If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Auntie Sacha and Auntie SN have kindly agreed to jointly admin while I'm away ... Oh, and Abbie has been added too. If this aint the motherfucking matriarchy, I dont what is. Lemme go read up what happens when wimmin are in charge.. Hmm..Indira Gandhi, WAR. Thatcher. WAR. O God.. we doomed. All our...

I was (once again) making the argument that there had to be more to the atheism movement than just the dictionary definition, and I first made the case that weâ€™ve comfortably accommodated much bigger, loftier goals than not believing in gods, by pointing out that we readily accept science as part...

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When I now see these toilet slaves, I am reminded of GWW's forewarning: And as long as there are men--and yes, I mean men, not just people, but men--in your community who are prepared to preen as heroes by validating and reinforcing the irrational beliefs and closet monster fears of a few hysterica...

"Privileged"? Really? I get up almost every day at the crack of dawn to go to an unrewarding job that is slowly ruining my physical health, just so I can barely keep the bills paid and a roof over my head... Fuck you cunts. Fuck you. Dude.. you just need to meet the right girl and all be fine. you ...

There are few spectacles in this world quite as pathetic as a "male feminist". Seriously, how desperate are they to get laid? From AVFM Recent controversy over comedian Daniel Toshâ€™s handling of an indignant heckler has sparked some lively debate in the comedy world. At the forefront has been oxy...

Andrew, Thanks for that link to Hoff Sommers interview.. nice stuff like the below lulz London: Gender feminism? Sommers: That's right. These are women who believe in what they call the sex-gender system, that women are trapped in a sex-gender system, that gender roles are arbitrarily defined, and t...

GWW has a nice post on what underlies the goings on in our community . I'm sorry, thunderf00t, but your community is in huge trouble. There will be no retreats, tactical or otherwise, not at the American Atheist convention or anywhere else. Only an ever-widening circle of conversion into this new re...

yikes.. I didnt know an FfTBer had taken on a PUA (Roosh) as well.
I found this hilarious, but I am not gonna embed it the usual way. Watch only if you have no sacred cows.
There Are No Ugly Girls In America

Greg Hampikian is a professor of biology and criminal justice at Boise State University and the director of the Idaho Innocence Project. Men, Who Needs Them? If a woman wants to have a baby without a man, she just needs to secure sperm (fresh or frozen) from a donor (living or dead). The only techno...

That "diplomacy" thing sure is working out well for you Steersman :lol: I guess one should be elated that the enlightened feminists accept that "one or two" MRA points are valid. Steersman 07.27.2012 LOG IN TO REPLY Great series and Iâ€™m glad to see more than a few individuals, particularly men, st...

This is similar to the generalising of members of rationalia , of whom I am one, over the infamous Pappa rape joke. It is very easy to stigmatise an entire forum for the actions of some but it is also wrong. I am responsible for my words and my words only. I have zero problem with anyone taking bot...

Hah.. Kazez's latest short post is fun. She's bitching about Blu and Justicar. dem bad boys are mad dogs. So when she's at the receiving end, she's happy to let loose some invective. So much for civil pee-pul. What fun ... ... I've not been having, since I posted my blog about the backlash against f...

Woohoo! Look here! It's... The SlimePit Archive!!! If I could, I would take your hand, kiss it, and say 'Dear Lady'. But there's only one man who could do it in way that makes ladies swoon. There were 700 people in that audience, and you could have heard a pin drop. what a voice, what a mind, what ...

Kazez is definetely smart(er than the baboons), but is bigoted in many ways. She has her sacred cows and so I cant take her seriously in these matters. Hey Kazez.. listen to a woman..maybe something will get through your thick head, and you will start to care about human dignity in the real sense. Y...

Justin and RebeccaB ....I'd like to toss a few clams at ScepticBlogs but I can't seem to find a donate button at either of your blogs... Is there a way to donate.? There's a button on the home page, to the right. Looks like they sure could use some donations. I wish these guys the best. After wasti...

ERV wrote: 3-- ...doesnt he have the BEST radio voice?
5-- Hes really cute and his gf is freaking hot (and fully supports him).

Seth is quite likeable except for the above. *burning with envy*
wow.. he's got 94,300 subscribers 14,617,859 video views

Scented, I knew your position on this a while ago.. I was nodding when you posted it on the slimepit (or your blog) long ago. In the case of unplanned pregnancies, its pretty much what many MRAs call financial abortion, and what GWW calls 'Legal Parental Surrender'. We have long long ways to go befo...

The one I frequently can't resist jumping in on, is the claim that the behaviours of males wanting many different mates, and females wanting monogamous mates in return for some sort of care (food, protection, etc). It doesn't seem that enough time has gone by in human history, for those behaviours ...

Over at Kazez's blog, some s are talking about how they are the good people. Man do I love this stuff. Where would I be if Ardent Skeptic hadnt "gotten the folks at ERV to acknowledge stuff". Ardent Skeptic said... IMO, the designation of groups is a large part of the problem. Every issue should be ...

I just want to say that I really appreciate Justin.. somebody with a real atheist/freethought org out there.. somebody doing real activism.. sticking his neck out like this and taking all the heat. The funny thing is.. even the slightest slip-up on "our" side is being chastised even by people on our...

Gollum has always been a Baboon apologist pussy worshipper. Corrected it for you sacha. One wonders how baboons (staunch opponents of DBAD) and Gollum can be bedfellows. I have lived to see the strangest of things happen. Scented.. you are like that Queen/Mother in the later alien movie..laying her...

James, you really need to recognize that women are human beings too. If you do that, you are a feminist too. In the past, the humanity of women was not recognized. You remember all those pictures of how slaves..black slaves in recent memory and white slaves in the arab times in distant memory etc et...

The second group is another matter. These are people who are seized by a desire to attack women when there's the least hint of a question about male behavior at blogs and conferences. The notion of codes being imposed on their behavior sends them into a rage. These are the people whose existence yo...

For all the flack MRA's get, I find their direct, non-PC, I-don't-give-a-shit approach to critiquing feminism to be refreshing. They're like the Slyme Pit but with very few, if any, diplomats ;) . You mean their I-dont-give-a-shit approach to critiquing feminism, and white-knightism and traditional...

Luv your recent post about the nature of slimepit to steersman Sacha. For me, slimepit and greylining were the sole watering holes when I really had nowhere else to go last year. The leaders on "our side" clammed up, and even with all the exposes of late, I doubt that its gonna get a lot better. The...

So what if the automated system told me the post could be restored? The filing of a DMCA in the first place TOOK THE POST DOWN and results in censorship. It's complete nonsense. 'Surly Amy,' if she filed it, could have -- outside of DMCA or automated system -- sent me a message asking to take the i...

Anthropological evidence suggests that most prehistoric hunter-gatherer societies were egalitarian, and that patriarchy did not develop until many years after. I've heard this asserted before and have looked for scientific backup for this claim. With the exception of a few websites that just assert...

She doesnt seem to be bagging on the olympics. She's quoting someone on the receiving end of 'emotional correctness patrol'.. and she's complaining that she's also a victim. (whats new, right?) http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/08/olympic-fervour/ The funny thing about that is th...

Damn.. Here's some real sexism against women. The baboons can gain some credibility if they focus on these at least. An off-duty firewoman was left feeling like a "potential pedophile" after a national airline stopped her sitting next to two small boys on a flight - because women are barred from sit...

Lsuoma wrote:Can't be bothered to look - can someone provide a link to the Sancta Ophelia posting?

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Depends on what you mean by benefits I guess. While feminism has provided escape valves for women who can and have made significant contributions to society as a whole, what has it done for the rest except condemn the majority of women to unhappy and unfulfilled lives? Feminism may have freed women...

Even in Islam, believe it or not, despite all else what is written, and what you may have heard, women frequently do get what is crudely termed a "pussy pass". The exceptions tend to make the news in Western society. ... Which is not to say that I do not enjoy devotional music. For example, when I ...

Then why say "Way back" when he was talking about 11 years? Seems more likely he was referring to the 20th century. No doubt he'll clarify. I myself sometimes forget we are no longer in the 20th century. I did mean this century.. "way back" is just my bad/subconscious phrasing. for some reason, I w...

Imagine if a particular task was done by 80% women and 20% men (I'm not saying that this was the ratio in the Mars mission). Would it be right to say "what a remarkable achievement by WOMEN!"? I don't think so. There's no reason to exclude anyone at all. What about hair colour? "This is a remarkabl...

http://freethoughtblogs.com/blaghag/2012/08/forget-educated-women-being-unsexy-they-probably-dont-exist-at-all/ I agree 100% with Jen on this. I don't read A Voice for Men, but looking at that the article in question's comment thread it does look like there's a lot of misogyny there (based on that ...

Some of those men have come out of a religious background and will likely have inherited their sense of male privilege from their churches and families, but that is not an excuse. They should keep growing, keep learning. As allegedly intelligent thinkers, those men now have a responsibility to appl...

http://skepchick.org/2012/08/speaking-out-against-hate-directed-at-women-michael-payton/ Hah.. as per the comments there, turns out that TeenSkepchick had previously written this about the author! The board issued a letter explaining the changes and saying that Michael Payton is the new interim dir...

Astrokid.nj, PZ has said in some comment recently that they are moving away from porcupine jokes. I guess he realized that people associate him with the rape joke that it is. I say, you made your spiny bed fucker, now you sleep in it. No sneakily "moving away" from it, or however he put it. Own you...

Point taken about fallacy. However, please explain to me how a womans labia can be considered "odious"? Dont ask me. I like it. I like it ever since I can remember. Its the rest of the woman that I dont like. :lol: :dance: JK I actually dont know anyone else who even talks about it like that.. only...

I pointed out in the past that PeeZuss is not a feminist. How in hell can you consider a vulva "odious". Seriously people, WTF is the matter with him and how come his devotees do not notice? This is not the first time he has inadvertly revealed exactly what he thinks about women. Andrew, Even if he...

Now that both sides have claimed that the other is strawmanning them, and the word 'victim' has made an appearance, it just doesnt feel like a debate unless porcupines are offered. It just doesnt feel like a debate unless the situation escalates, and I grab some popcorn. Please do your part. I think...

Only good thing about the festival, was that all clothing was optional, and I really enjoyed being naked outdoors. Interesting.. Didn't you guys also have some outdoorsy-work activities (i.e DIY to signify separatism from males)? I recently bumped into this image, and was wondering where on earth i...

KiwiInOz wrote:Once upon a time it was asked why do husbands die before their wives?
The answer, of course, was because they want to.

You get Mark Rudov's answer at 3:38
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you know I usually agree with you, Astro, but free contraception helps men as well... I will be happy to argue about that as well Sacha.. the overall well-being of society argument.. (by avoiding unwanted pregnancies). But you will note that the predominant argument in mainstream was not that. They...

Why are people only willing to examine other possible factors when it suits them, and not when it doesn't? When the full picture is looked at, and all possible reasons are examined, it will show that gender discrimination by employers is not the real cause of the wage disparity in the US. Crux of t...

Also, I failed to "get" how the cartoon was a jab at Franc. Someone up to explaining it to the Aspie? (I also failed to "get" the cartoon itself... other than a vague sense that it was supposed to be ironic?) Andrew, There's a part 1 to the comic 3rdWave_Part1.gif From the comments at baboonland 13...

Cristina Rad (Zomgitscriss) has a new video saying that she couldn't back up that old video she took down. Thing is, that old video said things that I KNOW there have been studies proving what she said. Maybe some any MRAs here can help me with links? Scented, you know by now that MRAs have long gi...

ERV.. puh-lease send that where it belongs.. freethoughtblahgs/skeptichunt
Like Franc said long ago.. only gendertraitors can take this thing down
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I mean, sorry to burst any lurking baboon's bubble here, but - gosh, darn! - women sometimes just like to have a casual, no-strings lay too. And PUAism is just another means of increasing the means by which men and women on the lookout for an easy fuck can get it on. Remember, the keyword here is c...

Has it occurred to anyone else that we may becoming the bullies we are attacking? Maybe we are as bad to pile on and all laugh at Amy for freaking out over a T-shirt? What would you guys do if Surly Amy somehow chose to post on here to defend her side? Would you be willing to give her a listen? I'm...

As I have said numerous times, you get, what you expect. Sacha, That sounds like the 'law of attraction'. Have you been reading The Secret ? :) You nasty guys, lay off Amy. Amy dear, ignore these misogynistic assholes who want you to harden the fuck up, and let Mangina Dan Abrams butter you some mo...

Oops! Nope - not a threat at all. Just saying that if she's the type who gets upset about some words on a t-shirt, then she is going to have a seriously rough time in coping with criticism of her creative efforts. Thats a threat. Tigzy. Thats a threat. Say it 10 times and you will internalize it. E...

I take the point that being critical of her art could be taken as a proxy for being critical of the Surly persona itself. Do you still care what the baboons or any of the other sides think of you? If so, you havent been at this long enough. And within the SlimePit, how many of us here cant tell the...

Second wavers burned their boob burqas, third wavers whine about men being rapists But thats not all second wavers did. I know you had socialist feminism which primarily identified capitalism as the source of problems, and you had liberal feminism which wanted to address issues in-place in small wa...

Its totally nauseating watching feminist spin doctors. Oh..All those feminists are the bad types, we are the good ones. BTW.. Here's the new definition of feminism. Oh..That third-wave feminism is the one giving us a bad name, but we second wavers are the good ones. Oh..See all these good things wom...

I have complete disinterest in whether chicks want to get shot at or not, nor any inclination to stop them if they do, but this is peripherally interesting - ... This sound familiar? The unrepresentative drone of a loudmouth special interest minority with no idea or contact with reality - Franc, Yo...

let me emphasize this sentence from Abbie: I have no idea why these people cannot separate their personal experiences from everyones experience or what someone else should expect to experience. I have no fucking idea, but it infuriates me to no end. Not only do they speak for other women, they atta...

Which variant of feminism? All of them? To me some variants appear to be isomorphic to humanism, does humanism need skeptical analysis as well? There are branches of feminism that are already fighting tooth and nail with each other because of differing viewpoints (dogmas?) I have always maintained ...

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