If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

PeeZee will not debate anyone, or even make more than a drive-by comment for that matter, anywhere where he doesn't control the situation. Kind of like a kid in grade school who's willing to fight you, but only in his mom's living room, with mom, dad and two older brothers in attendance. What an as...

For completeness here is the list from our 'side' in one post. Skep Tickle (Moderator) Renee Gurdur (Timothy Skellett) Wonderist Jack Their side has only announced one that I am aware of: Stephanie Zvan As an aside on her blog about this she said: 'I canâ€™t tell you how this is going to go. All I c...

PeeZee will not debate anyone, or even make more than a drive-by comment for that matter, anywhere where he doesn't control the situation. Kind of like a kid in grade school who's willing to fight you, but only in his mom's living room, with mom, dad and two older brothers in attendance. What an as...

<snip> Good post. PZ Myers seems to be a basic humanist, who simply pronounces women's rights at the moment as there is some work to do. This is all valid. But then he throws curve-balls with feminist theory terms that appear to be not integrated into anything. Of course it's fine to cobble togethe...

Hopefully Christmas comes early and they name Wowbagger and Nerd of Redhead as two of their representatives. You can't buy that kind of entertainment. Can you cite an academic/scientific/government paper to back up your claims, or can we *floosh* dismiss it without even bothering to refute it? Woul...

One thing I'm not understanding is this whole super secret back channel approach to the set-up for these discussions. Why not announce the initial participants? Why not publicly discuss moderation policies? What role does the "moderator" for each "side" play? How does it help the process to keep th...

One thing I'm not understanding is this whole super secret back channel approach to the set-up for these discussions. Why not announce the initial participants? Why not publicly discuss moderation policies? What role does the "moderator" for each "side" play? How does it help the process to keep th...

One thing I'm not understanding is this whole super secret back channel approach to the set-up for these discussions. Why not announce the initial participants? Why not publicly discuss moderation policies? What role does the "moderator" for each "side" play? How does it help the process to keep th...

Skeptickle, Renee, and Jack are pretty darned good representatives. Wonderist is a machine when he gets going. This might be fun, even if it doesn't solve global warming and that whole religion thing. It'd be even more fun if Steersman was on the team. But I don't think there'd be enough :popcorn: ...

It might not be a bad idea to have a dedicated thread for the Nugent dialogue thing - that way, anyone who has an interest but isn't actually involved can help out with any necessary links, google-fu, examples, evidence and other viewpoints. That's something that needs to be considered and makes co...

Skeptickle, Renee, and Jack are pretty darned good representatives. Wonderist is a machine when he gets going. This might be fun, even if it doesn't solve global warming and that whole religion thing. It'd be even more fun if Steersman was on the team. But I don't think there'd be enough :popcorn: ...

rayshul wrote:By their logic I don't think I've ever had non-rape sex.

I think it was Ed Clint who said that too with the usual responses.

Myself and Renee are the other two. It was based on who expressed an interest. There is and never was any claim we represent anyone else. As said this is an initial kick start, hopefully it will expand as time goes by. Good luck to all of you! Thanks. As I said before if anyone has any questions pl...

Myself and Renee are the other two. It was based on who expressed an interest. There is and never was any claim we represent anyone else. As said this is an initial kick start, hopefully it will expand as time goes by. Good luck to all of you! Thanks. As I said before if anyone has any questions pl...

Myself and Renee are the other two. It was based on who expressed an interest. There is and never was any claim we represent anyone else. As said this is an initial kick start, hopefully it will expand as time goes by. Good luck to all of you! Thanks. As I said before if anyone has any questions pl...

Ophie is already shitting on Nugent's plans, by blaming Skepsheik, and reprinting, so to speak, the entire PeeZus and O cartoons: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2013/03/dedicated-dialogue/ I bet she's freaking over this. It undermines her whole schtick. I'm actually surprised Svan...

I have no idea what to make of Aratina Cage's politeness on Nugent's blog. It's completely throwing me off. Truth be told I like the change of pace because it actually feels like a conversation, idle banter and whatnot, but it's bizarre. He comes off as quite reasonable there and answers all object...

Uh-oh! Ophie and Adam Lee are now on McEwan's enemies list. Deep rifts be aforming. http://www.shakesville.com/2013/03/this-also-happened.html I am watching with great glee as both Myers and Lee, slimy, lying shitheads both, are being treated to exactly the same dishonest, self-centered, holier-tha...

I have no idea what to make of Aratina Cage's politeness on Nugent's blog. It's completely throwing me off. Truth be told I like the change of pace because it actually feels like a conversation, idle banter and whatnot, but it's bizarre. He comes off as quite reasonable there and answers all object...

.....and do you know who else apart from Svan? Mods..don't know yet. It hasn't started. Svan..the only one I am aware of right now. As I said before I do not like the secret squirrel crap and I will never lie without an extremely good reason. It's why we all agreed to name ourselves ASAP. 1. We wan...

Here. http://www.michaelnugent.com/ We hope to start the structured dialogue some time this week, on a new website dedicated to this project: http://atheistskepticdialogue.com The process will be moderated by a team that includes people from both perceived â€˜sidesâ€™ to keep the dialogue construct...

I seem to be kvetching a lot about Nugent's efforts and I should probably correct that by saying that I think his intentions (after a shakey start) are laudable. There have been some good comments made (although nothing that hasn't been said elsewhere), but a few serial idiots ensure that talk neve...

I seem to be kvetching a lot about Nugent's efforts and I should probably correct that by saying that I think his intentions (after a shakey start) are laudable. There have been some good comments made (although nothing that hasn't been said elsewhere), but a few serial idiots ensure that talk neve...

I just came across a post from Brony. I actually agree with everything that he says (I may have missed some nuances) The post is on A+ and I have not yet read the replies but I do like his approach. It seems fair and trying to achieve the truth. If he or others debated or discussed with any here on ...

[quote="Gefan"]And, Renee?
You and your man remain in all of our thoughts.[/quote

And mine. I do not always reply to your updates Renee but I am sure like many others we are rooting for you both.

Re: Crommunist and elitism. I totally agree Renee. Quite a few of the Baboon leaders exhibit their middle-class, educated privilege to sneer down their noses at those who might be a bit smelly, working class, and HORROR OF HORRORS, those who might be slightly socially awkward. I have seen these hou...

FrankGrimes wrote:Jeez, I'm a bit slow aren't I? Didn't realise that the Dongle thing was all over mainstream news. Duh!

Not slow, just you have something called 'a life'. Cherish it:)

Apologies if this has already been posted: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/03/25/adria_richards_her_firing_online_harassment_show_how_sexual_harassment_endures.html It is conflating what she did with the results of what she did. No one deserves the disgusting reaction she got from the ...

By the way in the UK she could now be successfully suing several hundred people for their comments and many may have been arrested by now. I love the US Constitution but unfortunately the laws dealing with genuine online harassment are something to be looked at very closely I feel. Sort of true, bu...

Thunderf00t isn't letting go of this feminism problem, is he? How many other "high" profile individuals would have been chased away or beaten down, or backed down, by now? He's got guts I'll give him that. I assume he sees it as an affront to reason. I agree. I have no issue with people staying on ...

Apologies if this has already been posted: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/03/25/adria_richards_her_firing_online_harassment_show_how_sexual_harassment_endures.html It is conflating what she did with the results of what she did. No one deserves the disgusting reaction she got from the ...

Thunderf00t isn't letting go of this feminism problem, is he? How many other "high" profile individuals would have been chased away or beaten down, or backed down, by now? He's got guts I'll give him that. I assume he sees it as an affront to reason. I agree. I have no issue with people staying on ...

Jeezus H. Fuckin' Christ! Go out into the real world for a couple of days to get stuff done and the whole frackin' world goes to hell in a handbasket. As usual, it looks like you cretins didn't miss a beat either. Bugger, over 10 pages to catch up on and barely a boring post in the lot. I just fini...

John Greg wrote:Steers is over at Nugent's blog telling people to stop ad hominemming Aratina Cage by pointing out that Aratina Cage spells out as A rat in a Cage.

Fuck, I thought Steers could spell.

:clap:

Pogsurfs trolling. Was kinda obvious he was from the start.

Sheesh. I'll delurk just to add that Crommunist is a vile piece of shit. What the hell is wrong with that guy? Mindboggling hypocrisy as only FTB can manage. I'll delurk also to say that I have to keep reminding myself to avoid clicking links to FTB. I seriously can not stand reading that stuff. It...

Anybody else notice that the big difference between Elevatorgate and Donglegate is the way DG has spilled over into the mainstream in a way EG never really did except for one article in Salon? Makes me wonder: 1. ...the reason for this difference, and 2. ...if RW is dying of envy. 1. Donglegate hap...

Jonathan wrote:I see Crom has posted a rather pathetic justification. Intent isn't magic, old bean. Isn't that the FTB line?

They flip flop on that according to requirements of course. I see that a lot on Nugent's blog posts (Aratina being the latest)

PeeZus Christ, the man is a fucking juvenile demented moron. To wit (http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/22/adria-richards-did-everything-exactly-right/comment-page-3/#comment-587817): golliblog: please address comment #1371. Iâ€™m going to be putting your username in the filter file as ...

Check out my new piece "Adam Leeâ€™s strange views about religious women and male sexuality" http://www.skepticink.com/justinvacula/2013/03/24/adam-lees-strange-views-about-women-and-male-sexuality/ http://i.imgur.com/0ZgqDmD.jpg Good piece, Justin! Don't want to sound patronizing or anything, but ...

Let's start an SP pool. Who do you think will become the next un-person in the eyes of their former FTB/A+ allies? I'm gonna go with the first name that comes to my mind, and guess Brony. I bet it will be kate_waters. Not a bad guess. She's pretty militant and doesn't seem to have a ton of allies. ...

Welp, aritana ducks out just he's about expose the deep neo-nazi / slymepit alliance. Shit, now we'll never know the truth! Or whatever sounds close to the truth. What the fuck ever. Hitler, yeah. Oolon last seen dangling underneath a loose donkey across the english countryside. "lol, this is the o...

Let's start an SP pool. Who do you think will become the next un-person in the eyes of their former FTB/A+ allies? I'm gonna go with the first name that comes to my mind, and guess Brony. It's impossible to predict. They are so irrational no considered thought will get the right answer any more tha...

Starting to wonder a bit about Aratina. Over at Nugent's he justifies saying this on Twitter, â€œSlimepitters would feel right @ home on Stormfront.â€ by saying this: "I think it would be best if I clarify, once again, that I made that suggestion as a bit of rhetoric where the answer is clearly, â...

Pitchguest wrote:Er, Jack, you sure you're not responding to an old comment?

Oh maybe:)

I wanted to comment on Nuggent's blog, but I'm too angry not to be vulgar. What a fucking 'reetard', both him and Martin Wagner. Then we have those fucking psycophants who are too stupid to understand what is being said or what is meant. They continue twist words and ignore previous points made to ...

Wonderist wrote:Jack, check your PMs please. Thanks!

Done, sorted. Thanks.

I am convinced the biggest schism in this entire thing is people who grew up on the Internet before social media and those who entered in the MySpace or later eras. I have noticed that most of the shit stirrers are, for a lack of a better word, old (no offense to those wonderful pitters who are als...

So someone showed up on the new DongleGate thread at Pharyngula and said: I also have to say that while the two guys may have exhibited momentary jerkiness, so have we all at some time or another. And they donâ€™t seem to have contributed at all to the assholes freaking out at Adria Richards â€” in...

Non capito un cazzo. Well, "tough shit" as we say in Aussieland. I've been watching the old Australian soap opera, Prisoner: Cell Block H (aka Caged Women), and I think I've been learning some Australianese. "Fair dinkum", "ripper", "funny buggers", "struth", "buckley's chance", "screws" (prison gu...

An excellent analysis of a lot of the current storms in teacups ... http://acko.net/blog/storms-and-teacups/?hn If you've been paying attention, you'll have seen a lot more discussions about gender, feminism and harrassment lately. The conversation mostly revolves around the latest incident of the ...

Holy shit, is that THE Julian? The "die in a fire" A+theist? If so, Jesus. PZ and the Hivemind really ARE jumping the shark. I was sort of thinking things were settling down a bit, Pharyngula would be a sort of liberal feminist space with a secondary focus on atheism, the Slymepit would criticize t...

Holy shit, is that THE Julian? The "die in a fire" A+theist? If so, Jesus. PZ and the Hivemind really ARE jumping the shark. I was sort of thinking things were settling down a bit, Pharyngula would be a sort of liberal feminist space with a secondary focus on atheism, the Slymepit would criticize t...

CommanderTuvok wrote:http://i.imgur.com/C2HW7om.jpg

Remember folks, DISSENT is "allowed" at Pharyngula.

Reminds me of the Ford quote about the colour of his cars 'You can have any colour you want as long as it's black'.

Did I just write 'it's' for 'its' ? I must be getting tired. I loved your fishy series thanks. Maybe now do Fish in Space or Fishy Amazons or Fish About Town? Thanks, but the fish theme has been milked enough, I think (although - Haifischgeweint?). What's wrong with fish? [youtube]Q54lVO7elt0[/yout...

@Submariner Yep. So that's two long-standing baboons - Julian and EllenBeth - becoming alienated by recent Pharyngula events. Peez, one day it will only be you and Nerd of Redhead at this rate. And frankly, he makes a spambot look like an interesting and erudite conversationalist. Enjoy. Well, it w...

Where's the Steersfish when you need him? Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls 24 March 2013 at 5:32 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment Sorry fuckwit. Youâ€™re fucked up. No evidence, no foul. Either toss in some citations or shut the fuck up. That is if you have honesty and integrityâ€¦. Nerd of Redhea...

Jan Steen wrote:Did I just write 'it's' for 'its' ? I must be getting tired.

I loved your fishy series thanks. Maybe now do Fish in Space or Fishy Amazons or Fish About Town?

It looks as if the FTB anti-propaganda against the 'Pit starts to lose it's magic. http://i.imgur.com/4hr0jD4.jpg http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/22/adria-richards-did-everything-exactly-right/comment-page-3/#comment-587307 The reactions are predictable. Got banned for being a Slympi...

Lsuoma wrote:Rhetorical Assassins' Guild == RAG?

Sounds like something Becca should get off, eh?

Maybe we should form the Atheist Rhetorical Secular Assassins.

Anyone else getting bored with bad werdz debate? My comment FWIW..... Michael: Re your OP question. The werdz debate is a red herring. I doubt anyone is srsly bothered about werdz. Theyâ€™re used so mind-numbingly frequently that, imo, theyâ€™ve lost most of any power they ever had to shock or hurt...

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