If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

PZ Myers is a terrible writer. I frequently cringe when reading his drivel. No wonder he couldn't write a real book. I actually think his writing isn't always so bad; it's certainly the best on FTB (which, I'll grant, isn't saying much). What makes me cringe is his asshattery. He has a middling wri...

PZ Myers is a terrible writer. I frequently cringe when reading his drivel. No wonder he couldn't write a real book. He was only ever convincing because he wrote with an air of superiority what people already believed. It's well established that the one who sounds most confident is the most compell...

I guess the source in my last post might not be evident to all--Pharyngula.

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ROBOKiTTY wrote:FTB and Atheism+ remind me of Casey Luskin back in the day, always saying that intelligent design was not the same thing as creationism.

Sure, but as PZ pointed out, they're not North Korea.

Makes you think, doesn't it? Well, cringe.

Thunderf00t's wondering what to call his video about the sinking of the sad ship FTB.

I think I'd just give it the title of "Justice."

Re: the whole women as toilets bensonism Its a form of rhetoric used by the anti-porn/prostitution feminists. They refer to women in those professions as cumdumpsters, sperm receptacles and toilets. Or the more passive-aggressive way of saying it is to call a woman that by implying that men call he...

It's amazing how that one sort of toilet becomes jealous when a guy uses another of that sort of toilet.

You'd almost think there was something else going on, but as skeptics we must not question those responsible for our expansive freedoms.

It's actually misleading (not wrong per se, but ignoring much that is involved) even to call the X chromosome a "sex chromosome," because many genes on it have nothing directly to do with the sexual differences at all. Monotremes have the same chromosome existing as an autosome, with other chromosom...

ERV wrote:Hey the Shermer-Dawkins event is going to be live-streamed!

http://www.skeptic.com/upcoming-lectures/

2 pm PT

But what about Peezus' tears of angry frustration?

Aren't those just as worthy?

:lol: :lol: :lol: Brownian/Anthony K and Ophelia turned up in the comments to Svans whining stalky post and decided they were going to destroy the suggestion, made in Abbies comment here on the pit, that they were a lot of losers who didn't do (or didn't want to do) any real work. They figured out ...

Ophie.... http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2013/10/rootle-rootle/ In the comments of Ophie's previous blog post, Bjarte Foshaug, the artist responsible for this... http://i.imgur.com/87PmVst.png ...describes the following image as "gross"... http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/up...

Should have been, bolded:

Thunderf00t clearly couldn't be allowed at FTB, while it's intolerable that SciAm would even pull a blogpost by anyone he agrees with.

Since SciAm didn't do what Peezus did, ban the blogger forthwith.

From the man who would like you to be more self-aware : First uh-oh. So SciAm is in the business of policing blog writers now? Sometimes I think that every authoritarian movement exists because a completely self-absorbed hopeful dictator can see how all of his enemies fail at proper thinking, simply...

[snip] http://i.imgur.com/hEjpHG8.png http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/10/06/more-formulaic-bullshit-from-thunderf00t/ Because rapists are just like a company that we can order to fix their behavior. How did this man ever become a scientist? :doh: Plus, since when has that been true? Whe...

What annoyed me most of all was to hear Leonard Nimoy's voice narrating the show "In Search of." At that age I thought Leonard Nimoy was pro-science and would never steer us wrong. But there he was, every week, shoveling a complete pile of fascinating yet obvious bullshit. And at the end of every s...

From Thunderdome; Doug Hudson and Caine show hilarious lack of awareness and self awareness : OT comment: if anyone here also comments at Shakesville, hereâ€™s a helpful tipâ€“donâ€™t argue with the mods there. Sweet zombie jesus, it was like a pack of wolves. You would have thought I wrote a paean...

PZ makes an appeal to consequences: Iâ€™m saying it should make a difference in how you live and what you do. If it doesnâ€™t, why bother being an atheist? Yes, how could anyone just be objective? PZ certainly isn't. He can't even avoid obvious fallacies, although they're done somewhat differently t...

Hitch: Our belief is not a belief. Our principles are not a faith. We do not rely solely upon science and reason, because these are necessary rather than sufficient factors, but we distrust anything that contradicts science or outrages reason. We may differ on many things, but what we respect is fre...

PZ makes shit up: The dictionary atheists are people who want to pretend to a simplicity and authority of their views that they do not have. Uh, yeah, must be the minimalists who are claiming an authority they don't have, not the bigoted ignoramus who believes that only one set of beliefs is even wo...

Perhaps most importantly, the term "freethought" is regularly used in its etymological meaning, indeed. "Freethinkers" generally do claim that the point is to give up authorities in order to do your own thinking, to go where the evidence leads. True, they don't usually think in terms of Ted Bundy or...

From a much more learned person than PZ and his fellow authoritarians (yes, I know that doesn't narrow it down much): Freethought is the repudiation of all coercion of authority or tradition in philosophy, theology, and ideology. It is the commitment to the theory that the power of cultural institut...

Well, my post at Carrier's blog no longer shows as "in moderation" so I guess that particular brave social justice warrior, Mr. Intellectual Artillery of FfTB himself, continues to show his true FfTB colours. Colours. Carrier, fuck you and your Titanic sized ego into the ground, hmm? OK? OK. I donâ...

No, you don't get it, that only makes it even more of a noble self-sacrifice. You see PZ Myers COULD have become a "horseman", but he turned his back upon this priviledge when he stumbled upon The Truth (tm). A Moses like martyr figure, screaming against the tyrants he used to be a part of, "let my...

"When they do it": Is this some kind of return to the McCarthy era? Taylor is openly communist, but there is nothing illegal about that, and it certainly isnâ€™t a reason to discriminate against her. If the Ethical Humanist Society of Chicago is going to start throwing people out and arresting them ...

"PZ MYERS DECLARES WAR ON ME" [youtube]3thZ135aPhE[/youtube] From the comments, Geewees guys, I'm a victim nowï»¿ that PuZzy Myers linked my vid on his blog, called me an opponent and harassed me by calling me a "stupid... evil fuckbrained asshole." I don't think the place he works at would like th...

I went to see what was up in the house of peezee. His latest display of brilliance is short so I can put it all here. Twitter has become the place where every rabid misogynist feels empowered to fling poo at me. The latest is this amazing cure for feminism: [youtube]HSkapYp8djQ[/youtube] Look at th...

Rehabilitated post-modernism I guess http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/09/10/can-we-rehabilitate-post-modernism-please/comment-page-1/#comment-689225 218 PZ Myers 10 September 2013 at 9:11 pm (UTC -5) OK, guys, you really need some help here. For example: heat albumin to 100 degrees centi...

PZ just last year: Fortunately, our idea has been incubating for a few centuries, and has involved multitudes of our civilizationâ€™s greatest minds. Itâ€™s called science. Science is our weapon, our god-killer. Itâ€™s the greatest tool humanity has ever invented â€” itâ€™s taken us from a hodge-pod...

Hitch dies, and PZ just remains the horse's ass of atheism.

No one needs a fourth horseman badly enough to stoop to picking the "Shepherd of internet trolls," or whatever Harris's phrase was.

Shepherd, though? He just seems like the biggest troll to me.

I should note that the quoted portions also admit of "brute fact," but clearly in a slippery manner. Oh, social facts, interventions, can determine "brute facts," which is so much gobbledy-gook. That's why I didn't bother with it at first, because that's usually what this BS devolves into, making "s...

:D :D :lol: :lol: Peezus has just embraced post-modernism! http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/09/10/can-we-rehabilitate-post-modernism-please/ The transformation is complete! From that piece of dreck (quoted by PZ): It was there that I first unveiled my counterargument, namely, that the wo...

As a woman, I feel that feminism was a bullshit movement designed to help middle class (and above) white women. Starting with suffragettes and ending up with skepchicks...just a lot of white woman complaining about first world problems. Signed, The Spic But they transcend their class, and speak for...

Myers: And thatâ€™s how I win. Not by demanding homogeneity, but by plugging into a growing environment with broader scope, by letting my ideas piggy-back on a dynamic and evolving and successful system... Myers: I have a different metaphor for us, my brothers and sisters in atheism. We are not shee...

ERV wrote:Defense date scheduled, crappy draft of dissertation given to Bossman to rip before I give it to the committee. Gonna celebrate tonight by going to bed early. :-|

If you're going to defend, clearly you're guilty.

That's how it works with Shermer, anyhow.

So wait a minute... PutZ just posted about Dawkins supposedly demanding Watson be removed from the reason rally and said this: "But otherwise, I will not discriminate on the basis of who else youâ€™ve invited to speak. So sure, you can also invite Ray Comfort to your conference, and I wonâ€™t use t...

And kind of interesting that the "Myers Legal Defense Fund" has not materialized to date. It's almost like they just want that week of bendering, when they were cray cray outing "rapists" to just go away and never be seen again. Unfortunately, uh, this is, like, reality? Wait... (in the true Myers ...

Caine, Fleur du mal 30 August 2013 at 11:28 pm (UTC -5) Travis: Anyway, it did get me wondering if anyone knows of any â€˜pitters or MRA types that have realized how vile they are and have changed. I havenâ€™t heard of any, but I donâ€™t get around on the â€˜net as much as others do. 248 Do relapse...

Caine, Fleur du mal 30 August 2013 at 11:28 pm (UTC -5) Travis: Anyway, it did get me wondering if anyone knows of any â€˜pitters or MRA types that have realized how vile they are and have changed. I havenâ€™t heard of any, but I donâ€™t get around on the â€˜net as much as others do. 248 Me me me. ...

Another gem I found from scouting Twitter... https://twitter.com/WowbaggerOM/status/374304971895754753 Alright, listen up. They DO disagree after all. It's even worth a tweet and a discussion. Checkmate, Slymepitters! The old joke, "We not only have country music, we even have western," comes to mi...

What, compassionate bitchiness has failed already?

No doubt it's the fault of the Slymepitters.

http://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5995419392/h7382E4B0/ http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1378122770227767885.jpg The appropriate SJW approved response, is; i'll look at your eyes when you stop shoving your tits in my face. I like Daniel Packard's response: "If you want me to look you i...

Should have been:

More seriously, to really make Pharyngula inviting, just get different people blogging and commenting. You may wish for your circle jerk to appeal to others, but technique isn't really the problem.

Send an email to the monitors. Spell out who is breaking the rules, what thread, and what comment. As a last resort, email PZ Myers. With such assurances against bias, who wouldn't jump at the chance of having Caine judge who is right? More seriously, to really make Pharyngula, just get different p...

Well the real question is, how can Pharyngula, PZ, and the commentariat be certain of the rightness of their opinions, insist that they get to make the rules (Shermer gets publicly condemned via hearsay), censor language that is common outside of certain groups that claim moral superiority over all ...

Heh : Iâ€™d hoped to avoid making a public thing out of having left Pharyngula, because for one thing Iâ€™d prefer to move on, and for another there are some who will seize on anything they can to try to create trouble for a number of the bloggers at FreeThought Blogs, and needless public drama is ...

PZ has a post up on Evolutionary Psychology: The Rise of the Evolutionary Psychology Douchebag . The author takes tow cases of fraud and one asshole, and of course, tars the entire field. Basic baboon behavior, and PZ's comment is simply to note that the "evolutionary psychology douchebags" are "ne...

Meh, true. God their 'convictions' and 'principles' are utterly arbitrary. More self-serving than not, I think. "In-group morality, out-group hostility". Kind of goes with the territory of being human, I expect, but many over there seem to have developed the idea to a fine art. As far as I can see,...

That's from Pharyngula today, if anyone didn't know.

Weâ€™re all bad together hereâ€¦and proud of it Possibly the most deluded claim among thousands vying for maximal delusion at FTB. Mr. Conventional working for the establishment takes up a number of conventional academic politics and tries to pretend to be ahead on those. Next on Most Colossal Fuck...

Fuck You PZ and your privilege comment. What a completely oblivious prick. Why, it's his burden, thrust upon him. That's why he must preserve and enhance it by making unsubstantiated accusations against others. Poor Peezus, afflicted by so much superiority and magnanimity. It's almost as if he were...

I came upon this story about a man who was accused of raping his daughter. The mother was on drugs and threatened to beat the daughter if she didn't say that her father touched her. He was convicted. There was no evidence, the daughter soon recanted her story, the mother admitted to threatening her...

ARRRGGGGHHhhhh.... Myers, king of the morons writes: Iâ€™ve been threatened with a false rape accusation, one that could have totally destroyed my career. I took it very seriously and moved quickly to provide evidence that it was false. Could have totally destroyed his career? Isn't the narrative t...

An exam to gather evidence for sexual assault feels invasive after a person has been through an assault, but it's pretty much a standard pelvic exam, taking a bit longer to swab wherever there might be evidence and to take photos of injuries. (I've done these exams.) The samples are labeled as to w...

We can be virtually certain that there are no emails in which Shermer admits to anything illegal, at least. Why wouldn't we have quotes from those, rather than from some vague and bare accusation? <devil's advocate> The reason provided for not revealing more details is that this person did not want...

Weâ€™re not talking about what kind of evidence would support publication in a peer-reviewed journal, or a judgment in a court of law. Weâ€™re talking about what kind of evidence would support judgment in the court of public opinion. The legal standard of evidence isnâ€™t the issue here. How can pe...

The Damning Emails Didn't Myers say his anonymous victim possesses an email exchange between herself and Shermer in which they discuss the "rape"? If those emails existed, wouldn't they take the whole thing past hearsay and into solid evidence - a confession from Shermer himself? Now that would be ...

Hey, speaking of people confusing getting drunk/having sex with getting drugged/raeped-- Did I ever tell you all a guy tried to drug-->rape me in college? Sheer fucking luck saved me, that and being an 'experienced' under-age drinker. <snip> Incidentally, this incident is one reason why I did very ...

Gah, premature clicking:

Well, "I'm just wondering, is this NoR, or Caine?"

But you knew that.

Well, "'m just wondering, is the NoR, or Caine?"

But you knew that.

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