If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

I think I'd find Watson's talks to be quite the opposite of intellectually stimulating. Maybe when I was younger I could afford to lose a few IQ points, but no longer. *insert awkward joke* So, uh, did I tell you guys that internet trolls have been sending me rape threats and calling me ugly? I did...

I can't speak to sociology, but psychology is absolutely a science and has real applications. Calling it "soft" doesn't really mean much. The whole "is it real" thing strikes me as silly, and slagging a field of study because it's different from yours or has fringe idiots in it makes little sense. ...

Apparently Popehat wants to get a seat at the SJW lunch table. (Apologies if this was already posted.) https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/368534679676129280 (Sorry, don't know how to insert graphic.) Simultaneously attacking the slymepit and flaunting his lack of neurotypicality. Well played, Popeh...

Crommie and the Queen, getting snippy with each other about that Fuson guy. http://i.imgur.com/VsLSE0q.png Isn't it odd how she references the lynching of black people, out of context? If you talk with a PoC about something absolutely unrelated to race, it's pathetic if all you can think about is "...

Cold wrote:
VAXherd wrote:Social Sciences are part of STEM.
Sociology is a soft baby science, much like psychology. Too soft as of right now to be of any real application.

I can't speak to sociology, but psychology is absolutely a science and has real applications. Calling it "soft" doesn't really mean much.

Linus wrote:Is @PhoebeKwon for real?

NVM, pretty sure it's a troll.

Is @PhoebeKwon for real?

Just avoid his political "essays" and his Hamlet gay pedo book and you'll be fine.

Regarding Orson Scott Card, though, I think people are being unfair to him. What happened to him was that the Mormon church came down on him hard because his earlier works were too supportive of homosexuality, and they threatened to excommunicate him unless he immediately wrote some homophobic text...

Mykeru wrote:
Linus wrote:
Git wrote: With thanks to Cornsail over at JREF, here is his/her timeline of the FC(n) going after Shermer:
Cornsail is me, BTW.
You misspelled "hole"

Total PWNAGE!

Git wrote: With thanks to Cornsail over at JREF, here is his/her timeline of the FC(n) going after Shermer:

Cornsail is me, BTW.

PZ let you out of the cage so have some fun while you can. There's a lawyer out there sifting through IP addresses right about now and I reckon at least half the idiot trolls dropping by here will be getting their own little cease and desist action sooner or laterl. What the fuck does this even mea...

Nice bit of A+ lulz here. Setar told off for appropriation and racism by ceepolk. :D You need to scroll down to the end where ceepolk locks the thread. http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5176 I guess it depends on your definition of lulz. Whenever I read something from the A+ forum, ...

didymos wrote:Oh, cute. Now Shermer's lawyer deserves to be reported to the bar and "dragged through the mud". And of coursed, Shermer is even more of a dick for hiring a lawyer in the first place.

Ah yes, Mike Nifong was fond of that argument.

Surgoshan wrote: This fills me with a vague and incoherent rage. ...

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5182

"Vague incoherent rage" is a pretty good description of A+.

Since law enforcement never takes claims of rape seriously, how is it possible that there are currently at least 67,000 people in prison in the U.S. serving sentences for rape? Because most rapes go unreported. We're able to quantify this via anecdotes. Because 1 in 4 women are raped*, which makes ...

I think it is far too simplistic to think that the accomodationist/confrontationalist debate is somehow a forerunner or the schism. I was active online throughout that period and firmly on the confrontationalist side of the debate. I haven't changed my overall position on that question and many of ...

Radford turned me into a newt. Shermer too.

I have a hard time taking someone [Carrier] seriously as an intellectual when they think they've proven that science can determine moral values and gotten around the is/ought problem somehow.

Welch, I've just noticed your new avatar. Could you change it, please, as it could offend some of the folk here who identify as female. Or pangender. Or transvestexual. Or who are primarily male, but do a bit of hoovering on the weekend. Look, it's just downright offensive, okay? I know you don't m...

Zenspace wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I got 18. I seem to suck at Asperging...
I scored 9. I'm even suckier at it.

I also got 9. A lot of the questions were pretty vague.

No. Obviously no one person speaks for the pit... but for my money: Engaging him to the bitter end is bad form. He's more often right than wrong. He's a dick about it. He's funny. Even a lot of the people who hate him refuse to block him or stop replying for various reasons. He appears to get 'drun...

Canadian shows I've enjoyed include the previously mentioned davinci's inquest, regenesis, andromeda (yeah, i know... guilty) and corner gas. "Intelligence" (2006) and "The Newsroom" (1996) are two Canadian shows that I greatly enjoyed. Unfortunately Intelligence was cancelled after season 2, which...

AndrewV69 wrote:
Linus wrote:night vision and then arguing against that. "I have watched most of the trial. I recommend it." is neither inventing an position for somebody, nor is it arguing against something.
Lawl. Why are you arguing with welsh? Time to move on man.

Is arguing with welch considered bad form around here?

Why are we not allowed to talk about TV?

Lsuoma wrote:People, just fucking shut up about the TV/GZ shit or I'll shut the pit down for 48 hours.

Can do.

None of this shit matters. What matters: All the evidence indicating that TM was on top of GZ punching him and bashing his head into the sidewalk and that GZ was yelling for help for a good 40 seconds before the gunshot. The lack of evidence that GZ ever attacked or even confronted TM prior to the ...

What matters: All the evidence indicating that TM was on top of GZ punching him and bashing his head into the sidewalk and that GZ was yelling for help for a good 40 seconds before the gunshot. That doesnt matter: If (and it is a very big if) GZ first attacked TM, it matters not one whit that the f...

(Sorry DeepInsideYourMind. Going to bed now though!) But here. I'll play. What made TM "suspicious"? Hard facts, none of this "i felt" shit. And here we are, back in "none of this shit matters" ville. The key issue is about whether GZ was acting in justified self defense when he pulled the trigger. ...

None of this shit matters. What matters: All the evidence indicating that TM was on top of GZ punching him and bashing his head into the sidewalk and that GZ was yelling for help for a good 40 seconds before the gunshot. The lack of evidence that GZ ever attacked or even confronted TM prior to the ...

None of this shit matters. What matters: All the evidence indicating that TM was on top of GZ punching him and bashing his head into the sidewalk and that GZ was yelling for help for a good 40 seconds before the gunshot. The lack of evidence that GZ ever attacked or even confronted TM prior to the ...

OK, I've said everything I have to say about Zimmerman. Someone else will have to take over for me if we're to keep the argument alive. What I would really like to do, is sentence some people to go live in a neighbourhood like the one Zimmerman lived in for a year then get back to us. Might make no...

Whig wrote:Well, Rebecca was able to connect the dots between Trayvon and Elevatorgate.

http://www.freezepage.com/1374102677NLIVBMYTOK

White privilege vs male privilege: THE ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN

Which one of them is supposed to shut up and listen in this situation??

The question on my mind is who gets to eat those skittles and drink that Arizona now that they've been released from evidence.

Thug life:

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My fellow liberals kept insisting that Obama would be good for race relations. And good for secularism. And good for everyone because of unicorns, rainbows, and flowery rhetoric. Don't look at me, I wanted Hilary to win. Don't blame me either. I voted for Kodos. http://kodos.sourceforge.net/images/...

Me too. If that's all there is on Chomsky's views, it's a bit thin. Doesn't look like much more than the hardly controversial "there are limits to free speech", even if you disagree with a particular limit. But let's face it, and interview by Penn is usually an interview of Penn, not the poor schmu...

Gefan wrote: For some reason I think the source was Kevin Booth. Thanks for the above clip, though. Entertaining.

Google doesn't seem to turn anything up for "Chomsky" and "speech codes" other than the On Bullshit segment.

One of my favorite Chomsky quotes: "Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're really in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech for precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech. " Would this be the sam...

Don't mind me. Just blowing off steam. Some hall of fame worthy quotes from the last couple days around the internet: IMHO The SYG law, if you're familiar with the substance of it, is what gave GZ the legal ability to follow someone based on the belief that there was potential for an imminent crime....

One of my favorite Chomsky quotes:

"Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're really in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech for precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech. "

I had a quick read of Greta xtina's post; On Trayvon Martinand the George Zimmerman Verdict- What "Freethought" Does Not Fracking Mean. Someone posting there has an interesting nym, "BJ Survivor"*, but most notably their is a gem by Sally Strange. SallyStrange July 16, 2013 at 2:36 am (UTC -4) Than...

FrankGrimes wrote:[grammarnazi]

Clarence, it's "I couldn't care less".

"I could care less" implies that you do actually care even if only a little.

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"I could care less" is an idiom in American English.

Cliffs of the Zimmerman story in 2 parts:

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bhoytony wrote:Americans don't seem to realise just how weird their gun culture looks to those on the outside. I can't understand that mindset, it just seems so completely .. er, foreign to me.

We're all about guns and rape over here.

Yet, you keep acting as if while his memory was so bad he couldn't remember a street name, everything else he said was an objectively perfect recording. Pretty sure no one's acting like this. The defense never even attempted to use GZ's testimony as evidence, so things like whether he is truthful, ...

It was suprising to me that the state's witnesses, of all people, seemed to make George Zimmerman out to be a great guy.

What I said or something else? Sorry, ya lost me :) (And why would either be offensive? My last blast at Clarence was due to him being, well, an asshole in response rather than disagreeing with me.) The combination of "I've only just barely paid attention to the Zimmerman/Martin story." and "I'm si...

I've only just barely paid attention to the Zimmerman/Martin story. I stopped paying too much attention when I realized I recognized the mindset of Zimmerman. My guy and I (him especially) have seen this mindset before. The sort that wants nothing more in life than to be a cop and can't be due to p...

Ok, your post came while I was writing mine. I accept that you don't think that TM deserved to die for allegedly assaulting GZ. You ask whether GZ had the right to defend himself in the way he did. Maybe under Florida law that right has been given to him. Where I come from, and my own ethics hold, ...

If it was written fairly it would read "he does not deserve to die because he assaulted someone for following him" (a shove/wild punch not being an accurate description of what happened at all). I agree. I don't think he "deserved" to die. But the question isn't whether he deserved to die, it's whet...

I'm just borrowing your post welch to ride in and say that the most disturbing thing for me is not the law or racism, or anything like that. Rather it is that a 17 year old boy is dead because a grown man shot him. My youngest son has just turned 17. He can be incredibly lippy when challenged, and ...

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Lack of prudence is not "a depraved state of mind", which you need to prove for Murder 2.

But he said "assholes" and "fucking punks". State attorney John Guy would never say anything like that.

I'm glad the black kid got shot and the white/cuban guy got acquitted by the white jury in florida because that sure will piss off the SJWs at FTB hurrr boy howdy. Good fucking laws Florida. Durrrr. That you think laws unique to Flordia have anything to do with it suggests that you don't know the b...

Jan Steen wrote: Were Zimmerman's injuries consistent with "repeatedly smashing Zimmerman's head against the concrete"?

Yes. That was made clear in the trial.

Where do you think the injuries to the back of GZ's head came from?

I'm glad the black kid got shot and the white/cuban guy got acquitted by the white jury in florida because that sure will piss off the SJWs at FTB hurrr boy howdy. Good fucking laws Florida. Durrrr. That you think laws unique to Flordia have anything to do with it suggests that you don't know the b...

Argh I fucked the quoting up there. Sorry.

-"We don't need you to [follow him]" is not an order. "Obeyed" is not the right word. Literally semantics. Semantics are kinda important. -The dispatcher did not order or even suggest that GZ should stay in his car. My bad. -GZ was already out of his car when the dispatcher said "we don't need you ...

One of the more common tropes being repeated is that Zimmerman should have obeyed the 911 operator, but I dunno. Of course police always advise people not to take the law into their own hands (in fact, didn't they use to advise women not to resist rapists?), but don't responsible citizens have an e...

Anyway my 2 pence, if Zimmerman had obeyed the 911 operator and stayed in his car and not followed Martin ( who was doing nothing wrong ) thus precipitating a physical confrontation (even if we believe Zimmerman's story 100%) the boy would still be alive today. I think, given what we know for certa...

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