If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

http://skepchick.org/2012/08/speaking-o ... an-barker/

Dan Barker has spoken out - you can clearly tell he's just trying to have another pop at religion!

Pretty mild comment though - again, no real disagreement here.

I think Nugent is just referring to OB's claim. Hence why he keeps saying 'hoggle/ivanoff'. I don't think he's familiar with franc and the various things OB is talking about. There's a slightly sinister idea in what he's saying however - and that's the idea that we should try to stop someone by find...

http://skepchick.org/2012/08/speaking-o ... el-nugent/

A guy called 'wicknight' is finding out how much the Skepchick commentariat value disagreement and evidence.

http://skepchick.org/2012/08/speaking-out-against-hate-directed-at-women-michael-payton/ Which supports the case that these people 'speaking out' are not necessarily speaking out in support of FTB. Read the comments - they're trying to square the idea of someone opposing FTB while also being against...

Paula Kirby and 'CoffeeLovingSkeptic' get a lot of criticism for having once said 'feminazi'. There doesn't seem to be any outrage about FTBer AronRa saying it. Hmmm. Also, who is @ElevatorGATE on Twitter? Anyone know? I was just wondering if it was anyone here. As for the changes on Pharyngula, mak...

Tim Farley has checked some IPs (on another site recently - I think it was FTB) and said that it IS him. https://twitter.com/krelnik/status/230860125257211904 Of course, that doesn't mean that our guy isn't a copycat, but we can at least base our reasoning on the knowledge that the real deal is acti...

xjustos2 wrote:some sort of STRONG RESPONSE had to be made to this:

http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=43

I think even Randi agrees with you there!

And Louis is a very smart, gentle, pleasant fellow. He is actually the only person from the A/S community I ever met in real life. We spent a whole day with him, his wife and kid in UK. That's strange! I wonder if the Pharyngulites know that their mate Louis has been spotted associating on friendly...

I like it when people say you shouldn't believe anything on Wikipedia because "anyone can write it". I wonder if they believe everything they read in books...

New post from the f00t of thunder:

http://thunderf00tdotorg.wordpress.com/ ... privilege/

Second: Hey slyme pitters, isn't it highly hyporicitcal of you guys to accept whatever written by a guest and not be what-so-ever skeptical at all, while deny the "upskirt photography" charges and insist that "we are all bloody skeptics! We need evidence to accept things, RAWR"?!? I can only speak ...

Oh gosh, is the strong language too much for you? I'm just playing by YOUR rules here...so stop crying. No, it's just childish, pointless, and betrays the over-emotional nature of your response. Oh I see; that's what this is then "opposing nonsense" http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=21&p=18...

Sure about that? http://slymepit.com/phpbb/search.php?keywords=twatson EXACTLY YOU FUCKING MORON!!!!!! So why the whining here about Watson somehow depriving the Stop Stoning campaign of attention? Fucking hypocrites... Stop shouting and name-calling just because you're losing the argument. Nobody ...

Or does RebeCUNT TWATson I note that the only instance of anyone here calling RW that is an FTBer. Speaks volumes. "Dear Alex An, I'm sorry you're suffering in prison but PZ MYERS DIDN"T ACKNOWLEDGE MY AWESOMENESS ON HIS BLOG!!!1!! so you'll understand that I have to focus my efforts on that instea...

Apparently they're all talking about FTB at TAM: https://twitter.com/IDoubtIt/status/224268104870531072 What I'd give to be a fly on the wall! Also, sounds like Cornwell was going after FTB in her talk - I'm not sure whether she explicitly mentioned them, but you can tell that's what she must have h...

If a guest posts something that makes the forum look bad, then it might well be someone deliberately trying to make the forum look bad. #justsaying

Sorry, I just find the entire thing really childish from both sides. I wish we could all agree to disagree and just work on the real work. I agree the bickering in the hashtag is childish - but I think the original hashtag (used by Rich Sanderson,Jeremy Stangroom and Paula Kirby) was just a way of ...

Skeeve wrote:The FTBullies are using the #FTBullies as well.
The clue is in the message as to who they are.

Yes - she was using it in the non-hijacking way.

Oh, I see it's from Falk's blog. Surely if it was real there would have been a HUGE outcry? I'm skeptical...

Is that real? Are you friends with him on FB?

By the way - I'm seeing Heather Henderson (of Ardent Atheists) stand up to the nonsense and use the #FTBullies hashtag. Our numbers ('us' being vocal opponents of FTBad) have grown considerably in the last month or so.

Shorter Heintje: "Bitchez ain't shit."

Good observations Tigzy! Yes, I hadn't mentioned the "Stop. Please stop.", but I hate that as much as I hate the "privilege" card, or "you don't get it".

ERV wrote:NO.

[...]

We DISAGREE.

All I have wanted from DAY ONE is the right to DISAGREE.

You're ri... I agree!

I'm sorry, but this thread is commonly referred to as the "slimepit". Please start rabidly attacking and insulting each other. We have a reputation to uphold, and this discussion is far too rational.

this is not an indictment of the entire FtB team. I think everyone here would agree with you. Chris Hallquist looks like a good guy, as does Justin Griffith and I don't have any problem with Cristina Rad or AronRa (I must admit I'm not that familiar with them though). There are probably a few other...

I always think of Franc as 'Renegade Shep'

Or 'Chaotic Good' in Baldur's Gate?

I read some of the expected comments... TF called on the comwenters to write strawmen for PZ and it some of them read like the pharangulation of FTBullies... But the funniest thing I saw was a new name coined for FfTBs... Closedthoughtblogs... got me thinking of different adjectives for what passes...

From here : this argument of â€œI donâ€™t wanna ask for a hug! Wah!â€ is at best derailing from the real issue (harassment) and at worst the mark of someone who also doesnâ€™t hear the word â€œnoâ€. In other words, bitchez ainâ€™t shit. *girds loins for upcoming onslaught of whiney d00dz* I want t...

If there's one positive takeaway I have from all this, it's that the FtBers have made me a lot less critical of religion. When atheists hit the screamy extreme of the baboons, it puts everything into perspective. It's fucked up crazy dogma that's the real problem, fundamentalist religion is just th...

Hi everyone. Is anyone here 'skepdirt'? Looks like they just got suspended from Twitter.

We all express ourselves differently. I have absolutely no problem with Justin's bio.

Justin, I can't see the original Facebook page. Is that because we're not friends? Is Ophelia your FB friend? If not, I wonder how she saw it...

Thanks Justin, I'll have a listen.

Yes. I was just brainstorming but I agree with you. I don't like the new tagline either, but then I'm a bit of a prude.

Optimus:

Giving someone the benefit of the doubt? You hyper skeptic!

But yes, you're right. I think it's difficult to tell what Justin is really thinking about all this, given PZ's email to him and what happened to Thunderf00t etc.

franc wrote:Clifford's credo

Yes! I love that paper.

Introduce yourself with whatever personal details you fancy revealing. I'll go first: I'm a 29 year old male from the UK. I'm just about done with my Philosophy MA. I'm an atheist and a political left-winger (my primary interests are workers' rights and freedom of expression). I like 'classical' mus...

Here's a thread to document misogyny approved by FTB. 1) 'Chill girl' 2) 'Sister punisher' 3) 'Gender traitor' All these seem to be used to dismiss the opinions of women who disagree with them. Last night, they swamped the #FTBullies hashtag on Twitter to drown out Paula Kirby. That's not misogyny e...

I was watching a video by DJ and he gave this quote by Bertrand Russell as a working definition of scepticism: "I wish to propose for the reader's favourable consideration a doctrine which may, I fear, appear wildly paradoxical and subversive. The doctrine in question is this: that it is undesirable...

franc wrote:Lucky I have my shovel handy. Managed to retrieve it.

You genius!

Agreed. Or at least if we must have it, make that forum private & members only so people from the outside can't start quoting it. Edit: And yes, please get rid of the 'kick' reference... Edit 2: What about getting rid of the kick reference in the forum's subtitle as well? What about "we read FTB so ...

I probably wouldn't post much philosophy in there, but the conversation sometimes turned to philosophy (or whether philosophy was worthwhile). What do you think?

Intriguing... I wonder if it'll ever appear?

I voted for 3, but could have voted for 1 or 4!

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