I'd really like to see the minutes of that meeting though.

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Cracked claims that in the European Dark Ages "women were treated like cattle" is a myth! Must have been written by an MRA. #2 here: http://www.cracked.com/article_20186_6- ... es_p2.html

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Interesting gender feminist versus other feminist (the SJW type) controversy today:

Last week Suzanne Moore put an article in the New Statesmen about "women's anger" including the bizarre line:
The cliché is that female anger is always turned inwards rather than outwards into despair. We are angry with ourselves for not being happier, not being loved properly and not having the ideal body shape – that of a Brazilian transsexual. We are angry that men do not do enough. We are angry at work where we are underpaid and overlooked. This anger can be neatly channelled and outsourced to make someone a fat profit. Are your hormones okay? Do you need a nice bath? Some sex tips and an internet date? What if, contrary to Sex and the City, new shoes do not fill the hole in your soul? What if you aspire to another model of womanhood than the mute but beautifully groomed Kate Middleton? What if your anguish is not illogical but actually bloody spot on?
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... male-anger

Moore got called out for transphobia (and racism!) on Twitter:
http://storify.com/leftytgirl/suzanne-m ... ource=t.co

(this includes input from moronic king-cunt JonnieMarbLes who you may remember pied Rupert Murdoch in the face - he is friends with Laurie Penny, to tie that all together)

Moore eventually flounced from Twitter after getting a lot of "input" from people who found her comment transphobic:
People can just fuck off really. Cut their dicks off and be more feminist than me. Good for them.
Today, Julie Burchill has responded with an extraordinary article in the Guardian:
She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.
The trans lobby is now saying that it wasn't so much the initial piece as Suzanne's refusal to apologise when told to that "made" them drive her from Twitter. Presumably she is meant to do this in the name of solidarity and the "struggle", though I find it very hard to imagine this mob struggling with anything apart from the English language and the concept of free speech.

To have your cock cut off and then plead special privileges as women – above natural-born women, who don't know the meaning of suffering, apparently – is a bit like the old definition of chutzpah: the boy who killed his parents and then asked the jury for clemency on the grounds he was an orphan.

Shims, shemales, whatever you're calling yourselves these days – don't threaten or bully us lowly natural-born women, I warn you. We may not have as many lovely big swinging Phds as you, but we've experienced a lifetime of PMT and sexual harassment and many of us are now staring HRT and the menopause straight in the face – and still not flinching. Trust me, you ain't seen nothing yet. You really won't like us when we're angry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... anssexuals

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rayshul wrote:By the way, planned to say this earlier about what people said about large salaries for non-profit organisations directors and business managers. I think before you say - oh this person is getting too much money - try and work out what you think they'd get if they were working for a corporate organisation.

You generally get the kind of employees you pay for (YMMV, obvs) and super successful business managers and directors would make a whole lot more dosh if they worked at a corporate place. The salaries they're making are proabbly a massive paycut from what they're worth.
Maybe, but I've not known many in upper management to actually DO anything. They mostly seem to be expensive title holders, but with suitable attitudes and buzzwords and willingness to attend meetings and lunches with major clients. That's anecdotal (places I've worked and where friends have worked), but I'm very skeptical about people I see as do-nothing office placeholders making 6 digit salaries.

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Gumby wrote:Reap, we always knew you were a bad influence!

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... ddebdc.jpg
Yeah, well look at the kind of scumbags Aratina hangs with:

[spoiler]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8222/8376 ... 49ae_c.jpg[/spoiler]

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Scented Nectar's post made me think of this song as an addendum to my previous post:
[youtube]RTOQUnvI3CA[/youtube]

My thoughts btw, are that Moore's comment was a bizarre thing to put in the original piece, the response of the trans activists was an over-reaction, and Moore and Burchill's response to that over-reaction was an even greater over-reaction.

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I usually can't stand Julie Burchill but:
She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.
Hahaha, spot on.

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Mr Danksworth wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Why's she doing this? She could be truly naive, or truly stupid. She could be doing it out of self-interest, whether she's narcisisstically seeking attention or greedily seeking income (blog hits, or as someone somewhere suggested, maybe thinking about trying for a book deal). Or she could be trying to sabotage the defense, though it's not clear why she'd do that, nor does the content of what she has said seem to fit with that.
She might be trying to sabotage her own participation in the trial. Poisoning herself as a witness so that she doesn't have to go.
Except at this point if the defense drops her from their list, the prosecution will add her to their list.

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Scented Nectar wrote:This just came in as a video response to mine.

Sermon On The Mounted
[youtube]X0EJLEnnfto[/youtube]
Now that's a disturbing video. Peezee speaking with the nasal voice of Twatson.

Ugh!

Note: It has sparked off some old memories. The music of "Frankie goes to Hollywood" was always a bone of contention in my youth. I (a strictly heterosexual bloke) loved the album, much to the derision of my mates. Seriously, at the risk of sounding like Patrick Bateman, the production value of "Welcome to the pleasure dome" is off the chart!

(Pure nostalgia!)

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surreptitious57 wrote:[spoiler]
LMU wrote:
surreptitious57 wrote:
EdwardGemmer wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:
Do you have a link or screencap of where they called you a rapist
http://skepchick.org/2012/12/skepchick- ... /#comments

It is near the bottom where I told someone I did not remember exactly what they said. It was what I thought was a fairly benign conversaion. People were making fun of weirdos on OK Cupid who did not appear to be nice guys. There was an insinuation that anyone who thought a woman could have a moral obligation to have sex was a rapist. I tried to think of ways someone could think that and not be a rapist and that led to the conclusion that I was in fact a rapist. Good to know, I guess
Discounting the emotional content of her posts, I have to say that I agree with Marilove here on the fundamental principle that there should never be a moral obligation on the part of anyone to have sex with anyone else and I deliberately reference this as non gender specific too, even though she was doing so from a feminist perspective. Indeed I agreed with everything in her exchange with you apart from one thing and that was where she said that a man never has to fear being raped. The fear may not exist but the actuality most certainly does. Oh and Marilove most definitely is female, not that that matters, but she is - since you had some doubts regarding her gender. She certainly does not pull her punches but having one s mindset being tested to its absolute by those who fundamentally disagree with one s position is - at least for me - a vital and necessary experience, so in that respect I salute her and any others who directly or indirectly challenge my own and long may it continue
Is it possible to have a moral obligation to do anything ? Can one have a moral obligation to share affection with ones spouse ? If so, is there something special about sex that makes it exempt from any such obligation ?
The problem regarding moral obligation as pertaining to sex is that it can create a conflict of interest between doing what is required of one and doing what one wants to do. These two are not always compatible. So to eliminate this ambiguity, there should be a simple rule that no moral obligation is required and that sex is only permittable when all parties freely consent to it and even then that if at any point during the act of sex that one party wishes - for whatever reason - to abstain that that is allowed and absolutely so, too. This is a wonderful ideal but like all ideals does not translate very well to reality, but in principle I think it is the natural default position - at least for me. Of course it does not help that men generally have higher sex drives than women and that women generally see sex as an expression of love rather than lust but even so. What needs to be challenged is the notion of moral obligation to providing sex for one s partner out of necessity rather than desire. Unless your wife or girlfriend is a nymphomaniac you do not have the right to screw her whenever you wish just because you have a hard on - that thinking belongs in the Dark Ages - and I am not suggesting this has never happened to me, because like most men it has, but if the lady says no, then you have to accept that - end of[/spoiler]
EdwardGemmer and somedumbguy both had good responses to you I think, so you may wish to respond to them instead of me and I apologize for dogpiling.

"The problem regarding moral obligation as pertaining to sex is that it can create a conflict of interest between doing what is required of one and doing what one wants to do."

This is a problem with all obligations, not just moral ones related to sex. I can want to not pay my electric bill, but still be obligated to do so. It is possible to be obligated to give, even where it would be wrong to take. Also there is an important difference between wanting to do something and consenting to do something, sex work is based on this distinction (unless you think all prostitution is rape?). If you consent to an arrangement where you agree to do something, you are then obligated to do that thing. You can later renege, but there are usually consequences. For example if I refused to pay my electric bill, my electricity could be shut off.

"Unless your wife or girlfriend is a nymphomaniac you do not have the right to screw her whenever you wish just because you have a hard on "

This is a straw man, and a frustrating one because it is used so frequently by baboons. No one is arguing this here.

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Bhurzum wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:This just came in as a video response to mine.

Sermon On The Mounted
[youtube]X0EJLEnnfto[/youtube]
Now that's a disturbing video. Peezee speaking with the nasal voice of Twatson.

Ugh!

Note: It has sparked off some old memories. The music of "Frankie goes to Hollywood" was always a bone of contention in my youth. I (a strictly heterosexual bloke) loved the album, much to the derision of my mates. Seriously, at the risk of sounding like Patrick Bateman, the production value of "Welcome to the pleasure dome" is off the chart!

(Pure nostalgia!)
I just want to know what lip sync software that is.

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cunt wrote:I usually can't stand Julie Burchill but:
She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.
Hahaha, spot on.
The Cis name is kind of silly, however, I've never heard a transperson use that IRL. In fact, my handful of trans friends who don't spend their time on the internet haven't heard the term. They transitioned, badabing, badaboom, got on with their lives and the more important shit they deal with, like homeownership, working, relationships, yada yada. I've used the term when talking about gender because there's no other good, short word that can describe "identifying and expressing yourself completely with the sex you were born with."

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Mykeru wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:This just came in as a video response to mine.

Sermon On The Mounted
[youtube]X0EJLEnnfto[/youtube]
Now that's a disturbing video. Peezee speaking with the nasal voice of Twatson.

Ugh!

Note: It has sparked off some old memories. The music of "Frankie goes to Hollywood" was always a bone of contention in my youth. I (a strictly heterosexual bloke) loved the album, much to the derision of my mates. Seriously, at the risk of sounding like Patrick Bateman, the production value of "Welcome to the pleasure dome" is off the chart!

(Pure nostalgia!)
I just want to know what lip sync software that is.
There's an app on the iphone/ipad that does quite good lip-synchs.
It's called photospeak. I'm not sure it was used for the above video (I think you can only do face shots rather than whole body shots with the face animated) but it does give you a decent lip-synch animation and allows you to export the files so that you can use the section in a video.

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Hello!

First poster here, I hope everyone is fine.

I'm a bit behind on the reading, roughly in the middle of that Zinnia Jones business. Quite facepalmingly stupid of her.

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Tkmlac wrote: The Cis name is kind of silly, however, I've never heard a transperson use that IRL. In fact, my handful of trans friends who don't spend their time on the internet haven't heard the term. They transitioned, badabing, badaboom, got on with their lives and the more important shit they deal with, like homeownership, working, relationships, yada yada. I've used the term when talking about gender because there's no other good, short word that can describe "identifying and expressing yourself completely with the sex you were born with."
My experience is a bit more limited than that, only ever known one person who transitioned. Also no SJW terms 'cis', 'biowoman', or other insistence that they really were a woman. Just that they prefer to present to the world as a woman.

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Tkmlac wrote:
cunt wrote:I usually can't stand Julie Burchill but:
She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.
Hahaha, spot on.
The Cis name is kind of silly, however, I've never heard a transperson use that IRL. In fact, my handful of trans friends who don't spend their time on the internet haven't heard the term. They transitioned, badabing, badaboom, got on with their lives and the more important shit they deal with, like homeownership, working, relationships, yada yada. I've used the term when talking about gender because there's no other good, short word that can describe "identifying and expressing yourself completely with the sex you were born with."
"cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.

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Mykeru wrote:I just want to know what lip sync software that is.
Me too. It leaves my karaoke clips in the dust!

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BarnOwl wrote:Zinnia is exhibiting the classic FtB response to disagreement and to being demonstrably just plain fucking wrong: dig a deeper trench, and hunker down in a mire of smugness and righteous indignation.

Perhaps Mykeru can lend her an entrenching tool.
Yep, it is what they call "doubling down". But as per usual, it doesn't apply to them.

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Tkmlac wrote:[spoiler]
cunt wrote:I usually can't stand Julie Burchill but:
She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.
Hahaha, spot on.
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The Cis name is kind of silly, however, I've never heard a transperson use that IRL. In fact, my handful of trans friends who don't spend their time on the internet haven't heard the term. They transitioned, badabing, badaboom, got on with their lives and the more important shit they deal with, like homeownership, working, relationships, yada yada. I've used the term when talking about gender because there's no other good, short word that can describe "identifying and expressing yourself completely with the sex you were born with."
In retrospect, I imagine Burchill spotted what happened to Moore, thought "I could go for some of that public flogging!" and wrote an article specifically to attract derisory attention. She must think she will somehow benefit from it.

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Scented Nectar wrote:
Mykeru wrote:I just want to know what lip sync software that is.
Me too. It leaves my karaoke clips in the dust!
i'm pretty sure you could use photospeak for that level of realism.

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Regarding Zinnia Jones, has anyone else heard the rumor that she talked a lot more about this case on the FTB backchannel and what she said there is a lot more explosive for the case than what she has made public so far?

If I were on Mannings defence team I'd be requesting a copy of all the FTB backchannel communication immediately.

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Bhurzum wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:This just came in as a video response to mine.

Sermon On The Mounted
X0EJLEnnfto
Now that's a disturbing video. Peezee speaking with the nasal voice of Twatson.

Ugh!
I'm not sure, but I think the concept was that it was RW talking but using PZ as her ventriloquist's dummy. That's why it keeps cutting to RW face moving but not her lips... and she appears to have a hand up his skirt. I think it's a wonderful statement of their relationship, if a bit disturbing as a visual.

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Dick Strawkins wrote: "cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.
I think the trans* activists borrow it from chemistry. Some organic compounds can exist in two forms (called isomers), either a cis-form or a trans-form based on the orientation of the functional groups in that compound. If they're rotated to be on the same side they are cis-, otherwise they are trans-. This is related to what happened with thalidomide. It turns out that one form of the thalidomide drug does what it's supposed to (combat morning sickness), but the other form causes birth defects. Unfortunately the chemical can rotate and turn from one form to the other (importantly from the safe form to the dangerous form) in the blood.

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AbsurdWalls wrote: In retrospect, I imagine Burchill spotted what happened to Moore, thought "I could go for some of that public flogging!" and wrote an article specifically to attract derisory attention. She must think she will somehow benefit from it.
Julie Burchill setting out to troll the guardian's readership. Never.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
Tkmlac wrote:
cunt wrote:I usually can't stand Julie Burchill but:
She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.
Hahaha, spot on.
The Cis name is kind of silly, however, I've never heard a transperson use that IRL. In fact, my handful of trans friends who don't spend their time on the internet haven't heard the term. They transitioned, badabing, badaboom, got on with their lives and the more important shit they deal with, like homeownership, working, relationships, yada yada. I've used the term when talking about gender because there's no other good, short word that can describe "identifying and expressing yourself completely with the sex you were born with."
"cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.
I think if we got right down to it, we'd find more of a scale than an either/or when it comes to gender identity and expression, like the proposed scale for sexuality. The breakup of "CIS" or "trans" seems too prescriptive to me.

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Badger3k wrote:I'd heard it here, but didm't think much about it, but, yeah, Misspelling Physiofucke is posting "Moby Dicke". Pigfucker can't even leave the book alone, but he has to insert his particular fetish into that too. Is this some kind of mental thing, or is he just a poser, or a douchebag, or both? I'm going with all three myself, but...eh.
If he drums like he writes, it'll suck

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cunt wrote:
AbsurdWalls wrote: In retrospect, I imagine Burchill spotted what happened to Moore, thought "I could go for some of that public flogging!" and wrote an article specifically to attract derisory attention. She must think she will somehow benefit from it.
Julie Burchill setting out to troll the guardian's readership. Never.
I've never heard of this lady. I suspect that's a good thing. I hate to make this analogy, because it's used to describe the anti-FtB crowd, but if she were describing some kind of racism of blacks toward whites, pointed out the flaw in their racism and then started calling them the N word, she wouldn't have been given a platform to stand on. I'll make the point right now, so I don't have to defend it later, that the "bitch" and "cunt" analogy doesn't work because those words have changed their meanings. "Nigger" and "tranny" or "shemale" is not used for any other definition and those groups have been extremely ostracized and oppressed, whereas women have been oppressed in some ways, but still benefitted from the class and race they belonged to. (ie, white women from the upper class, while unable to vote or control their reproductive organs, would still be miles above any black man or trans person in terms of mobility and standard of living 100 years ago).

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
Mykeru wrote:I just want to know what lip sync software that is.
Me too. It leaves my karaoke clips in the dust!
i'm pretty sure you could use photospeak for that level of realism.
I just downloaded a Windows version to try out. I don't own any Mac anythings.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:Regarding Zinnia Jones, has anyone else heard the rumor that she talked a lot more about this case on the FTB backchannel and what she said there is a lot more explosive for the case than what she has made public so far?

If I were on Mannings defence team I'd be requesting a copy of all the FTB backchannel communication immediately.
OMFSM!!! You're right. Even if she denies she said anything on the backchannel, I think they'd have to check anyways. Is it bad of me to be chuckling at the thought? :lol:

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JAB wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:This just came in as a video response to mine.

Sermon On The Mounted
X0EJLEnnfto
Now that's a disturbing video. Peezee speaking with the nasal voice of Twatson.

Ugh!
I'm not sure, but I think the concept was that it was RW talking but using PZ as her ventriloquist's dummy. That's why it keeps cutting to RW face moving but not her lips... and she appears to have a hand up his skirt. I think it's a wonderful statement of their relationship, if a bit disturbing as a visual.
Yes, I think he was "mounted" on her hand, ventriloquist style. :)

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Gumby wrote:Oh Noes!

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b0ed2d.jpg

Another fantasy destroyed. Oh well, at least I'll save money on Kleenex and Jergens Lotion.
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Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.


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AbsurdWalls wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote: "cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.
I think the trans* activists borrow it from chemistry. Some organic compounds can exist in two forms (called isomers), either a cis-form or a trans-form based on the orientation of the functional groups in that compound. If they're rotated to be on the same side they are cis-, otherwise they are trans-. This is related to what happened with thalidomide. It turns out that one form of the thalidomide drug does what it's supposed to (combat morning sickness), but the other form causes birth defects. Unfortunately the chemical can rotate and turn from one form to the other (importantly from the safe form to the dangerous form) in the blood.
I have the impression that 'cis' is used in order to avoid 'normal' or, even worse, 'real'. I have no problem with this, except that certain SJWs now tend to add 'cis' to the items on the privilege bingo card (as in 'cis, white, straight, middle-aged male.'), which is mildly annoying. I mean, it is not objectively wrong to point out privilege (a statistical parameter of sorts), but playing bingo with it is annoying.

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Tkmlac wrote:
cunt wrote:I usually can't stand Julie Burchill but:
She, the other JB and I are part of the minority of women of working-class origin to make it in what used to be called Fleet Street and I think this partly contributes to the stand-off with the trannies. (I know that's a wrong word, but having recently discovered that their lot describe born women as 'Cis' – sounds like syph, cyst, cistern; all nasty stuff – they're lucky I'm not calling them shemales. Or shims.) We know that everything we have we got for ourselves. We have no family money, no safety net. And we are damned if we are going to be accused of being privileged by a bunch of bed-wetters in bad wigs.
Hahaha, spot on.
The Cis name is kind of silly, however, I've never heard a transperson use that IRL. In fact, my handful of trans friends who don't spend their time on the internet haven't heard the term. They transitioned, badabing, badaboom, got on with their lives and the more important shit they deal with, like homeownership, working, relationships, yada yada. I've
Exactly right. In fact, the idiots who do identify as trans* on the Internet are often the worst "ambassadors" for a simple mis-wiring in the brain. It's far better to educate rather than be uncivil and hit people over the head with it. These idiots have even gone out of their way to try and recruit those "gender traitors" into their political army of trans*. Thats as rude and ignorant as telling an atheist they have a religion.
used the term when talking about gender because there's no other good, short word that can describe "identifying and expressing yourself completely with the sex you were born with."
Sadly no, there isn't. But is there really a need to?

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Jan Steen wrote:
AbsurdWalls wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote: "cis" is a common term in molecular biology, denoting something that has an effect in its immediate locality - as opposed to "trans" meaning something that has an effect at a different location.
I guess it is probably common in other areas of science too.
It is rather strange that it should be taken up as a term by the social justice warriors because it is suggestive of two distinct groups - the cis and the trans - whereas in reality the "cis" group is going to consist of 99.9% of the population (basically consisting of almost all heterosexuals and homosexuals) while the "trans" group will be part of the remainder.
Who the hell considers themselves a "cis" sexual?
As a hetero I probably have much more in common with the majority of transexuals than I do with a lot of my fellow "cis" folk, such as those of the hatey-hatey radfem lesbian persuasion.
I think the trans* activists borrow it from chemistry. Some organic compounds can exist in two forms (called isomers), either a cis-form or a trans-form based on the orientation of the functional groups in that compound. If they're rotated to be on the same side they are cis-, otherwise they are trans-. This is related to what happened with thalidomide. It turns out that one form of the thalidomide drug does what it's supposed to (combat morning sickness), but the other form causes birth defects. Unfortunately the chemical can rotate and turn from one form to the other (importantly from the safe form to the dangerous form) in the blood.
I have the impression that 'cis' is used in order to avoid 'normal' or, even worse, 'real'. I have no problem with this, except that certain SJWs now tend to add 'cis' to the items on the privilege bingo card (as in 'cis, white, straight, middle-aged male.'), which is mildly annoying. I mean, it is not objectively wrong to point out privilege (a statistical parameter of sorts), but playing bingo with it is annoying.
Quite right. We are all dealt a set of cards at birth, it is up to ourselves to take responsibility for ourselves and do what needs to be done and not whinge about it.

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welch wrote:
Gumby wrote:Oh Noes!

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b0ed2d.jpg

Another fantasy destroyed. Oh well, at least I'll save money on Kleenex and Jergens Lotion.
Melissa: " well, now we know what she'll look like when she gets older....annnd has a sex change."
I'd say those are pretty good shop'd skills, but shop'd nonetheless. No way they have the exact same mouth and nose.

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From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:
Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit.
Some troll nicknamed Hitler trolled the fuck out of your petition and right after that you tied some of that bullshit to this place? Really? Motherfucker, and this the way you think you' gonna get minorities interested on your little Caucasian Guilt Social Club?

Fuck you and the White Savior Horse you rode on.

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JAB wrote: I'm not sure, but I think the concept was that it was RW talking but using PZ as her ventriloquist's dummy. That's why it keeps cutting to RW face moving but not her lips... and she appears to have a hand up his skirt. I think it's a wonderful statement of their relationship, if a bit disturbing as a visual.
Yup.

I totally got that. The "sermon on the mounted" title was a dead giveaway :D

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codelette wrote:From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:
Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit. [/quote
http://skepticfreethought.com/wp-conten ... tfface.jpg

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codelette wrote:From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:
Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit.
Some troll nicknamed Hitler trolled the fuck out of your petition and right after that you tied some of that bullshit to this place? Really? Motherfucker, and this the way you think you' gonna get minorities interested on your little Caucasian Guilt Social Club?

Fuck you and the White Savior Horse you rode on.
I love that their concern is always for the amount of fans they have and not the arguments themselves. He's basically arguing for mob-rule.

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masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Yes I saw tha... DELETED? These people are really scared of opposing views, aren't they?

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Notung wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Yes I saw tha... DELETED? These people are really scared of opposing views, aren't they?
Why am I not surprised...

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Lets put it to a vote, should we bring back hanging in the united kingdom? Well, the sensible arguments say that this is barbaric and unbecoming of a modern civilised society but fuck that let's go on how many likes we can get on Facebook.

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masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?

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masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

masakari2012, thanks for the screencap and sharing that. Unfortunately, you confirm what others have previously reported, that Adam Lee has addopted censorship as a legitimate tool to falsify the level of acceptance of his propogandic bullshit. Note the 8 up votes vs the 2 down votes at the bottom, and that is on Lee's own blog. Noelplum99 is as impressive as usual, landing some seriously solid roundhouse punches to Lee's increasingly flawed screed.

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Tkmlac wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?
He's an improved version of Rhys. Older, doesn't say cunt as much. Probably able to drink legally in the US.

Tat would be the list of "improvements" mind you.

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Ugh. I go off for the night to cavort and generally be silly with my guy and come back to a shit ton of stuff I need to read up on. Damn it! Internet World, slow the fuck down!

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codelette wrote:From Adam Lee's imbecile latest blog entry:
Let's examine the site that's probably the largest and most prominent den of sexist and misogynist atheists, a forum that proudly calls itself the Slymepit.
Some troll nicknamed Hitler trolled the fuck out of your petition and right after that you tied some of that bullshit to this place? Really? Motherfucker, and this the way you think you' gonna get minorities interested on your little Caucasian Guilt Social Club?

Fuck you and the White Savior Horse you rode on.
For the record, I fully support this item in Adam Lee's petition:
We support making the atheist movement more diverse and inclusive.
This. Let's stop inviting the same tired old speakers from FreeThoughtBlogs and Skepchick, who recycle their lectures at every opportunity, and give new and more competent speakers a chance at atheist/skeptic conferences. Derail the gravy train.

Oh, that's not what you intended?

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Tkmlac wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?
And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:Ugh. I go off for the night to cavort and generally be silly with my guy and come back to a shit ton of stuff I need to read up on. Damn it! Internet World, slow the fuck down!
No shit, eh? I tap on my SP link on my phone and see there are two pages I need to catch up on. Then, I think, fuck no I am not reading all that shit on a four inch screen. By the time I get to my computer, another two pages comes up.

Of course, this is a very good thing. :)

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AbsurdWalls wrote:
somedumbguy wrote:A journalist, Erika Jarvis, published a not entirely hostile interview of Paul Elam, publisher/editor of A Voice for Men at the Toronto Standard.

A few days later, the interview has been memory holed along with any other mention of Jarvis at the Toronto Standard.

Because feminists can't stand saying anything remotely fair and balanced about evil MRAs.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... ka-jarvis/
N.B. A Voice For Men is blocked on the UK O2 mobile network as adult content, does it contain any?
I've been reading A Voice For Men off and on for about three months. I've never seen any nudity of any sort there, no erotica, and certainly nothing describable as porn of any sort.

It's mainly articles like any webzine has. The articles may be illustrated by one graphic or photo at the top of it. I've never seen that piece of artwork contain anything salacious or any nudity.

That's based on my three month browsing of the site.

I can't imagine it being an adult site, unless discussions of contemporary feminism being a bullying, oppressive, cultish, half-religion is considered adult, then, well, yeah.

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somedumbguy wrote:
AbsurdWalls wrote:
somedumbguy wrote:A journalist, Erika Jarvis, published a not entirely hostile interview of Paul Elam, publisher/editor of A Voice for Men at the Toronto Standard.

A few days later, the interview has been memory holed along with any other mention of Jarvis at the Toronto Standard.

Because feminists can't stand saying anything remotely fair and balanced about evil MRAs.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fe ... ka-jarvis/
N.B. A Voice For Men is blocked on the UK O2 mobile network as adult content, does it contain any?
I've been reading A Voice For Men off and on for about three months. I've never seen any nudity of any sort there, no erotica, and certainly nothing describable as porn of any sort.

It's mainly articles like any webzine has. The articles may be illustrated by one graphic or photo at the top of it. I've never seen that piece of artwork contain anything salacious or any nudity.

That's based on my three month browsing of the site.

I can't imagine it being an adult site, unless discussions of contemporary feminism being a bullying, oppressive, cultish, half-religion is considered adult, then, well, yeah.
I've seen far more nudity at Huffington Post, Daily Mail, etc.
I've seen far more explicit discussions of an adult sexual nature at feminist sites.

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Tkmlac wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?
He has been an atheist blogger for a fair number of years and used to be a pretty good one, too. I used to follow him regularly. He started out as 'Ebonmuse' and ran his own sight 'Daylight Atheism' page for several years. His main claim to fame was being cited in Richard Dawkins' 'The God Delusion' as a typical up-and-coming atheist site. About a year or two ago, he joined the Big Think group. He was still doing OK at that point and slowly growing a following. Around that time he started doing speaker gigs as well and that must be when he hooked up with the FtB/Skepchik crowd. He stayed below the radar with the rad-fem stuff for the most part, except for occasional attack commentary on his blog, usually aimed at specific individuals who were not toeing the A+ line with sufficient perfection. The mask was finally dropped with his incredibly misleading propaganda piece promoting A+ on Salon. No doubt the kool-aid had taken over much earlier, but that was where he threw it into the open. Ever since he has become an increasingly immature, priggish, authoritarian, self-rightious, arrogant little prick (did I miss anything there?). And now we can willfully closeminded censor to the list, too. What is entertaining is to watch, when outside of his protected environment, just how fast he does the duck and run when he goes head to head with someone like Al Stefanelli or Noelplum99 or anyone else who can cut through his logical house of cards in seconds.

He was once a promising addition to the atheist community, now he is just another slavering lapdog for RW and and friends.

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This was brought to my attention by a disagreer...

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Another gang rape in India - http://www.komonews.com/news/national/6 ... 88701.html - but the bigger picture is, obviously, dumbass tweets/comments/etal that "harass and bully" people like Ophelia Benson, Stephanie Zvan, Rebecca Watson, and Jennifer McCreight.

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ERV wrote:
Tkmlac wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?
And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.
Personally, I doubt that is true. If so, his wife is going to be very angry. I'll hit him squarely on his bullshit, of which he is producing copious amounts lately, but that one is highly, highly unlikely.

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Zenspace wrote:
ERV wrote:
Tkmlac wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Who is this Adam Lee? I had never heard of him. Some internet journalist turned atheist activist? Why is his name suddenly all over the place?
And once again, Im pretty sure hes dating Watson. I might be wrong, but my brain is reminding me of this.
Personally, I doubt that is true. If so, his wife is going to be very angry. I'll hit him squarely on his bullshit, of which he is producing copious amounts lately, but that one is highly, highly unlikely.
*thumbs-up* Thanks!

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