If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

... ideas aren't a marketplace. They're thoughts. You're not quite with me on this, Jesper. The point being that an idea is not by itself a marketplace, but rather than we can use the concept of a marketplace to model the interactions between ideas. Ideas don't battle violently against each other, ...

.... my purpose with signing up here is to take ftb down. There's your problem, Jesper, right there. The internet is always going to be full of crappy places and you're paying one particular crappy place too much mind. Why not just keep your own standards and let the idiots, who will always be with...

FTBCon 3 starts in less than a week. Schedule's now up: Thanks for the heads-up, Skep. I can't wait because I'm one of these suckers who finds that crazy women have a real sexy edge about them, something about the intensity and the fact that the emotions come to the surface. For example I love Char...

http://i.imgur.com/HQcOqNQ.jpg I know I've said this before, but it's just such a glaring fact about this 'multiple system' idiot that he thinks that he's really all these totally separate characters in his head and only one is 'fronting' until he sits down and types away at the keyboard, and then ...

WHAT IF I WANT TO READ ABOUT HORSE MASTURBATION??? WHO WILL SATISFY ME Come visit the ranch, and we'll have a grand old time: excalibur.jpg I read in an article somewhere that stallion smegma is just about the most unpleasant substance there is on the planet. I'm ashamed to say that it has proven t...

Did anyone see Avicenna's friend white-knighting for him at Reddit yesterday? He came out swinging and didn't let up. <snip> ... He's a doctor who has worked a ton in some really shitty places. He treats blogging like I treat blogging - it's not serious, it's not a big deal and if I were doing the ...

What do you call it when PZ Myers is waiting for a thought to pop into his head as to what to do about his latest fuck-up ?

An Executive Committee.

Today in "Even feminists hate male feminists": https://twitter.com/cheuya/status/550019060302643200 The use of the 'Them' is interesting. Is she really claiming that she had the exact same word for word conversation with more than one person ? If not, then I guess that 'them' is supposed to be a pr...

A heartwarming true story for Christmas:

My nephew (10 yrs.) in Church, whispering to his mother:

"I think this is a bit boring"

Mother replies " Don't let me hear you using that word again !"

Boy (after a few seconds of thoughtful expression), raises his finger and whispers

" .... tedious ? "

In defence of Ophelia, she claims her "privilege" quip was just a reflexive reaction and that she's human too. I'm going to remember that the next time I have the impulse to lunge at a nice pair of breasts. I wonder if there's something we're missing about Ophie's "coffee-sippers" business. Perhaps...

We know of course that evil white middle class men deserve to die simply for existing, so you can cheer on the people who take them hostage, but what if one of the hostage was a coffee-sipping woman? Or even (gasp!) a coffee-sipping PoC or WoC? Have you thought about that, Ophelia? I can reply on b...

<Sorry for snippage but just wanted to focus on this bit > Secondly, it depends on dualist thinking. If I am Good, anyone who disagrees with me on anything must be Evil. There's no room for honest disagreement, agreement on aims but not on means, agreement on some things but not on others, differen...

JackSkeptic wrote: I'm in the UK and do not get blocks. And everyone else does get it wrong. The Queen said so therefore it' true.

Please note that the correct technical term for the people who get it wrong is not 'everyone else'. It is 'abroad'.

It still remains the fact that he certainly wasn't punished unduly harshly for what he did. The licence business for life is part of the legitimate consequences. If he were truly a responsible citizen he'd realise this and wouldn't be trying to weasel out of his legitimate punishment now. So to you...

"The world would be better off now if L. Ron Hubbard had tried to complete a non-stop single handed circumnavigation by yacht and Donald Crowhurst had started a cult" Discuss.

Not sure why you all keep saying "I'm with the SJL on this one." Last time I checked, the SJL was willing to provide a haven full of *hugs* to a child-raper as long as he started babbling in acceptable catch-phrases after asking for forgiveness. Punching a few Asians is nothing compared to multiple...

I'm with the Social Justice League on this one. Not necessarily buying the wider racial part of it, but sheesh he blinded somebody in one eye in an unprovoked attack and just served 45 days ! Oh let's get our facts straight too While Wahlberg's unprovoked assault left him shaken it did not cause an...

Marky Mark wants a pardon, and the SJL go batshit. A good starting point: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-30425288 I'm with the Social Justice League on this one. Not necessarily buying the wider racial part of it, but sheesh he blinded somebody in one eye in an unprovoked attack and jus...

Oh, I wouldn't dream of forbidding you guys from publicly masturbating. I just wanted to see if you were under the illusion that you were doing anything but. Che - Perhaps you're missing the fact that it's not that we're particularly interested in PZ as an individual. It's more of a case-study in w...

Why can't I find the pit on the tapatalk on my new phone ?

Is it because I'm an idiot ?

If one headkin enthusiastically consents to pulling a train at a frat party, can one of the other (non-consenting) headkins legally report a gang rape? And whether by the frat guys, or by the first headkin? I think we'd find that consenting to sex is one of the two things that all members of the 'm...

Most SJWs actually the shit that they spew, which forces them to shut down most critical faculties to avoid the dissonance. PZ (and a few others like him) don't believe it, but are trying to believe it and this also forces them to stop thinking because thought is incompatible with the desired belie...

I'm somewhat behind with the 'pit and thought I'd give my opinion on the inexplicable appeal of Rebecca Watson. It's not charm, but she does possess the one thing that all people who want a celebrity cult around them have to have. Consistency. Which then becomes a 'brand'. Watson may only be sporadi...

Not really the point. The point is that PZ, as usual, is a hypocrite. He just let all that stuff slide unremarked. That's poor ally form. There's also the possibility that Myers is full of shit and none of that happened. I'm getting suspicious of his anecdotes that seem to always pop up at the exac...

PZ tracks down the horde at SkeptiCON. "Yep, there's a couple right there" https://twitter.com/pzmyers/status/536327238158151680 Now, little Paul, can you remember what you were told in your Ally training ? There's a furry standing around looking like he/she/it/xi/xis/fee/fi/fo/fum would like to jo...

https://twitter.com/adainitiative/status/535900552987541504 Stating the obvious, the point isn't about bathrooms or the actual content of this particular notice. It's about the fact that they get to put up a notice. It's marking turf. It's about the 'we' who can instruct 'you' - the reader of the n...

It's somehow fitting that amongst all the people who write about how the slymepit is a single entity with a single opinion, a notable example is that 'Plethora' person.

Dude is deeply confused about what constitutes a human mind.

I occasionally get a little impatient with American women who complain of being inappropriately touched by the water cooler or invited for coffee or something which I think is, by comparison, relatively trivial,â€ he (Dawkins) said. This may have been quoted out of context but it's an annoyingly b...

Brive1987 wrote:The SkeptiCON Ada thing still has two attendees and one freeloader according to their own site.

That's on in what? 1 day?

The most important of all the "ally skills" is learning how to attract them in the first place.

Maybe there's some kind of workshop which Stephanie could go on ?

Surely you're thinking of GLASSER, Russel, the bald slim god of atheism. (The bald fat god of atheism is, of course, Matt Dilahaunty, the only and one). Spoeaking of which, how is their shtick going? We get constant influx of shitposting from the A-list FTB shnoozles (PZ Myers the tentacle rape hen...

https://twitter.com/Geordie_Tait/status/533655401045041152 Because a tacky T-shirt is just as bad as slavery. To what extent is this shirt business driven by the SJL's suspicion and dislike of scientific endeavour as a thing ? It's a bit like the attitude of fundamentalist Christians towards childr...

Dworkin shirt. ::shudders:: Here's the link to the NPR story about RW and her death threats: http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/11/14/363837837/victims-of-online-threats-say-perpetrators-arent-being-caught Someone sent Watson a link to a man's website. "He was making music and the albu...

Lsuoma wrote:Sigh. The BBC has picked up on Shirtgate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-30055278

Clicked on this and was sorely disappointed. Not one mention of Mykeru's flounce but some drivel about a scientist on television or something.

I've got PTSD now !

Zvan is helming the Ada Initiative Ally Skills Training workshop at Skepticon. http://lanyrd.com/2014/skepticon/sdgkkx/ It's a week away and she has 3 confirmed attendees. One of them is herself. Another is a Skepticon speaker. All of them are women. The Ally Skills Workshop teaches MEN simple, eve...

Wondering if in the light of the pasting he's received from Nugent, and the 'support' from the likes of Latsot, that Peeze is setting the stage for a face-saving withdrawal on health grounds from the SJL fray. I'm sure he'll carry on in some capacity, but he must realise that he's got to cut himself...

It's not that there aren't plenty of examples of cynical demagoguery. I'm just of the opinion that it's facile to assume, like my academic buddy, that every example of stupidity or fanaticism boils down to a cynical, self-aware scheme for money or power. If held too tightly, it becomes a comforting...

I have no problem taking Peezy's life story at face value. A lifelong boring science nerd, he found himself in his late forties as a teaching professor at a cowpoke college. He may have gotten there grudgingly, after failing to be a prominent researcher, or he may have been content with his humble ...

About this Sealion business - There is some substance to the idea, in that over-politeness can indeed be used as a form of dramatic tactic. It's possible to adopt a reasonable tone simply to enrage an emotional adversary further, and to illustrate a contrast between them and yourself being the reaso...

http://i.imgur.com/bAahgvR.jpg Funnily enough, my own mental picture of the Oggster is along the same lines as Captain Morgan of the good ship SS Predicable Stupidity. Oggie is standing exposed to the storm of opprobrium of decent society, trapped not only by his own desire to be the centre of an e...

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Peez is also appearing in a community theater production of the Beckett classic, Waiting For Lamarck.

:clap: :clap:

Waspish ...

Happy Halloween all. So how many of us are actually out doing something, and how many are at home listening to the fireworks outside and contemplating all the ways we don't belong in this world? Fireworks? On Halloween? :snooty: Maybe Bovarchist is one of my fellow limeys. Over here, what's happene...

I actually feel sorry for Kent Hovind and I hope he manages to sort himself out. His story is a sort of Shakespearean tragedy. The world has rewarded him handsomely for peddling unreality and make-believe as being on a par with that which is real. He's made money and he's got to be treated as the eq...

I just found my new person friend! http://i.imgur.com/5Jnaruw.png If I may pick one apple from this barrel of crazy, what's telling for me is the " Website is adverse (sic) to alternative identities" bit. Not the Averse/Adverse confusion, but because the website clearly gives choices to describe yo...

[quote="Tony Parsehole"]Nec. Have you heard the good news? http://www.jw.org/en/[/quotewe I'm really disappointed with the quality of the JW's these days. One came to my door a few weekends ago (just one on his own), and the conversation was something like this: JW: "Good Morning, I'm distributing l...

Skep tickle wrote:
Mark your calendars.......?

Calendar marked !

I don't know about you lot, but I can't wait to hear how the strategy of Atheism Plus "going underground" is working out for them. And can quiet Marc get any quieter ?

Apologies if this has been posted before, but it caught my eye. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45H25Sc6fig&list=UU4unV5BVmWubfAF0Al_AVdw[/youtube] For her awareness of the most pressing issue to affect the Syrian people* (Fuck You, Richard Dawkins !), her excellent use of hand gestures, esp...

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/523620542658527233 Nope, Anita. What's deeply sexist is the lack of career opportunities for men in Professional Victimhood. I am sooo stealing this for my #ProVictims hash-tag. Sorry. Help yourself, Rhino - What's on the 'pit belongs to the 'pit - except for Clar...

Darth Cynic wrote:

Nope, Anita. What's deeply sexist is the lack of career opportunities for men in Professional Victimhood.

To me SJW is the perfect tag for them, since how a person reacts to it discriminates immediately who and what they are. Yes. It's an excellent handle because it summarises exactly what we don't like about them. It's not the content of their ideas, since these are things we can and do have conversat...

[quote="JackSkeptic]. Boring people like me never get trolled so consider it a privilege.[/quote]

Whaddaya mean ? I've taunted you with the most elegant mixed metaphor of all time. "Jimi's thumb is Jack's Achilles' Heel !"

With the masterful and effortless poaching of someone else's group of harrassers by a more accomplished and higher status victim, one person who's definitely innocent of making the Sarkeesian threat is poor old Zoe Quinn (remember her?).

As far as I know. Yes. Straight from the horse's mouth. Sam Harris, "In Defense of Torture" OK - I admit I had forgotten about this post of his, having re-read the End of Faith since, the earlier book was uppermost in my mind. It's true that this post goes further in the 'pro-torture' direction tha...

....Harris is, as far as I know, pro-torture and has, to my knowledge, cited the oft spoken "time bomb scenario" to defend his position. Torture is wrong, both from an ethical and moral standpoint and on the basis that it (objectively speaking) doesn't work.... It's the old 'use "as-far-as-I-know" ...

Dear Ms Zvan, may I humbly submit
a request on behalf of the 'pit ;
While you're doing us down
please use our CORRECT pronoun
which is 's' stroke 'h' stroke 'it'.

The Scots' attitude to independence is exactly the same as North Korea's attitude to nuclear war against the U. S. It's the last thing they actually want but they use the threat of it as a bargaining chip to get stuff they want from the rest of the UK, knowing that the emotional attachment people ha...

https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/511778693161971712 Dawkins has taken PZ's advice. He's consciousness raising. Raising the consciousness of other mainstreamers within A/S that there's a problem with the SJL and letting it be known how he stands on it. He's not taking a lead on this and ris...

"For Myers, then, the first step is to take on sexism and abuse, to call it out, to name it (and to name names). But for the movement to grow, the overarching need is for freethought to choose humanist values, including peace, womenâ€™s rights, and regard for the environment, even if that means mar...

N.B. Clarence can do it naked if he wants to.

Ive just had a great idea for a project. Just have to collect a few more quotes ..... http://i.imgur.com/mnIkLiq.jpg I think we should make it into an art installation, Brive. What we can do is get hold of a kiddies ball pond (there's one going cheap from DashCon apparently although we will have to...

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
.... and tonight we'll probably have Haggis and tatties..

Enough of the weasel words with wriggle room, Giordana. Are you having Haggis or not. It's a Yes/No issue.

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