If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Someone educate me on all this Fethez stuff - is it a total wind-up? It sounds hilarious.

It's happened. Myers has finally become an Ayn Rand villain.

debaser71 wrote: Today I'm cynical towards politics. Same pretty much goes for Rachael Maddow.

Fascinating eh?

I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with the self-satisfied, perenially smug Maddow. No siree.

What is it with the PZ lock-step with Watson? It's getting a bit weird. Any time she writes about anything, he follows up with something at Pharyngula.

Some very high quality work here:

http://hatchetmaniac.com/

welch wrote:
Quite literally. She could have been wearing a full suit, and her hijacking still would have sucked.

It does make a difference. It's professional bearing; there is a reason certain people turn themselves out well. I understand not everyone agrees.

If you asked your libertarian friends who defines libertarianism, would they say, "Well there's Buster down at the Army-Surplus store, Randy on his farm, and LuAnne over at her HackHackHackers coffee shop", or would they say, "Friedrich Hayek, Ron Paul, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Ludwig Von Mises, ...

decius wrote:I
To see one's skeptic badge revoked by Drescher, so to speak, on account of one's lack of acquiescence to Watson's disinformation campaign is hardly an acceptable stance.

Fair point.

I think Drescher is just sick of the drama. She hinted last week it should be about the work. That doesn't make her statement acceptable or even coherent. Well, it isn't coherent, but I do think it is acceptable. Drescher is frustrated and irritable about drama carpet-bombing the shit out of the sc...

Really? People accusing Watson of tantrum-throwing and critcizing her for whining, entitlement, and vindictivenes are just "a few assholes"? Color me an asshole then, Barbara Drescher. Actually, by your own assessment, you must be an asshole, too. Because not long ago, when Ron Lindsay got flak for...

It seems to me that this term is virtually always defamation when describing a person. "Len is a rape-apologist" is essentially saying: "Len takes a pro-rape position." "Len is on the side of rapists." "Len believes that the act of rape needs championing." "Len likes to explain why rape victims are...

Is there not a very clear pattern emerging here? SJW's don't like someone with profile. Shortly after, stories of a sexual nature appear about that person.

It's all getting very dreary.

Prediction: Oolon is going to hold out. Right now he's got all the fanatics crowding round to tell him how right he is etc. He probably doesn't think that Len will follow through. But then, I thought PZ would retract. Let's see if my powers of prediction have improved. I'm guessing a lawyer would a...

I wonder how far Caine and the rest will go to establish their victim cred. Not to belittle it if it was true...but it sure seems there's a lot of one-upmanship amongst them to produce the perfect trigger-happy (so to speak) victim. Most folks I would just trust, but I do learn eventually. A transg...

Torture *can* work, but the classic "you have two hours to find the nuke" shit is moronic. If the person your torturing knows they only have to hold out for n hours, they can. Keep in mind, people in vietnam were tortured for YEARS and said nothing. There are people who will hold out for long perio...

I love how neither of you name which woman produces "nothing but drama," but the statement applies to so very, very many people. Naming one isn't really necessary. That statement is evergreen. HAHA! Yeah. I'm pretty sure I knew which woman/womanchild he was talking about this time though. I had a f...

This is pathetic. This woman produces absolutely nothing but drama. One thing after another.

The LorazÃ©pam was meant to lighten withdrawal symptoms. I don't have anymore of those, so no more drugs. I workout 1h30 every two days except on weekends. But right now, I think I'm going to start the flat's makeover. That will keep me busy for a while! The most dangerous depression is not the sev...

I noticed this latest drama with Oolon, and I may be mistaken but I think outside of the initial flush of righteous self-confidence, he appears to be shitting it a little.

Indeed. Tends to carry a lot of highly problematic baggage in its train. As suggested by Pascalâ€™s observation, â€œMen never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.â€ Or from a certainty of being right on other questions and issues. The whole thing remin...

Is Oolon actually a troll, or is he serious? I genuinely cannot tell. He's obtuse in the practiced manner that trolls are.

It was long and rantish, but I'm with you. Quitting playing a game, or doing anything else you enjoy, simply because of the attitude of some of its fans smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face. I forget who said it, but there's wisdom to the idea of not reading the bottom half of the int...

Good lord. That is disgusting. They cannot surely go lower than this. It's revolting.

Before, I just pitied them because they're all losers, but this is abhorrent.

Some armchair advice being chucked about. Here is some more. Well School is for learning. If he is getting good grades then maybe it is not good to rock the boat too much. Take a look at the grades and if they are falling then go to the head and complain. Then you have some data to back yourself up...

Student evaluations - does anyone adult take them seriously? My department once gave them out to a class and I invited them to fill them in. Then I asked the to put them in the circular filing cabinet near the door. Yes, I was being a shit. Yes, I was also being more honest than the other staff who...

Meanwhile, while this wretch is complaining about how bullied, harrassed or whatever she felt: http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/02/us/connecticut-teen-suicide/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Yeah, I'm actually have a problem right now with my younger son and bullying, but not from other students. His teacher seems ...

Cunt of Personality wrote:http://i.imgur.com/TsAzQBC.png

Please do not say 'butthurt' because I sat on a pin once and that word is triggering.

Michael Dorn is as cool as fuck. Flies jetfighter warbirds for a hobby.

That Marina Sirtis sounds like some Essex girl is just delightful.

Linus wrote:
You seriously don't think being born human is a massive advantage? Calling them comrades is a bit silly I'll grant you...

Bloody comooooonists

Great Scott, the FTB commentards are unbelievably dense. Everytime I try and read them, the stupidity is overwhelming. Example:

http://i.imgur.com/PPXbMfd.png

Peezus did state his side of the story. Very publicly. That's, like, the fucking problem.

Thanks all for the tips on layering etc. You might want to read this article , it gives a good rundown of your body's reactions in the cold. One thing I would add, cold can be very deceptive. I was in the mountains in Poland in -20C and was well wrapped up and very comfortable but the exertion hiki...

This is Paul Loebe, right? Is it just silly season at the moment?

Hunt wrote: FtB continues to beat the "there is no such thing as a false rape charge" drum. It wouldn't be so disgusting if it weren't so obvious what their strategy is. Sometimes they remind me of the bugs in "Starship Trooper."

Does RW suck out non-believer's brains?

She should to go to the police and report her rape. The police is free, courtesy of the taxpayer. So all she needs now is the cab fare. I try and be tolerant and listen to different viewpoints, but Jesus wept, she needs to pull her head out of her arse. Her thus-far anonymous source doesn't need a ...

Not in the least. Shermer has been a very serious cyclist for many years. $6,000 is hardly unusual for a good quality road bike. The bike I built myself in 1978 would cost exactly that today adjusted for inflation. Everything on it is original and still works like new 35 years later except for the ...

ERV wrote: Shorter Silverman: "If I just keep sucking up to them, they wont turn on me!"

Lets see-- Nugent, Lindsay, Wachs, Eberhard, who else am I missing?

Does he have some pull? They probably won't if he's useful to them.

curriejean wrote: ... is weird and uncomfortable. Trans* people aren't "our" brothers and sisters, atheists aren't "our" brothers and sisters. They're people who deserve respect as people, whatever their worldview, sexual orientation or identity.

This is what happens when you don't treat people like adults.

I thought that lad Ben absolutely nailed it. The responses to him were just sad.

I do not mind "crude" once in awhile but for me "too much" of it becomes tedious. I find it tends to detract from the argument and after awhile my eyes glaze over, and pretty soon I am falling asleep if not literally, then figuratively. I agree. I think most here are better than that. Don't be what...

Watch the dumb fucks pull out from the last con that'll have them. Generally, people are lionised online. I suspect a large number of those braying about JT are a lot more moderate when they step away from the keyboard. Their discomfort will see them quietly retreat, leaving a hard core of extremis...

Zenspace wrote: We are just seeing what may be the beginning of some very ugly shit.

Desperation.

I think that community is going to implode in less than six months. This is just the beginning.

ERV wrote:NO SLUT SHAMING! UNLESS ITS A DUDE THEN ALL THE SLUT SHAMING!
Biiiiiiiiiiitch.

So it's gone from a disagreement to once again trying to destroy someone's reputation by shit-slinging. These people really are despicable.

ThePrussian wrote:
That's all I can really say. If that's no enough for the price of admission here, fine, no hard feelings, and you're always welcome on board my blog.

I don't think there is a price of admission here. We're all adults.

With there being a lot of accusations against Shermer, no really verifiable facts, I thought this might fill in a bit, at least about who is involved. A post by Driver: Whomever that is, they're still actively dodging the question. With every passing day I'm become more suspicious that this whole a...

That latest PZ post is proper mental. You know, I went through a standard adolescent Rand phase many years ago. Over time and along with many problems with her work, I considered her villains two dimensional and silly. And yet, there is Myers behaving exactly like a Toohey or a Ferris. It's uncanny.

I found this place because of the constant pejorative references from FTb, and I got curious. They are worlds apart. There's obviously some dickheads here, but generally it is a place for grown ups; there is clearly no group-think. It's very obviously the more honest.

JackRayner wrote:
JackRayner wrote:
This was sent to him about 7 hours ago. Shermer's timeline says his last tweet was about 13 hours ago...

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Fuckdammit. My edit button is borked...

Mine has never worked. I assumed it was deliberate.

There's obviously some back story I'm missing. What...what was that website for?

http://i.imgur.com/JBUOWcXl.png

Badger3k wrote: Well, it still hasn't found what it's looking for

:rimshot:

Deo Vacuus wrote:Any speculation on why Peezus is in such a good mood?

I'm guessing completely. Fronting, I think.

As Maria Maltseva remarked, they are people more concerned with scoring politically correct points than being compassionate. It is hilarious that someone can turn up, tick literally all of their boxes and then some, and be immediately silenced because she did not respect their God. Fucking awful peo...

Michael J wrote:\ Now I think that Shermer is not really after the money but wants to hurt and humilate PZ enough that it will scare him and the rest of the SJW crew.

The lawyers will go for the money; and as much of it as possible. That benefits them the most, and also hurts the target.

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:What types were the fighters?

It might be the Commemorative Air Force. They're doing a lot of tours at the moment. Have a google - they have a wonderful fleet. They were here in Pittsburgh in June.

Murphy? The 'journalist' known for waving a plastic cock at some police officers? Isn't Zvan also playing a dangerous game publishing that email?

Maybe it's closer than I had thought. It's probably taking longer than expected to add up all the damages. I hope that's it. My non-lawyer understanding makes it out to be open and shut and PZ having lawyers that would tell him to immediately retract. So that's been dashed, which I understand means...

Saw Elysium. It's not nearly as good as District 9 but I liked it. Too heavy handed with its message, and I don't think an orbiting habitat that large could be constructed and spun fast enough to simulate earth gravity without coming apart, but its dystopian future looked depressingly plausible. I ...

She may have emailed him directly. It still seems fairly evident that Carrie Poppy established the contact and that 'Jane Doe' is not someone who was already a trusted friend of Peezus, as has been suggested by The Horde. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/15/this-is-not-an-update/comme...

...They are just mean, dumb, fucked-up little losers. Well written. One gets a creeping sense of frustration when you see the same statements wheeled out again, and again, and again. I was pleased to see Barbara Drescher wading in like the headmistress and bollocking everyone for being so fucking d...

Linus wrote:Is @PhoebeKwon for real?

Haha, I take it you looked at her timeline?

It just goes to show, as bad as you think some people can get, there is always somebody worse.

uberfeminist wrote:Yikes. I almost feel bad for Sasha. He demonstrates some amount of guilt and then Twitter piles on and accuses him of being even worse than he thought he was.

That's what bullies do. Give a bully what they want, they will simply bully even more.

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