The Trump Dump!

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:54 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: Do you remember when you laughed at Alexandr Dugin's call for a genocide of "cretins" in the Ukraine, and called it "Russian humor"?

So when someone on your side explicitly calls for a genocide, it's no big deal. But when one of your favorite Youtubers is banned from some online outlets, it's the first step towards a genocide. :think:
His quote was “Ukraine must be clean of idiots. Genocide of the cretins suggests itself”.

I’d make the same observation of the progressive west. :lol:
"When my side talks about genocide, it's "genociding up". But if one of us is banned fr socisl media, that's genocide, and it's "genociding down" "

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:58 pm

Good trad genocide: suggesting a cleansing of "cretins"

Bad antitrad genocide: someone gets banned from social media

Seems legit.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:29 pm

Kirbmarc wrote: Good trad genocide: suggesting a cleansing of "cretins"

Bad antitrad genocide: someone gets banned from social media

Seems legit.
One item is an absurdity. The other has material impact.

I suspect you don’t know which is which.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:38 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: Good trad genocide: suggesting a cleansing of "cretins"

Bad antitrad genocide: someone gets banned from social media

Seems legit.
One item is an absurdity. The other has material impact.

I suspect you don’t know which is which.
One item is a call for political violence from an influential political thinker who is very close to the authorities of a country which has invaded another.

The other is a social media ban, heavy-handed and counterproductive, but still, just a media ban.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:38 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: Do you remember when you laughed at Alexandr Dugin's call for a genocide of "cretins" in the Ukraine, and called it "Russian humor"?

So when someone on your side explicitly calls for a genocide, it's no big deal. But when one of your favorite Youtubers is banned from some online outlets, it's the first step towards a genocide. :think:
His quote was “Ukraine must be clean of idiots. Genocide of the cretins suggests itself”.

I’d make the same observation of the progressive west. :lol:
"When my side talks about genocide, it's "genociding up". But if one of us is banned fr socisl media, thait's genocide, and it's "genociding down" "
My term (if we want to be accurate and intellectually honest) was a “literal-virtual” genocide.

Which hinted at a self-aware (ironic) nuance which sailed right over your head. :lol:

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:41 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: Good trad genocide: suggesting a cleansing of "cretins"

Bad antitrad genocide: someone gets banned from social media

Seems legit.
One item is an absurdity. The other has material impact.

I suspect you don’t know which is which.
One item is a call for political violence from an influential political thinker who is very close to the authorities of a country which has invaded another.

The other is a social media ban, heavy-handed and counterproductive, but still, just a media ban.
Her Paypal ban and her Airbnb ban were not just “media” bans. Please be more precise in your characterisations.

As far as I’m aware no cretinous Ukrainian was soaped for failing an IQ test. Are the Russians really as literal as the Turks?

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:42 pm

Brive1987 wrote: My term (if we want to be accurate and intellectually honest) was a “literal-virtual” genocide.

Which hinted at a self-aware (ironic) nuance which sailed right over your head. :lol:
"I'm not building a victim complex narrative, I'm being self-aware and ironically nuanced"

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:49 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Her Paypal ban and her Airbnb ban were not just “media” bans. Please be more precise in your characterisations.

As far as I’m aware no cretinous Ukrainian was soaped for failing an IQ test. Are the Russians really as literal as the Turks?
There is no political violence in the Ukraine, no siree, and Dugin hasn't helped to justify it, nope, never happened.

The real humanitarian tragedy is when AirBnB and Paypal banned Faith Goldy. How will she ever recover.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:57 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: My term (if we want to be accurate and intellectually honest) was a “literal-virtual” genocide.

Which hinted at a self-aware (ironic) nuance which sailed right over your head. :lol:
"I'm not building a victim complex narrative, I'm being self-aware and ironically nuanced"

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Exactly. See. That wasn’t so hard. The trick here is spotting apparent tension in the provided terms which suggests layers of meaning.

Something which is “literally virtual” should raise a red flag that it’s not being glibly applied as a BAU term.

Well done.

“During this session you have worked well. With further ...” ;)

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:08 am

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Her Paypal ban and her Airbnb ban were not just “media” bans. Please be more precise in your characterisations.

As far as I’m aware no cretinous Ukrainian was soaped for failing an IQ test. Are the Russians really as literal as the Turks?
There is no political violence in the Ukraine, no siree, and Dugin hasn't helped to justify it, nope, never happened.

The real humanitarian tragedy is when AirBnB and Paypal banned Faith Goldy. How will she ever recover.
I’m not going to apply too much causal weight to a call for cretinous Genocide. I can’t wait to see what happens when Brenton Tarrant‘s mates are intentionally isolated.

Or maybe we can compromise and you can be appalled by liberal fascism and I will tut tut Dugin’s call for egg-head extermination.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:18 am

Brive1987 wrote: I’m not going to apply too much causal weight to a call for cretinous Genocide. I can’t wait to see what happens when Brenton Tarrant‘s mates are intentionally isolated.
Dugin's rhetoric definitely played a role in the Russian involvement in Eastern Ukraine, which has caused widespread political violence. This is not under dispute.
Or maybe we can compromise and you can be appalled by liberal fascism and I will tut tut Dugin’s call for egg-head extermination.
I'm not a fan of the idea of "deplatforming", especially not for political opinions, bad as they might be (a better case could be made for explicit incitement to violence) but comparing it to fascism is moronic. Goldy hasn't had her civil rights curtailed, she was simply banned from private services, i.e. what people on her side want to do to LGBT people in the infamous "cake" brouhaha. I don't think it's a good idea and it has more than a whiff of illiberalism, but it's not even remotely comparable to the effects of Dugin's rhetoric on political violence.

Being excluded from your social circles isn't pleasant, but it's not the same thing as being shot in the face.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:27 am

Brive1987 wrote: Exactly. See. That wasn’t so hard. The trick here is spotting apparent tension in the provided terms which suggests layers of meaning.

Something which is “literally virtual” should raise a red flag that it’s not being glibly applied as a BAU term.

Well done.

“During this session you have worked well. With further ...” ;)
Maybe the meme wasn't explicit enough, but I was pointing out that this is part of your shtick, of the typical motte-and-bailey of the meta-modern alt-right. First you build a deliberately hyperbolic narrative ("the Goldy bans are a prelude to genocide, albeit just a literal virtual one") then, when it's convenient, you go back to claiming that your comments weren't serious, they were nuanced and ironic.

OF COURSE you're not suggesting that Goldy being banned from social media, Paypal and AirBnB is a prelude to a genocide, it was only a way to catch the overly literal, dumb libtards by playing their own game, and you were just talking about a "virtual genocide", i.e. some illiberal banning. How could you be so damn literal, I was just kidding, but with enough truth to support my case :snooty:

Meanwhile, the narrative about the existential threat posed to the "dissident" alt-righters is already being built, while calls for oppression from alt-right figures are minimized. The alt-righters are always the real victims and by criticizing them and their ideas people are subconsciously contributing to their marginalization and oppression.

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Post by Old_ones » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:59 am

Breaking news: Slimy turd Julian Assange was kicked out of the Ecuadorian embassy in part because he literally smeared his own shit on the walls.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/why- ... ge-n993711

:hankey:

I would say this was an excellent audition for a cabinet level position in the Trump administration, but unfortunately there is no federal bureau of sanitation. Maybe Trump will try to get him in at the CIA instead.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:36 am

Kirbmarc wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:27 am
Brive1987 wrote: Exactly. See. That wasn’t so hard. The trick here is spotting apparent tension in the provided terms which suggests layers of meaning.

Something which is “literally virtual” should raise a red flag that it’s not being glibly applied as a BAU term.

Well done.

“During this session you have worked well. With further ...” ;)
Maybe the meme wasn't explicit enough, but I was pointing out that this is part of your shtick, of the typical motte-and-bailey of the meta-modern alt-right. First you build a deliberately hyperbolic narrative ("the Goldy bans are a prelude to genocide, albeit just a literal virtual one") then, when it's convenient, you go back to claiming that your comments weren't serious, they were nuanced and ironic.

OF COURSE you're not suggesting that Goldy being banned from social media, Paypal and AirBnB is a prelude to a genocide, it was only a way to catch the overly literal, dumb libtards by playing their own game, and you were just talking about a "virtual genocide", i.e. some illiberal banning. How could you be so damn literal, I was just kidding, but with enough truth to support my case :snooty:

Meanwhile, the narrative about the existential threat posed to the "dissident" alt-righters is already being built, while calls for oppression from alt-right figures are minimized. The alt-righters are always the real victims and by criticizing them and their ideas people are subconsciously contributing to their marginalization and oppression.
http://i.imgur.com/1aPAW0i.jpg

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:09 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:27 am
Brive1987 wrote: Exactly. See. That wasn’t so hard. The trick here is spotting apparent tension in the provided terms which suggests layers of meaning.

Something which is “literally virtual” should raise a red flag that it’s not being glibly applied as a BAU term.

Well done.

“During this session you have worked well. With further ...” ;)
Maybe the meme wasn't explicit enough, but I was pointing out that this is part of your shtick, of the typical motte-and-bailey of the meta-modern alt-right. First you build a deliberately hyperbolic narrative ("the Goldy bans are a prelude to genocide, albeit just a literal virtual one") then, when it's convenient, you go back to claiming that your comments weren't serious, they were nuanced and ironic.

OF COURSE you're not suggesting that Goldy being banned from social media, Paypal and AirBnB is a prelude to a genocide, it was only a way to catch the overly literal, dumb libtards by playing their own game, and you were just talking about a "virtual genocide", i.e. some illiberal banning. How could you be so damn literal, I was just kidding, but with enough truth to support my case :snooty:

Meanwhile, the narrative about the existential threat posed to the "dissident" alt-righters is already being built, while calls for oppression from alt-right figures are minimized. The alt-righters are always the real victims and by criticizing them and their ideas people are subconsciously contributing to their marginalization and oppression.
http://i.imgur.com/1aPAW0i.jpg
What if I told you that Lauren Southern is a v
literal political camwhore?

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:14 pm

I’d question your credentials as a gentleman.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Brive1987 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:23 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:08 am
Class A study there ol’ Captain

“We argue that political extremists are less tolerant of different groups and opinions than political moderates”

“We discuss how these psychological features of political extremists increase the likelihood of conflict among groups in society.”

:lol:
Nice ignoring of the rest of it. You look directly at the other side of your part of the horseshoe, you see PZ staring at you across the narrow gap.

Weird, I get David French.
I’d be interested in how you hand wave away this consideration of the use of FBI hate crime data for creepy partisan purpose.


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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:46 am

For Trump fans what really matters is owning the libs. Principles, shmrinciples.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:57 am

Brive1987 wrote:
QED

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:13 am



But some people will believe anything they want to believe. Even from the Worst President Ever.

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Post by Sunder » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:11 pm

House Majority leader taking impeachment completely off the table before he's even read the redacted report let alone the full thing is just more proof that the Deep State is out to get Trump by pretending to be too craven and cowardly to pick a fight, thus lulling him into a false sense of security.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Kirbmarc » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:13 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Does this mean that Stormy Daniels is Mary Magdalene? :think:

Perhaps in two thousand years people will chant "wrong, wrong, fake news, covfefe" while they read passages from the Art of Deal.

I think we've finally found a cult dumber than Scientology.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:44 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Does this mean that Stormy Daniels is Mary Magdalene? :think:

Perhaps in two thousand years people will chant "wrong, wrong, fake news, covfefe" while they read passages from the Art of Deal.

I think we've finally found a cult dumber than Scientology.
Hasn't the reconciliation between evangelicals and Trump been a glorious bit of rationalization though? Does it not speak to the poetry of the human mind that it is able the mold a philandering, narcassitic, pathological liar into a near second coming? The absolute beauty of self-delusion, the astounding grandeur of hatred. It doesn't speak very well of us as a species, does it? It would be funny if the consequences weren't so awful.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:47 pm

Sunder wrote: House Majority leader taking impeachment completely off the table before he's even read the redacted report let alone the full thing is just more proof that the Deep State is out to get Trump by pretending to be too craven and cowardly to pick a fight, thus lulling him into a false sense of security.
I do believe that's a calculated move for the 2020 elections. It's best to let him martyr himself, seeing as he's so very good at it. They're afraid of backlash, better to just let his misdeeds get some airplay first.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by Sunder » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:09 am

Nate Silver's being a dipshit again.

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Re: The Trump Dump!

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:17 am

Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
QED
These are the stridently uttered cries of Trumpists desperate for people to accept Barr's version and try to turn the tables. It's utterly pathetic, and worse that some lowlifes would go along with it. Some dumbfucks are even crying "treason," as though the malfeasance in the Mueller report were the playful hijinks of a toddler instead of a damning picture of a crooked president. Not to mention petulant and unstable. I really think it's dawning on some of the Trumpettes that the Mueller report isn't really the president's friend after all.

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