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<snip> So? How is that relevant to whether he's a "hypocrite" for supposedly using illegal immigrants to staff his hotels? Which he isn't. That was the question on the table; looks like you're moving the goalposts - apparently a symptom of TDS. You were making a bit of sense in criticizing Brive fo...

To put it another way, one you still won't understand but might amuse bystanders, would be if you complained about prostitution while relying on it as your only means of human contact. As Trump complains about migrants and chain migration while relying it for both family and business. Understand? N...

To put it another way, one you still won't understand but might amuse bystanders, would be if you complained about prostitution while relying on it as your only means of human contact. As Trump complains about migrants and chain migration while relying it for both family and business. Understand? N...

No end to it apparently : Rotherham grooming gangs: National Crime Agency investigating more than 420 suspects in 'unprecedented' operation <snip> No doubt instructions will be issued to bring in the real culprits. Soon, any white males they can lay their hands on will be brought in willy nilly (an...

Jordan Peterson has written a new forward for a new edition of The Gulag Archipelago. https://quillette.com/2018/11/01/the-gulag-archipelago-a-new-foreword-by-jordan-b-peterson/ Fuck that rabid individualist bugman consumerist, He is a NPC. LoL ... Though, re your "there are two genders" avatar, yo...

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/396346-mar-a-lago-requesting-permission-to-hire-78-foreign-workers There you go. Trump hypocrisy in a foreign-flavored nutshell. Enjoy. Not like you have your thumb on the scales or anything like that ... The Washington Post reported that other similar cl...

We could probably all do with a refresher of Jonathan Haidt's work. Peterson is also trying to address the underlying problem. The political disagreements come down to differences in our moral axioms. Fundamentally, yes. Conservative people tend to be more interested in Loyalty, Authority and Sanct...

Steers: What do you make of the Soldiers of Odin Vancouver Island? LoL. Learn something new every day: Soldiers of Odin threaten removal of Nanaimo’s tent city But a camp spokesman says he’s not worried about Sunday after chatting with Soldiers of Odin earlier this week. “I question the whole post ...

The rightardation of Brive (and others...) was the natural conclusion of the pyt since any community that focuses so intensely on any particular culture war issue like that (SJWs in muh) will end up so if it doesn't already attract weirdos (it did, though I'm glad Steersman is still out of jail). B...

Where were you when Kirb was writing his walls of text up-thread? You’ve always been very selective mandating who gets a say on given topics. :lol: If the Pit closes, team CFB-FTP-Kirb will get a dedicated chapter labeled “Applied toxicity”. You continue posting your political stances here, forcing...

<snip> I believe a drew a spectrum that drew necessary distinctions and I completely disavowed the magic blood racism, antisemitism and conspiracy theories of the alt right. This is why I can’t take you entirely seriously. Yeah, but a couple of points- One, what you think you made clear is not alwa...

What a load of crap. You have nice unicorn rainbow theories. Like liberalism. You try and apply them in the real world which demands compromises. Realpolitik. You end up with a spectrum of RL application - formed around which compromises are adopted. This spectrum is a flawed delivery of the base i...

The root definition of liberalism is freedom. Authoritarian liberalism is a oxymoron. I am a liberal. I don't agree with PZ. It shows the compromising spectrum caused by real politik on theoretical constructs. Your liberalism is not that we are seeing being applied. It’s like the ‘democratic fascis...

Also, how the hell is everyone? Well, well, well - long time no see. :-) Seem to recollect having seen you traipsing through WEIT some time back, and wondered how you were doing. Thanks for the link to the Areo summary of their foray into "grievance studies" - looks pretty detailed, comprehensive, ...

Just got my last paper in for the year. ... Working towards what? Did I miss anything? ... This maybe: https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1056522669351419904 Seems a credible picture, not a photoshop, at least if this is true: ANARCHIST BOOKFAIR, SAN FRANCISCO, MARCH 18, 2006 And part of my "m...

<snip> Oh dear. Well, I tried to get him to tone it down with the pissing on the Quran thing with zero success. He not only did not get that it was counter productive he tried to administer a purity test on me. .... Well, that's what you get for arguing with mad AIs: [BBvideo=560,315]https:... www....

He goes through long stretches of re-tweeting the same thing again and again. Anyone seen Steersman lately? He seems busy on Twitter, spreading the gospel of pissing and nuking. True story, one of his Tweets ended up in my local school district's student-led presentation on Islamaphobia a couple of...

I've been told that blunt force trauma to the kidneys can start a man menstruating (or at least give a reasonable facsimile of it). You might consider posting that as a suggestion for solving the "transgender problem" at the Guardian, even if some might see that as "stochastic terrorism" ... https:...

He goes through long stretches of re-tweeting the same thing again and again. Anyone seen Steersman lately? LoL. AKA "pedantic killer Canadian robot" ... But y'all might consider that some people - many people by the look of it - are slow learners; takes quite a bit of repetition to get them to eve...

PZ shares his homoerotic lust for terrorism. [IMG]http: ... imgur.com/lz7faP6.jpg[/IMG] Seems to be a lot of that going around these days - and on virtually all sides of every fence - ideological and otherwise - known to man, woman, and otherkin. Though Islam tends to take the cake in that race, so...

He goes through long stretches of re-tweeting the same thing again and again. Anyone seen Steersman lately? He seems busy on Twitter, spreading the gospel of pissing and nuking. True story, one of his Tweets ended up in my local school district's student-led presentation on Islamaphobia a couple of...

Brive I can only hope Faith Goldy loses her bid of mayor of Toronto and can run in Sydney and ultimately form it into a vast Chinese metropolis! :drool: https: ... //www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ASjaR3YQI :-) Apropos of which, maybe something to warm the cockles of Brive's heart (? ;-) ), and temper y...

Keating wrote: ↑ I got accosted by two druggie bums when I went into town today. When I refused them change, they said I wasn't welcome in their ethnostate.

LoL. Coincidence surely? Or maybe a sign of the times ... ;-)

Steers is rather obsessive on this topic, and I think he enjoys it. He's a one track lover... [BBvideo=560,315]https: ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO-ZGP68-3w[/BBvideo] And I think most would agree that's a pretty bad rap . In both cases ... ;) Though less a case of "obsessive" than an awareness tha...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kinsman-arrested-proud-boys-new-york-city-brawl-gavin-mcinnes-geoffrey-young/ https://nypost.com/2018/10/20/nancy-pelosi-cursed-out-by-protesters-in-florida/ I forget, are the Proud Boys libtards? :whistle: It does not matter who started it it. What is important wo...

<snip> Your disengenous and snotty attempts to justify your statement are getting deep into Steersman territory. You could own up to the fact that you spoke in error. You could attempt to post your own sources. But my guess is you'll go for insults and handwaving. LoL. Speaking of "disengenous and ...

So if men get castrated and Steersman is right about them no longer being men ... Not really a question of me being right but of what are the definitions on the books for the term, and whether they have any value or utility. Words aren't things in themselves, but only labels for other things, even ...

Hell, if Trump was serious about fighting islamic extremism instead of his moronic blanket bans that apply to ALL people from some countries he'd be holding the Saudis accountable. "Curiously" enough this doesn't happen. And his fans , including Ezra Levant, act like faithful lap dogs to his Saudi ...

MarcusAu wrote: ↑ Since when did people finding something tiresome become a valid reason to stop doing something?

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Now I understand why PZ hates dictionary atheists. LoL. Big surprise that people tend to get their knickers in a twist when confronted by the facts, particularly when they've spent a lifetime denying them: Quotes_Dennett_Illusion.jpg Memes_ComfortingLies_UnpleasantTruths.jpg Quotes_Moynihan_FactsOp...

Idea for a poll : Who is more obsessed with sperm ? a) Steersman b) Carrier LoL. Maybe Tigzy can update his rather tiresome signature now: "...and Steersman I figured it's only fair to say I stopped reading the moment I saw you were going to start ranting about ova [and sperm] again." - Jett Lagg [...

Steers, the point isn't what you think the words mean, it is what most people perceive them to mean. FFS, what people perceive is very frequently NOT what the truth of the matter is - "see spinning dancer" .... A popular movie is still a popular movie whether you think it is a piece of shit and no ...

From Webster's Definition of male (Entry 1 of 3) 1a : a male person : a man or a boy b : an individual of the sex that is typically capable of producing small, usually motile gametes (such as sperm or spermatozoa) which fertilize the eggs of a female Notice that the word "typically" is placed befor...

So Steers re. the Oxford def which is obviously incomplete, if there are only 2 sexes where do you put infertile people ? An adult human that can't produce sperm isn't a a male, therefore is a female? An adult that can't give birth to a baby must be a man? There is where you're going off the rails ...

From Webster's Definition of male (Entry 1 of 3) 1a : a male person : a man or a boy b : an individual of the sex that is typically capable of producing small, usually motile gametes (such as sperm or spermatozoa) which fertilize the eggs of a female Notice that the word "typically" is placed befor...

1 : a castrated man placed in charge of a harem or employed as a chamberlain in a palace 2 : a man or boy deprived of the testes or external genitals 3 : one that lacks virility or power Webster's dictionary. A castrated man is still a man. Well, I had my plums cracked after we had our 2nd kid - I ...

It seems you are proposing an objective measure for masculinity or 'maleness'. .... It seems you don't understand that words are - to a large extent - merely labels for objective - brute - facts; they're not things in themselves. And that you - and many others - are conflating the "things" that cor...

Saying something doesn't make it true. That applies to you Steers. Men have 2 legs and 2 arms too, but if they lose an arm are they no longer a man? Pray tell, what dictionary states having 2 legs is an essential part of being a man? Is it necessary that there be a racoon tail on the aerial of a ca...

On the other hand (so to speak) if you define a man as someone who "produces sperm" - most of the individuals that we currently put in this category would spend the majority of their time in a 'non-male' state. Yea, I get a lot of that, mostly from women - I assume - and the odd intersex person lik...

free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑

Definition 2 refers to definition 1 as a man. Therefore it says that a castrated male is a man.

Saying something doesn't make it true.

Would you think that 2+2=5 just because someone says it's so? If so then I think there's an opening for you in the Ministry of Truth ...

Steersman wrote; And I know logic isn't your strong suit so you might consider that IF male is defined - as it is - as "produces sperm" THEN a "castrato" or a eunuch - who clearly won't ever produce sperm (again) - can't very well qualify as "male" can he? But it says in the definition that a eunuc...

And I know logic isn't your strong suit so you might consider that IF male is defined - as it is - as "produces sperm" THEN a "castrato" or a eunuch - who clearly won't ever produce sperm (again) - can't very well qualify as "male" can he? Of course he can. Not IF we agree that "male" is, by defini...

Methinks that Bacon's aphorism - "Therefore shoddy and inept application of words lays siege to the intellect in wondrous ways" - has never been more apt and relevant. I'd like to know what the idiots think will happen if they get their way? If every UN member agrees to penalize citizens who won't ...

eunuch (plural eunuchs) A castrated human male. Such a man employed as harem guard or in certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese Empires) as court or state officials. (in translations of ancient texts) A man who is So a eunuch is a man after all by definition! :P Steerman (...

<snip> Did you see Peez's explanation for banning 3 so-called TERFs from his site? It's a wall of sulky incoherence. His "woke" grandstanding, with disavowals of principles he used to champion, is going to pitch him into a gibbering breakdown one day. http://archive.is/YIVx8 <snip> He has got to be...

Did you see Peez's explanation for banning 3 so-called TERFs from his site? It's a wall of sulky incoherence. His "woke" grandstanding, with disavowals of principles he used to champion, is going to pitch him into a gibbering breakdown one day. http://archive.is/YIVx8 I presume one of those was Old...

<snip> Glad I've convinced you of something, though you seem rather reluctant to consider that the root cause of Islam's "cultural baggage of illiberal values", and "culture of violence & misogyny" is the Quran itself - wonder why that might be ... You might reflect on the old joke about dealing wi...

<snip> Mansur_HoC_Islam_Immigration.jpg Don't see how that - particularly the underlined sections - is a helluva lot different from saying "piss on the Quran" . You really do not. I am convinced. .... Glad I've convinced you of something, though you seem rather reluctant to consider that the root c...

<snip> But to put them on a more solid footing, to call a spade a shovel, do you seriously think that the Quran is entirely the received word of Allah - the big man of the universe - Himself? Do you seriously think there's any more justification for thinking he's the ticket to the promised land - o...

@Steers, So what argument could anyone make, would convince you that telling people "to piss on the Quran" is unproductive? Is it even possible? :lol: :lol: :lol: But think it's less a question of an argument, and more one of evidence. And that would be some indication that Muslims were prepared to...

Not sure whereabouts in jolly Old this is, or when it was taken, but sure looks like the kettle is about to boil over: Can't happen soon enough. Sure don't see much if any evidence that the Muslim community is prepared to address its "fatal flaws", and the problems it is causing in the wider commun...

@Steers, So what argument could anyone make, would convince you that telling people "to piss on the Quran" is unproductive? Is it even possible? :lol: :lol: :lol: :-) Drum roll, please: "Mission Impossible"? :-) But think it's less a question of an argument, and more one of evidence. And that would...

The UK is a shitfestival that keeps on shitting itself. Seems there's a rather remarkably large number of western countries - few in Eastern Europe - who haven't had an effen clue about the odious nature of Islam, and that it is largely if not entirely "incompatible with democracy & human rights". ...

Brive1987 wrote: ↑:nin:

:mrgreen:

And nice to know that I haven't been put on ignore by some of the better people ... ;)

"Reverts"? She was born Muslim ... This "Revert" business is a typically islamic piece of arrogance. The 'holy' book says that all babies are born Muslim, so apparently we're supposed to butcher our language to make way for this. Thanks - learn something new every day, some times even several thing...

Looks like the UK Army is coming down hard on the young recruits who took selfies with Tommy Robinson at a truck stop. One has been discharged. The rest are under investigation and units are being briefed on not following TR on Facebook or other SM. Sadly, and I hate to say this, the recruits/soldi...

The Russia story mentioned she tried to speak Arabic and I remember taking note of that at the time. I have noted in the past that the majority of reverts in the West appear to be women, and in the UK quite a few are gingers. Anyway, To me it is more likely than not that Lohan is already a revert. ...

Andrerw V69 wrote: So, what does the denizens of ye olde Slymepit think? Should we take him back or not? Well he did say he wouldn't cause trouble if he was allowed to return... Doubt you believe that, at least that's what your ellipsis suggests. Seems a remarkably bad bet: France: Deradicalization...

@Steers, No I am not ignoring you. When I finish girding my loins I will respond. Right now I am formulating my rules ... not going to try and "win" an argument for example. Just present the facts etc. Thanks for the heads-up. And certainly agree that simply trying to "win" an argument, particularl...

We did corroborate with the Russians but it was legal. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/trump-campaign-defends-wikileaks-use-hacked-dnc-emails/572587/ LoL. Expect you meant "collaborate". And that there's a difference between that and the "right to disclose information—even stol...

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