If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Not sure that banning is appropriate â€“ free speech and all that, the sine qua non (more or less) of The Pit, if Iâ€™m not mistaken. More reasonable just to stomp all over them with hobnail boots â€“ figuratively speaking, of course â€¦. I don't have a problem with banning on a blog, actually. I'd...

Oh right, yes, I'd ban someone on that basis.

What I wouldn't do is imply that they were a blogger at FTB, or something.

Hang on - you noticed that that last name in the dungeon, 'Jenkem Jones' is in the dungeon as "Racist slyme"? I don't know what allegedly racist thing they posted, I can't read it. But I don't think they've posted here before. Calling them 'slyme' implies that they post here, which seems dishonest, ...

Al just got the red font treatment:

PZ Myers wrote:Bye, Al. This is a slymepit-free zone.

What a nice way to treat an ex-co-blogger.

You know who else banned people because they also post in a forum they don't like? Marc Lepine.

Kudos to Al for defending this forum on a Pharyngula thread, and trying to shatter the myth that it's just a load of misogynistic hater anti-feminist MRA sexist trolls plotting real-life harm against those seeking equal rights. Also, the term â€œsurrounding yourselfâ€ is usually relegated to real w...

Well who's he talking about? I don't complain about women or feminists or 'manginas', so presumably I'm not a mass murderer. That said - it's a completely ludicrous thing to say. By that token, as others have noted - all atheists are cowardly wannabe mass-murderers. I also find it slightly weird tha...

I read it. I think it was about John Kerry being responsible for the Holocaust. Because John Kerry is German, or French, or something. And we know that Hitler was French. Then... Sod it. QED.

Hehe - I would be more fun, I promise. I'm just trying to prevent my throwaway light-hearted comments being made into entire blog posts... again. *cough* Almost Diamonds *cough*

I do believe she's being sarcastic about the book, which to be fair, is fucking stupid. That's how I read it. On that subject - all this 'thin/fat/white/male/hetero privilege' stuff is a load of rubbish, I think. Am I privileged? Yes. Why? Because my upbringing was very very easy, and I come from a...

Yes, I saw that. That last bit reads like a good parody - in fact if someone did write it as a parody I'd be saying "now come on, they're not that bad!"

Croft seems desperate to grasp any defence of Rebecca, however tenuous, and elevate (ahem!) it to the level of a reasonable response. Possibly, or it could be that he's defending himself . After all, he applauded and wrote about the talk originally, only to find that most of the skeptic community s...

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2012/12/04/everyone-expects-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-157483 Stop studying [rape]. Start doing something useful, like speaking out against it. . Yes, of course we should speak out against it - but why not do both? Why not try to combat rape by study...

The 'targeting' accusation is just an ad hominem, and even then it doesn't follow from any of those tweets. I commented on the post - in moderation so far.

What's his definition of 'Slymepitter'? I mean, how many times do you have to post here to get yourself banned on Pharyngula? Would Al Stefanelli now get banned? Would ERV get banned? Would Justin Griffith get banned (he posted for a bit on the ERV threads). What about Jen McCreight? Emily Dietle? P...

Dick Strawkins wrote:Barbara Drescher is on fire in the comments.

As always!

soldierwhy wrote:Fucking patriarchy

School teaching assistant Emma Webb jailed for pupil sex offences

I know a woman jailed for a consensual lesbian relationship with her pupil. She got 15 months I think. Melanie Phillips of the Daily Mail even did a hit job on her...

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/12/03/oh-gob-evo-psych-again/comment-page-1/#comment-503341 How about proving evidence that Evo psych isnâ€™t just a sexistâ€™s most recent convenient excuse? Seriously suggesting that the field of evolutionary psychology is just a 'sexist's convenient exc...

You may have already heard that Ed Clint, a guy who has been dedicated to bashing Skepchick and Freethoughtblogs for over a year Has he? I'm pretty sure he hasn't, actually. All I can remember is that he was accused of making 'Freethought Blahgs', and it's pretty clear that wasn't even him! Well I ...

What's the 'gendered naming convention'? Does she mean calling Rebecca Watson 'Rebecca'? I don't think that's gendered. I'm about to write a post on this and I'll probably refer to Ed Clint as 'Ed'.

It is interesting that noone in the audience challenged anything about the talk at all... It's even worse. James Croft is Harvard educated (so is Laden, I know, I know) and he swallowed it whole. Plus, he's in love . The rest is just as gushy. He thinks Watson flayed junk science and we're all bett...

JayTeeAitch wrote:I should add that in my previous example, it is always a man saying it to another man. Also, since it was a London example, I should have spelt cunt as cant.

Oh yes I should have added the same caveat. I almost never hear women called these things.

argument it is some sort of term of endearment in certain parts of the UK is bollocks I'm English and I've definitely heard it used as a term of endearment. It's not a very articulate one of course. As an insult it's just a swear-word that's swearier than 'dick'. 'Twat' is very common indeed, and '...

...as if the latter was saying, â€œAw, come on man â€“ I thought you were on â€˜ourâ€™ sideâ€... Yep and that's pretty much been my problem with the whole thing since the start. I don't like the way a discussion on any issue always seems to be brought round to a discussion or comment about the ind...

I just had another look at the AntiAtheismPlus subreddit. They're seriously deleting all posts and comments that aren't 100% opposed to atheism+. Do these guys even know what it is they're objecting to?!

Well, I don't consider someone on 'our side' just because they're an MRA. I'm not an MRA and I'm not fighting for 'men's rights'. I'm also using 'sides' talk slightly ironically (hence why I always put it in scare-quotes) - it's a lot more complex than us-vs-them, I realise. Also, I think the person...

What? The AntiAtheismPlus subreddit mod just deleted my anti-atheismplus post because apparently that subreddit is only for anti-atheismplus posts. Er...

Say what you want about the 'other side'. Some people on 'our side' are stupid as hell.

Skepdirt seems to think he has evidence linking OOLON to ElevatorGATE's blog going down. http://skepdirt.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/who-was-behind-elevatorgates-suspension/ What do they mean by members only forum? I'm a member but I can't access it. If they meant admin only forum then how come oolan ...

That's half the reason why I don't post on Pharyngula. I'd go straight in the dungeon with a comment about how I'm a racist, a sexist, a homophobe, stupid, dumb, idiotic and worst of all, a 'Slymepitter'. The other half is that the commenters there don't value rational discussion, so it would be poi...

I just got blocked by Hensley, even though I had unfollowed ElevatorGATE, and never interacted with her once. However, she can't take that chance. She simply can't.

This is the Executive Director for CFI-DC we're talking about.

Hang on, I follow ElevatorGATE and I was just criticising them on here - even saying that I could understand why the blog was taken down!

I also follow Sarah Palin on my main account. Case closed.

cunt wrote:
I hope he is just winding them up with all that "hero" stuff, it seems to be working.

I think he just makes our 'side' look bad, but each to their own!

Skeeve wrote:He'll be back.

You can't keep a Brave Hero down.

He will courageously fight back against the forces of darkness, and valiantly defeat the fire-breathing dragons who filed complaints against his blog!

By the way, I tried to find out his age on Twitter, but he won't say!

I'm not sure that ElevatorGATE can complain too much (although I never like censorship). A lot of his posts were overly personal perhaps to the point of outright libel (and you know what the UK is like for libel...). I think Wordpress are within their rights to take something like that down if they ...

Brits might have come across this story from a while ago: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124246/Samantha-Brick-downsides-looking-pretty-Why-women-hate-beautiful.html Basically, a woman decided to talk about herself and what a hard time she has as a woman in her situation. There's a probl...

From that thread:

PZ Myers wrote:You are the patriarchy personified, noelplum99.

noelplum99 wrote:And to think my mother said i would never amount to anything.

Pitchguest wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Just because Josh gives his name out freely doesn't mean you can post his details on THE SLYMEPIT (a known hate site dedicated to stalking Josh).
I thought Josh Slocum wasn't Spokesgay, since they use different user names on FTB. Are they?

They are the same person.

Proof.

Presumably it's something 'worse' than the nontroversy at the last TAM, since she joined at around that time and didn't resign then. Surely something else must have happened. Nobody seems to know about it though.

A tweet from Carrie Poppy (Director of Communications at JREF): https://twitter.com/CarriePoppyYES/status/273154812403662849 I resigned from my position at JREF out of protest. I wish them all well and continue to respect and admire Randi. Thx for all the support. Anyone know what she might be prote...

A completely unrelated thought ;) There are times when you wonder whether outrage at a particular thing is insincere - if they keep using it to score points. For instance, I bet Myriam Francois-Cerrah was delighted that Dawkins allegedly said something controversial that she could tweet about. I'm n...

Amy steps in to the CFI comments claiming I've posted her address on multiple websites: You posted it here (not out of malice, but to rebut a particular claim), regretted it, asked for it to be taken down and it was, and you haven't posted it anywhere else. I wonder if she's deliberately perpetuati...

Am I the only person on the internet who doesn't wet his frillies when he hears the words Dr Who? Nah. I fucking hate it. My housemate pressured me to watch it, and I watched the whole of Matt Smith's first season. I have no idea why people like it. Fortunately he also pressured me to watch Breakin...

Interesting story in the UK today that shows the kind of illiberal thinking that Myers et ass engage in. [...] Yes I saw that- 'twas the main headline on BBC News. The guy who paints my parents' house (a friend of my dad's) - a good guy - votes UKIP. The thought that people like him are unsuitable ...

I've come across Francois-Cerrah before. I'd seen her a few times on The Big Questions (I have no idea why I watch it!) and she's really annoying. Always got a holier-than-thou look on her face and always looking for sources of outrage by atheists. I'm very skeptical that she's interpreting Dawkins ...

Dick Strawkins wrote:Ha!
They haven't noticed that Michael Nugent's list includes the following:

Abbie Smith, scientist and blogger

And Paula Kirby! This wiki is a very UNsafe space. I'm scared just browsing over there, to be honest.

Tony Parsehole wrote:I always shake my head when I hear or read "people of colour". Calling black people "coloured" is racist but "people of colour" is perfectly fine.

I'm the same. Imagine replacing 'spastic' with 'person of spasticity'...

http://atheismplus.com/wiki/index.php?t ... f_Atheists

Atheism+ wiki's 'List of Atheists' comprises two female-only lists and one list of 'atheists of colour'.

Seriously - a list of atheists that doesn't include Richard Dawkins or Bertrand Russell.

Dick Strawkins wrote:She usually only references youtube comments!

Boom boom!

You know standards are dropping when the citations and quotes are from Amazon reviews... there is an exception to every rule though. The Amazon reviews of the Bic For Her Ballpoint pen were probably the best thing I've read - like ever. OK, Im not all that well read - I'll give you that Hey don't r...

You know standards are dropping when the citations and quotes are from Amazon reviews...

Dick Strawkins wrote:http://i.imgur.com/zuIET.jpg
[picture included for context]

Love it!

Ok @ElevatorGATE simply HAS to be a joke/parody account. Just read this post: https://elevatorgate.wordpress.com/2012/11/22/press-release-i-want-becky-damages-from-becky/ Why, does this seem insurmountable to you? She said things that were simply untrue. I agree that they seem untrue (he supposedly...

Ok @ElevatorGATE simply HAS to be a joke/parody account. Just read this post: https://elevatorgate.wordpress.com/2012 ... rom-becky/

mutleyeng wrote:Starkey is nearly always out of line - but he's bloomin funny

That's true - even when he's doing something I dislike it's usually in a 'pantomime villain' sort of way.

I don't think he'd like me very much (with my lefty opinions), and I wouldn't like to get into an argument with him.

All I could catch of her excuse was something about...flying out...being set up..blah blah, though. I think it was that she charged such a high fee so she wouldn't have to put up with the sort of events that are 'violent' to her... Notice at the start she also had a go at the event organisers (Well...

I'm sure you've all seen this vid before but I've only just come across it. It's (born working class) David Starkey, historian, handing left-wing middle-class public school educated feminist, Laurie Penny, her ass. Christ - I often dislike Starkey but he utterly destroyed her. Yes, it was a gratuit...

I don't believe for a moment ElevatorGATE is actually worried about DMCA legal action. He is, after all, just as much a drama queen as some of the Baboons. In fact, all of his (fake) paranoid tweeting about people harassing him is starting to sound like Scurvy Amy. Despite this though, he is a dece...

If you have to put your real address on the cDMCA, wouldn't it be bound by some Data Protection agreement? So if someone were, say, to tell other people what it was, wouldn't that also be against the law?

It's his blog that got DMCAed (and likely shut down), which is a completely separate entity from his twitter account. Whoops - that's right. Still I think if he finds himself in any danger he should just retire. I know that's unbecoming of a 'brave hero' but that's what I would do. Maybe he should ...

Tigzy wrote:Doubtful he could get extradited - if the US couldn't extradite Gary McKinnon (and the crimes he was accused of were about a billion-zillion times more serious), then I expect few people are going to waste time over such a piddling matter.

I didn't see this when I wrote my reply...

I should have called my last post "Women Bishops 101", since it was so amazing that everybody must start there and base their own opinions off mine. The post before: "Ad Hominem 101" since it was perfectly correct in every way, and it should be used to educate everyone so they can be just as inform...

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