If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:52 pm Sorry Spence - not perfect - I try to add *some* in when I realise but it is very hard to not start using 'they'/'them'/'slimepitters' as a general perjorative term to refer to you all... Maybe you can trust a Pharyngulite (?) when he says he is trying not to? Should help b...

Is it a consequence of the war between the sexes? A serious deficiency of empathy? A manifestation of a basic sociopathology if not psychopathology? Whatever the reason it sure looks to be a pervasive one extending to both sexes and variations thereof: we have seen the enemy and he is us â€¦. What ...

Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:05 am ... I see factual evidence for sexism in nearly every facet of society in the US, (and in the UK it is not much better) It's ubiquitous. Not only is the sexism rampant, it is cheered on, and held in high regard. â€¦ And for another example, you might be interested in this s...

Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:05 am Yes, I quite agree with your argument there. Unfortunately some here are apparently still somewhat reluctant to consider the factual evidence for a fairly broad and problematic spectrum of sexism in society. I see factual evidence for sexism in nearly every facet of society...

Josh just needs a good lay. I'm sure of it. Everything about his frustrated, screechy persona suggests a theoretical spokesgay rather than a practical one. Certainly seems to need something, although I tend to think a mirror to illustrate his hypocrisy â€“ for example, his support for â€œUncle Mary...

I just wanted to delurk to give some reasons why so many people (including myself, as something of a habitual lurker) choose to do so. A) They don't have confidence in their own writing. This is something which effects me a lot, especially when posting on forums like this, with people who are well ...

Splendid little exchange over at the Prune's hovel: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/09/photoshopped-again/ Josh: frustrated martinet â€“ fuck all in the way of any authority or ability to impose anything on anybody but gamely tries anyway ... and succeeds only in making himsel...

... Its Greek roots are obvious: â€˜logos' means â€˜thought', particularly rational thought... Oh dear. The (attic) Greek word logos (pron. log-oss) is one of those nearly untranslatable words, as it means vastly different things in different contexts. It can mean merely (and exactly) the equivalen...

I would say that all it proves is that you have a predilection for blowing smoke out of your ass. Pictures or STFU! Interesting provenance for the colloquialism which I havenâ€™t yet fully tracked to its lair. However, from the book (a real one), â€œ Buried Alive, The Terrifying History of our Most...

[P.S. Bhoytony is a notorious cunt. Avoid.] Thanks for the "heads-up" ... Same as me, pal. Takes one to know one. Now fuck right off. Considering that you have fuck all in the way of any ability to enforce that imperative I would say that all it proves is that you have a predilection for blowing sm...

Such a brilliant riposte. You must have developed that skill in the Pharnygula fencing club .. I'm delighted that at least someone else gets it! I agree, that was pure fucking class. Last time I heard a bon mot quipped quite so elegantly .. musta been in .. The Tile. In Paisley. In 1978. Lunchtime ...

Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:13 am ... I think youâ€™re to be commended for braving the Pit, for being less hasty than most of the Pharyngulities in tarring everyone with the same brush, as well as for being prepared to countenance PZâ€™s â€œstern looksâ€ and worse. But I think you misjudge the Pit if you t...

Hello? Anyone here? Was it something I said? Well, if inviting someone back for coffee is potential rape, I don't know what you just did to Abbie back there, probably potential genocide or something. You may well have a point there. My invite was cordial and totally unrelated to anything creepy. An...

My good friend Al Stefanelli has left Freethought Blogs noting he wants to be mostly a lone ranger. He notes various personalities online such as myself, Maria Maltseva, and Paula Kirby next to FTB people saying he wants to promote, support people regardless of drama. http://freethoughtblogs.com/al...

masakari2012 wrote:Oops, that video was already posted. My browser didn't show it when I scrolled by the first time.

Probably useful to have it adjacent to my response to it. Had intended to at least include the link without embedding it, but deleted too much of the original post and not enough time to correct it ...

Noelplum YouTube Great video of noelplum; thanks for the link. Liked his analogy about cults looking inward, while real social justice movements tend to look outward. And his comments about the A+ Education Forum showing some similarities with Big Brother and the Ministry of Information hit the nai...

My biggest mistake on FtBs will be saying some people here are "nice" Well, I'm not "nice" so as far as I'm concerned you can just go and fuck yourself. Just to prove how much â€œweâ€ are different from the â€œBaboonsâ€, maybe you should have added some suggestions to him about what he should do ...

My biggest mistake on FtBs will be saying some people here are "nice" Well, I'm not "nice" so as far as I'm concerned you can just go and fuck yourself. Just to prove how much â€œweâ€ are different from the â€œBaboonsâ€, maybe you should have added some suggestions to him about what he should do ...

Fuck me with a Fish-Fork. "Steersman" is on my hide-list. Occasionally, against my better judgement, I choose to view his contributions, and am almost always astonished as to how he beats me hands-down in the race for "The Most Boring, Prolix, Tedious, Pointless, Pedantic, Long-winded, Irrelevant, ...

... I think youâ€™re to be commended for braving the Pit, for being less hasty than most of the Pharyngulities in tarring everyone with the same brush, as well as for being prepared to countenance PZâ€™s â€œstern looksâ€ and worse. But I think you misjudge the Pit if you think that it is only abou...

Fuck me with a Fish-Fork. "Steersman" is on my hide-list. Occasionally, against my better judgement, I choose to view his contributions, and am almost always astonished as to how he beats me hands-down in the race for "The Most Boring, Prolix, Tedious, Pointless, Pedantic, Long-winded, Irrelevant, ...

sacha almost always agrees with MKG â€¦. Aversion to smilies might be a confounding correlation derived from a common precept: One despises Hypocrisy, with a vicious passion. And that includes the hypocrisy that one assumes that one's interlocutor is inferior to one's-self in determining one's mean...

Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:59 pm So all RWs threats are trolls and she only gets a few - dodgy premise but I'll give it a go. Does that invalidate her point that this is used against women on the internet who speak out to shut them up? Some good examples in the 'Hate directed at Women' series by Amy from b...

Beers (12oz's or 40's) all around! Stepped in the party I was drunk as hell, 3 bitches already said "Zhu, your breath smells"/40 oz in hand, that's what I got/ "Yo man, you see PZ hurlin' in the parkin' lot?"/Stepped on your foot, cos dis yo ho/axed her to provide evidence of widespread threats and...

No one should burn steaks. Medium rare/well is the only way to go. BLASPHEMER!!!! Mmmm. A " snag " in our plans for world immolation. How does sausage play into world immolation? I blame the patriarchy! Hide the sausage? You distinctly said that. I have my FfTB-auto-translator'sâ„¢ word on that FAC...

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2012/09/13/within-the-movement/ If someone takes an out-of-context tweet from your clearly marked personal Twitter account that was never about them (see comment 59), prints it next to your professional activist title, then coordinates a letter-writing cam...

... **TRIGGER WARNING FOR FIST-EATINGLY AWFUL COMEDY INTERNET NAMES* SetÃ¡r, genderqueer Elf-Sheriff of Atheism+: Now I need a new phone and have little to no idea of how Iâ€™ll actually get one. Canâ€™t go through my carrier because Iâ€™d need to deal with my mother and am in no state to hear anot...

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Commander Tuvok: I cannot get the video you sort-of linked to within an image.

Links?

This seems to be the one - if this is what you're asking for:

CFI's Women in Secularism Conference | The Intersection of Non-theism and Feminism

... Melody: "I've been in bed for days crying about this" More crying for sympathy from these people. How does anyone take them seriously when they are so easily reduced to tears? There are many men who become immediately emasculated at the sight of a woman crying, and they give in to whatever they...

... Guest has now been proven wrong, tis all I wanted. Just out of curiosity, how do you get that he has been â€œproven wrongâ€? She used the information without attribution and suggested that she wrote it. Which is, if Iâ€™m not mistaken, the dictionary definition of plagiarism ... intention isnâ...

PZ's post is almost breathtakingly stupid. His entire thesis is that of taking sides. If you are not completely on his side then you are on the side of Markuse or those who want to rape prominent skeptics. Not only that but all those lunatics and rapers are in league. HERE on this messageboard! Pla...

So all RWs threats are trolls and she only gets a few - dodgy premise but I'll give it a go. Does that invalidate her point that this is used against women on the internet who speak out to shut them up? Some good examples in the 'Hate directed at Women' series by Amy from both inside and outside th...

... She used the information without attribution and suggested that she wrote it. Which is, if Iâ€™m not mistaken, the dictionary definition of plagiarism ... intention isnâ€™t magic .... I'll just jump onto the end of Jolly Steersman's comment. I was amused that Guest used my power and authority i...

Guest has now been proven wrong, tis all I wanted. Well "Guest" was both right and wrong strictly speaking. *shrug* I doubt that "Guest" is going to be too happy about the outcome. That is my sense of it anyway. How so â€œwrong strictly speakingâ€? Did she commit plagiarism or not â€“ intentionall...

Oh gosh, look Guest, the information came from college textbooks and notes but not only that Wooly has been open and honest about it - so it was bloody pointless you bothering. I don't think so... If we fuck up, we deserve to be called on it, and Wooly has learned an important lesson RE: attributio...

Sorry, canâ€™t quite quite make out that image. Is that PZ and many of his commentariat exhibiting its claws? ..... No, the claws are Watson's vagina dentata, if I'm not mistaken. The bird's a tattoo. And luckily we can't see Watson's face. :lol: :-) Yea, that works too .... But curious about peopl...

You complain about strong language at the end of your post; you havenâ€™t been regularly receiving strangely scrawled cartoons of you having sex with animals lately, have you That's funny, PZ. Especially when it's Watson who's known to do send uninvited sexually graphic images that include animals ...

Hello, i'm new here. Welcome to The Pit ... watch out for the Pendulum ... :-) Also, i'm new to this atheist mess that's been going on but it didn't take me too long to understand who're in the wrong. The last straw was when i wrote a perfectly civil message that contained ftb / atheism+ criticism ...

guest: I get the impression that franc here doesn't understand what's going on. Wrong, franc doesn't care. .... But I'm not wasting time on someone that gets off on making themselves feel clever with obscure and endless word salad. If I wanted that, I'd read Steersman. I resemble that! Grey Lining ...

... Serious LoLs ... :-) Guest shows up, plays peek-a-boo, and expects some/many/all will play. Dinna forget the "group psycology" bit. This part has me a bit bemused, all I can say is that any two here will more likely that not to have three opinions. And Steersman will have four all by himself. :...

Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:17 am His .... though nice that he admits that he went off the deep end .... maybe there is a "Baboon Spring" in the works? .... Well, your replies have now been removed from the thread (which is now pretty much empty) and the replies that weren't memory-holed locked in a thread....

"Guest" here would make a "wonderful" prosecutor. ... Judge: Oh...Kay. Before I charge you with contempt of court, does the defence have anything to say? Defence: Defence rests, your honour. Seriously bizarre behavior. First rule of skepticism: the one making the claim provides the evidence, and gi...

I donâ€™t, although I note a recent post by Geoffrey Falk that seems to corroborate your argument Sheesh, so it didn't really register after all. What exactly do you think Geoffrey is telling you? Sheesh, yourself. I was in the midst of the previous post to you when I saw the one from Geoffrey but ...

Circumstantial evidence is certainly rather strong, although as I mentioned in an earlier post and which you havenâ€™t addressed it seems still quite possible that the UK site is the one guilty of plagiarism. FWIW, Tim Field's UK pages have existed in substantially the same form going back to 2003:...

it seems still quite possible I lol'd. I do stand-up as well .... ...that the UK site is the one guilty of plagiarism. There is a way to determine this for certain. Are you unaware of it? I will try to be gracious if you profess genuine ignorance. Yes, Iâ€™m unaware of it. I looked on the UK site a...

Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:07 am My response: ... His .... though nice that he admits that he went off the deep end .... maybe there is a "Baboon Spring" in the works? .... Well, kudos to wowbagger for stepping back from the death threats. Although I note that pointing out a baboon makes death threats is "...

So, do you intend to continue with the peek-a-boo for a bit more? That depends. I think Steersman is on the verge of recognizing all the facts. Oh shit, KiwiInOz may have just gotten there first. See how many you can hook? :popcorn: Depends what you mean by that too. I do hope to see more of you in...

Try and ingratiate yourself. Send zit cream. That should work really well ... :-) Some how, I do not think so. My dear good fellow, if we had an Order of the Cussedness here I believe you would qualify. You certainly qualify for something. :popcorn: Bee in my bonnet; burr under my saddle? Not sure ...

This is no smear. (Unless smears can be true.) Always amusing listening to baboons using words like "smears". Like Hitler calling the KKK racist. Thatâ€™s making the rather grand assumption that the â€œGuestâ€ in question is actually a dyed-in-the-wool baboon, that he has bought the Kool-Aid lock-...

Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:00 am My response: ... maybe there is a "Baboon Spring" in the works? Wouldn't count on it. Seems you've foolishly decided to engage with .. emos ... I'll send flowers, are you being interred or cremmed? Fools rush in ... but not banned yet, although Iâ€™ve got three, count them,...

Zvan: So who are these â€œslavering dogsâ€ who have become less than human by expressing an opinion of Dawkins, Dr. Coyne? You bitch.. you are the slavering dog. I will let Doris Lessing explain why . It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-...

... You could lay out your case from the outset instead of being coy about it. I did say â€œmaybe the UK site is the guilty partyâ€ and â€œshe doesnâ€™t appear to be guiltyâ€; not everyone has the time or inclination to duplicate whatever effort you put into your sleuthing .... But I note that th...

The A+theists are all up in arms about the Ron Lindsay piece on divisiveness and the secular movement, when in reality, they are the movement. ... My impression from Lindsayâ€™s article is that the A+theists crowd is, thankfully, a bit of a side-show relative to those affiliated with the Secular Co...

.... Agreed. She could maybe have made it clearer at the top who the source or author was, but she doesnâ€™t appear to be guilty of any plagiarism herself. The Mendezes might be as there are definitely some similarities, notably the stuff on â€œgang bullyingâ€, You people are awfully gullible. Kri...

@ Steersman- I think there's a distinction between fantasy (Martin, Tolkien, Pratchett, Peake) and science fiction (Asimov, Cherryh, Delany); I prefer the fantasy genre, but I like a lot of science fiction too. To me, Martin's descriptions of the religions of Westeros read as subtle criticism and m...

http://isgodasquirrel.blogspot.com/2012/07/anatomy-of-bully.html http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/bully.htm http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/npd.htm Wooly Bumblebee is a plagiarist. Really? She seems to credit this piece right on her page: About the author: Kris Mendez co-authored a bullyin...

.... Fortunately, at least Santorum and Bachmann are gone and the horse-race is over, but I sort of doubt that the ethos and values â€“ such as they are â€“ have changed much. Just once in my lifetime I'd like there to be a presidential candidate who's an atheist and a George RR Martin fan and who ...

Although I note, as you mentioned, that â€œJohn Brownâ€ has lit into Physioproffe. But what is also interesting â€“ and somewhat commendable â€“ is that Browian â€“ a frequent blogger on FfTB, if Iâ€™m not mistaken â€“ has also leveled criticisms at PP as well: PhysioProffe is low league and expen...

The Baboons' token performing gibbon, Physioproffe, has been caught out as a thick, deceitful cunt: http://elevatorgate.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/fftb-aplusscribe-mendaciously-paints-critic-of-atheismplus-cult-as-white-supremacist/ You can see the whole, painful...whateverthefuck it is in all its gl...

Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. Welcome to my fucking recurring nightmare from which there is no awakening. You may have already seen this Slate article â€œRule of Lord: The Republican plan to nullify the courts and establish Christian theocracy.â€ The lead-of...

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