If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Let's start with the easiest thing: You do know that what the SJWs are spouting is not what real Social Scientists do. Right? I know that answer! They frequently make things up or design really bad survey's to get confirm their conclusions. OTOH, I've known a couple of sociologists. Real ones. Peop...

Very good. The next thing is: Are you more interested in talking about the SJW carryings on, or in how social scientists actually handle the concept of privilege? The latter, obviously. OK. The place I'd like to start is with three very basic things. These are general to science, and my point is re...

Let's start with the easiest thing: You do know that what the SJWs are spouting is not what real Social Scientists do. Right? Yes. Very good. The next thing is: Are you more interested in talking about the SJW carryings on, or in how social scientists actually handle the concept of privilege? (I me...

Uh oh, did I ring the bell of Pavlov's Dogs? Psychology major detected! Sociology, Ph.D. My day job was in Space Plasma Physics. What's your background? Surveys are not science. This is gonna take a while. Let's start with the easiest thing: You do know that what the SJWs are spouting is not what r...

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VAXherd wrote:Social Sciences are part of STEM.
Sociology is a soft baby science, much like psychology. Too soft as of right now to be of any real application.

Minimal offense intended, but: How would you know?

Social Sciences are part of STEM. Um, no. The 'S' stands for the hard sciences. There are posters up in our Psychology Department to get more women into STEM. They mean us. Also, if I may invoke my "lived experience," Sociologists are generally much better scientists than Physicists. The stuff my b...

Is anyone kind of stumped by the whole idea of privilege? I get it as a sociological concept, but it has almost zero application. How is it measured or observed? http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=351&p=119568#p119568 The short answer is that it's a property of a relationship, not an in...

Something's not right here. I'm very intrigued what the outcome of all this will be. It appears that some of the people involved have completely failed to understand the seriousness of what they have done. [â€¦] No matter what I do on the intertubes, I am aware that I am dealing with human beings, ...

I truly cannot fathom an honest to asimov science fiction author making the claim scraping this shit and storifying it is harassment. What a fucking dumbass asshole. It's a dirty secret that inside a modern-day educated liberal-minded citizen who happens to be male is a hunter gatherer man who know...

It's kind of fun to see feminists look at James Bond being held captive being taken presumably to his death, then escape capture and convert the enemy agent to a friend and classify that as rape. Indeed. The theme ("trope") of mortal enemy turned life saving friend is quite venerable. Usually it's ...

Victim Blaming is the view that women want to be captured by suitors and that resistance makes them sexier and it was therefore okay to use force. Some examples of this can be seen (at least) in older films. For example in James Bond. There is this female assassin/spy/whatever. She hides in his hot...

On the concept of Privilege, allow me to offer a Sociological perspective: If you insist on judging individual people based on their group membership(s), you are a bigot . More formally, this is the Ecological Fallacy . That was easy! I'll go back to lurking now and . . . wait, what? No. It doesn't ...

Well, that was easy. Here I was thinking it would need to be something specific like PZ's book tanking, him getting taken to the cleaners by Shermer's legal team, nearly losing his job over this bullshit, and having to e-beg his way to the next round of crazy-assed feminist pseudoskeptic conference...

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Holy crap! He landed on that with both feet!

Sad to say I reckon this is going to be good for PZ's book sales. He can't get a skeptic atheist crowd to read because they... uh, think he's a dickwit. But there's a market in needy self-hating women and men who like punching themselves in the dick. That seems to be the consensus here. Or, at leas...

Yeah her books are essentially bodice rippers with a veneer of sociopathic, social darwinist, psuedophilosophy, that sometimes suckers in impressionable college students. It is kind of embarrassing that Shermer has a hard on for it, but that doesn't make him a rapist. â€œThere are two novels that c...

Your suggestion is not that bad. I mean, what those conventions accomplish, other than overpaying the same bunch of speakers to do nothing and massaging some egos? There are so many <INSERT_WORD_HERE>+Cons happening that I cannot believe in all of them being relevant to anything. Get togethers with...

OK, I've spent a bit of time researching the IPs coming in, banning some spambots that kept on trying to automatically register, and also setting stuff up so that legitimate bots and spiders are identified correctly. It feels a lot snappier than it did earlier. What do other people think? It's work...

That being said, if you're being targeted by one or two, it would seem very possible to identify the culprit(s) and report them to the local police. Especially the UCB source. I imagine every student/faculty has unique logins. IANAL, and have no experience here, but it seems possible. It's traditio...

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When I was in collage, the popular radio station was KOME, pronounced "come". "Don't touch that dial! You've got KOME on your radio." Eventually they were made to stop.

We may have moved on from this, but: Along with the drinking culture at A/S conferences, it's worth emphasizing that the celebrity worship they're built around causes the same sort of problems just by itself. Being "star struck" is much like an intoxication. People getting heartbroken or dead as a r...

It's because they have believed their own hype for so long. They are blinded by their own self-righteousness. It's like the pro-lifers who bomb Planned Parenthood clinics. My impression is that's at least part of it. They may really believe the revolution has arrived. Now that charges are being mad...

Another sidenote: I would say for anyone reading this that talking to the police about minor annoyances is a really good idea if you're just not sure how to handle something. (YMMV, of course...) I had a bloke texting me stupid shit like "I want you to suck my cock", etc in the small hours of the n...

If the allegation (not the result of the independent inquiry by a legal firm) is sexual assault then the only people who should be investigating it are the police. That is the case for the Catholic Church just as much as it is the case for the CFI. I don't think the fact that something might be a c...

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Still no kitty.

The reasons for my bad mood are trivial compared to this. Please let me endorse deLurch's advice, and add my wishes for a safe return.

And I don't get "let's hear his side of the story" people. If someone comes up to you and says my dad had me locked in his the basement for years and was raping me . . . "Trophy had me locked in his the basement for years and was raping me. No need to get his side of the story." Glad we got that cl...

There is certaily also â€œsocial sexismâ€, sexist bragging and the like and it would be nice when guys don't laugh with the group, but show disapproval. When you ladies get together for conviviality, and you're trying top each other with tales of your desirability. Could you not do that part where...

Lacking action by either party, I'm going to stay away from it because, right now, it's going to be a crap-ton of he-said, she-said and as far as I know it could be genuine or it could be load of horseshit. I've got not one shred of evidence to either condition and I refuse to get sucked into the m...

No name tag, no tattoo, no microship. She's a closed up housecat. We had planned to neuter and tattoo her just this week. Fucking irony! The best I can hope for is that, as you say, someone took her in and will read our placards, or maybe even put one of their own. My cat has scared the daylights o...

Come on people. Write something so my god awful drivel/doggerel can be swamped and hidden. Since you asked so nicely, and I am in DIRE need of frivolity just now. Here's some cuteness from a local park, and some weirdness from the BBC. [youtube]AIa3p4ri4-M[/youtube] [youtube]F85LqBBLyMg[/youtube]

Where I really lose it with patriarchy theory is the whole idea of "false consciousness", where feminists dismiss women who make choices they disapprove of as "brainwashed by the patriarchy", and therefore not able to make authentic choices at all. It's entirely unfalsifiable, and just an excuse fo...

Since I might not get the chance later, let me offer my sympathy for Lsuoma's actions re Wonderist. It's a sad fact that discussion fora are highly subject to Gresham's law. Their natural fate is to become a handful of people bickering endlessly about nothing. It's another sad fact that any pursuit ...

She seems to have mellowed a bit with motherhood, though. http://www.lvmama.com/info/uploadfile/2011/1220/20111220044923387.jpg I have it on good authority that the artist of the latter-most masterpiece was sent to the firing squad for omitting the unicorn's horn. In the DPRK? I wouldn't bet agains...

There is one other thing which is terribly important, but hard to convey. I'm not even sure most scientists grasp it: Nature is about distributions , not averages or even ranges. For even a strong man/woman difference you will have many women who are more "manly" that most men, and men who are more...

On a side issue, it's a mistake to insist that all aspects of a psychopathology be negative. I'm given to understand that some musicians even like having Tourette's syndrome. Well, drummers anyway. I have to object! First you said "musicians", then you said "drummers"! One thing is not like the oth...

In other news, I scored 30 and so apparently I fail as an Aspie. For those interested, Take The AQ Test: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html Psychologist Simon Baron-Cohen and his colleagues at Cambridge's Autism Research Centre have created the Autism-Spectrum Quotient, or AQ, as a...

Why are they "disinterested"? Or, more specifically, more disinterested than men? After all that interesting discussion, I'll add just a few points: Biological tendencies will be mostly very general, because almost any specific human behavior is learned. Risk-averse vs risk-seeking is a good exampl...

It might be true that (on average) women are inherently more uncomfortable than men in environments where feelings don't matter. It might also be true that (on average) girls are steered away from such environments, even of they personally like them. But it will be true that many women's choices in...

If a physics department has no women, does that mean there is hiring discrimination? Only if your job in sociology is to find discrimination. [...] Oh, dear, more conservative blowhards who hate science when it disagrees with them. It's both true and important that the existence of all-male Physics...

For those who may be interested, two entries from Razib 1) The chasm in perception between the humanities and science. The eternal two cultures reprised http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2013/07/the-eternal-two-cultures-reprised/ The article is OK, but I think commenter "Chas" has the more rel...

If so then someone has gone down a very deep rabbit hole .... I'm almost sure that exact issue has come up on the Slympit somewhere. Perhaps Scented Nectar can help you. Hello, what? You called? I've lost track of the conversations. What can I help with? :) It's a "could even Radical Femenists be t...

Steersman wrote:If so then someone has gone down a very deep rabbit hole ....

I'm almost sure that exact issue has come up on the Slympit somewhere. Perhaps Scented Nectar can help you.

How could she possibly know that that "objectification" was taking place if there was no visible, "objective", actions to give substance to those desires? . . . looked at a woman with lust . . . A Test Of Objectification Theory: The Effect Of The Male Gaze On Appearance Concerns In College Women

In the Evolution v God documentary Ray Comfort asks P Z if he has ever looked at a woman with lust and he answers enthusiatically in the affirmative that indeed he has : So I wonder what Rebecca and Ophelia and Stephanie would make of this : Would they see it as blatant misogyny or would they defen...

^^ Distinction not "destination".

Genuine question. Is there a word which a sociologist would use to describe a member of an "oppressed" race behaving badly towards a member of another "oppressed" race because of that racial difference. [â€¦] I've seen the word prejudice being used. Prejudice plus power = Racism. They gave whites a...

Genuine question. Is there a word which a sociologist would use to describe a member of an "oppressed" race behaving badly towards a member of another "oppressed" race because of that racial difference. As an example, an south east Asian Person behaving badly towards a person from India. Both of th...

Abbie: Virology (ERV, to be precise) John C. Welch: IT Skep Tickle: M.D Barn Owl: Teaching at medical school John Greg: English Literature Steersman: Pain in the ass, Ph.D Phil Giordana: Musician, skydiving instructor Sacha: dog expert, and managing director of Gender Traitors International AndrewV6...

But note how they misappropriate those terms, like they do with victim blaming (which is a real and serious issue). In effect, they ridicule possibly sound theories until nobody takes them seriously anymore. The actual microaggression report I read there (see wiki talk page) explains it much differ...

I was playing World of Warcraft one day - fighting panthers in Stranglethorn Vale to be exact - and I couldn't figure out why they kept MOANING like horny women. Turns out a porno was auto-playing in the background, but I was too dumb to figure it out, so I sat there scratching my head, completely ...

Since no one else is doing the Basket of Lynx: [ youtube]rbmObjwrB5U[ /youtube] For the full, welcome-to-the-slympit effect, I recommend watching in HD with the volume cranked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbmObjwrB5U Lovely. I recommend cranking the volume, as you say, and playing it at the same...

Since no one else is doing the Basket of Lynx:

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For the full, welcome-to-the-slympit effect, I recommend watching in HD with the volume cranked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbmObjwrB5U

. . . what is feminism in its most basic format but the demand for gender equality . . . Well, that's the way it's presented. Indeed, because no one disagrees anymore. In spite of that significant progress has been made though there is much more to be done Ah, but that usually means that women are ...

I used to listen to 'The Atheist Experience' podcast a few years ago, as a kind of guilty pleasure. You never really learn much from listening to Dillahunty and friends, but it was sort of funny hearing them destroy the arguments of some really stoooopid Christians who would ring in and try to use ...

Watson managed to make it self-sustaining. Name recognition, famous for being famous. Despise her as you will, but don't mistake her for anyone else's creation. -Vh Basically you're saying she's the Kim Kardashian of the skeptic movement. Well... Be that as it may, if she ever does a sex tape of ta...

That's not the claim. The claim is that Rebecca Watson is only (and I use this word strictly in the relative sense) famous for her feminist activism. That's obviously not true, as she's on one of the most popular skepticism podcasts out there. If PZ Myers had a breakdown and became a MGTOW tomorrow...

This is a week old, but when I ran into it a few days ago and the video creeped the hell out of me. I don't make a habit of using the word "creepy" lightly. I strongly recommend you have a look at some other somegreybloke videos on Youtube before forming an opinion on any single vid - he's more of ...

It's even more than the ability to speak freely about personal topics Why are men almost always shut out of these conversations? They have girlfriends, wives, daughters, female friends, sisters, and mothers. Why keep them in the dark, and fearful to ask questions? It makes no fucking sense. My wife...

Hi VAXherd. To be honest, at this point, I have no bloody idea what the SJW definition of racism is. I suspect they don't, either. As far as sociology goes, I'm less than interested in the subject. It has, at least in my country, led to kerfuffles of epic proportions. Maybe I am being a bit unfair ...

Since you took the time, I'm curious: Before I spoke up, did you believe that the SJW definition of racism was "official" within Sociology? Why or why not? I didn't... As long as you're around, what did you think of PZ's implication that sociology is a "fundamental discipline" of it's own, not a sc...

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