If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

If a trans PZ was kicked hard enough in the welly-top, I wonder if his Pharygulites would consider him a de-sexed-icon?

You know...trans...Decepticon. De-sexed...um...

...yeah, I'll get me coat.

@Badger3k

Ah, she mentions it here, and it was posted in 2007: http://skepchick.org/2007/05/waste-time ... r-science/ - so she's definitely not inventing the condition after the event. Even so, I'm pretty sure the guy would still be identifiable by his clothing if he was indeed in that photo.

[youtube]5gaQ2xwTWZU[/youtube] Interesting vid - seems I'm not the only one who's thought that 'the patriarchy' is too often deployed too widely as an explanation - to the extent that it doesn't really explain anything. More often than not, I've seen parallels with those deploying the patriarcy 'ar...

The census tries to find out why women "are not active within the secular movement". It highlights and discussed several factors other than harassment: insufficient time being the top factor. This is actually pretty huge. "I don't have time for that" is a nice way of saying you are not interested. ...

Surly Johnny and Surly Amy, 15 years on:

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justinvacula wrote:Surly Amy in an interesting short podcast:

http://bit.ly/NAiA8w

Amy's voice makes me think of Susie out of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Poor Surly Johnny. I feel even sorrier for him now. If I were him, I'd be popping Prozac like it was coming out of a rapid-fire Pez dispenser.

http://skepchick.org/2012/08/speaking-out-against-hate-directed-at-women-michael-payton/ Which supports the case that these people 'speaking out' are not necessarily speaking out in support of FTB. Read the comments - they're trying to square the idea of someone opposing FTB while also being agains...

and in case anyone is curious, this is Surly Johnny: http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlyramics/sets/72157613533042970/ That's not a boyfriend, that's a small pet - Amy probably carries him in her handbag, like one of those shivering, scared-looking chihuahuas. I think their relationship goes somethi...

:lol: I see there's a 'Tyrannical' in the dungeon - wonder if this is the same Tyrannical who used to be extremely right-wing on RatSkep with a BNP image as his avi? 'Racist and proud of it' would pretty much sum him up.

Tigzy and AndrewV69 : Congratulations ! You have been awarded with a cell in the new Dungeon: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/dungeon/#officers I am currently having intense paroxysms of indifference at this. I wonder what criteria PeeZee deployed to choose his monitors. Those that toe the p...

Ninja'd. I was about to say, Tigzy did you forget your own post ? The cleverness of that original tweet has imprinted itself on my subconcious, I think. I'm musing on some variations now... 'TAM has no self-immolation policy. Here's looking forward to @SallyStrange protesting with some substance as...

Nah, I've still seen the 'concern troll' thing deployed by Pharygulites. As for the 'it's not a threat if it involves doing something to yourself' - one day, if I'm really bored, I think I might troll various baboons on Twitter with statements along the lines of 'I think you ought to go and [insert...

Eh, I'll be optimistic and consider it an improvement. So commentators can now express their dislike of the phrase without being labeled a concern troll, eh? Nah, I've still seen the 'concern troll' thing deployed by Pharygulites. As for the 'it's not a threat if it involves doing something to your...

Not too surprisingly, a few people started defending FTB, though not for too long before Jerry stepped in to stop the bickering. I took the "Your concern is noted" comments to be lampooning (the second was by way of reference to the Richard Dawkins - Beware the Believers skit). It seems to me that ...

Wang, you are a dick.

More nonsense from Surly "Don't Call Me Shirley" Roth: http://elevatorgate.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/20120805-155828.jpg?w=590 Yes, the Baboons have all this evidence of death threats, rape threats, the elixir of life, etc. but the "always name names" brigade seem a little shy when it comes to ac...

http://twitter.com/rebeccawatson/status/231737722677653504 Montreal Sex con is in a beautiful Hilton with beautiful rooms. All great except my shower head screams like a baby bunny being mauled. It's really tough being Rebecca Watson, innit? Come on, now. Larking around at conventions, drinking unt...

Well, I find horses friggin scary. A very wise attitude. Those equestrians who become blasÃ© about the sheer power of their beasts usually wind up in either hospital or a morgue. One MUST be wary of such a non-robotic beast. They can read you fucking mind, that's for sure! I think one of the most d...

I think Matt Smith is awesome. Like Willy Wonka in outer space. Just how the Doctor should be, in my book.

Oh, and in regard to polo-mints, and pony-horses, and thoroughbread loaves, and all that â€” who can compare we few, we band of humans, we slymepitters, to those valiant city-cellar-dwellers of the Pharyngula-ilk, those ardent Philosophers who inform we mortals as to how to think, and what to think...

Ha-Haaa - Aron Ra's wife has just written something for hubby's blog - http://freethoughtblogs.com/aronra/2012/08/03/dont-read-this-if-youre-a-misogynist-mra-feminazi-femistazi-ftbully-rape-apologist/ - and there are some beauties of baboon idiocy in the comments below. For example, the first respos...

Whoo! Dr Who series 7 trailer up - cybernetic cowboys, dinosaurs on a spaceship, and daleks - fhasands of 'em. And not the crappy New Paradigm Apple iDaleks, either!

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With regard to mabus: My opinion is if he wants to post here thats his business, if it's breaching legal conditions placed on him, that's his business. Sounds fair enough. If Mabus is violating the terms of his release, then he knows it and he can deal with the consequences. We aren't his nannies. ...

It could be some imbecile from FTB, wearing the most obnoxious persona he could think of in order to get banned, thus hoping to disprove the local commitment to free speech. Or he is just your regular imbecile with far more time than brains. Or if it is a Mabus impersonator, they could be doing it ...

Wait what. Ophelia deleted your post just because of different literary preferences ? Did she already know you were a slimepitter and looking for any reason, however unrelated, to delete your posts? Well, Ophelia said she doesn't look at the Slymepit - which I don't believe for a second - but even ...

He's been pestering AXP too. Bad move on his part, considering Martin's prediliction for dobbing people in to the authorities wherever possible: http://freethoughtblogs.com/axp/2012/07 ... -sentence/

sacha wrote:xjustos... Hello Mabus!

Ah, I heard he was on the loose again. Guess it was just a matter of time before he came here.

Interestingly, the 'puritan-progressive' types who tend to latch on to the left wing - such as Ophelia, for instance - were busy in Orwell's time, too. So the FC5(6) sort are nothing new. In fact, they're quite quaint*, really. Orwell contemptuously referred to such people as 'bearded fruit-juice dr...

Shit - yes - it was 'Hooker' wasn't it. *thwarted fanboi shameface*

Well...Ophelia got me all steamed up about it, hence the mistake. Yes. That's what happened.

Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as : not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same . Some people just shouldnâ€™t write fiction; itâ€™s odd when they donâ€™t realize it. My emphasis. I do not know what to say. well I couldn...

Tigzy said: " Not a very good movelist, I always thgought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same . Well that's a load of fuckin old bolloocks rith there. Will it last? If nothing else, then this one opinion serves to show what an utter moron Ophelia Benson is. Sure, she doesn't have to like...

I like steampunk loads, mostly because I'm a big fanboi of retro-futurism in general. Have you heard of Iron Sky ? As a film it has its flaws (and it's just for fun anyways) but the secret Nazi moon base has some very "atmospheric" diesel-punk scenery... </end obligatory Finn-promotion> Heard of it...

Ophelia goes for the gold in referring to Gore Vidal and Orwell as : not a very good novelist, I always thought, but a brilliant essayist. Orwell was the same . Some people just shouldnâ€™t write fiction; itâ€™s odd when they donâ€™t realize it. My emphasis. I do not know what to say. well I couldn...

@JohnGreg

And yet, for all their protests, the very people demanding the right to use the word 'asshole' are quite clearly very capable of being assholes without actually having to use such coarse language to demonstrate it.

Should have included this one - perfect for Greg Laden: http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shit/turd.gif

Nice to see a PZ one has been provided: http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/images/sm ... kybaby.gif

This came over my feed, and since I was curious to see what it was about, I went and read it. It has to do with Tim Farley and a speech he made at TAM, and the twitter reactions to it. his post Most were positive, until he discussed something that offended he who shall not be names, and used a name...

PZ, looking like he's desperately trawling for trolls again: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/08/01/hey-thunderf00t-fans-stuff-it/#comments Ever since he gave up moderating and freed up the dungeon, the overwhelming message to Pharyngula from all the assorted creationists, Christers, MUAs...

^They should have said, 'We interrupt this episode of Laden's Way to bring you a word from our sponsor...'

Anyways, those 'Laden's Way' episodes are freakin hilarious!

Commenting in codes! DO NOT WANT! http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/28/tzt-16/comment-page-2/#comment-417744 What the fuck is wrong with you people? Indeed, what the fuck is wrong with him and his people? Are folks sure about the age range over there? I mean 'secret' messages! Have the...

Tigzy, I think that's exactly what PZ is trying for. He WANTS Franc and the rest of us to go over there, which makes it the last thing any of us should do. I wonder how his civil war plans will go when the invited distraction-enemy doen't arrive. I've suspected the same myself. I mean, taking a bre...

Is there *ONE* issue PZ Myers isnt a complete hypocrite on? *ONE* issue he wont change his stance on, on a dime, just to make a personal/political jab? He posted this cartoon as a jab to Franc: http://sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2012-07-31.gif Note the 'PORN HARMS' sign. I thought PZ LURVS PR0N and...

Peezee: Passion and anger are two of our weapons. Iâ€™m not going to let the ninny nannies disarm us. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/31/i-agree-with-larry/ Consider my irony meter well and truly exploded. Dare you to say 'twat' in front of your commentariat, Peezee, you funny little ...

LOL - Myers lets one slip of the Freudian kind: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ing-a-dog/

So it's not about reason then; the war against sexism just boils down to getting a satisfying Pavlovian response.

Well he should know. :lol:

Seems most of the Sapphire & Steel episodes are on Youtube too :-) have already embarked on a marathon rerun...

There is something quite exceptionally satisfying with this present Pharygula drama, in that the upset wasn't initiated by a slymepitter, a troll, someone who simply disagreed with them, and MRA, a PUA, a creationist, a flood geologist - none of those things - but by someone who took the baboonery t...

I like steampunk loads, mostly because I'm a big fanboi of retro-futurism in general. Hence, I can be counted as another fan of Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow. I also watched Brazil again the other day - still one of the best visions of a technologically advanced 1940s. The use of the ubiqui...

CommanderTuvok's very funny post which was deleted by Ophelia on this thread: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... -to-avoid/

http://i.imgur.com/fhAHF.png

CommanderTuvok - your post has gone. Touched a nerve there, I think. I got a screencap, just in case you didn't get one.

My guessed Shermer too since he is known to sleep with convention attendees-- including Rebecca. I think she expected something in return. Is there any evidence that Shermer and Watson *trigger warning* made the beast with two backs? It was TAM 5 or 6 I think... and it was general knowledge to atte...

^ :lol: screencapped it, just in case.

John Greg wrote:And of course that raging lunatic sociopathic misandrist freak skeptifem has to escalate the whole thing. Way-to-go, skeptifem. Way-to-fucking-go.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... ent-236207

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

/popcorn

Ah, I see. More fine examples of Ophelia's profound respect for and understanding of proof, intellectual integrity, and the lack of validity in anecdotal claims: Tigzy says: Ophelia, who is the â€˜top dudeâ€™ you are referring to here? Ophelia says: tigzy â€“ what a ridiculous question. I'd cry if ...

Oh well, got my reply from her ladyship herself Who did you ask what to? Remember, links are your friend. Ophelia, casting aspersions with very little in the way of facts to back them up. I asked her who she was talking about, but my question was apparently too ridiculous for her to answer: http://...

Guest wrote: My guessed Shermer too since he is known to sleep with convention attendees-- including Rebecca. I think she expected something in return.

Is there any evidence that Shermer and Watson *trigger warning* made the beast with two backs?

Oh well, got my reply from her ladyship herself:

tigzy â€“ what a ridiculous question.

To be honest, I didn't have the highest of hopes for a straight reply, but there you go.

@ Tigzy and Badger3k: I agree that they should be careful with accusing specific people of harassing behavior, even in the comments - the one that mentions Shermer's name indicates that there's no direct accusation, other than of promiscuity. It just seems disingenuous to imply that choice speaking...

I suspect Ophelia is just being coy again, but has she (or any of the others) ever named a specific name? Who is the "top dude, known to harass," in skepticism/atheism* circles? Oh gosh, that sounds super-familiar too. Isnâ€™t that amazing? In fact it sounds kind ofâ€¦identical. Top dude, known to ...

@badger3k It's interesting that this MIM character advances the argument that PZs jokes were not meant in such an offensive context, and that other people were effectively 'reading them the wrong way'. And yet, what's the idiom that Pharyngulites frequently trot out? 'Intent isn't magic.' Except whe...

Oh. Myers has just served up more rape on his 'safe place for rape victims' in his latest post. To be fair, he at least attempts a trigger warning, albeit a half-hearted one: Also, itâ€™s about a dreadful rape case, and it does discuss some of the horrific consequences, so some of you may want to av...

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