If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

OK, seeing as the 'Empowering Women in Skepticism' conference is happening in a few days, I think it's best to check whether any of the attendees is a misogynist. We don't want PZ, Rebecca or Ophelia accidently conversing with one of those . Oh dear, it appears that Kate Smurthwaite - she of the in...

Pogsurf continues to try to tuck burrs under PZ's saddle: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/i ... rs-in-2011

Haha, the news feeds all say the Texas bill passed, but in caucus the Lt Governor allowed (just a few minutes ago) as how it didn't actually pass. Dewey defeats Truman, and all. Twitterverse is way ahead of the news organizations on this.

Duh, now I also see it after the rope bondage part.

Mind blown by watching Texas Senate proceedings, and late hour, I guess.

Ah, found it: http://skepchick.org/2013/06/adequate-v ... apologies/

As I predicted, Watson is eating crow too: As I posted on Twitter just after reading it, itâ€™s a good start, and Iâ€™m happy to rescind my previous calls for a boycott of the organization. "He treated us with contempt." [Greta Christina] Contempt is exactly what they deserve. Where did you see Wat...

Here's side by side screenshots of the Texas Senate voting record from tonight, before on the right and after on the left, as tweeted out by Al Stefanelli a few minutes ago (see the link for credit for the image; others also grabbed images of the "before"). Note the top 4 lines, & how the date chang...

Watched the last hour or so of the Texas Senate considering Senate Bill #5 tonight; the bill would (will?) limit access to abortion quite significantly: http://www.wfaa.com/news/texas-news/Reality-Check---212840781.html Proceedings were being streamed live on Youtube, and lots of people were tweetin...

Reasons to post under guest: ... It makes it easier to avoid the flamewars and middle school drama that pervades this place, the Mykeru / Welch temper tantrums, crap like that that suck the soul out of the pit and show the pit ain't a whole lot better than the fftb assholes, probably just the same ...

Can someone explain to me what the point of a filibuster is? Delaying tactic, allowed procedurally in some legislative bodies. Bottom line: when someone whose politics you like is doing it, they're being brave and selfless and it's a very admirable tactic. When someone whose politics you don't like...

It's getting complicated, trying to keep track of who's allying with who, when, over what, so I went back & put some of the recent timeline together. I've omitted Thibeault, Eberhard, Laden, probably others, and all the stuff before June 14th. Feel free to copy this & add stuff if it seems potential...

Justin tweeted a link to this Q he posted on facebook: "Can someone please explain to me why Rebecca Watson is included on a "Separation of Church and State" panel at the Empowering Women Through Secularism conference? Thank you." https://www.facebook.com/justinvacula/posts/10151505328364327 Some du...

Thanks for pointing to your work, bovarchist! Interesting shots, & esp the panoramic landscapes quite lovely.

Oh FFS Walter! Why are you here? Is there a reason I shouldn't be here? To answer your question, the Pit is the only internet "home" I have right now and, unlike my real life home, I'm unlikely to be evicted. Just think of me as the Pit's problem child. Nah, Eucliwood was the Pit's problem child. T...

....And, speak of the devil...Greta finally gave in, and forgave Ron Lindsay! here However, there are conditions: I do expect concrete action in the near future, as well as the middle and long-term future, to make it clear that both Lindsay and the CFI board take these issues seriously. Some forms ...

I've gotten behind in putting examples in this thread; just so much else to do. This is from EllenBeth Wachs' blog just recently; I don't have info on what exactly isn't being let through, or is being removed, but the 3 people whose comments appear below seem to all have had experience with censorsh...

Hunt wrote:Somehow I doubt this one's going to make any Pharyngula "Around FtB" list:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013 ... /#comments

Ally Fogg's blog is really a beacon of light over there, isn't it.

http://mycatsaremygods.com/2013/06/23/w ... omment-446

http://i.imgur.com/aTMYFoR.png?1

:popcorn:

https://twitter.com/iamcuriousblue/status/349037335461117952 Links to: http://skepchick.org/2013/06/ron-lindsay-apologizes/#comment-170843 Which reads (middle paragraph is a quote, purportedly from Hensley): courtneycaldwell / June 23, 2013, 2:34 pm I admit that I was very skeptical upon first read...

Hmmmmmm......Those scribbled-out Facebook comments could have been made by anybody. Not really evidence that there was a plot to replace Lindsay with Watson, Hensley or Kermit The Frog. Agreed. Some of them clearly did want Lindsay ousted. But as having either Melody or Watson replace him, that boi...

CFI can't really drop WiSC3 without opening themselves to further attack, however they can borrow a page from the FtB playbook and issue a statement something like "We're interested in providing an opportunity for those who otherwise might not be heard..." and them dumb every pain in the ass from t...

Not that it's actually important, but I'm going to take a guess that not all that many people here have been face to face with someone who is vomiting up feces* *well, feculent material rather than formed stool, but at that point there's not a ton of difference Luckily for everyone it doesn't happen...

EllenBeth Wachs' evidence re Hensley or Watson being seen as replacements (though names are redacted in her screencaps here): http://mycatsaremygods.com/2013/06/23/walking-away-from-those-that-are-becoming-that-feminazi-stereotype/ I do not see that as some formal evidence from someone in a positio...

LOL, here's the last line of EBW's post above:

Anyway, I just joined JREF and am headed to TAM2013.

EllenBeth Wachs' evidence re Hensley or Watson being seen as replacements (though names are redacted in her screencaps here):

http://mycatsaremygods.com/2013/06/23/w ... tereotype/

Re recent posts by Watson, Skepticon, Eberhard, & Benson sure seem to illustrate the bind they're in, if they stick their necks out too far in one direction or another before being sure all the details are in & the other key players in the group are on board.

Jan Steen wrote:It looks as if Watson is going to have to eat crow or become even more isolated.

I suspect that she is reading up on crow recipes as we speak.

http://skepchick.org/2013/06/ron-lindsay-apologizes/

Uh, anyone seen sacha lately?

:shock:

Does wearing a NARAL button help show what a good feminist you are? Obviously that's the widespread assumption, but aren't reproductive rights "pro-bodily-autonomy" rather than "pro-gender-equality"? (because of the inherent differences in male & female reproductive systems, risks, & opportunities)....

...There is inequality in reproduction between the genders, and that's not going to change. But I think you can make it as fair as possible legally. Just to add on to what Welch said. This subject (parentage) is NEVER EVER going to be fair. It's IMPOSSIBLE for it to be fair because there are such s...

re: Radio Show Is privilege really the same as patriarchy? You can have privilege in certain fields and then be at a disadvantage in others. I don't doubt the disadvantages women have and continue to face, but patriarchy implies some kind of system across the board. I know some feminists respond wi...

Steersman, your "shameless link" above led me to catch up at Katie's post at Canadian Atheist, where EBW has posted this tidbit: http://canadianatheist.com/2013/06/20/leaving-the-skepchick-network/#comment-27432 EllenBeth Wachs on June 21, 2013 at 10:07 pm said: You donâ€™t have to just believe me a...

Richard Carrier has announced his main contribution to FtBCon: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/3902 (bolding as in original) Iâ€™ve decided to speak about something deeply personal this time: What the Military Taught Me about Feminism . Iâ€™ll be telling some embarrassing and personal ...

Richard Carrier has announced his main contribution to FtBCon: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/3902 (bolding as in original) Iâ€™ve decided to speak about something deeply personal this time: What the Military Taught Me about Feminism . Iâ€™ll be telling some embarrassing and personal ...

<blah blah blah from FtB re FtBcon> I'm for ignoring the entire fucking thing. You know what it will be, so why waste the effort. They'll put up transcripts for the more masochistic, but fuck, unless they devote a session to how big an asshole I am, all it's going to be is the spoken word version o...

Richard Carrier has announced his main contribution to FtBCon: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/3902 (bolding as in original) Iâ€™ve decided to speak about something deeply personal this time: What the Military Taught Me about Feminism . Iâ€™ll be telling some embarrassing and personal s...

Atheism+ forum, purportedly a "safe space". The depressed dude who wrote the first post joined 5 months ago & has 59 posts; "banned" now appears under his name. (The 2nd post was from ~1 hr ago so maybe the ban will be reversed and his thread reopened.) http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=...

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/06/21/announcingftbconscience/comment-page-1/#comment-641263 Bwaaaahaha...erf (cough)...um http://i.imgur.com/43Ly6rC.png?1 *cough* What, their advertisers? PZ has said earlier that Wiseman may join in, and that Pitters won't be allowed. Disappointing tha...

@Elevatorgate pointed to a defection from the Skepchick network: Katie on "Leaving the Skepchick Network", posted w/in past day: http://canadianatheist.com/2013/06/20/leaving-the-skepchick-network/ Most of her post: 1. Rebecca Watson (and a lot of her following, really) is a cyber bully. Plain and s...

Hmm, I didn't express that as I meant to. Contraception is not 100% effective. Anyone engaging in heterosexual intercourse who would not want to risk pregnancy should ideally take the most effective measure(s) he/she can to prevent pregnancy. For men, the 2 options are vasectomy ("drastic" in that i...

Apparently it's "my body my choice" only when you have already mistakenly got pregnant, it's "his cock his fault" before that. Because obviously women have no control whatsoever over their own bodies during sex, being entirely at the mercy of men. Imagine if I were to tell women "hey, don't wanna g...

So yeah, it sucks to be a guy who didn't want any kids but his partner... decided to keep the baby. Yeah it sucks. But it would suck more for the kid if it grows up with no financial support. So, as a guy, you should suck up and pay up. But there should be some semblance of fairness; a man shouldn'...

My parents divorced 40 years ago. My dad got the short end of the custody stick despite his efforts otherwise, paid child support until I was 18, and is still paying alimony (even though he's been in the weaker financial situation for ~20 yrs).

James Gandolfini dead at 51 fuck that's young. The Tony Soprano character was hot, and the actor is hot in this photo: 20gandolfini_337-articleLarge-v2.jpg I love a beard I can't believe it. This is like Steve Irwin all over again. what? Like Steve Irwin in that fairly-young-male-celebrity-dies-une...

One of the minor consequences of increasing obesity in the US is that there are fewer cadavers available for medical education and research. Can't use bodies that won't fit in the tanks. Some are already so heavy that it's difficult to push down the levers to raise the platform they're on within th...

Oh nearly forgot. It took me 2 minutes to confirm that phone number for Pogsurf. He has not made much effort to hide his identity I have to say. Much less than our boy Anthony K apparently. So, I doubt our boy Pogsurf is going to be too intimidated by being doxxed. ... Follow up from Pogsurf, from ...

Oops, FWIW that middle link should have been this one:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2012 ... skepticon/

(the link that's in my post above goes to blogpost from JT from 2011)

Anybody know how much CFI gave to support Skepticon in past years? I'm not turning up that info, am mostly finding past pages that ask for donations (esp in 11/2012 when funding was below expenses, for example this one in which someone asks in the comments what the target is, but no answer is posted...

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2013/06/18/what-im-doing-about-that/ Stephanie Zvan withdrawing support from CFI, but it's not "because the board disagreed with" her, it's because she understands professionalism, even if they don't. She's withdrawing support except for a monthly donation...

In the last 2 paragraphs of "So much for Center for Inquiry" at Skepchick, after calling for a boycott, Rebecca Watson ends with: Do not support an organization that does not have the courage to stand up for women. The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. If you are a speaker at a paid...

@JustAtheist Cheers and thanks, good to read that someone actually reads the wall of garbled texts I produce on occasion. :D You often post interesting & useful analysis, Aneris. And you sometimes make me go look up words in a dictionary*, which isn't necessarily a bad* thing... :? *oh damn, I just...

Aneris wrote:
Well, read other places than your comment section then.

:rimshot:

https://twitter.com/AmandaMarcotte/status/346760278924472321 I find the tacit assertion by Marcotte that she herself has "intellectual chops" to be laughable. Also, Rebecca Watson wouldn't know clever if it swam up her urethra like a Candiru. Oh now they're so deep into how much they don't care at ...

AndrewV69 wrote:The bottom line is that this place is not for the thin skinned. If you have delicate fee fees at some point they are going to get hurt.

Oh, sure, now you tell me. :x

:lol:

Wow these people really have an over inflated view of their importance. I wonder if it "pains" CFI that Greta is withdrawing her support. And oh noes she cancelling her subscription to Skeptical Inquirer Magazine. I'm sure they are pissing their pants I've just purchased a multi-year subscription t...

PZ links to Christina; his whole blogpost reads

Greta Christina has completely cut all ties to CFI, including scheduled speaking engagements. Harsh, but warranted and necessary.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... hoa-harsh/

Trying to catch up. May I just say: :popcorn: Also, haven't seen this posted yet: Greta Christina withdraws from 10/2013 CFI Summit (CSICon): Dear CFI Board of Directors: It pains me to do this, but I am withdrawing my support from the CFI national organization, and am cutting ties with all events, ...

Man, I hope none of the FTB crowd were Judi Dench fans. Knowing that she does embroidery with the word "Cunt" on it, they simply must cast her out of their Approved Viewing List. shame too, she's done a lot of good work. http://groupthink.jezebel.com/tonight-in-things-i-did-not-know-before-51365075...

So, TheMan, is there a verdict yet on whether or not the cinnamon has a positive effect?

Inquiring minds want to know. :geek: :D

Besides these similarities with Christianity: (a) being soiled by sins committed by one or more other people (b) being offered redemption (c) being told that no evidence is needed, should take it on faith and/or testimony there's one more: (d) the Righteous People being reviled by others, as a sign ...

Search found 5357 matches