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More community based safety patrol action:

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Hall, 31, watched Tuesday's confusion and chaos unfold: from activists claiming the three-unit house was a haven for sex trafficking, to police finding no evidence to support that claim, to a confrontation involving tear gas and more.

By the time it ended, the house had been set on fire — twice — and Hall and her family had been displaced.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
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Service Dog wrote:
That 'white power' clip Trump retweeted... is the best thing ever.
Definitely better than the Cowboys 4 Trump retweet of " the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat" because it was only meant politically, not really.
Retweeting the couple waving their guns around was pretty good though.

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Young Democrats are burning down black parts of cities to the great cheers older Democrats like free thought police. White Americans and white Canadians like him safely ensconced in white areas are cheering this destruction, and are the actual racists here.

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White Democrats actually pay black families to make sure there are no fathers. White Democrats like FTP are very very happy that millions of black babies are going to be aborted.

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The way to tell people to stop treating people differently according to race, is not to codify treating people according to race as is what the Democrats are already doing in places like where they said that you don't have to wear a mask if you're non-white. this is not going to solve anything and giving this power of the state behind treating people differently according to race is going to make things much worse which I think is what people like FTP want from their lovely mountain homes.

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And yes, you should all go fuck yourselves.

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And yes, you should all go fuck yourselves.

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AndrewV69 wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol:




(Unfortunately, this is probably a fake. No one is that stupid ... right?)
Yes, it's a fake. The women are Kathleen Kennedy (in black), president of Lucasfilm, and a few of the women she hired for the 'Lucasfilm Story Group'. The shirts in the original say 'The Force is Female'.

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It's a very famous picture among Disney Star Wars haters, because it signaled early on where the series was going.

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fuzzy wrote: And yes, you should all go fuck yourselves.
Damn. I think I just got told to own up to my rich socialist privilege.
Not feeling too guilty about it right now. If I think about something later I'll post an apology.

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Service Dog wrote: Netflix & Hulu disappear the 'Advanced Dungeons & Dragons' episode of Community because korean-american-nazi Ken Jeong cosplays as a dark elf in 'blackface'. (The character is mocked in the episode for the faux pas.)

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/community- ... s-episode/

This aggression will not stand!
The evolution of the social prohibition against blackface shows what happens when no pushback is given against professional victim activists. Originally the prohibition was just, in that blackface was primarily used in mistrel shows which generally depicted black people as amiable, lazy idiots. Perhaps worse, it was a rare genuine example of cultural appropriation where black music was commercialized to the benefit of white producers and performers because the public rejected seeing it if actually performed by black artists. This was successful, and genuine blackface all but disappeared by the '60s (it was always mostly a nineteenth century thing). However, with no pushback, over time the idea took hold that any depiction of a white person in black or darkened skin was offensive to black people and we come to the current farce where even 100% satirical uses of darkening the skin with no relation to its minstrel show past is enough for severe social ostracism.

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I think the objection to blackface is similar to the objection to The Little Rascals/ Our Gang.

Those who object to it-- such as Bill Cosby-- say their objection is that it's rrracist.

But I think they're also objecting to the lower-class country bumpkin-ness of it. It's like -they- have a problem with hicks. They don't like the implication that they-too might be lowly folk.

I get it, sure, they don't want to be forever-relegated to slavelike low status. But, to me, that's like a white person rejecting Charlie Chaplin or Fatty Arbuckle-- or Beavis & Butthead & Hank HIll!... because they portrayed lovable losers, not aspirational-alpha-bosses. I think that's a crazy thing to do-- that's discarding the universal human-ness of the Tragedy & Comedy masks. In favor of constructivist propaganda.

Yeah, a white guy in blackface raises doubts about his motive... but even-then... I don't buy that it was always 100% hate-based. Some of those old timey white blackface guys were obviously enamored with the black culture they impersonated & even mocked.

It's an odd microcosm of how races mixed & clashed. Often cringey-- but are we really so fragile we can't handle some unsanitized cringe?

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Even Styx feels it necessary to scold the wife for her lack of trigger discipline.

That said. Angry black hordes, trampling private property with a ‘death to the whites” subtext, need to factor-in likely consequences.


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Hi Lurker.

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One of the few nuggets left at WEIT these days:
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And I thought it was just going to be Alex Jones.


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A handy aphorism, which I've been trying to edit-down to bumper-sticker size:

When someone expresses ideas which sound 'racist', that should be treated the same-as saying something which suggests they believe in astrology.

Years ago, I considered discarding every girl on Tinder who made astrology smalltalk. Then I reconsidered and kept fucking them.

A rebel flag hanging in someone's garage is like a zodiac sign tattoo. Might mean something sinister, might not. It's a safe bet to just not care.

Politicians, liberal arts professors, family doctors, cops, virologists, grade school teachers... catch 'em agreeing with something 'racist' or with astrology... that's almost never going to matter. Even in cases where it matters, sorting-for 'racism' won't detect problems. It will lead to pointless, destructive witch hunts and even-dumber anti-racist clown-dogma.

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Service Dog wrote:
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I think the objection to blackface is similar to the objection to The Little Rascals/ Our Gang.

Those who object to it-- such as Bill Cosby-- say their objection is that it's rrracist.

But I think they're also objecting to the lower-class country bumpkin-ness of it. It's like -they- have a problem with hicks. They don't like the implication that they-too might be lowly folk.

I get it, sure, they don't want to be forever-relegated to slavelike low status. But, to me, that's like a white person rejecting Charlie Chaplin or Fatty Arbuckle-- or Beavis & Butthead & Hank HIll!... because they portrayed lovable losers, not aspirational-alpha-bosses. I think that's a crazy thing to do-- that's discarding the universal human-ness of the Tragedy & Comedy masks. In favor of constructivist propaganda.

Yeah, a white guy in blackface raises doubts about his motive... but even-then... I don't buy that it was always 100% hate-based. Some of those old timey white blackface guys were obviously enamored with the black culture they impersonated & even mocked.

It's an odd microcosm of how races mixed & clashed. Often cringey-- but are we really so fragile we can't handle some unsanitized cringe?
Beavis and Butthead are loveable? More like feckless to the point of sociopathy. Perhaps that's just me not understanding the characters. My impression is that Judge intended Beavis and Butthead to be an unsympathetic portrayal in contrast to Hank Hill. Hill is basically good natured, the other two are more inclined to torture cats.

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screwtape wrote: One of the few nuggets left at WEIT these days:

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Encapsulates the Kulturkampf of the sanctimonious, leftist, doucheousie at WEIT.

The Albigensian Woke signal their holiness and their dedication to the cause by wearing masks. Only cretins demur. Only cretins think they need a gun, but they don't -- guns are just pacifiers for White Fragility.

Internet memes are today's version of the Apostolic Creed -- just repeat them mindlessly. The 'heretics' have their own, of course:

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Beavis and Butthead are loveable? More like feckless to the point of sociopathy. Perhaps that's just me not understanding the characters. My impression is that Judge intended Beavis and Butthead to be an unsympathetic portrayal in contrast to Hank Hill. Hill is basically good natured, the other two are more inclined to torture cats.
Humans are ridiculous. We stare TV commercials & laugh at farts. Puberty in particular is a stage of impulsive acting-out, experimenting with patently bad-ideas, exercise of poor taste in clumsy attempts to establish our growing individual identity/ vs. how mommy tried to form us.

Aristotle said Drama the drama-masks of Tragedy & Comedy-- arouse "terror and pity". In a Tragedy, we feel terror that our problems might tie us in similar knots to the poor wretch on stage. In Comedy we feel pity for the hopeless cartoon of a character-- who is far-more screwed-up than we could ever be.

In both cases, our attention alternates-- between focus on our own usual me me me inner-monologue-- and focus on the not-us life of the character on stage-- then back to ourselves as we recognize our own folly.

It's normal for kids to be sociopaths, until they stumble into maturity. It's also normal, reflecting back, to misremember our past-selves, as if the person-we-are-now merely inhabited a younger body. We forget how clueless and irresponsible we once were. Beavis & Butthead are like the monkey cage at the zoo. Funny reminders of our not-so-glorious origins.


Beavis gets a nose bleed. Butthead sticks a tampon in his nose.

"I feel fresh."
"Yeah, I feel free."
"Let's go play some tennis."
"Yeah, and let's go horseback riding!"


Spoiler: Bobby Hill is pathetic, too. And he grows up to be a perfectly-good Hank.

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If all blacks were so shaken by the aftershocks of slavery-- that they could-only bear to envision themselves in Saintly images of dignity and uplift-- then only whites-in-blackface would be able to Humanize blacks-- as equal-- fully human-- equally ridiculous-- Just Like Everyone Else.

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Post at WEIT about new Reddit rules. This is interesting:
While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.
I assume this is applied country by country. So how will it be applied in South Africa?

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Another woke douche forced to backtrack on BelieveAllWomen:

Adam Savage of ‘Mythbusters’ allegedly raped sister as a kid

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Service Dog wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:31 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Beavis and Butthead are loveable? More like feckless to the point of sociopathy. Perhaps that's just me not understanding the characters. My impression is that Judge intended Beavis and Butthead to be an unsympathetic portrayal in contrast to Hank Hill. Hill is basically good natured, the other two are more inclined to torture cats.
Humans are ridiculous. We stare TV commercials & laugh at farts. Puberty in particular is a stage of impulsive acting-out, experimenting with patently bad-ideas, exercise of poor taste in clumsy attempts to establish our growing individual identity/ vs. how mommy tried to form us.

Aristotle said Drama the drama-masks of Tragedy & Comedy-- arouse "terror and pity". In a Tragedy, we feel terror that our problems might tie us in similar knots to the poor wretch on stage. In Comedy we feel pity for the hopeless cartoon of a character-- who is far-more screwed-up than we could ever be.

In both cases, our attention alternates-- between focus on our own usual me me me inner-monologue-- and focus on the not-us life of the character on stage-- then back to ourselves as we recognize our own folly.

It's normal for kids to be sociopaths, until they stumble into maturity. It's also normal, reflecting back, to misremember our past-selves, as if the person-we-are-now merely inhabited a younger body. We forget how clueless and irresponsible we once were. Beavis & Butthead are like the monkey cage at the zoo. Funny reminders of our not-so-glorious origins.


Beavis gets a nose bleed. Butthead sticks a tampon in his nose.

"I feel fresh."
"Yeah, I feel free."
"Let's go play some tennis."
"Yeah, and let's go horseback riding!"


Spoiler: Bobby Hill is pathetic, too. And he grows up to be a perfectly-good Hank.

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If all blacks were so shaken by the aftershocks of slavery-- that they could-only bear to envision themselves in Saintly images of dignity and uplift-- then only whites-in-blackface would be able to Humanize blacks-- as equal-- fully human-- equally ridiculous-- Just Like Everyone Else.
I don't think I mis-remember myself that badly, at least not to the point of whitewashing. There are occasions when reflections on my childhood self bring on a cold sweat. Some of the thoughts I had and things I did were not that pleasant. Although I generally loved animals, there were odd occasions in childhood when I got some kind of perverse urge to treat them cruelly. I suspect it stemmed from some kind of need to validate feelings of unworthiness or self-hatred. I don't think it's that uncommon. Probably explains why I am a soft touch when it comes to animals now. Point is that it didn't make me feel good at the time and it definitely wasn't done carelessly without some kind of emotional turmoil. Beavis and Butthead show a complete absence of empathy or self-awareness, in fact the show is at pains to show them blank and almost uncomprehending when the usual cues for such things occur. Hank Hill is more of a sympathetic look at human silliness whereas Beavis and Butthead is a scathing criticism of a certain suburban culture. They are morally stunted cretins growing up in a cultural wasteland and are probably going to stay that way.

Interestingly, the Indian (Asian) understanding seems to be that children are empathetic and caring but grow out of it into adulthood. That may even be the traditional understanding of all cultures where life is hard and uncompromising.

Of course blacks aren't shaken by the aftershocks of slavery, it's pampered white kids who are shaken for them handing out the halos and the recipients are not going to let the accompanying free passes go unused. I can understand the anger and frustration of Americans at seeing their institutions trashed, monuments desecrated and private property violated with near impunity. At least they have a reasonable expectation that sanity will prevail. Now imagine that you have a government enamoured with the CCP way of doing things that wants to implement it's National Democratic Revolution, which is just another term for communist one party state. Imagine that government uses anti-white rhetoric with impunity and implements affirmative action against the interests of a white minority. Imagine that government, having spent 26 years bankrupting the country through corruption, "cadre deployment" of incompetent government lackeys to state run enterprises and general incompetence is now making noises about "resetting the racist economy". Imagine the courts in that country affirming that it is legal to target government aid by race in a circumstance where government has implemented emergency measures putting people out of business or employment. Now imagine that you're a white property owner or renter and some random black people start cutting down your fence, telling you that your time is over now whitey, and the police refuse to act. There is no TV coverage, nobody gives a crap and if news does leak out the government will just waffle the allegations away.

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Driftless wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:59 am
Post at WEIT about new Reddit rules. This is interesting:
While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.
I assume this is applied country by country. So how will it be applied in South Africa?
It won't be.They will most likely defer to the South African Human Rights Commission who have explicitly set the bars at very different heights.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
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Another woke douche forced to backtrack on BelieveAllWomen:

Adam Savage of ‘Mythbusters’ allegedly raped sister as a kid
The "raping blob". Seriously? I think not. Raped by Adam Savage, a particularly unpleasant thing to contemplate. Something about him screams poor personal hygiene.

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fuzzy wrote: White Democrats actually pay black families to make sure there are no fathers. White Democrats like FTP are very very happy that millions of black babies are going to be aborted.
Privileged rich white socialist free thoughtpolice taking a break from his seaside mansion at his mountain retreat. Here he is seen drinking in the clear alpine air while scheming how to abort black babies and break up their families.
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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: The "raping blob".
Lena Dunham.

Wait, what was the question?

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: The "raping blob".
Well, whenever a blob stands next to Rebecca Watson, you're gonna need some adjective to distinguish which is which.

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Bhurzum wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: The "raping blob".
Lena Dunham.

Wait, what was the question?
LENA IS NOT AMUSED.

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Jordan Peterson is back:



He looks older, and tired. He seems relaxed. Before he disappeared he seemed to appear agitated and mad in interviews. Some were with somewhat hostile journalists but it was still difficult to watch. I watched an older talk and it was definitely noticeable that he was more relaxed and laid back. Here he seems closer to the earlier Jordan Peterson.

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Funny moment today, as I overheard a phone call, a model casting guy for a major fashion label talking to executive VP.

The VP was looking at recent photoshoots of models in the brand's clothes-- and she was concerned that the models weren't racially-diverse enough.

Casting guy yelled back at her-- reminding her that the photos were taken at the height of Covid. And the solution they had arrived at-- was to ask the photographers they use-- to submit pictures of the people they already live-with. The photographers with the best looking roommates were hired to use the roommates as models-- so as to not break quarantine.

"You insisted on shooting in Amsterdam! I found you three photographers who live with black guys! And two of them are REALLY BLACK! AFRICAN! I had to look under tulips and windmills to find them! We aren't sleeping here! We're all WOKE! We were already awake-- before all this stuff now! I've worked here 15 years-- I know what I'm doing!"

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Brive1987 wrote:
Zippity is also racist.

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Service Dog wrote: A handy aphorism, which I've been trying to edit-down to bumper-sticker size:

When someone expresses ideas which sound 'racist', that should be treated the same-as saying something which suggests they believe in astrology.

Years ago, I considered discarding every girl on Tinder who made astrology smalltalk. Then I reconsidered and kept fucking them.

A rebel flag hanging in someone's garage is like a zodiac sign tattoo. Might mean something sinister, might not. It's a safe bet to just not care.

Politicians, liberal arts professors, family doctors, cops, virologists, grade school teachers... catch 'em agreeing with something 'racist' or with astrology... that's almost never going to matter. Even in cases where it matters, sorting-for 'racism' won't detect problems. It will lead to pointless, destructive witch hunts and even-dumber anti-racist clown-dogma.
Blacks on Blondes videos also seem to frequently feature a confederate flag. Or so I've been told.

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Brive1987 wrote:
They seem like friendly pups.

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BLM is a Kafka Trap!

Soylent Green Lives Matter!

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Service Dog wrote: Soylent Green Lives Matter!
No lives matter.



Cthulhu fhtagn!

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Driftless wrote:
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Jordan Peterson is back:



He looks older, and tired. He seems relaxed. Before he disappeared he seemed to appear agitated and mad in interviews. Some were with somewhat hostile journalists but it was still difficult to watch. I watched an older talk and it was definitely noticeable that he was more relaxed and laid back. Here he seems closer to the earlier Jordan Peterson.
One thing you can never say about Jordan Peterson is that he has an idealised perspective on life or that he ever denied the potential for misery. His advice, if it can be called that, has always been about doing what one can to make the best of things. The hate mob responded to his fall as if he were L. Ron Hubbard selling the path to Homo Novis. Black and white thinking extremists can't see anything but extremism in others. Perhaps what sets them off most is his insistence on the value of taking responsibility for one's own condition, which is not the same thing as absolving everyone for the wrongs they've done you. It goes against their collectivist and victimhood mentality. Anyway, I'm glad he's getting better and a pre-emptive fuck you to any sanctimonious fools trying the "I hope you've learned from this" line.

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KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Zippity is also racist.
Some people just don't like freedom.

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jugheadnaut wrote: The evolution of the social prohibition against blackface shows what happens when no pushback is given against professional victim activists. Originally the prohibition was just, in that blackface was primarily used in mistrel shows which generally depicted black people as amiable, lazy idiots.
The blackface minstrel show in its 1840-1870 heyday was more often than not abolitionist, and more often sympathetic than mean-spirited. It was not to modern tastes, but was extremely popular for reasons that seem to have little to do with the racism that moderns often assume must have been central.

I just read a rather silly article on the "racist past" of 'O Canada' which wanted us to feel some sort of shame that the composer worked with blackface minstrel shows just after the U.S. Civil war - and completely omitted any mention that the composer had enlisted in the Union side and had been wounded.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Encapsulates the Kulturkampf of the sanctimonious, leftist, doucheousie at WEIT.

The Albigensian Woke signal their holiness and their dedication to the cause by wearing masks. Only cretins demur. Only cretins think they need a gun, but they don't -- guns are just pacifiers for White Fragility.

Internet memes are today's version of the Apostolic Creed -- just repeat them mindlessly. The 'heretics' have their own, of course:
Manichaean Matt strikes again!

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
One thing you can never say about Jordan Peterson is that he has an idealised perspective on life or that he ever denied the potential for misery. His advice, if it can be called that, has always been about doing what one can to make the best of things.
It's curious to wonder if Zeno would be treated the same way as JBP these days. I can't really think of any school of philosophy more opposed to woke values than Stoicism.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Driftless wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:00 pm
Jordan Peterson is back:



He looks older, and tired. He seems relaxed. Before he disappeared he seemed to appear agitated and mad in interviews. Some were with somewhat hostile journalists but it was still difficult to watch. I watched an older talk and it was definitely noticeable that he was more relaxed and laid back. Here he seems closer to the earlier Jordan Peterson.
One thing you can never say about Jordan Peterson is that he has an idealised perspective on life or that he ever denied the potential for misery. His advice, if it can be called that, has always been about doing what one can to make the best of things. The hate mob responded to his fall as if he were L. Ron Hubbard selling the path to Homo Novis. Black and white thinking extremists can't see anything but extremism in others. Perhaps what sets them off most is his insistence on the value of taking responsibility for one's own condition, which is not the same thing as absolving everyone for the wrongs they've done you. It goes against their collectivist and victimhood mentality. Anyway, I'm glad he's getting better and a pre-emptive fuck you to any sanctimonious fools trying the "I hope you've learned from this" line.
His advice to "Go and clean your room!" pisses off the radicals because they know they are acting like children...

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MarcusAu wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Zippity is also racist.
Some people just don't like freedom.
Yeah, because it's expensive - it costs a buck o five.

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Fegg wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote: The evolution of the social prohibition against blackface shows what happens when no pushback is given against professional victim activists. Originally the prohibition was just, in that blackface was primarily used in mistrel shows which generally depicted black people as amiable, lazy idiots.
The blackface minstrel show in its 1840-1870 heyday was more often than not abolitionist, and more often sympathetic than mean-spirited. It was not to modern tastes, but was extremely popular for reasons that seem to have little to do with the racism that moderns often assume must have been central.

I just read a rather silly article on the "racist past" of 'O Canada' which wanted us to feel some sort of shame that the composer worked with blackface minstrel shows just after the U.S. Civil war - and completely omitted any mention that the composer had enlisted in the Union side and had been wounded.

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This is a classic case of anti-racist satire blackface, which I'm surprised is still up on Farttube:


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Oh, and I've heard that the most vilified part of the routine was when MM kissed the darkies.

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screwtape wrote: It's curious to wonder if Zeno would be treated the same way as JBP these days. I can't really think of any school of philosophy more opposed to woke values than Stoicism.
The problem with Zeno was, his arguments never seemed to reach the finish line.

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Lsuoma wrote: Oh, and I've heard that the most vilified part of the routine was when MM kissed the darkies.
It's Daphne's mum Gertrude from Frasier.

"That Bastard Moon, I'll make him eat both his own buttocks"

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Wouldn't have taken a woman with the Twitter handle 'The Science Femme, Woman in Stem' to be a very articulate and passionate anti-identitarian.
Her entire Twitter feed is killing it.

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Looks like Carl Reiner finally caught the big one...


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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
screwtape wrote: It's curious to wonder if Zeno would be treated the same way as JBP these days. I can't really think of any school of philosophy more opposed to woke values than Stoicism.
The problem with Zeno was, his arguments never seemed to reach the finish line.
That's because he was never serious about it: he always did things by halves.

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MarcusAu wrote: Looks like Carl Reiner finally caught the big one...

I think that leaves Mel Brooks and Bob Newhart as the sole surviving comedians of the era. When they go, it will be extra sad because it will feel like the era of funny for funny's sake, socially conscious but non PC comedy has truly ended.

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Maryam Namazie, this is how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

My hope was that @imamofpeace would retweet. I suspect that he may be less inclined to do so now. Perhaps I am wrong, I certainly hope so.


(no I did not actually respond ...)

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A couple days ago I heard an interview on WBAI 99.5 FM-- the radio station is proudly lefty progressive and is stuck in the 1960's, 70's, 80's-- maybe the 1930's--

This interview was with a union guy. From his California voice, I pictured a Beto O'Rourke, but with long greasy hair. And his union is the Writer's Guild of America-- not-exactly Steelworkers. But they are a part of the AFL-CIO. I guess they aren't-just screenwriters-- but also online content writers now, too. So-- the guy made this statement about how the fundamental point of the labor movement is to support working-class people/ and police are contrary to that/ so the Writer's Guild is calling for the largest police union to be ejected from the AFL-CIO. There's some weak 'Code Of Excellence' which the leadership is advocating the cop unions to adopt.

I wasn't sure if kicking out the police union was an empty virtue signal, or if it might hurt the negotiating power of cop unions to make abusive deals. The AFL-CIO leadership rejected the demand-- saying the cops would stay-in. Some other scattered unions have taken action-- the Bus Driver's union says they will no longer transport prisoners for the justice system. That strikes me as legit. Apparently the first police union-- back in like 1890-- tried to join the AFL-- and were rejected because cops were considered to be union-busting tools of The Man.

Another twist is that the AFL-CIO headquarters were smashed-up in the looting, then boarded-up, then painted with big BLACK LIVES MATTER letters.
I don't know if the AFL-CIO are supposedly good-guys for the disinfranchised/ or bad-guys helping cops kill with impunity-- and I don't think they know either.

In addition to greasy-beto, some strident black woman was on the radio show-- and everything she said was in retro-vintage black-power cadence, sprinkled with gratuitious references to the Oversee-ers on plantations and White Supremacy. But she also was careful to say the police unions could still exist-- just not be part of the AFL-CIO: the union people want it both ways: they still want to claim unions are always doubleplusgood/ while also having beef with the cop unions.

About 7% of US workers are still unionized-- so they're always desperate to increase their numbers. Greasy Beto said the BLM protesters are young and fiery and radical and can bring new life to the union movement. Or poison it, if you ask me. He also talked about the Amazon package handlers who spontaneously walked-off & protested their working conditions during Covid. He said the AFL-CIO should have seized on that & helped them much more, and made that a big recruitment win. Yeah, ok, fair enough. But I bet they didnt want to be seen as exploiting Covid to price-gouge for selfish union benefit.

I was left wondering how crappy the AFL-CIO could be-- in response to the members wanting more action in favor of social change-- before Beto & the black revolutionary lady would stop seeing the union as part-of-the-solution, and... y'know.

Another tidbit was the claim that Trump's 2016 win was a wake-up-call for the AFL-CIO. They had lost the traditional aging white blue collar middle-american workers. So the AFL-CIO has since-focused on trying to get those whitey's back. But they've exclusively pursued that winning-back group-- not really making good use of anti-Trump sentiment to win the blacks and immigrants and young people-- into the labor movement.

I don't know how much unions matter, anymore. But at least they have an infrastructure-- a system of membership, establishing policy goals, elected leaders-- a coherent organization-- to develop & make demands... with Some connection to reality. As opposed to formless Antifa CHAZ-mobs & academics & looters & demonstrators with poorly-defined, untested levels of commitment to their cause.

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Democrats loooove to complain about 'private prisons' as-if the state-run prisons are excellent. In reality, the 'private prisons' complaint is a way to signal that prison guard unions won't be challenged by Democrats.

If the unions are serious about improving society-- they should oppose the Teacher's Unions too. Teacher's unions are to the kid's best interest-- what cop unions are to poor people's best interest.

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