If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

... obvs forget a lot of shit. I canâ€™t understand at all why that would be. I mean there were only â€œ251,805,821 words posted today on WordPress.comâ€ ... And that is probably just one of literally dozens if not hundreds of blog hosting platforms ... Itâ€™s a wonder we donâ€™t all have melt-dow...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:17 pm ..... But if you have a link to that thread you are referring to or other related evidence justifying your contention then I would appreciate the information and would certainly take a look at it. Okay, I'm a cunt. As soon as I responded with that, I thought, "fuck, sacha (...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:50 pm Thatâ€™s all fine and dandy. But if you want to crucify some guy, regardless of whether he was guilty or not which Iâ€™ll concede is an open question... actually he was proven innocent, there was a long discussion right here on the thread, are you sure you do not want to go...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:13 pm You would probably be amazed at the tenacity, if not rudeness, of some of the Pharyngulites â€“ some of whom have flounced out of there due to the â€œnew rulesâ€ â€“ over at Camels with Hammers over their desire to be able to use various epithets while anathematizing other...

Steersman, you're going to have to make more explicit how you made the logical leap between locust swarming and Amy Roth. *confused* Group-think , basically. Not that Amy herself was a locust or that Skepchicks is the swarm, only that there are analogous processes that are taking place in any group...

I suspect some of it has to do with guilt too. See how badly she treated Sharon Hill before TAM? So then when someone at TAM shows up with parody ceramics parroting the line she threw at Sharon: "you should be embarassed" ...she has to deflect her feelings of guilt by accusing everyone else of hara...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:03 pm I kind of think it quite crucial to be clear on which groups or segments of the class â€œwomenâ€ you are referring to. That SOME women are overly emotional you have already conceded, in effect, with your â€œwailywailers like Amyâ€. That's also from steersman but thinking ...

A recent post from Ophelia : Ok this is a good one. From a comment on Jen's post on blunderfoot. â€œFreethoughtâ€ means you use reason and logic to come to a conclusion, and not believing everything anyone says â€” even a close friend â€” at face value. Hahahahahahahahaha yes right that's what free...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:36 pm Hah, I definitely disagree that women are more emotional than men. I don't think the wailywailers like Amy are even SLIGHTLY representative of the average woman. /ANECDOTE I kind of think it quite crucial to be clear on which groups or segments of the class â€œwomenâ€ you ...

Iâ€™m kind of looking forward to the day when topless â€“ and bottomless â€“ figure skating hits the big time; might be a little chilly for the performers but it might produce some compensatory warmth in the stands .... But what about when a woman skater does the splits - and sticks to the ice? Sti...

.... Instead of reading through the entire thread, you could sit back and take the time to learn about Nectar and I from our responses, instead of jumping to conclusions about the type of women we are. Donâ€™t see that I was doing any â€œjumping to conclusionsâ€; I very carefully said â€œwhich you...

.... MOST women are like that. YES, this is why we call ourselves Gender Traitors. I AGREE! Fuck, after over a year, I have to explain that? I also agree that MOST women are overly emotional. My "nice try" was in regards to the fact that he said he "played" me (and assumed I reacted hysterically). ...

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
tachikoma wrote:Sorry, Phil Giordana.

I always read it as "gordiana" in my head for some reason.
Oh, cut the knot now, will you?!?

No offence taken, and it was just my own opinion. Anybody is free to talk about whatever they want. I'm just a bystander.

The Gordian Knot? .... :-)

Translation: don't get angry or it will magically disprove what you say blah blah emotional intelligence blah blah blah blah privilege blah blah patriarchy blah blah flatter CEO exec yum! how can you resist women managers? blah blah If the point of the discussion is that some women tend to lapse in...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:53 pm Seems to me that youâ€™re missing the point of his anecdote. Which looked like a very clear case in point wrapped up in some self-deprecating humour. Although whether or to what degree it is justified to generalize from that particular to the general is, of course, moot. ....

Translation: don't get angry or it will magically disprove what you say blah blah emotional intelligence blah blah blah blah privilege blah blah patriarchy blah blah flatter CEO exec yum! how can you resist women managers? blah blah If the point of the discussion is that some women tend to lapse in...

Translation: don't get angry or it will magically disprove what you say blah blah emotional intelligence blah blah blah blah privilege blah blah patriarchy blah blah flatter CEO exec yum! how can you resist women managers? blah blah If the point of the discussion is that some women tend to lapse in...

Iâ€™m kind of looking forward to the day when topless â€“ and bottomless â€“ figure skating hits the big time; might be a little chilly for the performers but it might produce some compensatory warmth in the stands .... But what about when a woman skater does the splits - and sticks to the ice? :-)...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:02 am Well, Lousy Canuck has just broken all internet ethics on doxxing. He's published the private emails and IPs of many people here, as well as a certain unnamed weirdo (DB) who used to post here. I believe that may be illegal. Do they use wordpress software for their blog? Di...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:53 am Off (the current) topic, but since there are some other equestrians here .... Stephen Colbert has political reasons for mocking dressage, and his segments on Olympic dressage are very funny (and I say this as a fan of the sport, as participant and spectator), but IMO there...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:29 pm Holy shit, Jason Thibizebedee is a slimy little turd! I've just been looking at the blogpost where he revealed the email & IP addys of those commentators he had in moderation - http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2012/03/11/the-twenty-comments-in-my-moderation-queue/ - ...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:46 pm Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:40 pm Wait - I'm confused. I've really never heard of this Natalie Reed until a short time ago, but in that "disgusting" blog post, she says she is a transsexual woman. Does that mean that she started off as one of those brain-damaged females, or that she...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:06 pm Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:01 pm Does Tf00t say anywhere where he got the emails from? Is it possible that they put him on the list when he joined FTB and just failed to take him off again? Or that someone at FTB is forwarding him this stuff? No disrespect to Thunderf00t but he rea...

Horace: If you believe what they write about half of the women who regularly post on Pharyngula were raped, several by different men at different times. I always wrote this off as something that they are saying for dramatic effect, but I am not an expert on the subject. I'm no expert either, and th...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:01 pm Does Tf00t say anywhere where he got the emails from? Is it possible that they put him on the list when he joined FTB and just failed to take him off again? Or that someone at FTB is forwarding him this stuff? No disrespect to Thunderf00t but he really doesn't seem like a h...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:02 pm Re-reading Natalie Reed's blog, it strikes me that she felt threatened by Tf00t's behavior - but that Tf00t did not actually threaten her. Thunderf00t saw the tweet, and responded with accusations that I was a liar... This led to something really creepy and scary when Thund...

While I am certainly no fan of PZ and his hypocritical commenting policy, it seems, at least according to a post over there, that TFâ€™s personal information has been common knowledge for some time: 10 August 2012 at 10:15 am rogi â€” do you not fucking listen to people? Thunderf00tâ€™s real name h...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:40 pm Laden seemed to have been addressed, too, by Natalie: It even eventually became to seem unsurprising amongst my own immediate colleagues (or former colleagues)â€¦ â€œmen are testosterone-damaged women... Wait - I'm confused. I've really never heard of this Natalie Reed unti...

While I am certainly no fan of PZ and his hypocritical commenting policy, it seems, at least according to a post over there, that TFâ€™s personal information has been common knowledge for some time: 10 August 2012 at 10:15 am rogi â€” do you not fucking listen to people? Thunderf00tâ€™s real name h...

Anybody notice that PZ makes sure in his post that TF's real name is out there again? The name that is only out there due to Dawahfilm's doc dropping? And PZ releases it again to his vile horde. He couldn't have had a reason to do that, would he? A reason? Yes. He's a cowardly doc dropper himself. ...

For instance, that there are something like 200,000 cases of rape or sexual assault in America every year. Is that all? The USA has a bunch of slackers if you ask me. Here in Kanukistan: http://www.bccf.ca/professionals/blog/2012-07/it%E2%80%99s-girl-new-psa-focuses-violence-against-women The terri...

Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:24 pm My point is we should be trying to get beyond gendered conflict and be more concerned with human rights. Agreed. Part of the reason for my support for equity feminism as opposed to gender feminism. But that doesnâ€™t mean that there isnâ€™t still a need for the former. And...

Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:39 pm So, what I'm saying is that most "true believers" experience God via this same process. So while the feeling is real, the object may or may not be (taking the agnostic perspective). Then I think weâ€™re saying the same thing. Essentially the same process, by the look of it,...

Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:52 pm While it certainly seems to me that more than a few MRAs are decidedly off-the-wall, I would say that your rather categorical â€œMRAs are just inverted RadFemsâ€ is a little wide of the mark: in spite of the extremists I think that some of them do have some very good point...

The legal definition of harassment in Nevada: NRS 200.571 Harassment: Definition; penalties. 1. A person is guilty of harassment if: (a) Without lawful authority, the person knowingly threatens: (4) To do any act which is intended to substantially harm the person threatened or any other person with...

I get pissed whenever I hear Bill Maher claim that a relationship with God is BS because a believer's brain must get some signal his doesn't. Well, that's exactly what it is (sorry Bill). Not quite sure what youâ€™re getting at there. Surely youâ€™re not saying that whatever signal a â€œbelieverâ€™...

sacha wrote: I did not mean to spell your name incorrectly, Steersman. My apologies.

No problemo. Although I appreciate the follow-up and that at least you recognize that some things definitely are sacrosanct .... ;-)

a) I see him [Futrelle] as a lightweight and I am under the impression is that he is not respected even by ordinary Feminists. Interesting! I was under the impression that online feminists (of the Marcotte, feministe variety) see him as doing a good job exposing the misogyny of the MRM. What makes ...

Have to say, I feel bad for Natalie Reed here - http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/08/09/disgusting/ - the guy who did that to her is a pig. Vile, nasty pig. Yea, definitely a bunch of dickheads and hateful bigots in the MRM, although the â€œdiseaseâ€ is no respecter of sex or philosophy...

Can we cut the crap with all that (swt) business? It pisses the shit out of me (for reasons). This is not a Muslim forum, and I don't give a shit about Allah or his pals. Amen to that â€“ tends to call for a rejoinder of â€œMuhammad (piss on his name)â€ in response. The former really tends to prom...

Unfortunately, you did violate a fundamental and implicit rule although you may not have been aware of it ... True. Although as with Pharyngulite â€œdogmaâ€, I donâ€™t see that as justification for pulling any punches. â€œI only regret that I have but one [avatar] to lose for my [skepticism]." And...

Makes a lot of sense to me, although many seem to think otherwise. For instance, there was a video posted here recently by Scented Nectar during which [at about 1:18 into it] the author pointed to some â€œblatant anti-male commentsâ€ and illustrated that with some â€œacademicâ€ saying something t...

Have to say, I admire your patience in dealing with Sally Strange, Steersman. As they say, tough job, but someone has to do it â€“ or at least do their part. :-) Blimmin heck, she's hard work - like trying to reason a doorstep JW out of creationism. It is indeed. Although I have to give her at leas...

Why are you assuming that the guy who sneered at Natalie was an MRA? â€¦ and even Baboons don't deserve to get nasty, hurtful comments while walking down the street. Quite agree and nice to hear you say that. Although I wonder about your qualification of â€œwhile walking down the streetâ€. Does th...

Forgot to mention, this is the definition I have for femtheism. It explains what you asked about skepticism. Thanks. But quite a reasonable argument, I think. Reminds me of various creationists who argue that people like Francis Collins can be both credible scientists and Biblical literalists. Whic...

Yea, definitely a bunch of dickheads and hateful bigots in the MRM, although the â€œdiseaseâ€ is no respecter of sex or philosophy or â€œismâ€ of one sort or another â€¦. Getting more and more difficult to tell the white hats from the black hats, the good guys from the bad â€¦. Why are you assumi...

A more academic/scientific approach is to view gender roles as influenced by biology, specifically sex hormones. Men and women are merely different, not better/worse. Makes a lot of sense to me, although many seem to think otherwise. For instance, there was a video posted here recently by Scented N...

Have to say, I feel bad for Natalie Reed here - http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed/2012/08/09/disgusting/ - the guy who did that to her is a pig. Vile, nasty pig. Yea, definitely a bunch of dickheads and hateful bigots in the MRM, although the â€œdiseaseâ€ is no respecter of sex or philosophy...

New post by Massimo Pigliucci ... Massimo lists some 'bizarre beliefs' in the atheist/skeptic community including You may have seen this post by Massimo several years ago which probably explains why PZ Myers was not [that I saw] on his list of â€œpositive modelsâ€: PZ Myers is a witless wanker who...

Doing some 'cyberstalking,' one can find that 'Surly Amy' follows 'Official SpokesGay' (the person who told me to fuck off and die and got no blowback whatsoever from FTB bloggers to my knowledge). How could she support such hate? I assume you mean Josh, Official SpokesGay ? In passing it seems he ...

Steerboy - are those Muslims you conversed with reasonable people, or were they religious. Midshipman Toothless Fuck, not all religious people are totally unreasonable, although Iâ€™ll concede that the percentage of reasonable is substantially less than with the non-religious. And even some of the ...

LMAO! :-) I have made comments on all of those places and the only one I have been banned at was Pharyngula (twice). This includes Islamic Awakening (to be fair I have not said much there) though I post there under my Arabic name - Abdullah ibn Andraos al-Sulh. Well then youâ€™re one-up on me as ph...

I would caution you against using the word "privilege" to describe this though. After being on the receiving end of the way FTBers and their ilk throw around the word, most people here might think you're calling us "privileged white men". I brought up the idea or term because I think it is a decide...

Many MRAs have really been fucked to the ground by the feminist law. If you care to move on from your simplistic notion of 'sure.. I support feminism which is about women's rights and MRAs which is about men's rights', and learn about the actual issues.. you will know why men are angry. More than a...

No, it means a place that is emotionally and ideologically safe, like a church. A place where Surly Amy will never cry, because no different or dissenting opinion will be permitted. The objective, in other words, is to turn all atheist/skeptic events into The Church of the True Believer. I like it ...

So, we're back to July 2011? *sigh* What was that? Elevator Gate? Just because you may have followed all of the intricacies of the event I donâ€™t think that should lead you to conclude, or expect, that everyone else has. Words are just words, no more, no less! I can be a thousand times more insult...

MRA, Rape Apologist, Misogynist, Rape Supporter, Woman Hater, Gender Traitor - words used willy nilly without evidence in an effort to stifle conversation or debate, or what-have-you. Normally done strictly as an ad hominem. Aye, thereâ€™s the rub: you see â€œMRAâ€, â€œMisogynistâ€ and the like a...

... I'm personally against banning words and I think James Onen has a sweet post on Rational Ugandan about use of swearwords/whether or not they are good/what's to be done... etc... Generally I agree with you on the banning â€“ I definitely tend to think that that only tends to make the words more ...

Steersman, you, like the baboons, are completely and utterly missing the point. Pretty much nobody here gives a flying fuck at a rolling donut what words the baboons use or what names they call people. Really? So why are so many people here, apparently, up in arms over the porcupine jokes? Because ...

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
â€œcome hitherâ€
I almost called Godwin, but then I put my glasses on.

Ah, maybe you had this in mind: Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp with Adolf and Eva at Berchtesgaden. :-)

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