If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

@ franc - The logic goes like this - * If a threat is serious, it warrants reporting * If it doesn't warrant reporting, the target does not think it sufficiently serious * If it's not serious, why is it blogged about ad nauseam? Agree completely. And if their mad computer skills are so OSSIM that th...

Via Benson's Blog of Disingenuous Nonsense: Essentially by NOT throwing out the racists, the sexists, the ones who lie and mislead and are not skeptical at all, theyâ€™ve lost most of the next generation of skeptical organizers. Theyâ€™ve lost volunteers and dues-paying members. In effect, theyâ€™ve...

It's clear from the evidence that WB plagiarized the bullying essays, but, like JackRayner, I'm not sure what Guest expects us to do about it. We're not an NIH study section or a journal editorial board, FFS. I have a different attitude than Phil does about plagiarism (different career path might ex...

How can they claim marginalization when they are the movement? Several of them have platforms every month from which they can advocate for A+theism. Atheism+ Atheism plus Hypocrisy Atheism plus Narcissism Atheism plus Bloghits Atheism plus Worship Atheism plus Lawbreaking Atheism plus dysfunctional...

The A+theists are all up in arms about the Ron Lindsay piece on divisiveness and the secular movement, when in reality, they are the movement. The most outspoken and recognizable proponents of A+ in the atheist blogosphere are the ones who are invited (and can accept) again and again to speak at reg...

@ Steersman- I think there's a distinction between fantasy (Martin, Tolkien, Pratchett, Peake) and science fiction (Asimov, Cherryh, Delany); I prefer the fantasy genre, but I like a lot of science fiction too. To me, Martin's descriptions of the religions of Westeros read as subtle criticism and mo...

Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. Welcome to my fucking recurring nightmare from which there is no awakening. You may have already seen this Slate article â€œRule of Lord: The Republican plan to nullify the courts and establish Christian theocracy.â€ The lead-of...

Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy.

Welcome to my fucking recurring nightmare from which there is no awakening.

(yes my very own) Dumb American in London story from Ye Olde Days: I thought the kids pushing the effigy Guy in the (probably stolen) shopping trolley or pram were cute, so I always gave them money to buy candy or The Beano or whatever. Then a labmate told me not to give the kids money, because they...

Good work. But why advertise this, Justin? You know your detractors are going to try to mess with your new job. (Pardon me if I am underestimating your ability to not give a shit) It is so sad that that would be the case, right? Anyway, I have not listed specifics about the program...and I refuse t...

http://i.imgur.com/cWjVN.jpg?1 From Skepsheik Oh, but that's diversity in the name of carbon offsetting. PZ enjoys guilt-free international travel and monthly flights across the US, while Clarke stays home in the sun-baked desert. Third hottest summer in US history this year ... did I mention that ...

STEM = Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics

Honestly, I could not make this crap up if I tried: Brownian says: September 9, 2012 at 12:58 pm You are not wrong, Beatrice. Itâ€™s time we stop inviting these STEM shitheads to hold forth on culture as if they know a fucking thing beyond coding and chemistry. http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflie...

rayshul wrote:Very interested in this chill girl thing, where women who disagree with A+ are only doing it for male attention.

Oh dear the patriarchy.

Yes, because of course there can be no other reason to disagree with A+, AMIRITE???

Does Jen ever have to do any work in her PhD program? Clearly I chose an inferior program that required teaching assistantships, coursework, journal clubs, and, you know, actual research . Little or no travel. Myers is having an ENVIRONMENTALISM!11!! conversion: Itâ€™s going extinct. Dams and develo...

Or maybe he invites them to visit, but insists that they do not out their connection because that would really make his blogs comments look laughable: Oh look, more of PeeZus's enthralled, grade-seeking students supporting his idiocy; how droll . Anyway, as I say, I find that really odd. Where are ...

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/09/06/pharyngula-is-about-to-add-a-co-blogger/comment-page-1/#comment-449839 PZ Myers 7 September 2012 at 12:32 pm You know what, people? Thereâ€™s no point in arguing over it. This is my blog and Iâ€™ve made the decision. This will in no way change my bl...

rayshul wrote:
The + part of #atheismplus is "crying". How many A+ "leaders" announced they've done almost nothing but cry since they started A+?
via twitter

TRUTH

:lol: The "overthrowing capitalism" tweet is hilarious too.

Interesting that PZ is taking on a co-blogger: Are you ready for this? Chris Clarke now has authorship privileges on Pharyngula. Those of you who know his work will be awestruck. Chris is a phenomenal writer, a true progressive, and a committed environmentalist. Iâ€™d been thinking about bringing in...

So sorry to hear about your grandma, Phil - my condolences to you and your father. We have shirrping crickets here in south-central Texas, but our real noisemakers are the cicadas. Numerous Tibicens species; I grew up hearing T.superbus (Superb Green Cicadas) and T. pruinosus east of here, in Housto...

I want to add an A+ to the Merkin flag in this webcomic.

We didn't start the fire ....

Michael K Gray wrote:Atheism++
Parody, but indistinguishable from the real thing:

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It's only talk ....

It's all Richard Dawkins' fault!!! http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p605/BarnOwlTX/64a2a4fb.png http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/09/receiving-a-daily-flood-of-hatred/#comment-272160 S'okay though - Jen will have time to start writing a book. Because they're all writing books....

I wonder if the remaining FfTBers are planning on stealing Jens blog-earnings too. Hahaha! Nope, of course they'll rally round one of their own, and make it a social justice issue to boot. It doesn't surprise me that Jen and her FfTB supporters refuse to release IPs for the threats and insults. It ...

Again, it seems to me that you must have some idea that atheism has more benefits for the â€œgreatest good for the greatest numberâ€ â€“ for example â€“ than does theism. Hence social justice. Seems that one is kind of joined at the hip with the other. Donâ€™t know if youâ€™ve read The God Delusio...

By flying halfway across the country to do a speech on something you just recreated in a relatively carbon-footprint-free blog post? I went poking around on the Atheism+ forum, and couldn't find anything of substance on environmentalism, climate change, green issues, sustainability, carbon footprin...

I won't link to the post, but apparently PeeZus spoke to the masses at the Ascent of Atheism meeting, with a list of lofty goals for the A+ faithful: I was (once again) making the argument that there had to be more to the atheism movement than just the dictionary definition, and I first made the cas...

In response to Thabo Mophiring's comparison of an organized Atheist movement (assuming Atheism+) to religion, Melody Hensley responds that it's a civil rights movement, like LGBT. https://twitter.com/MelodyHensley/status/242274447279673344 (Sorry I don't know how to embed the Twitter conversation. H...

This comment by Scott Hegarty at the Grauniad is spot on: Atheism+? Sounds like a typical American method of bringing an "underground" group or movement into the mainstream and making it commercially viable. How long before they start charging for membership? How long before they open an A+ store wi...

This part in particular:

since I now live in a city filled with minorities. I noticed after a while that I don't see them at work and I don't see them at meetups, and when I do see them they're never in mixed-race groupings

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From a reply by the Nerd in franc's link: I have had quite an awakening in the past few months, since I now live in a city filled with minorities. I noticed after a while that I don't see them at work and I don't see them at meetups, and when I do see them they're never in mixed-race groupings. When...

racing >> reading

Gah! Damn you, autocorrect!

@ Geoffrey Falk - Thanks for the link and text of the Elizabeth Moon post.

@ rayshul - In racing the blogpost that you linked, I came across this: The withdrawal of their Guest of Honor offer from Elizabeth Moon suggests that, while their definition includes many issues, their definition of feminism is so narrow that only believers in CRT need apply. Do you know why the of...

No comment. http://twitter.com/pzmyers/status/241984992752836608 PZ Myers â€@pzmyers I just had a spicy lunch. You are outmaneuvered! RT @hemantmehta I have @pzmyers right where I want him. *Evil laugh* pic.twitter.com/SNrFc4sB THAT IS A DEATH THREAT! THE FRIENDLY ATHEIST JUST THREATENED PZ MYERS ...

No comment.

http://twitter.com/pzmyers/status/241984992752836608

PZ Myers â€@pzmyers
I just had a spicy lunch. You are outmaneuvered! RT @hemantmehta I have @pzmyers right where I want him. *Evil laugh* pic.twitter.com/SNrFc4sB

Watson, whingeing about her hotel accommodations at DragonCon:

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Rebecca Watson â€@rebeccawatson
There are 3 of us sharing the room. Front desk: "No, all the singles are like that. No doubles left. Oh do u want us to cover it?" UM YES

@ Gumby- Yet these self-styled "repressed victims of the patriarchy" do no work. They don't need to - they live off the donations of women they have brainwashed into feeling similarly 'victimized' by all this supposed male privilege. They fly for free to conferences all over the world, where they ge...

Can't be steed - he's an old white man. Too much privilege. Indeed. No doubt, as did the actor who played him, he went to Eton College (see avatar), but I wonder if he was raised by a lesbian mother and her lover as was Patrick McNee who played him? If it is so, that should surely count to reduce h...

@ The Pelagic Argosy - Not atheism plus social justice issues in general, but plus feminism. This is spot on. Feminism is the sine qua non of A+theism. The rest is just window dressing. There is no way in the fucking world that they would have created this monster on the basis of any other social ju...

Part of me thinks that this is a genuine effort to be more inclusive of the Deaf and hard of hearing communities, and the other part of me thinks it's an elaborate spin job on something they've always done with their podcasts and videos (i.e. providing transcripts). From Greta's blog: And one which ...

And speaking of both knitting AND feminist atheists, I've been wondering for some time now why none of the FC5, FfTBers, or Atheism+ers has mentioned or discussed Barbara G. Walker. She is revered amongst knitters for compiling collections of patterns and design elements and for her books on knittin...

Speaking of schisms, Greta has a new post on Atheismplus and divisiveness: As part of a dispute about feminism, an atheist blogger and local atheist organization leader publicly posted Surly Amyâ€™s address, with photos of the building. Why was that not â€œdivisiveâ€? A female public figure in the ...

franc wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Gumby wrote:The glory that is South Park Gumby.
Ok, put these in one place. There's too many to keep track of -

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Good idea, and done.

I'll stick with owls for my avatar image, though.

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Gumby wrote:The glory that is South Park Gumby.

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Dang, I missed the post apocalyptic urban wasteland background. Please don't tell me that there's a steampunk one that I also missed.

Looks like several of the Atheist+ers will be speaking at the Ascent of Atheism convention in Denver this weekend. Wonder if they'll promote their new social justice movement at the meeting? Maybe they'll identify the non-A+ers and make them wear Douchebag stickers. At least the lineup of speakers l...

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And a lot of hardcore punk is fucking horrible ... some of the reasons for that are described in The Decline of Western Civilization. I have it on good authority that it was instrumental in the decline of the Roman Empire Do they do instrumentals in hardcore punk? It was probably the indecipherable...

From Carrier's increasing WTFuckery: This does not mean you, personally, have to go knocking on doors in ethnic neighborhoods or start attending local NOW meetings. WTF are ethnic neighborhoods ? I've lived in the US most of my life, and I don't know what he's babbling about. Is he referring to neig...

You need a high end stereo, pitch darkness and LSD to really appreciate. There's nothing new under the recreational drug-sun that the Butthole Surfers haven't tried. And a lot of hardcore punk is fucking horrible ... some of the reasons for that are described in The Decline of Western Civilization....

If you're not 100% Marmite+, then you're pro-hunger, pro-obesity, pro-poverty, anti-British, and antipodean.

Marmite+ or GTFO, douchebags.

Marmite and rice cakes are essential components of preparing for the impending zombie apocalypse.

Elderly residents of South Texas and the Border will tell you that holy candles are most important, but I say it's Marmite and rice cakes.

Indeed. You can add it to anything to illustrate why it's so silly. American Atheists+ JREF+ Skeptics+ Skepchicks+ Skeptics Guide to the Universe+ We should change the name of the Slymepit to Freethough blogs plus! FTB+ I'm thinking of starting Slymepit+. It's exactly like this plus you have to lov...

Hipster slacker road trip!

http://paranormalroadtrip.org/

'ere we go: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/08/an-unending-river-of-inspiration/#comment-263411 Ms. Daisy Cutter, Vile Human Being says: August 25, 2012 at 11:21 am Aaaaand of the six comments at this writing, one is from a probable slimepitter , another from some jerk sniffing...

AndrewV69 wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:Where's the mooning smilie when I need one?
You mean the goatse smiley right? right? what? what!!! :moon: is so passÃ©.

Nooooo!!1!!! Goatse smilie ... DO NOT WANT!!1!!1!

:mrgreen:

*sigh* http://store.richarddawkins.net/products/black-a-ceramic-necklace Yup! She sells those necklaces already. Which means she knows damn well that the scarlet A in that font is associated with RDF. And Im sure they have some agreement where RDF/associated charities get a portion of the profits s...

Itâ€™s going to get interesting this weekend: we will have Brownian, Louis, Jen McCreight, and Rebecca Watson on a Google+ hangout on Sunday, 5pm Central time, to talk about the limitations of the current skepticism and atheism movements, and how Third Wave Atheism/Atheism+/Sniny New Atheism should...

http://twitter.com/ShirleyWattson

Parody account? Must be.

Jen's Sneetchesque comment here: But itâ€™s fabulous marketing-wise and as a way to identify yourself as a progressive atheist, or whatever term you want to use. I know Iâ€™d love for people to start wearing A+ pins and Surlyramics so I know who I want to chat with ... summarizes her mechanism for s...

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