If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

There was a time, about two years ago, when I would have thought someone like Matt Dilahunty could have been able to at least see the points Thunderf00t was making (even if he disagreed). But that Matt seems to be long gone: https://twitter.com/Matt_Dillahunty/status/223875976696827904 This Matt Dil...

Can't believe Ashley's comments. I just posted the other fucking day here about people beleiving in the magic of harrassment policies. What the FUCK, I can't believe this is Actually A Fucking Thing. What I still can't grasp about this whole anti-harassment policy thing is that there already a nati...

I hope the FC5 and Watson never manages to take AngrySkepchick off of twitter:

So, who will be (or should be named) next witch of the week? I surprised it still hasn't been you Justin. You're not some anonymous guy posting on a comment thread, you're an active member of an atheist organization, and you're willing to show your face in the slyme pit without reservation. Plus Op...

Is this Blue Collar Atheist guy talking about us when he made this comment: http://freethoughtblogs.com/bluecollara ... ment-26191

Because I'm not feeling the love (unless he's being sarcastic).

I just noticed there were over 100 registered members on this forum. Relevant word being "were": I've just deleted a bunch of known spam registrations (I use stopforumspam.com for data.) And thanks for the thanks, BTW... I was just about to ask whether my eyes had deceived me when I first wrote tha...

Man, twitter is really becoming the deathblow to the FTBullies crap:

I feel like the ridicule against the FC5 has gone into high gear as of late. Surprised it took this long, but I'm glad it's finally happening.

lol at the last bullet:

From vjack at atheistrev: There is no question that some of those complaining about FtB's bullying are upset by their feminist positions. But it does not follow that everyone complaining is necessarily anti-feminist. This. This a million times over. Finally someone on there side actually gets what w...

Fuck that, everyone here is getting proper hearty bear-hug-style pats-on-the-backs! The sort that would make an Aussie proud. Fine, as long as there is no coffee involved. That shit's deadly, I hear. I don't know if it's been linked to already here (I don't see it), but Russell has a neat post on t...

Not to derail any serious conversation going on, but I just noticed there were over 100 registered members on this forum. I know numbers don't mean anything when it comes to substance, however considering that this place is only a little over a week old and we've practically had little to no endorse...

Are they honestly able to continue to believe that it is just a handful of people from ERV that have issues with them? Yes, because as long as they believe that they can safely keep up their delusion amongst themselves. Kinda like how some theists pretend that deep down all atheists really know tha...

I think "Problem?" needs to become the next "You mad, Bro." So spread the meme far and wide fellow denizens.

Ed Brayton

Lousy Canuck

Ophelia

Benson was specifically asked to condemn laden on the thread that justin nuked....... Her hypocracy was pointed out to her, and if i recall it was said to her that she wouldn't blog about it, guess what blackhole benson disregards, justin shouldn't have nuked that thread. But when benson gets her f...

Let's be honest, even if you dislike Dawkins (for whatever reasons) you can't deny that his name did a lot to add to the momentum of the atheist/skeptic movement. If I was him, I'd be annoyed as hell that something I gave so much time and attention to was being torn apart by petty quarrels promoted ...

Richard: Problem?

Dawkins responding like a boss! :lol:

Er, Newbie to all this here, but just wanted to point out that the link is a year old. Yet, Dawkins' isn't. Hmm...that leads to the question is Dawkins unknowingly making a mistake by linking to an old article he thought was recent, or is he trying to point out the change in "hug-me" policy...hmm h...

"We were never at war with Eurasia..."

Does Ophelia understand that the things she says on the internet don't disappear just because she really, really, want them to? It's not a wormhole, it's cyberspace.

In case anyone missed it, Notung has a good post on general freethought etiquette: http://notungblog.wordpress.com/2012/07/08/advice-for-a-freethought-blog/ And a followup post on how PZ Myers frames comments to conform to his narrative: http://notungblog.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/follow-up-to-my-las...

"Dear Steflima..."

No offense guys, but its why I closed these threads-- I could pick up all my toys and move networks and we could say anything we wanted... or I could stick with NatGeo, play The Game so Laden/Zvans (Im also assuming Myers) treachery isnt effective, and keep educating people about science at NatGeo....

Lsuoma wrote:See Abbie's post upthread - he's doing it solely for the filthy lucre...

This makes me regret linking to his blog earlier.

Oh, and now that Abbie has officially joined up the Slyme Pit, I think this place can be deemed SlimePit certified. We have come full circle, people 8-)

Why is PZ still on scienceblogs if he's practically running his own network on FtB? Couldn't he post science related stuff on FtB? Isn't that his field of expertise, after all?

*Edit: that should read, "I don't know much about about PZ's science articles..."

I don't much about PZ's science articles (I see so few nowadays), but he did weight in briefly on Paula Kirby, declared that her detailed essay calling out FtB makes no sense, and linked to other bloggers to explain why.

link: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ula-kirby/

Maria (Bluharmony) also raised some very good points. She has been badly victimized by the horde. Agreed. I was somewhat annoyed when Jean Kazez told her to refrain from airing out her grievances, because I don't think anyone at FtB (that includes their defenders) has ever given a decent justificat...

Maybe Russell would be willing to fill in the comments a bit more here? I doubt it considering what he said about blogs with bad werdz. Yeah, he's been pretty consistent about not wanting to affiliate with things like that, so to each his own, I guess. He isn't backing down/giving in to the FTBulli...

Since it's only twenty minutes you probably don't want to spend too much time talking about the history of atheism (it might take too long to parcel through all the different developments through the centuries, and if they are really interested they'll probably ask in the Q&A). I agree with all the ...

Jean Kazez has now closed the "Bullying" article to comments. Why does she keep doing that? I think she closes comments whenever she feels that the conversation is going in circles with no signs of progress. Bummer, because some really good points were raised there (especially Russell Blackford's c...

Now, now, you know that both Abbie and Justin weren't trolled - clearly, they were asking for it. It's there fault that poor ol' Laden couldn't control himself - they made him do it. He had no choice. It was his upbringing. Oh, silly me. Must have been all my privilege keeping me from seeing that o...

I just returned from the Secular Student Alliance's 2012 annual convention. I was on the 'religious campuses' panel talking about my experience as an atheist at Catholic colleges and the denial of two Secular Student Alliance groups I tried to form. I also talked about very real threats I have rece...

The baboons will no doubt go to great lengths to femsplain to everyone why this reeeaaaaalllly isn't sexual objectification, or degradation, because the guy was a willing participant or sumpin'. If I saw this happening in an afterparty or something like that I probably wouldn't personally give it a...

And before I'm accusing of cyberstalking anyone, the video was linked to by some commenter on the Skepchickcon thing referenced above.

Someone should mirror this before it disappears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmLdaBTFtoA (it's been flagged, so you need a youtube or gmail account to view). Watson is the one filming, at about 0:50 we see how much of a problem she really has with sexual objectification at her own skeptic's conve...

I suppose you could make the argument that a fragile person could be damaged psychologically by any negative comment (you're a jerk!). But the difference in these two cases is that in one, you need a third party (rapist) to commit the act of violence (or a wayward bus). The odds of that are slim, w...

@ mordacious1 (right above) I'd agree with your analysis on Case 1, 2, 5, and 6. But I'm having trouble seeing the difference between Case 3 & 4. Couldn't the argument be made that people who are in a fragile enough state of mind would just as much be psychologically affected by the statement "I hop...

It might have already been referenced in the original Slimepit (I can't remember now) but the Debunking Handbook by John Cook and Stephen Lewandowsky is available free online at the following link: http://www.skepticalscience.com/docs/Debunking_Handbook.pdf It has some good stuff about how people fi...

Actually, I had a long, hard think about it today, and I've made my mind up. Editing is going. No editing at all. I will retain the capability to edit - in theory I could turn it off, but I can never remove the ability to turn it back on, and I also have access to the database and I can go and edit...

I'd be fine with removing the edit feature completely, as long as the preview button stays around. I honestly didn't even notice it was there until there was a discussion about it. Besides the potential for abuse, another possible problem with people constantly going back to edit their comments is t...

Hi! No worries (: I didn't necessarily agree with PZ on everything before EG, but with EG I wanted to know more. I hadn't actually looked at the comments before then, so I don't know how people before that were treated. After EG it seemed to me that if they were right, then it was only by coinciden...

"Dishonest" appear to be Ophelia's go-to word for everything these days. But was it dishonest for her to claim that people at ERV were wishing here bodily harm, how we talked about nothing else besides that 24/7? Was it dishonest how when she first made references to this faux email threat, she did ...

Hi, I don't want to intrude (that's a lie :D ) but as a fellow delurker from the ERV thread I thought it would be polite to say hello. When elevatorgate happened, I was pretty nonchalant about it, thinking along the lines, "Yeah, that guy was kind of a doofus, but thankfully not dangerous." However,...

I agree with Lsuoma, arguing with them over at FtB won't achieve anything (as has been repeatedly shown over the last year). Trying to correct whatever misrepresentations the FC5 have/will come up with against us, is best addressed here, then going over to FtB and risk having our words either delete...

Hi, long time reader of the original Slimepit, first time commenter on any of its threads/related venues. I was a lurker at ERV, and came close to commenting a few times last summer but didn't because others always ended up raising whatever point I was going to make anyway (but much better than I pr...

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