If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

https://mobile.twitter.com/NicBoothby/status/1061262530465710080 What a hero. Too bad all the soldiers he was supposed to honor couldn't call off the war due to "bad weather." But I suppose they didn't have to worry about covering their baldness. Couldn't he just have a Secret Service member hold a...

Rex Tillerson is a kleptocratic, corrupt appeaser of authoritarian regimes.

But you gotta hand to him, he was 100% right when he called Trump a fucking moron.

1. When free speech and tolerance of intolerance become the norm you can question the underpinning liberalism. 2. I’m confident that collective based national institutions are under attack. 3. I see no great hope that the modern west offers alien external cultural collectives much incentive for ‘In...

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Trump expects people to forget about anything he said after he's said it.

Banter sails over peoples heads due to the pedantic nature of this place ..... Ho-Hum :whistle: "Banter". "Pedantic". You mean we won't just chuckle along every time you post some shitty little faked image of mixed gender bathroom signs, or a made-up quote? If being pedantic is not spreading lies (...

Back to Trump. He's crumbling.

"Do you want him [Mark Whittaker, the new AG] to reign him Robert Muller?"

"....what a stupid question"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psl7ZVwiRl4

LoL. "And believe me, you don't want to"? Sounds like a threat, like "nice society you have, sure wouldn't want it to turn into a shithole like most Muslim countries, now would you" .... You're thicker than usual if you believe that it was a threat rather than a warning not to go down the Nazi path...

I’m keen to understand how liberalism translates from the conceptual to the pragmatic in this wonderful world we live in. So far I’m less and less impressed as it veers left, authoritarian and towards the SJWs we all detest. I’m keen to understand how this liberalism will confront confident, aggres...

LoL. "And believe me, you don't want to"? Sounds like a threat, like "nice society you have, sure wouldn't want it to turn into a shithole like most Muslim countries, now would you" .... You're thicker than usual if you believe that it was a threat rather than a warning not to go down the Nazi path.

https://twitter.com/HeatherMatarazz/status/1060033845217550337 :o :o :o :lol: :lol: :lol: The funny thing is that if we're talking about "races", O'Rourke, cutesy Hispanic nickname aside, is WhiteyMcWhiterson (a fourth generation Irish-American) and Ted Cruz is a half "Latinx" (Cuban father). So ac...

Andrew V69 wrote: Apparently some people, took it upon themselves : Antifa group chants outside, vandalizes Fox commentator Tucker Carlson's home They need to crack down on that shit. Even assholes like Carlson shouldn't have this happen to them. Arrest them and toss them in jail. They terrorized t...

Then this guy jumps in and explains: https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1060569872273498113 So no bad tactics, just bad targets? Whatever, At least one person is not impressed. Apparently. https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1060623063925035008 I am starting to get a certain vibe that thin...

Trump might not have become president if the woke never existed, but you could also argue that the wokes would not be as politically prominent as they are now if Trump had lost. A boring, milquetoast Clinton administration wouldn't have created any call for a "resistance", and the non-woke leftists...

Before Trump the wokes were looking for white supremacists so hard that they accused Bernie Sanders of being a white supremacist. Bernie Sanders. :twatson: It was probably only a matter of time before they started to accuse Hillary Clinton of being a scheming, selfish "white feminist" or even a POC-...

Trump ennobled their bullshit, though. They can portray themselves as "the resistance" thanks to him. I'm not saying that clickbait and political hot takes didn't exist before Trump. But he has definitely made things worse. "They started it " is an excuse that kids use in playground scuffles. Hell,...

Pitizens defend woman who lies about a man assaulting another woman in clear defiance of video evidence. Wouldn't have called that a year ago. Who's defending Sanders? The point is everyone is now talking about this shit, rather than the Republican losses in the House or Sessions resigning. That wo...

The cherry on top of the whole Acosta brouhaha is that Trump has praised Gianforte bodyslamming a journalist.

You have cause and effect backwards. Trump is capitalising on the existing horribleness of the media. That’s a problem that predated him, as all of us who saw it with the “atheists have a misogyny problem” articles. Trump wouldnt be president if that problem wasn’t already present. Clickbaiters got...

Pitizens defend woman who lies about a man assaulting another woman in clear defiance of video evidence. Wouldn't have called that a year ago. Who's defending Sanders? The point is everyone is now talking about this shit, rather than the Republican losses in the House or Sessions resigning. That wo...

Pitizens defend woman who lies about a man assaulting another woman in clear defiance of video evidence. Wouldn't have called that a year ago. It's OK when Trump Does It. Of course Trump is using the same language of the SocJus for his political goals. This should give anyone some pause. Trump supp...

You have cause and effect backwards. Trump is capitalising on the existing horribleness of the media. That’s a problem that predated him, as all of us who saw it with the “atheists have a misogyny problem” articles. Trump wouldnt be president if that problem wasn’t already present. Clickbaiters got...

https://twitter.com/presssec/status/1060335251682222085?s=21 Forming a circle with the waggons begins... Trump has an amazing ability to get the media to talk about unimportant things. If the media was actually competent, they'd ignore this shit and actually do their jobs. Of course, if the media w...

The elections went more or less as the polls predicted: a GOP Senate and a Democratic House. The Dems also did well in terms of Governor races. Trump is likely going to have a hard time dealing with increased scrutiny from house committees. He's also likely going to fell emboldened by the Senate gai...

1. You are creating too heavy a divide between Islam the religion and Islamic aligned culture. Under the right amount of social pressure, and in absence of institutional constraints, cultures change and mix. Religion, and especially organized, institutional religion, are a big constraint. 2. Islami...

Incidentally one of the reasons why the religious right wing is so eager to blame the issues of immigration and integration onto ancestry or "culture" is to continue promoting its own pandering to conservative theocrats. It's hard to talk about the true issues of islam when you're also defending peo...

There are plenty of Christian Arabs in the "west". They have the same ethnicity and more or less the same culture of Muslim Arabs. And yet Christian Arabs have more or less integrated so well that they're seen just as slightly "ethnic" white guys. Ralph Nader is a second-generation Christian Arab. S...

As long as it’s not “too little Locke”. And maybe add in why this problem should be “our” problem to solve. An ounce of prevention ... and all that. No, it's not "too little Locke". It's "Salafi clerics and institutions" combined with "isolated, ghettoized communities". Young people are gregarious ...

Kirb needs to get some more Kaufmann into him. This is why the liberal wet-left need to STFU. Kaufmann and other scholars have noted that religious immigrants and their offspring are often very resistant to secularization and there is some social science research indicating that the children of imm...

FTFY .. has tended to attract folks who aggressively shill left-liberalism in general, rather than focusing tightly on the excesses of callout culture There are converging causes behind the contemporary pressures to pick a side. The Pit shone in a bubble devoid of these drivers. Criticizing your sa...

free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ A billboard in St. Louis. The cult of covfefe hath spoke.
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Yet another good reason to be an atheist. :twatson:

And now a word from Richard Dawkins . . . https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1059448979891609600 The evidence for Trump being a liar on a level beyond that of his fellow politicians, Democrats and Republicans, is clearly shown by this infographic: http://i.imgur.com/gpQwRyI.jpg But just in c...

And now a word from Richard Dawkins . . . https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1059448979891609600 The evidence for Trump being a liar on a level beyond that of his fellow politicians, Democrats and Republicans, is clearly shown by this infographic: http://i.imgur.com/gpQwRyI.jpg But just in c...

:lol: :lol: :lol: Guest has a point though. Building pit membership around "Intersectional social justice keyboard warriors in muh atheism!" has tended to attract folks who oppose left-liberalism in general, rather than focusing tightly on the excesses of callout culture. Sam Harris and some of his...

There are always weirdos, odd ones, people who look for attention, and assorted basket cases who want to be relevant for little to no reason. Attention isn't good for them. At best they end up getting the idea that their problems will be solved by becoming famous, while being on the spotlight actual...

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Hee hee. It's okay when he does it, though.

What a snowflake. There are Tumblrinas who are less self-obsessed.

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Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:12 am
Those little walls of text are getting bigger and bigger by the post ... Brive, you've unleashed the beast again haven't you. :?

Not everything can be argued in 280 characters or less.

[A 60,000 words essay about why long arguments are sometimes necessary will be uploaded shortly]

Your you can’t replace something that doesn’t exist, but if you do it’s racism line is fairy thought. The concept of culture is lost on you. No doubt you see no difference in kind between strong (and weaker) European cultural alignment and the ‘alignment’ we have with Asia. Meh. Cultures change wit...

Yet three arrows really can’t understand a ‘great replacement’ theory (and concerns) which don’t involve racist right-wing conspiracy. And neither can certain people here. Perhaps this is because there's no "great replacement" theory that isn't about racist right-wing ideas, either based on explici...

I'd forgotten about Brive's BFF. While I certainly don't condone socking on the pit, I do have to admit it illustrated some people's positions nicely. I have to wonder what's Brive's stance on jews. Most alt-lite seem to think they're nearly human, But not course alt is a spectrum. Now, now, I'm pr...

:lol: :lol: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 You have gone toe to toe with SJWs The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was wh...

The objective fact is that only one board member has been suspended for an unacceptable approach to this debate. Consider that before you ‘white knight” the ‘pit. When it was done to the Atheism Plus forum, or to FTB, it was called "trolling FTW". I accept that people are more testy when it's done ...

Since when was Trump meant to be a life long conviction ideologue? Even if such a thing existed in Washington. He had a job to exploit the system for personal gain. Because in New York “greed is good”. Viva capitalism. Now he’s got a job to fix the system for national gain. “Yankee Doodle Dandy”. T...

Shit. Wrong video. :lol: Here's the Reagan-Bush debate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmgPp_nlok The non Trump GOP loves cheap labour. It’s why there will never be a wall. Probably. Still, some of the arguments they make about immigration between the US and Mexico being necessary to soften the b...

Plus Carrier is a self-righteous narcissist who can't stand the idea of even being accused of any improper behavior.

I'm sure this has been shown here before. It's Carrier's version of the court case from a few months back. I post the link direct since I'm not averse to giving him some traffic. If you disagree, well, don't click it: https://www.richardcarrier.info/fairtrial.html He's a strange little chap, but I'...

We could probably all do with a refresher of Jonathan Haidt's work. Peterson is also trying to address the underlying problem. The political disagreements come down to differences in our moral axioms. Fundamentally, yes. Conservative people tend to be more interested in Loyalty, Authority and Sanct...

Shit. Wrong video. :lol: Here's the Reagan-Bush debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmgPp_nlok

Also the discourse about immigration in the US has changed. Here's a video of Ronald Reagan and George Bush sr. (not exactly liberals, to say the least) discussing immigration in 1980: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=334&v=yt8ybyLn81w Someone in the alt-right would call them "lib-tards",...

Where were you when Kirb was writing his walls of text up-thread? You’ve always been very selective mandating who gets a say on given topics. :lol: If the Pit closes, team CFB-FTP-Kirb will get a dedicated chapter labeled “Applied toxicity”. You continue posting your political stances here, forcing...

Or do you trace the actions of the fake-bomber and the wacko trump hating anti-Semite to broad-based republican calls for civil action? That would be a new take. I think that it's reasonable to trace him to paranoid scare-mongering about conspiracies to "replace white people", which is a common the...

This should elevate the mood here. http://archive.is/K4vOD PZ writes: One other thing I’m going to be missing is the start of our big legal fundraiser. Skepticon will be putting out a call later today, as will The Orbit, because we just got a big bill from our lawyer, and let me tell you, my heart ...

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: ↑ Did...did the Pit die?

It's resting. Pining for the Shermans.

The right is FUBAR, because it's little more than identitarian scaremongering, cult of personality, angry rants, memes to "tribber libs" and deals with corporate cronies. The left is also pretty fucked up because of the SocJus and the neoliberal corporate cronyism, but at least beyond the idiotic "c...

"Wokeness" is also used in politics as a substitute for actual political content. No need to tackle wage issues, or healthcare, if you can signal hard enough how virtuous you are. You can make shady deals with corporate powers and still present yourself as a "leftist" as long as you speak the right ...

Corporate media are often "woke" because "wokeness" attracts attention, and because, let's face it, lots of "woke studies" graduates become journalists. Journalism is one of the best careers you can get with a humanity/communication/woke degree, and today the clickbait model has allowed many outrage...

What I’m seeing is a weird fusion of authoritarianism within elite social thinking, media vehicles, mainstream political structures and commercial trusts. All operating within our alleged liberal democracy. Parse that as you will. PZ is a burning example of a secular-liberal transitioning to this h...

Oh, and by the way, saying that Communism comes from "Jewish tradition" is downright retarded. Karl Marx might have been ethnically Jewish, but he based his theories on the experiences on movements which originated from the left-wing side of the French revolution . Indeed the word "communist" to des...

This is the guy that went to Australia with Lauren Southern and was triggered by the Berenstain Bears:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqn2C3BVsAEHnnk.jpg

Meh. Nothing to see here. Probably alt-lite. :think:

Fuck it I'm drunk.

The Shirtless Socrates called this right before the arrest. The bomber is a libtard that is going overboard trying to pretend to be a MAGAT. Golly he is smart. The deep state and libtard cuck cabal can't trick him. :twatson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLpelK3ZsbE No, see, the only one who can ...

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