If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Top left would, at the corner, include Stalinists like Myers, top right would be fascists, bottom right libertarians, bottom left liberal socialists and anarchists. It's too a pity that there isn't a word for the bottom middle. Centrist Libertarians? Libero-centrists? Anyway it's more or less where...

I don't wanna sound like one of those utilitarian dips who think that any activity which does not generate immediate economic returns is worthless, but it's just a fact that academia does not pay as well as industry and it never will. Even within the sciences, public sector researchers do not make ...

I don't wanna sound like one of those utilitarian dips who think that any activity which does not generate immediate economic returns is worthless, but it's just a fact that academia does not pay as well as industry and it never will. Even within the sciences, public sector researchers do not make ...

Why do we pay a woman who has a Masterâ€™s degree in sociology far less than a man who has an engineering degree, when both have invested the same amount in their education and are working just as hard in an important job? Why do we pay surgeons, pilots, engineers and lawyers more than professors o...

An interesting article about SJWs. Nothing new for this forum, but a great analysis of why they're re authoritarian, and why they're a threat to liberalism.

Fascinating to watch really, I just can't understand how he can have such a high opinion of himself when it is so clear he is a complete tool

It's a well-known cognitive bias.

"[O]n the wrong side of history" The standard BS that has come from wannabe and actual dictators for, well, forever, basically. I believe it was a favorite of the Jacobins, the Bolsheviks, and the Nazis in particular. To be fair almost everyone involved in politics or social activism who wants some...

Peter Hinchcliffe from Atheist Northern Ireland commented on Carrier's post that @secularwoman had blocked them because they asked for evidence of a claim: <snip> Anybody that takes on trust anything Carrier writes is a fool. A very poor form for Carrier, both as a skeptic and as an academic. If yo...

Oh my fucking God, I'm so out of the loop. Had no idea Melody made it into the Daily Mail last year. The brave White Knight Sir Latsot commented on the article: I think it's the other way around. Actual psychologists - as opposed to people like you who decide they are an authority on things they kn...

An article about Expogate, with relevant tweets.

A review of the paper that Steersman linked at: In the paper Adam Croom tries to argue for the case that slurs may have a different referent from what are known in linguistics as their "non-pejorative correlates" (NPC), i.e. slur "wop" NPC "Italian-American". He makes a pretty strong case in arguing...

I'm regularly on Steers side on this shit. Because intent actually matters, and because when you make a word "evil" irrespective of the intent of its usage, then that's super dumb. I don't think that words are "evil". I think that they're defined by their usage in social contexts. People can't read...

Steersman wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:[.tweet][/tweet]

The leader of the Pit is Steersman. :bjarte:
:lol: "The worst of the worst of the worst! Sir!" ;-)

They probably think you're this guy:

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/31371253.jpg

We know that there are malicious assholes out there that will doxx you for the slightest criticism - with the intention of impacting your career as revenge for speaking out, and as a warning to others that they should keep quiet or face the same consequence. Oh, I know that. I just think, like you ...

Not read. Getting - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/books/review/galileos-middle-finger-by-alice-dreger.html Looks interesting. Aratina blames the victim: https://twitter.com/aratina/status/589686718665596928 You'll have to paraphrase whatever was said since Aratina has locked down his Twitter ac...

Aratina blames the victim:

The leader of the Pit is Steersman. :bjarte:

Richard Carrier says April 18, 2015 at 12:43 pm P.S. I should also mention, Nugent thinks Christina Hoff Sommers is a feminist, and per his propaganda letter, is appalled feminists like PZ criticize her. So Nugent might not be the best at actually knowing who or what a feminist is. Dickie has spoke...

As has been made clear, Richard Carrier is not a feminist. As most feminists will tell you, it's not okay to have sex with drunk women when you're in a position of power. Or to cheat on your wife and treat your cheating like it's no big deal. Oh he thinks it's bad when a neo con like Edwina Rogers ...

As has been made clear, Richard Carrier is not a feminist. As most feminists will tell you, it's not okay to have sex with drunk women when you're in a position of power.

Or to cheat on your wife and treat your cheating like it's no big deal.

Somehow pointing out that a lot of his data was collected and provided to him by Slymepitters is me insulting feminists in Atheist Ireland. Thatâ€™s the weirdest attempt to use feminists as a shield against someone pointing out you are using anti-feminist propaganda. God is Carrier a slippery basta...

That's a shit move on Ashley Millers part. It seemed as though she was at least willing to listen to other points of view and there was at least a discussion going on, not a complete waste of time I thought. But to write that open letter, whining that MN responded to Carrier first instead of her is...

A feminist slashes your tires & busts your windshield. You press charges. Feminist says " You care more about tires & windshields than you do about women." It's even worse than that. In your analogy at least you pressed charges against the feminist themselves. it goes more like this: A feminist sla...

Can one of you lurking FtB types explain to me why when you brave SJW types do something like accuse others of rape apology, that's just "tone", and hey, it's fine, but when someone disagrees with your ideology, it's all micro-aggression and harassment? They have the Truth on their side. Also, it's...

Tony, that was trolling in a class by itself. Now, where do you go from here? You've summited Everest. Is this ne plus ultra?

I've had an idea that could even one-up Tony, but I'm keeping it a secret. (PM me for details).

[quote="Kirbmarc But it's one thing to say that there were many different, contradictory and ultimately historically pretty much useless accounts of the life of a Jewish preacher named Jesus (a mainstream position among many historians), and another thing to say he was completely made just like Joh...

What the fuck? I didn't put a cock in there. Damn you Carrier, that's not the right place for your Intellectual Artillery!

Basically there are these positions (quote from RationalWiki, which I know isn't an unbiased source, but is quite on the money on this specific part of the issue : Christ Myth theory (Philosophical myth) (Fringe) "Jesus Christ is a pure mythâ€”that he never had an existence, except as a Messianic id...

So I have serious doubts that his Christ myth work has much merit. And that's before I even consider that his pet theory is on the fringe in the first place, and that his work (much of it self-published) has been altogether ignored by established historians. All the pieces of this puzzle point to R...

Godfrey, wherever you are, please share your review with other SJW pop culture critics like Anita Sarkeesian.

GenderQueer Frequency Godfrey Elfwick reviews movies he hasn't seen. It would be funny if the gig hadn't been done in gaming by the sainted Anita. The BBC's due diligence has always been shitty. All it would have taken was for the producer to look back at your feed. And Tony loves latsot? I always ...

Godfrey:

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:clap: Epic trolling.

rayshul wrote:Is his writing anything like his reviews of his writing? Because honestly I might actually pay for that because it's fucking hilarious.

I could quote some parts to you but I'm afraid Carrier might sue the Pit for copyright infringement. Let's just say that it's pretty smug.

By the way I've read Carrier's chapters of the book and while they're not bad they're not that exceptional, either. He shows that the resurrection of Jesus by basically saying "there are account of miracles in other books that contain some historical truth, says Herodotus's Chronicles [Kirbmarc's no...

Carrier's Intellectual Artillery in a nutshell:

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Carrier reviews The Christian Delusion (Why Faith Fails) : Why It's Awesome Two of The Christian Delusion's fifteen chapters are mine . The first is Why the Resurrection Is Unbelievable, which is t he most definitive refutation of warranted belief in the resurrection I have ever composed. It's a del...

It gets better (personal blog bio) :

Writer of books & articles. Internet Infidel. Natural philosopher. Ph.D. in Greco-Roman intellectual history. Married. Coast Guard veteran. Graduate of Berkeley & Columbia. Not a frog.

One of these things is not like the others.

Richard Carrier is the renowned author of several books including Sense and Goodness without God and Proving History, as well as numerous articles online and in print. His avid readers span the world from Hong Kong to Poland. With a Ph.D. in ancient history from Columbia University, he specializes ...

They seem to think that bloggers are a better authority at verifying the truth of an accusation than the justice system. Well then, it's about time every bloggers who have had enough of Myers and friends start spreading the word about his rape accusation, no? I mean, if we go by their own standards...

They refuse to recognize the idea that you can support the concept of trial by court of law and the principle of being seen as innocent before you are proven guilty, and instead tout the notion that such a support for the rule of law means you are claiming the accused person is innocent. They say t...

Skep tickle wrote:
I found this funny. Apologies for the US-centrism in the image on the right; back story here if it's unfamiliar.

So it's from hippie to libertarian?

(Joke ruined)

That's the main goal of the SJW ideology, by the way: to portray disagreement as evil. Social Justice Warriors are inherently dogmatic and authoritarian but the wrap their authoritarian ideology in a nice bow of "being accepting". They're the mirror image of the Religious Right, which authoritarian ...

So Garry Trudeau, the creator of the strip Doonesbury , is going full SJW on Charlie Hebdo: That we can say whatever we want in the West? Everyone already knows that. So then the question becomes, should we say whatever we want? That, to me, is the crux. Do you hurt people just because you can? Bec...

Dana Hunter wrote:Around the time I was learning about duck sexual assault, I became a feminist (the two may or may not be related).

That explains a lot, actually. If you believe that men are just like ducks, rape culture becomes more believable.

Oh come on. It's about misogynistic mallards, and teaching them not to rape. This is more important than dismantling the petriarchy, the oppression of cats by dogs. How would you teach mallards not to rape? It's in their nature, they literally can't help it. Just kill them all and be done with it. ...

Brilliant stuff from Gefan. PZ thinks all pit satire is shit....so it must be good! http://i.imgur.com/AH49HJG.png lol. SJWs never get anything if it mocks them or their icons. I remember when the SJWs threw Ted Rall, a bleeding-heart liberal if there ever was one, over his cartoons of Obama and ho...

Hunt wrote:I'll just leave this here.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/entequilaes ... ood-fight/

#KillAllMallards

I admit I only skimmed the Compliance post and missed this. To whom it may concern, My wife and I have recently become millionaires, we are child-free and intend to remain so. We are still relatively young (we both turn 40 this year). One of the things we have tasked ourselves with is the creation ...

Not sure if it's a Poe, but: Cancelling a movie is real freedom of speech; showing it is a negation of freedom of speech - Itâ€™s a complete mystery why the university thought it was a good idea to begin with to show the movie at a Friday night event designed to provide alcohol-free fun, entertainme...

a)LIE. I did it once, once is not a habit.

b) She says it's an open medium. CASE CLOSED.

For the record, this is her evidence for my "harassment" of her:

A woman I was dating kept pestering me to do a specific sex act. I didnâ€™t want it at first but eventually I changed my mind.

That was me, actually, not him. I wanted to show the supporters of "Crystal Clear Consent" how fucked up it is.

This leads me to suspect that youâ€™re more concerned with being accused of rape than with whether youâ€™re actually committing rape, which is as creepy as hell. Fuck you, you retarded David Futrelle wannabe. Stick your sleazy "suspect" up your ass, in case you get your head out of it. I'm usually ...

I wrote a long post that didnâ€™t make it through the filter for some reason. Shame, it was an old-skool point by point rebuttal of @Kirbmarcâ€™s nonsense. It bothers me when people are obviously more concerned about whether they might be accused of rape than whether they might be hurting someone. ...

Gunboat's post: No you didnâ€™t mention victims at all in comment #254. After you got called out on it, THEN you bothered to mention them. There are far more rape victims than falsely accused, yet your initial focus was on the falsely accused. That has been a common theme expressed by the apologists...

Onion Head vs. HJ Hornbeck: Nobody asked â€˜whyâ€™ and nobody was making any arguments as to â€˜why.â€™ The stats were presented merely to make the point that there is in fact a fair amount of variation, but nobody asked nor attempted to make any arguments as to why that is the case. So your implica...

A great post from Gunboat Diplomat. It said what I wanted to say, only much better. Gumboot was one of Myers' attack dogs in the early Nugent posts. Shatterface So? I'm praising his specific post this time. I'm not saying he's never fucked up in his life. If he will do something I don't like later ...

I interpret the video as an endorsement & encouragement to continue going back in for getting the shit beat out of you by your boyfriend, over & over & over again all in the name of passion. This is clearly bad (unless you think that all art is expressive and we should not censor certain thoughts t...

A great post from Gunboat Diplomat. It said what I wanted to say, only much better.

Whereâ€™s this idea coming from that law enforcement officials are sooooo much better at dealing with allegations of rape than, say, bloggers? Is this a Poe? Or is she seriously suggesting that random bloggers are better at dealing with crime than the police? I thought SJWs were clueless but this i...

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