If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Could someone post the Cliff Notes version of what happened to ERV, & maybe a linkie or pointer to some more info somewhere? I'm not sure whether you're referring specifically to ERV's (Abbie's) problems with Laden, or just a chronology of the things that have happened on the old ERV that the slyme...

I just got done reading Matt's comments in that lousy canuck post, and all he's saying is sounding strangely familiar. Mostly because it's what the slime pit has been saying about not just A+, but FtB, since summer 2011. At one point it even sounded like Dillahunty is leaning towards admiting that w...

That's quite a threat, there. If you don't be quiet, I'll send someone to find you. I never know the point at which you should probably contact the police, but given what happened to ERV it miiiight be something you'd want to think about. And her brain isn't even damaged by testosterone. So what's ...

Who's "the missus"? His wife Beth. She's has a feminst/atheist, A+esque podcast called Godless Bitches. Judging by the comments she's made over the past year and a half she sides with the FtB/A+ crowd completely, on just about everything from EG to Schrodinger's Rapist to harassment policies to pat...

Post #18 at http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2012/10/08/thats-fucking-effective-bitch-to-you/ , SZ suggests she coulda woulda told LeftSidePositive "where I live". (I had said to LSP that Stephanie & Josh could probably tell LSP where he/she could find me.) Actually, Eliza, you were very ...

Clicking on the link so handily provided takes us to: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Atheism%20Plus This one may be worth a screen shot or whatever y'all do to get those image files, unless it's already been posted here and I missed that particular post. I'll just quote the entry (a...

decius and real horror show, why don't you two take it to PMs, or maybe even coffee in an elevator. It's getting boring. Are you saying that they should get a room? Just asking. OK I am going to get my coat now. I was waiting for the makeup sex to start, that would have been totally hot. Homeless i...

LMU wrote:Why do you think there is just one Poe moderator? Didn't you all make Poe accounts there too?

If I hadn't been around for it's inception, it wouldn't take much to convince me that A+ itself was one big Poe.

I'm kinda hoping the A+mole doesn't revel him or her (or zir? :? ) self for some time, and they don't figure it out until after they've torn apart the forum frantically looking for the spy.

JAB wrote: Guys! Don't do all the work for them! we want them all to be doubting each other!

Agreed, let them sweat it out and bicker amongst themselves about who the traitor is. The whole forum might collapse in on itself in the process.

Anyway, with regard to the apparent turn against A+ by people thought to be "on message", folk like Rebecca Watson and PZ were never really supporters of it anyway. I got the impression that RW wasn't too keen on it because Blaghag and others were the main figures involved and she wasn't the centre...

It should be noted that Carrier has done a good job keeping his mouth shut since his initial word-vomit. Not in the least bit true. He imperiously replied to an accurate calm poster just this morning. (And keeps responding on his comment threads. I have that thread on RSS feed, and regularly have t...

Too late! In a pre-emptive strike the A+theists may have decided (haven't read it all yet) that they don't need atheism! To which my response would be: "Good, can the grown ups have it back now?" Julian (who started the thread) claims he was joking, http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t...

OK, here it is. I think I've wiped any names that would get him in trouble. My friend, who forwarded this, says he recieved the email last Friday. I was in contact with him today and mentioned something from this site and he immediately said I "had to see this". I don't know the mod in question, hi...

http://i47.tinypic.com/bdwsva.jpg Now, I freely admit that not many people want to notice something like that. But masturbating or not, it does seem that Jen McCreight shares the same disdain for homeless men that Ophelia "I can't believe I had to sit near a smelly homeless guy on the bus" Benson d...

On another note and something that was somehow discussed by Skeptickle: do these people do real activism besides the navel gazing and the cashing-in on "preaching to the choir" conferences? It seems that all they do is sign e-petitions and raise like three bucks to send people to conferences. Let's...

ROFLMAO! Oh, entirely too good. It seems those who were all for A+ are waiting for it to die: https://twitter.com/justintempler/status/255721806642683905 Wow - when even Rhys Morgan thinks it's less than a gosh-kapow great idea, you know it's in trouble... Rhys' main problem appeared to be the call...

ReneeHendricks wrote:ROFLMAO! Oh, entirely too good. It seems those who were all for A+ are waiting for it to die:

Does this mean I should already start nailing up the 'Mission Accomplished' banner, or should I wait so not to jinx it?

It's fun to see Matt's own past A+ apologetics thrown back at him,

Peezus and O do Matt Dillahunty! :D http://i.imgur.com/mt4YD.jpg It should be noted that Carrier has done a good job keeping his mouth shut since his initial word-vomit. However, that first post on A+ was enough to associate his name with the worst of the plussers for a long time to come (probably ...

At least we finally get a summary of why A+ is necessary for the atheist community: Re: Question on Language. Postby Sun Countess Â» Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:20 pm A+ struck me with a bit of suprise. I do not see the conection between atheism and feminism, or better put I do not see how one of them is dep...

I've noticed that 'Rage Tears' Josh is big on dishing out vitriol in comments and piling abuse on anyone who dares challenge their echo chamber, but his threats are about as empty as his head. The dude sounds like in real life he would have a panic attack if a moth came within two miles of him. I'm...

I just re-read that Justin Griffin thread and some of the comments. It reminded me why I really like Justin Griffith and why I really fucking dislike the commenters. The incredibly lack of self-awareness from people like "Josh, Official Spokesgay" and "julian francisco" and the way they always have...

I can't believe they're losing any incredible insights (or even A+ level navel-gazing insights) by kicking the cunt to the curb. But they would be losing a prominent cheerleader, with a very wide audience base and quite the following in the a/s community (though this last part may have been somewha...

Yeah, I'm not completely sure where noel was coming from with that. As I see it, Curious was very quickly dismissed even as an anon, as evident by the fact that his first comment was deleted. Despite not knowing a thing about his 'privilege status' at the time, he was piled on for daring to voice d...

Noticed Greg Laden talking about harassment. The hypocritical shitstain. http://i.imgur.com/3MYX4.jpg You couldn't make it up! I thought about making a joke about Laden, but the amount of shit that this guy still spews after all the crap he's pulled is just not funny. So instead here's the full ori...

From Surly Amy's thread I posted in: http://i.imgur.com/9YEPW.jpg Is this a poe? No way to know for sure unless the person steps forward to admit it. The call to put arguments aside sounds like it could be poking fun at them, however this is the same side that ran with Matt's 'facts don't matter' g...

Speaking of time, according to amazon PZ's book is supposed to be due out in a mere three months. Yet, the info doesn't appear to have been updated in over a year (and the release date being Jan. 1st sounds more like a placeholder to me). Didn't he take time off from work this year to write this thi...

welch wrote:Also, WTF is this need from the FC5 to constantly post about how they're too busy to post?

Because being internet social warriors is time consuming.

Oh geez. http://twitter.com/jennifurret/status/255369626253410304 She's so sick of the drama she can't help but add on more commentary to the drama. You know, Jen, when I loudly announce that I've quit something I don't usually keep hanging around, continuing to shout at the other participants from...

noelplum99 weighs in on Matt Dillahunty's banning from A+theism forum (note the surlyramic around matt's neck in the screencap :lol: ), zX65hlHKEQg I just finished watching that... I think Noel has some good points and ideas, but I'm not sure if I buy the theory that the A+ers are pissed because in...

Anyone is welcome to think of me as a potential rapist, and they are also welcome to remove themselves from my company if they feel so threatened. Agreed. If you really think there is a high chance I'm a rapist then you can get as far away from me as you need to in order to feel safe, just don't ex...

noelplum99 weighs in on Matt Dillahunty's banning from A+theism forum (note the surlyramic around matt's neck in the screencap :lol: ),

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http://i.imgur.com/7U9yE.jpg But if you know that you're not a rapist, and know that you have no intention to rape anyone, why would you agree to call yourself a potential rapist? Even if you want to argue that women (and men) will think of you as a 'potential rapist' because they don't have access...

Your comment prompted more to the tune that she's a drunk, allegedly. I was responding to those. Not that I consider any comment dissecting her lifestyle or private sphere, such as yours, as interesting or helpful, mind you. I don't read tabloids, and can't understand those who do, either. I didn't...

Your comment prompted more to the tune that she's a drunk, allegedly. I was responding to those. Not that I consider any comment dissecting her lifestyle or private sphere, such as yours, as interesting or helpful, mind you. I don't read tabloids, and can't understand those who do, either. I didn't...

Mabus really shouldn't be talking about people getting arrested, on account that he's the only one here that's violating a court order by posting on an online forum. And don't give me that 'Not Mabus, but a fan' crap. Mabus has no fans or friends or anything else.

Oh, and about the drinking, the comment I made a page back that might have started this topic wasn't about bemoaning the evils of alcohol. What I said was this, Just so we get things straight here, we're being lectured to about all of our undeserved privileges by someone whose 'job' allows for her t...

I thought Lsuoma gave Mabus his own thread.

Amy has decided NOW that anyone can use her images. Thoughts please. http://skepchick.org/2012/10/free-the-art/ My thoughts? I *still* won't buy her crap. I wish she would stop referring to it as her "art" like it's a Turner seascape or something. It's varnished clay on a string. My girlfriend used...

I have decided to do something that I hope can set the stage, to not only make things right, but to make the internet a better place . Really? How does taking part in a practice which everyone on the internet (except you) was already well aware of qualify as some kind of innovative milestone on you...

Ed Clint from Skeptic Inc Network had an interview with Oklahoma Atheists Godcast. The topic is mainly about SIN and atheist blogging, but references to the behavior of FtB and A+ are made throughout as Ed doesn't appear to be a fan of either.

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Actually, steffy point-blank DEFENDED Laden's actions, because you know, he'd been "pushed too far, he just had to lash out." Really. It's like when you're at a party and the one ho be all flashing you booty and rubbin' her tits on you. At some point, it's just too much and you gots to show that gi...

Notice how Stefunny still slithers around the issue of defending Greg Laden when by all accounts she shouldn't be? He's done most things allegedly done by Justin Vacula and worse, yet he all gets from her is a big, wet kiss. He gets to doc-drop, stalk and threaten people and not so much as a peep, ...

Just so we get things straight here, we're being lectured to about all of our undeserved privileges by someone whose 'job' allows for her to travel the country and get shit-faced drunk, and brag about it incessantly. Makes me wonder if Elevator Guy's flying rape attempt was more in the line of "It'...

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p605/BarnOwlTX/ScreenShot2012-10-07at70714PM_zps05f36d98.png I've known several people just as proud of their falling-down, barfing-all-over-the-bed-before-passing-out-in-it alcoholism as Rebecca. Been to a few of their funerals, in fact. Just so we get things st...

Funny tweet and so true,

Nuclear Wynter wrote:But if just Matt Dillahunty can do "deep damage" & cause these emotional reactions, they dont have the skin for social justice

Regarding 'Draw Mohammad Day' - as to what the FfTBers general view on this remains, as far as I'm aware, debatable. I recall some kerfuffle a while back on Pharyngula about how DMD had been hijacked by racists, and that proper, decent atheists like themselves shouldn't participate in it because of...

Random thought: what's with Ophelia's twitter pic, https://twitter.com/OpheliaBenson

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Are the FC5 abandoning porcupines in favor of pineapples?

Saint N. wrote:Reap, awesome podcast with Justin that needs to be advertised,

http://www.reapsowradio.com/?p=31213

Loved the rant at the beginning. I wish PZ et al would actually hear it.

EDIT: I meant about Justin. My bad for the confusion, I'm typing between late shifts again.

Reap, awesome podcast with Justin that needs to be advertised,

http://www.reapsowradio.com/?p=31213

Loved the rant at the beginning. I wish PZ et al would actually hear it.

the reason we mods did delay on enforcing the ban, was because Matt PMed one of our mods and told us that Greta had asked both sides to agree to wait until she had a chance to talk to the moderation team. Why would they need to consult with Greta to referee this one? If they're saying that Matt bro...

In other news, Joe addresses Lousy Canuck Joe's making some decent points. He's also apparently smoking some decent shit. The maniacal laughter is a dead give away for that, isn't it :D Well TBH I'm feeling shitty for my error of judgement. I trust Lsuoma to do what's best. Sorry to all of you -- a...

Rather than ban, why not just replace the personal details of a doxxing post with asterisks - but keep the essential content (such as it is) of the post there? Seems a fair compromise to me. I second this option, if votes are being counted that is. In other news, Joe addresses Lousy Canuck [youtube...

When I first came here, I said that part of me thought that "[t]his will only end badly." And, not even a month later, it already has. The truth is, I'm crying as I write this. Maybe some of you will think that's silly or over dramatic. But online interactions are just as meaningful and important a...

Justicar made a video talking about this very issue today/yesterday (depending on time zone), you might be interested in,

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There is a guest piece up at the friendly atheist site that talks about drama in the atheist community, http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/10/05/dealing-with-drama-and-burnout-in-the-atheist-movement/ There is nothing controversial in it, and the writer stays away from condemning any ...

If Ophelia had tried to talk crap to Dawkins about his intro to the Jesus & Mo comic, he could have brought back this summer classic,

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C'mon people, don't let this meme die young!

Let me give you two sentences: 1.) "I choose not to use certain words because I don't feel comfortable saying them." 2.) "You are not allowed to say certain words because I don't feel comfortable hearing them." Can you spot the difference between these two statements? Because if you can't I don't s...

So far other than assume I'm disingenuous and trying to prove you all racist-misogynist-kitten-eaters I've not seen a lot in way of explanation . Ask yourself what would I gain by proving you lot are homophobes? Racists? Misogynists? FtB-Skepchick hyperbole says this already! I'm probably assumed t...

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