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Pretty much every group in freethought claims to be â€œgrounded in the open discussion and exchange of ideasâ€ and that includes FtB and CFI. I would agree that the Pyt tends to live up to it a lot more, as we saw with Louis, for example, not to mention all the running disagreements among regulars...

_____________ @ ... AndrewV69 Seeing as how you have Natalie's ear, do you think you could try to explain to her that in point of fact we are not trying to help her in order to score points against FfTB, et al. We are trying to help her because we are humanists and she is a human being in need -- c...

One of my favourites is Brotherhood Of The Wolf (Le Pacte des Loups) , completely ridiculous and fantastic. Set in pre-revolutionary France it has a mysterious werewolf type creature, kung fu fighting red indians (I used that description in case half-fish is reading this), secret cults, Vatican spi...

email from Natalie: (I redacted some details) Btw, while I'm very appreciative that many of the Slymepitters have been supportive, could you pass along that I'm rather uncomfortable with them using me as a device to shame Greta and Avicenna's requests for donations? Both of them had very legitimate ...

Natalie and I have had our disagreements, and there is much about what she writes that I do not agree with. However, I've been homeless and I wouldn't wish that on anyone, not even the FC(n). Just my two cents.. BTW... I got email from Natalie. My impression is that she will be fine. I am not going...

Please - rethink the Natalie Reed funding. With her recent tweets about hair salon appointments, I'm more than a bit worried about sending her any money. When I was just days away from being out on the street, the last thing I was concerned about was a fucking salon appointment. Be very, very wary....

Found the link to the shirt Notung was talking about. Reed was referencing another person's post, but in this post she calls non Trans people "cisholes". http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/03/23/pie-is-scrumptious/ Let me offer some context. If a trans individual can not "pass" and they h...

I just got off the phone to someone I know who is a real SJW and who has a track record of actually getting shit done with Municipal Government Services. If there is anyone who can offer guidance about how she can get housed in a safe and secure environment, this is the guy she should talk to. I exp...

katamari Damassi wrote:
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another lurker wrote:
John Greg wrote:Perhaps the people who regularly fuck up the Show/Hide tags, could, you know, maybe just stop using them?
Hmm?
whenever I use a spoiler, I hit preview first so that I can fix anything that gets fucked up :P
It's that easy!
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Oh fuck all of you. ;)

Ahahahahahaah!

I don't have a problem with comparing numbers and saying that a vast majority of rape is commited by men (although Andrew's post gives some information that could challenge this assumption). But acknowledging that doesn't mean saying that men being raped by women is a non-issue, a non-problem or so...

Let me highlight for you the fucking moronic part: "Typhonblue has so thoroughly documented, not only can they do so, but they do so with near as much frequency as men do with their penises." Right. Because there are armies of women running around in Africa raping shit of men and spreading HIV. Rig...

[spoiler] Al, I don't know if you've seen it, but Crommunist is talking about you: http://freethoughtblogs.com/crommunist/2013/01/23/the-duelling-myth-postulate-examined-anti-feminism/ You might have missed it as there's no link to your original post... :roll: [/spoiler]Trying my first freezepage: ...

Wait! What? Woman gets away with rape by marrying her victim http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/woman-gets-away-with-rape-by-marrying-her-victim/ A former Brunswick County teacher charged with having sex with a student pleaded guilty last month to a lesser charge after she married the victim...

I realize this may be old news, but has this post by PZ been mentioned here? [spoiler]http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2013/01/thats-something-to-look-forward-to/#comment-424882 Hey, just a thought: you know who these guys really ought to complain about? The people who actually do t...

Suppose that comment of mine relies too much on one having read the full link. As I subsequently clarified, I was criticising the victim for shaming men who would have used force to stop the rape. I believe I understood what you were trying to say. I hope you did not take my response as being antag...

Apropos of nothing, this is why I can't take setar or the Vancouver/Seattle crazy contingent seriously: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2013/01/florida-naked-carny-poops-masturbates-in-house-while-being-shot-at-intruder If you want true craycray, Florida, Bitches! OK! OK! OK! You win the internet. I wa...

John the Other responds to PeeZuss Christ here: Open letter to Professor PZ Myers: http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/sycophants/open-letter-to-professor-pz-myers/ Although the invitation was made humorously, Iâ€™d like to participate women in secularism conference. Iâ€™m confident you too would l...

Oh Fuck! What will we do if it turns out that men are better than women at raising children? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324624404578255792399791294.html "Just as we saw a feminization of the workplace in the past few decades, with more emphasis on such skills as empathy and listen...

[spoiler] Hey, Francisco Bacopa, I can supply you with lots of addresses in Southeast Texas. Just look in the telephone directory. Here's one for you, Bacopa: <SNIP> I hear there are some real misogynists living there, plus it's within easy walking distance for you. Just pack up your blue paints an...

Andrew. I'm not criticising the guy's actions. It's his macho never hit a lady judgemental attitude that pissed me off. If I've read him right, anyone man who would have hit the rapist in that situation is dishonourable scum. His value system seems a little perverse. He admits to years of trauma ca...

BREAKING NEWS: Military to open combat jobs to women I saw that a bit ago - I'm actually *for* this. I'm against it. It's just another tool of the patriarchy for misogynist MRAs to get more women killed, because they hate them. Isn't it obvious that all women are fragile as glass and need to be pro...

This guy's macho sexist shit gets on my wick a bit. Fuck that. The point at which someone decides to rape is the point at which their head becomes a legitimate target for a smacking. He didn't have to hurt the unborn child, he could have put her lights out without harm to the kid. He gets no browni...

P.S. Maybe saying 'don't rape' does in fact help reduce rape. I'm pretty skeptical of that, but if that's the best way, then let's go with it. Given the way things are in the little town closest to where I live, you would have to have something seriously wrong with you to resort to rape, especially...

I will just leave this one here: http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/the-rape-victims-they-refuse-to-see/ Sure, men get raped too. But anyone who thinks the following is a fucking moron: It is astonishing how much our culture seeks to deny any possibility that a woman may rape with her vagina. But...

I don't know if just saying "don't rape" is effective. However, there are many people who think having sex with an incapacitated women is not rape. The law says differently. So education about that would be effective, I think. I will just leave these here because focusing on just the men seems to b...

I will just leave this one here: http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/the-rape-victims-they-refuse-to-see/ Remember the controversy in the feminist blogosphere over strange men talking to women in an elevator? Reverse the sexes and I lived it. For me, the issue wasnâ€™t hypothetical or used to demon...

I have a more practical view: The boobs I have access to are AMAZING AND PERFECT. The others are nice as well, but not as good as the ones I have access to. By virtue of you having access to them, or intrinsically? A boob in the hand is worth two in the bush. Or something. (CATCHING UP ON THE PIT V...

Looking at the answer provided by Lewis and the post by Oneiros666 above yours reminds me of the topic of academic mobbing written about by Kenneth Westhues, and his opinions on conflicting modes of discourse, which he labels as modern and postmodern. *SNIP* Which to my mind is typical baboon behav...

If Oolon were a moderately better writer, he'd be louis. LOL. Spot on. I disagree. I am under the impression that Oolon is sincerely muddled and incapable of helping himself out of the logjams his stunted thought processes lead him into. Remember when he wanted to know how come, seeing as we used "...

If Oolon were a moderately better writer, he'd be louis. LOL. Spot on. I disagree. I am under the impression that Oolon is sincerely muddled and incapable of helping himself out of the logjams his stunted thought processes lead him into. Remember when he wanted to know how come, seeing as we used "...

I think Louis might get on well with Steerzo... My suspicion is the exact opposite. Too bad he is not here, then we could see for certain. Louis has dropped some howlers. One particularly egregious one was his response to Thunderfoot. I am still girlishly giggling over that one. Pretty hilarious re...

Well, I just got round to reading the A+ thread concerning the secret forum: http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716&start=1350 Cipher Â» Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:26 pm Wind, talking about "gossiping" about newer members, you do realize that a lot of people here are friends from elsewhere, r...

Louis, Being an ex-ATBC person I think that to me the whole FTB thing reminds me of UD and you remind me a little of Ftk not taking any responsibility for what your "side" does but happy to tell us what we are doing wrong here and at FTB. The reason FTB reminds me of UD is: 1. Commenters being bann...

Yeah. Seriously Justin, you have this tendency to burn first, then pillage. Doesn't work well. Like it or not, the things you do are subject to more scrutiny than most. You should keep that in mind when doing stuff like this. Not to dogpile (but of course I am) you really do need to learn the prope...

Fuck. That anecdote actually annoyed me. People who get treated in a way they don't find acceptable and shout SOCIETY IS EVIL PATRIARCHY a few weeks later to unrelated people instead of asking politely for what they want . For some reason I was reminded of something concerning attitudes and norms: ...

And what's up with people setting up local car dealerships with test drives for PZ Myers? Are those people that hang out here, or are those examples of more serious personal vendettas from people in his past? Of course, it just couldn't be one of his students, eh? I mean, annoyed Uni students who g...

KarlVonMox wrote:I also don't want to hijack this thread with a discussion about viruses, as much as ERV and others might love it - the appearance of Louis here is quite interesting by itself.

TrueFax - as much as 8% of human DNA comes from those fuckers. No one wants to talk about it though.

/conspiracy

But there is more nuance there than you suspect. What there isn't, at this current time (and this has been the case for a while now) is a lot of tolerance for leading people through the basics on certain subjects. It's not about disagreement, it's about having to explain the same damned thing a mil...

fascination wrote:Louis, you wouldn't be a "lone voice" as much as you might think. There is quite a bit of disagreement here on the Pit. Steersman does it all of the time :) .

You name it Steerman disagrees with it. The only guy I know of to be banned for life from AVfM. I heart that guy so much you have no idea.

[spoiler] Excuse my guys, I think I might be lost. I heard that you chaps were responsible for all the evil in the world. Could somebody please direct me to the threads where you plot your diabolical schemes? Sure, first you have to post me your tits via PM. I will judge them, and make a decision t...

And yes, your newest member, albeit until I get bored which could be quite rapidly, is the Louis from Pharyngula that Metalogic42 quoted. I seriously doubt anyone has a real problem with that. Maybe I'm wrong about that too. So what's it to be? Louis BTW.... I do not have an issue and speaking for ...

Hi Metalogic42 and Phil, So if I do come over here and post ( which I am exceptionally sure will not get me banned from anywhere on FTB ) how long before I'm just the punching bag held responsible for All The Evils (Real and Perceived) Of FTB et al? Louis *chuckle* Well PeeZuss has a reputation for...

"R Johnson" helpfully teaches us how we pitters arrived at atheism. [spoiler] http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd241/gumbythecat/Slymepit/atheism_zps88fd5ae0.jpg [/spoiler] The final part, "Never think for a second that theyâ€™re actually people whoâ€™ve thoughtfully come to atheism. Their atheis...

â€œBTW, not that it'll make an ounce of difference to Cobweb Cunt, but there is not nor ever has been a Jerry Conlon or similar user name registered here.â€ Suggest you check out user JTC. Hereâ€™s a hint, dumbass. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=73&start=40275#p42405 My, but someone's throwing a tammy strop...

I'm a bit late to the game here, but regarding circumcision: I'm circumcised, and I've never felt upset about it at all, nor can I think of any ill effects I've suffered because of it. If anyone here is circumcised, and wishes they weren't, can you explain why? I was circumcised but I can not recal...

Hehe. [spoiler]14 yo Pizzy Myers made a comment (some of you have probably read it): http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/01/17/not-cool-not-cool-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-538555 Itâ€™s not proof . Itâ€™s circumstantial evidence , nothing more. If I had more solid proof, Iâ€™d give it a...

I actually have read the studies, because I found them interesting. It does not say that circumcision, (can we stop with the MGM? It's not fucking mutilation. The shit still works. I have a child and a functional penis to attest to that. Fucking drama) Nope. Not budging on that. MSM is MSM and call...

[spoiler] I think we have a resident AIDS/HIV researcher in the house. If male circumcision actually helps and people willingly submit to it then I can't see a problem. Hmmm... let me reword that a bit : There is compelling evidence that female circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquir...

I think we have a resident AIDS/HIV researcher in the house. If male circumcision actually helps and people willingly submit to it then I can't see a problem. Hmmm... let me reword that a bit : There is compelling evidence that female circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV inf...

Have you got a link or something to back that up johntheother? I dunno what the compelling evidence is but as I was told it is better that the men believe it will work than than the belief that sex with a virgin will cure HIV. (I was recently told this by someone who used to be a big cheese with th...

Skep tickle wrote:Index page says: "Our newest member johntheother"

Oh fuck! That is a "name" in MRA circles. Now you are in for it from the baboons and PeeZuss Christ!

Rumor has it that PeeZuss hates JohnTheOther like you would not believe.

I looked up obligation on answers.com to formalise a definition. It has 6 definitions, of which 5 imply some sort of duty or compulsion. Exactly what I was uncomfortable with. There is a get out though - the sixth definition does not refer to duty or compulsion, but a "feeling of indebtedness". To ...

I do wonder about Josh though. He seems to have a really bizarre chip on his shoulder that comes out when an attractive woman behaves in a feminine way. It's almost as if he is a repressed heterosexual in denial about his own lack of victim status. Almost. I see it as vagina envy. He has a hard on ...

Hee. I love doing that, because on the one hand, it's so blatantly racist, but it's a white guy complaining about honkies. and yes, I blatantly, completely stole the idea from Dave Chappelle and Danny Glover, because that shit was brilliant. The reactions I occasionally get make it all worthwhile. ...

@Renee,

Sorry to hear that. Based on my experience (back of the throat) it is going to hurt. Stock up on jello is my suggestion.

Altair, they seem to not like the way Sara Mayhew dresses. Josh, Official SpokesGay: Personal drama? Drama blogging? From a preening narcissist like you, thatâ€™s rich. Reminds me of: http://images.wikia.com/phawrongula/images/8/87/Surly_amy_to_sara_mayhew.jpg Every time I see her avatar I am remin...

You walk your dog every day because it makes them happy, and content... [/b](and their happiness is well worth the small effort, even if it is raining. You may find that you enjoyed it more than you thought. They also do things that make you happy and content, which is why it is a perfect fucking a...

From a couple of my fave chill girls:

â€œFuck me in the ass cause I love Jesusâ€
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BTW? NSFW ... ok?

BTW, everyone else should follow "tradition" too. I doubt there'd be a mass outbreak of people who want to defy them - they can just go somewhere where their family/whoever is judging them for not "being a man" isn't doing so. Depends on your timeframe and what specific issues interest you. It took...

Have you introduced Islamic MRAs to any feminist spheres? :popcorn: Erm no. My only Islamic contact that could be considered anywhere near being a MRA does social work within the Islamic community in the UK and feminism is only a peripheral issue fior him at at best. I have passed him material rela...

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