If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Dr Dick :) Sure she wasn't wearing her seat belt. But in this case the company had a primary legal (if not moral) duty of care to ensure a safe work place. If things were getting out of hand there should have been resources in play to ensure a professional work space was maintained. That's why exces...

PZ finds a stray moggy. Moggy finds a text book to curl up with.

Why am I not surprised the text book is 2 editions and 11 years out of date?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... in-repose/

No, there was no excuse for that photo. I have been diminished. What the fuck does that mean? Can you rephrase it without using words which have been appropriated by Sociology and unilaterally given non-common-usage meanings? This is one of those times when mentally appending a winkie or a sarcasm ...

Or, in other words: "What Karmakin said." :D He was the boss. He had institutional authority. He had professional responsibility. In a social pub setting of peers I'd agree with the Karmakin line 100%. Less so in this exact situation. The opportunity for the woman to also fuck up with the boss shou...

Whoever Caine lives with has some really fucking low ideas about basic personal hygiene. Look at this fucker's fingernails from her blog (the rat, by the way, sounds like it is fine, just had a tumor removal surgery. Perfectly common with pet rats). This isn't a one-off: every photo I've seen from ...

Whoever Caine lives with has some really fucking low ideas about basic personal hygiene. Look at this fucker's fingernails from her blog (the rat, by the way, sounds like it is fine, just had a tumor removal surgery. Perfectly common with pet rats). This isn't a one-off: every photo I've seen from ...

Peezus has a post today about microRNAs and cancer (- during which he mentions a gene discovered by yours truly as part of my PhD!) Anyway, with a specialized subject like this it can be unclear to non scientists whether he is actually giving the correct information. I lecture on this subject at a ...

And I should mention, structured like this the argument changed my opinion. I will still call out RW physically, sometimes quite rudely. But now I will mentally characterise it as "blowing off steam" caused by my anger over what she has done to the movement. Not wonderfully legitimate rhetoric. Its ...

I hate frisking as the next person, so I numbered your paragraphs. Thanks for the treatise on high satire. I'm sure some of the shops here actually meet your definitions. Others are just plain mockery taking the piss out of those who deserve it because of their arrogance and dislocation from realit...

<inner quotes> There is even a better and meaner example, I once expanded upon the manatee joke. In this case, while a funny similarity in hair style, hair and shirt colour technically falls under â€œappearanceâ€, it is arguably quite different from extensively commenting on ugly/beauty and the li...

There is even a better and meaner example, I once expanded upon the manatee joke. In this case, while a funny similarity in hair style, hair and shirt colour technically falls under â€œappearanceâ€, it is arguably quite different from extensively commenting on ugly/beauty and the like, which is ju...

bovarchist wrote:
Why is a bush-pig like a moped?
Italians make the best ones.

I've never seen, let alone ridden, an Italian bush pig, but I will take your word for it.

Is it wishful thinking, temporary glitch or OE that is giving me a broken link to RWs inaugural PopSci article:

http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/unpo ... ty-contest

What, are you feeling bad that Welch and Steersman are fighting? You had to see Welch and Franc fighting. Those were the days. let us summon franc back to those good old days by incessantly lauding apple products Franc was raging more against tech in general, because people should live in a cave an...

yomomma wrote:
Why, thank you John!

Oh, noes! I feel a group hug coming on! :shifty:

A group moon may be more appropriate.

:moon:

I wondered why [Watson] was allowed to link her merch site, if the editor missed it, ignored it, or if part or all of her payment for writing articles is use her space there to promote her merch ,appearances, and etc. With Watson it's all about self-promotion and turning a buck. All of it. It is tr...

Marilove says No, but seriously, please explain to me exactly how she is â€œhurtingâ€ this guy. I am CURIOUS as hell how this guy can be hurt by Elyse posting some shit on a blog on the internet. Truly. Truly curious. A splendid example of cognitive dissonance caught in the wild. http://skepchick.o...

Re "inappropriate ad hominems" - I guess the issue is who defines this. I'm happy to be challenged as to why my comments are made, less so to be told comments shouldn't be made. Unless, of course, there is a commenting policy a la "Background Probability" that I've missed. Re the "Rubicon" - I woul...

Email sent to the online content editor of PopSci, just now: Hello - I'm writing about the merchandise photo and link in Rebecca Watson's introductory post: http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/unpopular-science/not-popularity-contest I don't know whether or not PopSci has a policy about bloggers pos...

Steersman, Appreciate you taking the time to reply. Re "inappropriate ad hominems" - I guess the issue is who defines this. I'm happy to be challenged as to why my comments are made, less so to be told comments shouldn't be made. Unless, of course, there is a commenting policy a la "Background Proba...

She has obviously gone after names - but again I thought she stayed on the tightrope by framing it purely as a privilege/patriarchy thing. And that's from TAM convention code onwards. The way she keeps a clean skin on SGU + the way she lets Steve tightly control the info flow when controversy can't...

Has RW actually and directly attacked "big tent" skepticism? I got the impression during the PZ/Novella shoot out that she kept her head well and truly down. I recall at the time looking forward to her having to decide upon a principled vs mercenary stand - and the pang when she slipped away. She h...

So I guess Popular Science decided butthurt snark and manufactured controversy was what its site was missing. Welcome blogger Rebecca Watson . Oh, FFS. What are her scientific credentials, other than her communications degree? I actually think that Rebecca Watson's ideal job (in her own mind) would...

Come to think of it, wasn't Dunning's sentence hearing supposed to occur last August?

She is an opportunist foremost... Notice her header links to her merch site? She's the only one to do that. The lady knows how to monetize. The bigfoot gear is one of the many things that got her into trouble at DragonCon. The product is merely resale of an item available somewhere else. So obvious...

Does Watson really claim to be "the object of most men's desires?" Do you really believe on the available evidence that RW does not have a high opinion of herself on this front, one that permeates her brand? Really? OK. So to the best of your knowledge she has not stated that she is "the object of ...

I'm glad you "get it". There appear to be a number here who do not. They seem to believe in magical lines of behaviour disconnected to context, ie objective rules that "thou shall not "... In this case mock physical attributes even when they are very relevant to the world view differences being deb...

OMG, dude. It "succeeds", as in it makes a point given how Watson claims to be the object of most men's desires (particularly the ones who attend skeptic functions), whom men apparently only see as somebody they must fuck now or they'll die a slow painful death or something. That, right there, if t...

So there is a bloody good point to the bagging . Or have I missed something pretty fucking fundamental here? Yes, yes, we get it, but can we consider the fucking point made for now? No, I think we need to resurrect it in its zombie form and talk about it for four more pages. :lol: I know you weren'...

And in a postscript. Next time I complain that I am an object of lust, especially while I also attempt to capitalise on it, please point out the obvious (now now very relevant) fact that I must be joking.

This whole RW thing is getting problematic. She comes as a package. We are here to take the piss out of her. She claims hundreds of atheists want to rape her. She wants us to stop sexualising her. She has built a career out of pandering to some sort of weird nerdy fetish which places her front and c...

Trolling the Pit.

I think RW is ugly and I wouldn't have sex with her.

Why? Because I can.

Now that feels better.

I find the recent focus on Watson's appearance or production value of her video really bad. It is certainly not my issue I have with her and her ilk of Orwellian authoritarians that trump up allegations based on real issues so they can feel powerful and in control. I also don't think she looks that...

Air France, Paris to Singapore. Fingers crossed.

FTR, I don't find Becca unattractive at all. (Not nearly as fine, of course, as the babelicious Jen McCreight.) No one's physical appearance should be a factor in evaluating what they say. Nevertheless, I have to wonder about her 'before' & 'after' looks. Are they calculated? Was the 'pippi longsto...

These are really good points. FTB/A+ and Skepchick (she claims independence from the first two groups, of course) haven't really done anything for the movement lately. Vacula's always DOING something. The FFRF is always suing assholes. Dawkins is evangelizing reason and freethought in prime time. U...

These are really good points. FTB/A+ and Skepchick (she claims independence from the first two groups, of course) haven't really done anything for the movement lately. Vacula's always DOING something. The FFRF is always suing assholes. Dawkins is evangelizing reason and freethought in prime time. U...

Why donâ€™t you â€“ and yâ€™all â€“ post your own pictures, preferably at, say, Skepchicks so that the ladies can make snarky comments about your physiology? Turn-about being fair play, and all that. Unless you disagree of course. Speaking for myself, because I'm not an attention whore. Nobody forc...

Rebecca Watson is...just...not attractive. True, but... Until now, Rebecca Watson has generally done just one thing to combat her unattractiveness: disguise herself as a teenager. And it used to work. Imagine if she had always been groomed like a slick consultant-- but with the same stammering uhhh...

Massively off-topic - Tom Clancy just died. To steal from the late Bette Davis: it has been said that, of the dead, one should say only good. In keeping with that: Tom Clancy is dead? Good. Holy fuck, what a dick. That great howling you hear in the background is several million neo-cons wondering w...

Umm, West Berlin I meant.

Massively off-topic - Tom Clancy just died. To steal from the late Bette Davis: it has been said that, of the dead, one should say only good. In keeping with that: Tom Clancy is dead? Good. Holy fuck, what a dick. That great howling you hear in the background is several million neo-cons wondering w...

Publicising hard to find info to simply upset = doxxing Publicising public website or social media info with a legit point in mind less so. Ie it is trivial to find Caines hometown on her own photography website. It is instructive she lives in a 100% white community. Is this legit info or not when ...

Damion has a post up on the doxxing issue. He has chosen not to invoke the slymepit this time which is good. http://www.skepticink.com/backgroundprobability/2013/09/29/naming-the-problem/ Damion takes the FTB route of defining words to mean something that can justifiably apply to almost everyone: "...

:o Ahh I see Damion has his own thread. How to keep up here!

But then he ruins it by linking to his storify bit.

Damion has a post up on the doxxing issue. He has chosen not to invoke the slymepit this time which is good. http://www.skepticink.com/backgroundpro ... e-problem/

Oh gawd, Carrier and Surly are marketing Bayesian "art" and tee shirts. The tee shirt is categorised on cafe press under *groan* "Richard Carrier's Marvelous Amusements".

Maybe Gumby et al could do a similar line of 'shop inspired fashion? How is the pit hosting funded anyway?

I've noted the same thing myself. PZ had a recent post about the guys who thought they found extra-terrestrial life. Apparently they had a go at PZ and He commented to the effect that it reminded him of something that the slymepit would do. Having a go at PZ is a rational reflex and our 'reason for...

SoylentAtheist 2. So you went to London with your family and they are sleeping in until 11.00am. I guess you didn't have anything specific planned, because I bet your family is somehow capable of getting their own asses up, showered, dressed and out the door for school & work 5 out of the 7 days of ...

Re Popehat. What exactly is a statement of fact? You are a rapist, appears to be one. You are a liar .. ? You are an immoral advantage taking douche bag? You are a bad person? What type of fact does the statement have to refer to? This could get quite postmodern. Also is it really true that a blogge...

Family in London. Almost 11.00am and still can't get them out of the hotel room.

Head smacks wall.

ianfc wrote:I think Beccy looks rather cute in this one

http://ufoetblog.com/wp-content/uploads ... edhair.jpg

No, her face is up here *points*.

Is there a feminist FAQ. I know this has been addressed many times but I can't remember the answers. Who wins in a privilege cage fight: racial minority man vs economically privilaged white woman? Or does it depend on the SJ topic of the day? Does a racial minority woman get to tell a white woman to...

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/XHM5BSR.jpg

Your definition is empty - it does not address the implications of being a dick. Piss off and masturbate somewhere else.

BarnOwl wrote: I thought Condell was leftist to the extent of being socialist, but perhaps I'm thinking of someone else, or I'm politically uninformed. I don't think that PZ or any of the other FtBers are countercultural, radical, or leftist, tbh. Shouldn't overt and zealous opposition to the order...

Well, we lack a Richard Carrier, but Steers or Wonder could fill in. :shifty: I think Caine's nuonced view of Slyme canon would be "all women are cunts who need to be raped". There is comfort in certainty. In reality ours would be a reactive philosophy - "we do not have sufficient evidence to accep...

Suppose you get drunk and you get mugged on your way home. You go to the police and they say: â€œ Man up! Your responsiblity. You got drunk, your fault. We know Jim, the mugger, but what's the problem!? You chose to get drunk, and thus its your fault that he mugged you. You practically asked for it...

Brain fried from deadlines and writing up quotes from clients, maybe I'm missing something really obvious but... Vaguely looked at PZ's anger with "dictionary atheists". I just don't even understand what they're trying to argue. I'm an atheist because none of the arguments for the existence of Gods...

PZ just admitted he was trolling his own blog. He initiated the definition debate to 'smoke out' thoughtcrime. Fucking idiot. He doesn't get that 'atheist' is a perfectly good word to describe a base shared characteristic but is useless in then describing what one does with that view point. Thought...

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