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If their lives are scarred by this, it's something that they brought on themselves. They are young, but not minors. They are responsible for their actions, and their words. If the articles about their hate "last forever" on the internet, it is nothing but a self-inflicted scar. If it leads some fuc...

So ... some freak sent Rebecca Watson a gross ms paint file, supposed to be her, with the label, "Rebecca Watson is an object." It's weird/disturbing and certainly counts as harassment. She pontificates a bit about it and singles out Paula Kirby and Shermer for attention, claiming of Shermer, "A si...

You see, Meta, she doesn't have to twist anything there. It's served on a silver platter. After reading those horrible radfem articles a few pages back found myself thinking, â€œAre there any men who really think of women like that?â€ Then that horrible mspainting came along and I'm thinking maybe...

I'm going to sound like an idiot here... but... I was pretty sure the reason people wore high heels was because it made them look taller. People are more impressed by taller people and tall people are more likely to get top jobs (as far as I remember from shitty pop recruitment facts). Therefore if...

So I don't think the doxxing is appropriate; what I do think is appropriate is informing the police of this harrassment (this is not a "peaceful protest", it's clearly harrassment and abuse) and ensuring a warning is given - and, if necessary, a restraining order. A doxx can also "last forever" on ...

http://i.imgur.com/kQ0ZBEQ.jpg Probably the most ignorant tweet I have received in a long time... First, there are many degrees of blind including legally blind people who can see color. ... and since when do blind people deny color exists? They're extremely justified in believing color exists. Usi...

Lsuoma wrote:
Altair wrote:
They are trying to project their brand of thinking into a group of people who can't even agree whether bread is bad or good, for crying out loud. :snooty:
What are your opinions of bread, citizen? Be VERY, VERY careful how you answer!

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Stephanie's post has these two comments regarding Oneiros666's post a while ago 16 Forbidden Snowflake February 2, 2013 at 5:41 pm (UTC -6) I do not mean to be off topic. Crowepps, what does Greta Christinaâ€™s adopted African trans-little person refer to. It appears to present a hypothetical case, ...

Back when I was a casual reader of FTB, if I saw something like Steffie's post, without knowledge of the context, I really would have believed that this is a den of rapists and serial harassers. I am just glad that I came here to see for myself. It is a shame that many people will just take Zvan's ...

But there's no other place. If someone blogs about it, the comments thread dies after a maximum 2 or so days. FTB is a continuous discussion but you pretty much have to agree with them or be banned. You know the original 'slime pit' was only called that because they wanted to discredit dissenting o...

Altair wrote: Oh, my! he has just stalked her by asking about her day!. (Apparently he has "harassed" her before but I haven't been able to find that comment). Also, the last line sounds very strange, given the definition of a whenwe, I don't see what it has to do with bob. They have accused him of...

Here's a response to the gender/equity feminism division from a feminist blogger: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2013/01/on-feminism-gender-roles-social-constructs-and-biology.html I quite like her posts as a representative for the feminist point of view even if I disagree with her co...

The guys at Pharyngula seem to know a lot about the people here. I'm feeling stalked and harassed :o :shock: :? ! Make it stop, make it stop! sacha.PNG They got that right, we do love sacha. Even though she never posted those pictures in the schoolgirl outfit like Mykeru asked. Let's see the kind of...

You know what, though? The general sentiment in the comments over there is that the photoshops are "disgusting" and "hateful" - but personally, I'd laugh my ass off if people made humorous shops of me or my avatar, or gave me clever nicknames. If you can't laugh at yourself, what can you laugh at? ...

Janine admits she comes to the pit often! :o

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Utoh. Looks like Stephie-pookins is not pleased :D http://www.freezepage.com/1359839261CBYUSOIJFR :lol: - Damn, that review of Steffy's history on the pit is a hoot. There has been some seriously funny shit posted here about her. Course, there's vitriol, too. And were Steffy a more honest, consiste...

This needs to change then, doesn't it? I can honestly say that every time I have been on a date with a woman, kissed a woman, or had sex with a woman I have been the one to initiate. (Okay, maybe there was one girlfriend for whom it was like, we just eased into it, there was no initiating per se, i...

I just checked the Thunderdome on Pharyngula, no wonder the pit has been getting more traffic lately: 415 finkfree 2 February 2013 at 1:27 pm (UTC -6) Out of curiosity, I wonder if anyone here is a â€˜defecterâ€™ from the slymepit? Of course it wouldnâ€™t be necerssary to defect from the slymepit a...

To me, using the definitions I provided, that would make me an egalitarian or an equalist, not a feminist. Hey, let 'em live. You can call yourself whatever you like. I am very keen on the idea of feminism because of the evolutionary basis of gender and the issues it has caused in our history. You ...

They don't tie them up and force liquor down their throats. They just give them more and more to drink. And then it's the woman's decision to drink all that or to say, "No thanks, I'm near my limit". We all have the responsibility to look out for ourselves. If they get lucky and she is passed out o...

I'm not seeing much conflict between feminism and those other 'isms. (All the bolding is mine) Feminism : Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women .[1][2] This includes seeking to estab...

I seriously doubt that many people thought this through, when they hopped on the bandwagon of equality of outcome. The gender feminists especially in my view, have successfully opened a can of worms. Good point, I think they always thought of equality as something that would benefit them, and didn'...

Eeek! That *should* have been when her daughter *isn't* around. Wow. That just sounded all sorts of wrong! I did think that came across a little harsh. The DG situation sounds real shitty, but you are handling it admirably. I'm a bitch but not that much of a bitch! I'm trying to handle the DG thing...

Grrrr. So, my guy has thrush on top of all this other crap right now *and* I'm having to deal, once again, with that fucked up piece of vomit from Brampton Ontario who won't leave me alone. Now she's pretended to be me on Twitter and making like I'm obsessed with and in love with Justin Vacula. Not...

See, this is why I don't like most feminists. They think of every situation from the woman's perspective. Like this stupid "drunk...consent" law proposal. They say "...radical notion that women are people." then push for laws that either give women extra rights or fewer responsibilities. This is wh...

People get themselves drunk, no one can get someone drunk. Someone can give you glass after glass of liquor but if you don't drink them, that's the end of it. Society needs to stop seeing women as frail beings unable to even control how much alcohol they drink. And needs to offer the same protectio...

Just to clarify, when I say "Anytime a man and a woman engage in sex, it was because the man made it happen" in my previous post, I mean that this is what seems to be a prevalent view for many people, maybe even for society, not that it is how I think things happen.

Also the standard should apply equally. If a woman says "No" any time during the encounter, the man should desist. (the same applies in reverse as well). That's clear. That's unambiguous. Some undefined " too intoxicated to consent" is unclear and ambiguous. We also still hold drunk people legally ...

Maybe, I don't know. Look trying to come up with one rule for every possible sex act is extraordinarily difficult. But that's something we as a society have to do. If we have laws that specify that a certain sex act is illegal, we need to come up for rules that cover every possible variation and si...

I don't think so. If you believe Jesus was the son of God, you are more or less a Christian. If you believe in equal rights for women, you are more or less a feminist. You are asserting that feminism is the only ideology that is able to believe in equal rights for women. That's the same as assertin...

Followed a Skepchick link over to a presentation at secularwoman.org titled "Opportunity and Access in the Freethought Movement." Includes this helpful diagram, which "illustrates the difference between treating everyone the same and treating everyone with fairness with respect to their differing n...

Feminism is about equality. It hasn't been hijacked, but more appropriated by many people who believe in many things. I agree, men tend to take more risks and try more things than women. This may lead to imbalances in things. OTOH, we've never had an American president. Even if probability says tha...

Incognito, sorry for the late response, I was madly busy at work the last couple days. It's an issue of values in the sense that it deals with what should be as opposed to what is . Science deals with what is; ethics deals with what should be, and is a matter of values, and can be informed by scienc...

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I thought he identifies as "agnostic". Apparently he doesn't like labels but is willing to say he's an atheist, albeit reluctantly http://www.michaelshermer.com/2005/06/why-i-am-an-atheist/ I am an atheist. There, I said it. Are you happy, all you atheists out there who have remonstrated with me fo...

Rifts?, Debates? Why are we are buying into their narrative. Although they are relatively large in Forum terms they are a small bubble in terms of the entire movement. Almost all of the A lister Atheists have come out against them (or are silent). They are a bubble. Other than Richard Dawkins, who ...

Comical Jenni has a new post up. The usual stuff about why she's sick of the Skeptic movement because it's not what she wants it to be. Nice to see that her flounce remains as impermanent as ever, despite previous baboon wailings to the contrary. Anyways, this is the bit that stuck out for me: Iâ€™...

From the A+ thread about the WiS conference http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2664/postufz.png Text version of the relevant part: I used to have the same thing happen in one of my social circles, what had about 15-20 women and six or eight men. The guys would feel that they were being actively exclud...

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ScentedNectar wrote:Are subs still men only?
Well, for the most part they're the ones who want to be walked on with stiletto heels and get golden showers.

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When I was a teenager I was obsessed with WW2 history, especially the history of Germany's U-boats. I desperately wanted to join the navy and become a submariner. My heart just fell when I learned that subs were men only :( In the end I am glad that I gave up on that dream, b/c the military, and es...

Agreed. "Under the Dome" was his recent novel that came the closest to vintage King, but it doesn't come close to The Stand, or Salem's Lot. Under the Dome was a re-write of a very, very early partial book he wrote that he never finished. That could explain the vintage-y quality of the book. The ca...

I loved Night Shift, Pet Sematary, and Skeleton Crew but haven't been quite as thrilled since. I did enjoy 11/22/63. It's a page-turner, though still not vintage King. Agreed. "Under the Dome" was his recent novel that came the closest to vintage King, but it doesn't come close to The Stand, or Sal...

To be fair, there are lots and lots of "Gender Studies" papers out there that they count as evidence. The fact that they ALL beg the question, is apparently irrelevant. It is my wish that someone creates an Artificial Intelligence which, having no preconceptions, can perform an unbiased study on th...

Hey folks. New here. :) I consider myself a feminist but find a lot of evo psych to be pretty good science, and think we might be a primarily patriarchal species by nature, in the sense that bonobos are primarily matriarchal. I also think gender has a lot of cultural influences that then feed back ...

Regarding the term "patriarchy" I've come to realize that there are two separate definitions. The anthropological "patriarchy" (which seems to be a widely accepted description of historical societal models, kings etc) and the feminist form, which seems to be rather less well defined, and refers to ...

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Probably an automated filter that looks for known slymepity names.

Devoutly religious - he also spends much of his free time writing about how it is man's duty to OBEY GOD. So I would not be surprised if some of these TWRA people are not religious also... Indeed. You and Renee are quite correct, I hadn't checked the comments in that "Core Beliefs" page: Not quite ...

Altair - I've just asked the Twitter account for this site if they are religious. If that's the case, it would explain *a lot*. Otherwise, I'm left scratching my head. See, in some sense, *I* am a "housewife" or a SAHM. I supplement our income by working as a freelance web developer. I personally w...

Excuse me while my head explodes for a bit. We talk a bit here about feminism and MRA stuff. I have, until today, been blissfully unaware of TWRA - Traditional Women's Rights Activists. Someone brought an article to my attention on Twitter and I've become forcibly educated: http://femininemystiquet...

Bwahahahaha! I love the pit's new ad feature. Do you wanna guess how many blood vessels the SJWs would pop while screaming misogyny if they saw this ad: http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5004/55056827.png Actually the "Barbie murder" pictures look kind of cool, although it made me laugh how they in...

Batshit Benson wrote something about her dropping out of Reap's show: http://www.freezepage.com/1359513592ZJVSBAAWFE http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2013/01/still-eating-cat-food/ It bothers me a bit to have to admit it, but the "there is no valid excuse to decline" part was weak. ...

I did something very fucking cool in the lab today. Very. Fucking. Cool. I cannot believe this shit is working, much less working as well as it is. I didnt want to go to work today because I *KNEW* that this experiment wasnt going to work... and then it did. This has been happening a lot lately-- g...

Dick, I think you wanted the thread to focus more on skepticism applied to feminism, so please let me know if you think I'm derailing the thread by talking about definitions and humanism. On that topic, have you read this article by Christina Hoff Sommers? It's about the wage gap, which is one of th...

Certainly what is generally termed 'egalitarian' or 'equity' feminism is close to humanist values. I'd also say the general liberal claim 'I'm a feminist' often comes from individuals who think 'feminism' just means opposing discrimination, rather than believing in a strong ideology based on patria...

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Just got back from the doctor's office. Turns out I've got a rather nasty case of diabetes to add to my collection. Fucking hell. What type is it mate if you don't mind me asking? Type II, Tony. Apparently I've had it for a while... Al, I'm not a doctor and I don't know if this applies to your part...

Ophelia's timeline is always full of interesting stuff, even if it's not written by her. She has a RT that links to an article in VeganFeminista called "Sexism in the Animal Rights Movements" One of their points is about a promotional stunt by some company called "Lush": (Bolding mine) Recently, Lus...

Latest post by PZ: It was Svan. For the record, I couldn't give a hot gay fuck that Justin Vacula is going either. Crap, you're right, I could have sworn I clicked on Pharyngula. What bothers me is how again they're creating grants or privileges for a specific gender, while decrying the privileges ...

And oooofff course, mood2 offers an awesome truth. Nothing untrue about what he said. All setar does is say "well most of the time the person getting defensive (which really means, the new guy in the argument, since A+ people are sure to be "getting defensive") is actually DOING SOMETHING WRONG! We...

Latest post by PZ: http://www.freezepage.com/1359486762MRMJLQYIWC In case you missed it, one of the commenters here at FtB has had enough: Iâ€™m trying to figure out how to do this but I think in honor of Justin, Iâ€™d like to pick 2 deserving non-male members of the FTB community who are having tro...

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