If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

This guy spells out the type of thinking circulating the remains of PZ Myers' brain. [youtube]72YGgCo5-xQ[/youtube] :o :lol: PZ's pro bono attorney breaks his silence. Watch out Shermer! Seriously, Youtube is great. I had to go out onto the streets of NYC to hear his type in the past. I'm just wond...

I don't for a minute think PZ would be THAT stupid to not have sought legal advise before this course of action. If Paul Myers is smart enough to seek out legal advice prior to this course of action, wouldn't he be consulting with that lawyer right now instead of reaching out to Popehat for free la...

IDiot (Meyer, Dembski, etc.) logic: Functionally complex things are known to be made by intelligence. Life is functionally complex. Therefore life was made by intelligence, screw all of the details that might go against that conclusion. idiot (Myers, NoR, et al.) logic. Real rapes are frequently kno...

With there being a lot of accusations against Shermer, no really verifiable facts, I thought this might fill in a bit, at least about who is involved. A post by Driver: Quote (OgreMkV @ Aug. 18 2013,00:38) So you agree that it is not 100% certain that the alleged event even happened? You know what w...

"The Happy Atheist" was published by Pantheon Books. It's a bit ironic, then, that a search of references on "self-plagiarism" mostly brings up Richard Posnerâ€™s "The Little Book of Plagiarism", published in 2007...by Pantheon Books. From page 43 of Posner's book: â€œSelf-copying becomes fraudulen...

If theists, conspiracy theorists, or alternative medicine quacks held a conference over here it'd be the talk of the British skeptic community. There'd certainly be no shortage of analysis, criticism and mockery of the dafter ideas on display. I won't be holding my breath waiting for British skepti...

[quotebovarchist wrote: New post from Damien makes the Pit out as just like FTB, just...I dunno. You read it, see what you think. http://www.skepticink.com/backgroundpro ... ck-a-side/ What I want to know is, who are the "opinion leaders" here? Because I'd like to know who I'm supposed to agree with...

Why are at least half of the comments about paying for a subscription to Pharyngula, moron? Actually, it's recommended that you read with comprehension. The Zed admits that there's shit in his own ads as well. Subscriptions would rather cool this place down, FWIW. I'm not paying him anything--and I...

Because it's a circlejerk where lots of people tell PZ how wonderful his shit tastes by promising to pay for a subscription. But like the Happy Atheist, IRL, no one will be buying. If you want to participate in a circlejerk, feel free to go back there.[/quote] OK, so you have fucking nothing, and ar...

From Peezus' latest: .... Dammit, Kookaid isn't free! Does he mean that people will have to pay for his posts? If they won't pay for his book, what makes him think they'll pay for posts? Or is he thinking of subscribing to some advertising service? He's not seriously contemplating going to a subscr...

Uh, once more for clarity:

I saw Phil on the list browsing this forum today.

I like to think that each time Peezus posts something as idiotic as this SkepticDoctor piece he loses a few commenters who are smart enough to see through the demagoguery and dishonesty. But I'm probably way too optimistic. PZ said a long time ago that the comments were getting out of hand, and he ...

From Peezus' latest:

Maybe we need to think harder about going to a subscription model here.

Dammit, Kookaid isn't free!

If there were no PZ Myers, it would be necessary to invent him. Seriously, what's with all of you bozos paying taxes and voting money for a justice system, when there are only two rules that we need to follow? 1. If a woman accuses a man of rape, he did it. 2. If PZ Myers has no reason to lie about...

If there were no PZ Myers, it would be necessary to invent him. Seriously, what's with all of you bozos paying taxes and voting money for a justice system, when there are only two rules that we need to follow? 1. If a woman accuses a man of rape, he did it. 2. If PZ Myers has no reason to lie about ...

I think I'd like to have a talk at a skeptic conference. At that talk, all I would do is read PZ's current post. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/18/skepticdoc-m-d/ http://www.freezepage.com/1376846621GTOPIBNRCX http://i.imgur.com/EEf4UUC.jpg The rest at the freezepage: http://www.fre...

ERV wrote:No one has ever propositioned me as a conference :(

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/ori ... tled-1.jpg

People just ask me questions about viruses.

Hey baby, you wanna see my herpes?

Oh, so close.

Myers writes: It was the eroticism of intellectual stimulation. Really? Nothing to do with the fact that he is in a position of relative wealth and power, and has proven himself to be a manipulable man by fact of his years of marriage? I really don't think "Intellectual stimulation" would work as a...

not that i'm going to go back through pharyngula to find it, fuck that, but I do believe at one point, PZ et al were saying how conference speakers should NOT bang attendees because of the power imbalance. Could well be, but in the two comments shown in this thread he appeared eager to avoid saying...

I know we recently had a discussion about how social sciences are all completely useless but, in any case, assuming that book sales on Amazon observe something like Zipf's law and that the partial map of Amazon rank to number of sales here is accurate: http://dogearpublishing.net/wordpress/index.ph...

Apart from the fact that giving someone your room key is a stupid way of propositioning someone, unless they're going to take you off for a shag that very second. (How do they know which is your room? Those swipe cards all look the same. How are you going to get into your room between now and shag ...

jmpea81 wrote: Wow. This actually sounds somewhat reasonable... http://www.freezepage.com/1376754151HMSKWPBNFC (from hxxp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... y-gay-date) All without throwing a tantrum... Don't worry, if the guy had said "cunt," believed in God (no, I don't, just to make that cle...

Apparently Popehat wants to get a seat at the SJW lunch table. (Apologies if this was already posted.) https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/368534679676129280 (Sorry, don't know how to insert graphic.) Good lord. Dear Popehat: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/559/stewie.png Appare...

Any speculation on why Peezus is in such a good mood? I'm guessing completely. Fronting, I think. Probably to himself, though, as well as to others. What level of bad-faith do you suppose he typically operates at, anyway? He tells himself that he's only working to help others, that he's a good and ...

So the holy hand grenade page has now been up 8 days, and has survived two days past the C&D order. I admit I am surprised and while I certainly hope PeeZus loses in the long run, I have to wonder if he hasn't won Round 1 (putting up the page and spreading the defamation) Round 2 (surviving the C&D...

So the holy hand grenade page has now been up 8 days, and has survived two days past the C&D order. I admit I am surprised and while I certainly hope PeeZus loses in the long run, I have to wonder if he hasn't won Round 1 (putting up the page and spreading the defamation) Round 2 (surviving the C&D...

There's a pretty good Newsweek article on skepticism and atheism:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... olice.html

PZ shows up briefly, being dickish, true to type.

I know I already mentioned this but does anyone else get the feeling that some of these people are probably very mentally ill? Whenever I see a Caine post I always imagine an obese autistic 30-year old who lives in her parents' basement and sits at the computer all day, defending PZ's blog from rap...

You smart asses think that Nerd's such a fool. Well, he just provided incontrovertible proof that Shermer's guilty: Heâ€™s giving prima facie evidence he is a bad guy, by not defending himself here, which he could do. But he has his lawyer attempt to intimidate PZ with threat of a lawsuit. Bullies a...

I'm leaning towards "LibelGate". Maybe we should set up a poll. My vote is for Shermergate. Or is it Shermergate 2? I have trouble keeping track sometimes. Anyway, there's already a shermergate hashtag on Twitter, so it seems logical. The PZ Mire (or Mires). Or A Bunch of Cunts Acting Cuntishly. OK...

Itâ€™s especially important that you donâ€™t walk past the standard set by the powerful men in the movement.--The Zed

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Not that he's so powerful any more, but an increasingly good warning against following his sort.

Tag fail... OK what is the secret to embedding YouTube vids here? You do it like this... Easiest way. Hit share: http://youtu.be/zKAO_ieeqTo Keep only the stuff after the / [youtube]zKAO_ieeqTo[/youtube] I happened upon this older video. Didn't know that Mr. Deity commented on PZ McCarthy before, w...

You know what finished off the Salem witch trials, don't you. It was the accusation that the girls made against a high official's wife, I think it was the governor's wife. It wasn't so fun for the officials watching any more when it became clear that it could hit them. The patriarchy began to deny t...

Silverman tweet:

David Silverman â€@MrAtheistPants 5h

I liked a @YouTube video from @mrdeity Mr. Deity and the Hat

Appalling, isn't it?

They're as persecuted as IDiots/creationists are.

This is what I don't understand either. It seems when this topic gets argued on Pharyngula, they're incapable of understanding the difference between a moral argument and practical advice. Being a responsible drinker and not putting yourself at risk is interpreted by them as blaming victims of rape...

Almost impossible that it would turn into a criminal matter. What's at stake are egos/reputations, attorney's fees and possible damages. These cases almost never go to trial and is one is even less likely than usual to. Low damages, neither side would come out looking good, and high attorneys fees ...

I understand that this likely will not go to trial, but, if it does, I'll be waiting to read the subpoenaed documents of the righteous FTB Dear Leaders as they decide good and evil, us vs. them, and how and to what extent they should defame their various enemies. I'm certain that it will be upliftin...

<blockquote>In more important matters than debating age of consent with closet Victorians, has PZ Myers retracted yet?</blockquote> No. What truly important person would take down such truly important words before it's truly necessary? With luck, he'll be too important to do so in two and a half hou...

PZ has a dig at Thunderf00t, because that's worked so well for him in the past: http://www.freezepage.com/1376496950FCSAQWJLYT Increasingly I'm thinking he's not going to retract after all; instead he'll try and bullshit his way through whatever comes next. Messiahs do need their moments upon the c...

Reposting so it won't get lost at the end of the last page. Skip to 5:15 [youtube]kMZ86PGVOQk[/youtube] Holy crap! He landed on that with both feet! Holy crap!. I watched the first half minute of that and skipped it because I thought it was at best tangential commentary. But crap, he goes there and...

"Would you like a refill?" "No, thank you. Now, see how easy that was? Here's another little tip: If you find it hard to say no to the refill, you can just leave the glass full, don't take another sip! That's my friendly little piece of advice to those of you without a backbone, or any sense of per...

I think it is no coincidence that the PMZ style SJW's often come from a country with a high level of religiosity. Many humans seem to have a genetic need to believe or it may simply have come from being brain washed from birth. As they no longer have god they need a replacement and being an SJW fit...

Shermer had only two courses of action open to him. Say nothing or issue the standard Cease and Desist opener. In my very, very limited experience, isn't a C&D usually a warning shot, which pretty much says, "I don't want to spend a small fortune and a load of my time in court, nor do you, so knock...

Bitches, this is like motherfucking Xmas and Halloween combined together! My contribution to this discussion is the following blast from the past... Iâ€™ve been threatened with a false rape accusation, one that could have totally destroyed my career. I took it very seriously and moved quickly to pr...

This fat LARPy guy, for whatever reason, posted on his blog -- conveniently linked by P.Z. Myers -- that he was raped by Michael Shermer? Do you want other fat LARPy guys being raped by Shermer in the future? Do you want to virtually re-rape this one by actually questioning this considerable eviden...

Yup, it's "truth" to power, unless it no longer pays. Suddenly, the fact that the "victim" was purportedly drinking a lot, but that's not anything that legally prevents consent unless she's passed out or unable to comprehend simple communications, will start to matter as it never did when he was ho...

... I agree his best course of action is to withdraw and grovel ... but I don't think the A+/FtB crowd will accept that without his blood ... he will have to spin it a lot... and even then his career outside A+/FtB is dead, and he may still be stung for massive damages I really think he is stupid e...

All this weeping over Phil's dead cat--you guys sound like a bunch of sentimental, maudlin,dewy-eyed old bitches. And why doesn't any of you slymeballs say anything good about PZ? You all continually claim that the "baboons" only talk and never do anything, and now that PZ is actually doing somethi...

I like the whole "Streisand Effect" disanalogy. You know, because her attempts to legally prevent photos of her house being published meant that everyone saw them. And this is exactly the same, except, well, for the nagging problem that whole point was for this accusation to become well-known, as it...

This country spends alot of resources putting in place a very strong system to try and get rapists (indeed, one could argue that in a few cases the laws go a bit TOO far) and these idiots make every excuse under the Sun not to make use of it. Hmmm. Since I started looking into why a victim might be...

Even if (in some case, not saying this one) a very reliable upstanding righteous person A says that a skeevy (sorry, Skeeve) person B tied person A to the bed & forcibly raped person A, and has a really moving, detail-laden, convincing personal narrative that person B can't really counter other tha...

<snip> Comment #129 in "The Last Word" thread: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/12/last-word-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-667796 How clueless can he be? The blogpost "The Last Word" about getting a lawyer should have been THE. LAST. WORD. - not an opening to further commentary. The...

The easiest thing to do at this point is delete & apologise, and throw someone under the bus. It'll be for the poor victim, of course. Not for the privilege that he carefully advances (can you imagine him doing anything that would cost him his bourgeois comfort?). Yup, it's "truth" to power, unless...

Am I the only one here who thinks this celebration of schadenfreude is a bit premature? The fact is that PZ will win if his main accuser is credible and if her story recites facts that clearly show it was "rape", particularly if he has (as he claimed) more women who will recite a similar story, and...

The easiest thing to do at this point is delete & apologise, and throw someone under the bus. It'll be for the poor victim, of course. Not for the privilege that he carefully advances (can you imagine him doing anything that would cost him his bourgeois comfort?). Yup, it's "truth" to power, unless...

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