If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Not sure I'd go - seems like about half of the speaker list are interesting, but I'm more interested in philosophy really, and they don't seem to have any philosophers. Did Louise Antony turn them down, or didn't they ask her? What about Barbara Drescher? Eugenie Scott? Carolyn Porco? Ayaan Hirsi Al...

d4m10n wrote: I want to start a fund to send Vacula and maybe Notung. Please send in your applications to me at PutPittersInWomenInSecularism@gnumail.com

Why me, out of interest?

I vote ElevatorGATE, if just for the fun factor. He'll have to do his Storifying the old way - pen and paper, and a good ear.

I like how Carrier's said nothing about A+ pretty much since its beginning, but now he's the expert. I remember that even McCreight distanced herself from his early posts. Also, I'd like to see him try to survive on the atheismplus forum. I give him 10 posts on there before he gets himself banned - ...

Carrier hasn't said 'GTFO' yet, like last time. I'm actually quite looking forward to the first batch of comments to that post. Should be funny.

I know I complain about ElevatorGATE, but his Storifys today have been really juicy. Twitter is drama-central today. Martin Robbins blocking Natalie Reed, Rhys Morgan blocking Julian, Dawkins being bugged about a 'racist' joke about trousers on his Facebook page (which he doesn't maintain)... http:/...

Jan Steen wrote:"Atheism plus is pining for the fjords."

:p

Carrier's hilarious post linked to this: http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymiller/2013/01/04/no-true-scotsman-atheists-apathy/ She seems to go from "we all get annoyed when moderate Christians claim that they don't see the extremists as 'real Christians', innit" to "you shouldn't stay out of the ske...

It may be a worthwhile petition, but the charges against the two men don't have anything to do with blasphemy or what happened to Alexander Aan - despite the name, moharebeh is used against people who have allegedly taken up arms against the state. If you follow the link I posted earlier, they have...

For anyone who missed it earlier - there IS a petition worth signing: http://skepticink.com/notung/2013/01/13 ... xecutions/

masakari2012 wrote:Noelplum99's deleted comment on Adam Lee's blog.

Yes I saw tha... DELETED? These people are really scared of opposing views, aren't they?

Cheers Pitchguest, I didn't notice before. I signed the petition and promoted it on Twitter. I'll try to get a blog post out about it today.

I love Wagner! "Sigfried's funeral" is an amazing piece of music. Do you like Rachmaninov by any chance? A bit - haven't listened to him that much. I once played trombone (i.e. counted rests) in the 3rd piano concerto - that was pretty good. Yep, Wagner is hard to get into (his structures are huge)...

Funny thing is, one of PZ's minions accused me of racism because of my YT username. His logic was pretty simple: "Bhurzum" sounds like "Burzum" (infamous one-man-band who set fire to churches, murdered his friend, spouted extreme right wing views etc) therefore I'm racist. Wagner was an raving anti...

I don't know anything about law, as you can probably tell.

If they're attacking the Reddit commenters for attacking ZJ then they also have to attack the Guardian commenters, as they're also attacking ZJ. By the way, I'm not sure why she's on the defence. Surely they have all the knowledge she has, in the form of those chat logs. Is it just so she can say "y...

I promise I don't usually read it, but I clicked a random link from 'ElevatorGATE' (A brave hero, and The Saviour of the JREF, no less). The post is absurd as usual, but I saw this: I think heâ€™s [Rhys Morgan] bright and cute as a button* (no homo) and, without giving too much away, our ages arenâ€...

Yep - she's mates with Barbara Drescher and the TAM lot I think, but as an FTBer she seems neutral to me. By the way, look at her comment policy. I get a mention!

Has noone noticed that his own minions have turned on him? It's happened before- search for "Bunnygate". And I loved the episode (let's face it, it's a soap opera) where the geneticist was arguing with the commenters about the meaning of 'phenotype', and they were accusing him of not knowing what h...

It's funny that they seem to think she's talking about Reap Paden (somehow), and that they think she's an 'ally'. I suspect she'd think they're nuts like most others do. Call it a hunch. By the way, Ryan Grant Long designed the Skeptic Ink logo. I think it's brilliant. He's also got a Women's Studie...

I read that little post by PZ about his self-importance. I could almost see him dribbling from his mouth as he furiously typed, laughing maniacally when he hit send. I browsed the comments and saw the ban hammer come down on Long after just one civil comment. PZ is losing it. For the reason that Lo...

decius wrote:A 30-minute post limit imposed on selected posters could bring the tripe rate down to more tolerable levels.

Clearly you're an inexperienced SlimePitter. I'm now a master at mouse-wheeling very quickly through the vast reams of (putting it politely) stuff I'm not interested in. ;)

Dick Strawkins wrote:He links (HT to OBs place) to the story about Justin, so it's fair to assume he was talking about a specific case, namely Justin Vacula.

I get the reference to him, but I don't see that he's mocking JV or JV's argument - unless I'm not getting the whole joke, perhaps.

I'm with Strawkins on this. I don't think it's a big deal, but if I was the sort to donate to bloggers then this would cause me to think twice about it next time. As it happens, I don't donate to bloggers, since you don't know what they're going to spend it on. I don't have a donate button on my blo...

Strawkins - I thought that J&M comic was funny, but I didn't see it really making fun of anyone in particular- rather it was just referencing the recent drama about 'guy thing'.

By the way, the Author is following me on the Twitters.

Just catching up (jesus this thread moves quickly)... Anyone noticed how Thunderf00t was careful to say "'feminism'" (in scare-quotes) rather than "feminism" (without quotes) - and draw attention to this point at the top of the video's information section, and that everyone arguing against him is co...

I have no interest in AVfM (and some of the comments I see there are completely nuts) but that person is right - lots of people are becoming MRAs and flocking there due to the persecution they're getting. Try to suppress something and you end up making it more popular.

Sid Rodrigues wrote:Their [The Skepchicks'] hypocrisy can only go so far.

I claim Pat Robertson and Rick Warren as part of the atheist movement. Tough luck, Pat and Rick - say goodbye to your congregations.

The FTBers/A+ers have a habit of: 1) getting offended 2) admonishing the offender and backing the offender into a corner 3) if the offender does anything other than grovel he is immediately accused of ' making this all about himself Many fundamentalist religious people are better at arguing than th...

Barbara Drescher brilliantly sums up Pharyngula:

"You don't have the right to not be offended. Or to offend me."

PZ has a wordpress plugin installed on his blog that automatically tweets his blog-posts out with a link. Like this: My glamorous New Yearâ€™s Eve: Well, itâ€™s time for my usual wild night of partyingâ€¦oh, wait. I never do that. My w... bit.ly/Z6pcGy He deactivated it for that latest thunderf00t ...

I see these people who type "RT" then what the retweet should have been, but I don't see any links to a tweet from JREF which was the original. I also don't see any evidence that JREF actually made those tweets, except for a pic which I can't verify that wasn't photoshopped. Though, if I take your ...

So it looks a lot like these tweets were unauthorised, and quickly deleted by whoever is supposed to run the account (DJ I presume). It's stopped now, so I'm guessing the password has been changed.

Masakari - I'm pretty sure it was the official account. You could see the tweets when you clicked on their page. The replies to it also link to the correct account.

I agree about the fake accounts. I'm totally against the fake @OpheiiaBenson accounts, etc. She's right to complain about it.

I like the Balotelli avatar. In some ways the Slymepit is a lot like Mario.

Darren, I was wondering the same thing. We still don't know why she quit.

And now THAT'S deleted!

Now the JREF is retweeting RW's old tweet about rape and 'unable to consent'. Why now? What's going on...

Oh, just seen the earlier post. So the JREF DID tweet that. Why tweet that then delete it? Did someone have access to the account and got a bit drunk? Or did DJ tweet it himself? If the latter, then why delete it?

On Twitter: RT @jref: New years resolution: don't attack women for speaking out about feeling uncomfortable. https://twitter.com/dELYSEious/status/286000069814136833 Did the JREF really tweet that?! She seems to say they did: @kvbeek looks like the tweet was deleted :( https://twitter.com/dELYSEious...

cunt wrote:Brown has already done this.
http://derrenbrown.co.uk/claim-claim-2/

Cheers - that's a useful link.

Oh, it's already New Year here in the East. Happy New Year!

We were talking about Derren Brown a few weeks ago. I think with 'cunt' and someone else. If anyone's interested, here's a longer version of my opinion.

http://skepticink.com/notung/2012/12/31 ... ren-brown/

Let's not forget that (apparently) Justin himself posted on the original 'slimepit' for a while, after all that happened.

acathode wrote:[Jussi Bjorling singing O Holy Night]

THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

Merry Christmas all!

welch wrote:here, a longer version of what I'm on about: http://dissentionisnothate.wordpress.co ... ca-watson/

Hehe - well you do things your way and I'll do things my way! :)

But John, I'm not arguing against them as such. I'm using it as a catalyst for a post for its own sake. I don't expect them to engage me at all, and if they do it'll be some kind of ad hominem , as we all know. It's really just to talk about the issue of intoxication and consent in a rational way. S...

You mean talking about it rather than ignoring it? Well partly because I wanted to say why it was that some people appeared to be 'admitting' to being rapists. It wasn't because they are rapists, as Watson seems to imply. I also wanted to write a post on the subject in general - Watson's accusations...

I'm taking that statement seriously. That doesn't mean I think that her blog post was an important philosophical paper!

I blogged about all this: http://skepticink.com/notung/2012/12/19 ... o-consent/

Challenge modes are serious business. I used to play Guild Wars (the first one) a lot and hated it when good groups could spot that I had no idea what the hell I was doing and kicked me out! I remember it was "how do you get a high rank? Win games. How do you win games? Join a good group. How do yo...

Witchy McSexist wrote:it's perform or GTFO because I take the game seriously and don't want to waste my time with underperforming players.

Oh god, Justin, you're one of those! I hate people like you!

;)

Just woke up to the predictable outcome that Shermer's post has caused some ripples. What I didn't expect was the Spanish Inquisition that Shermer would tweet a link to 'Phawrongula'! By the way, I think Myers is confused. The 'brave hero' stuff is '@ElevatorGATE', and he doesn't post on the Slymepi...

I should say what it is - it's Shermer responding to claims he's an evil misogynist. First comment from him on the whole skeptidrama phenomenon.

I'll just leave this here: http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/12-12-12/#feature

NEVER FORGET: Today a nurse at a hospital looking after Princess Kate killed herself because she was pranked by a couple of Australian DJs. I remember the event vividly. It came up on Twitter and later on news sites confirmed it. I know some nurses, and also know some people who have been pranked by...

NEVER FORGET: Today is the 71st anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. I dont remember following the events of that day intently, as I was not even born. But all of my male relatives who were of age served in WWII. I am horrified that there are people who will kill Americans simply because they...

I'm pretty sure Kagin's post was a joke.

Skeeve wrote:I had a change of heart re: Tony.

M*ngina is not in my online vocabulary anymore.

Respect that.

Good on you. I hate the word.

New Pharyngula post - this time Chris Clarke. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/?p=8286 He's essentially saying "All PZ did was write a nice memorial post and all you misogynists came in to talk about your own actions. This proves our point". No it doesn't! It wasn't a nice memorial post, it wa...

Aye, thereâ€™s the rub. One personâ€™s â€œtrolling/issuing personal attacks and carrying on after being asked to stopâ€ is another personâ€™s â€œdisagreeingâ€. Very true - but since I'm in control of my blog I get to decide that! That said - I'll always try to get it right, partly because if I fa...

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