If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Lousy Canuck authored a new post in his "Atheism is not enough" series in which he talks about the [non-] importance of his 'atheist identity' when compared to other labels and the atheist community. In the comment section, Crommunist weighs in: http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2012/12/11/at...

I'm sure if we were the ones proposing infecting (sorry, converting) unsuspecting women with out HIV then FTB would be on fire right now. Kudos to Tigzy (I think) for bringing the lolzy post to our attention. That's the thing that infuriates me: if you change the word used, you literally change how...

I'm just kidding, of course, Justin is remarkably laid back even while being burned at the stake.

http://skepticink.com/justinvacula/2012/12/09/conflation-of-criticism-with-mass-murder-freethought-blogs/ New blog post concerning recent posts from PZ Myers and Taslima Nasreen in which they conflate criticism of feminist thought with mass murder Good post. Funny juxtaposition of the top of this a...

I really don't reason that he's overly thrilled about the controversies that keep miring a majority of the writers on the network who have no connection at all to the batshittery that keeps bubbling up there. There are some really, really good writers such as Mano, Myriam, BioDork, NSC, Aron, Tasli...

rayshul wrote:I'm fucking dying laughing at that new logo though. They are really shit at design.

The giant red banhammer does sort of set the proper tone, however

real horrorshow wrote:
rayshul wrote:Absolutely, we should judge everyone by their colour!! If you don't that's PRIVILEGE.
I think this may help:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8223/8254 ... 6bf9eb.jpg

Fuck yeah I'm Realistic Jesus!

Half-Fish's poz post is pure selfishness. S/h/its needs are more important than the other persons (most normal people call that an unhealthy relationship, even if it is a one-night stand - at least I think it still applies to one-nighters). But the idea struck me that maybe the whole idea is to inf...

skepCHUD wrote:On the other hand what's really wrong with converting someone? Once they get HIV/AIDS they can't be crippled by "privilege".

Check your non-converted privilege and stop healthsplaining.

If Watson had given a talk which revealed some depth and breadth of understanding of the field, I'd accept the applicability of PZâ€™s argument that laypersons are sometimes qualified to talk about science. It's not a bad argument, it just doesn't work here. She was doubly stumped when asked by an a...

When one side in an ongoing argument resorts to trenchant criticism and cutting satire, while the other resorts to shutting down accounts and other fair game tactics, I've a pretty good idea of who actually cares more about furthering social justice. We've seen this play before.

A jumbo-jet doesn't have a joystick, it has a yoke. Not sure the terminology would be less sexist in her eyes, though. Nitpick mode engaged. Airbus has gone to a side stick system in place of a traditional yoke. Boeing, in their commercial lines at least, is sticking with a classic wheel. Some of B...

The idea that Rebecca is somehow being targeted is just silly. Generally agree with you, although I think some have overindulged in some ad hominems or unfair criticisms â€“ but that probably goes with the territory as others on both sides have been similarly â€œblessedâ€ â€¦ I should clarify. Of ...

Up to now only D4M10N has: A) made any sense and B) actually addressed the blogpost. There are 5 or 6 other commentators up to now all missing the point completely either banging on about EP being bullshit or how they have a problem with the gender implications of EP. Thanks for that. The idea that...

Chris Hallquist just jumped in: http://patheos.com/blogs/hallq That's an awesome article. Rebecca's dislike for EP seems to stem from two reasons: 1. EP says that there are some differences between the sexes are biological instead of cultural, and that's something that goes against what she believe...

Chris Hallquist just jumped in: http://patheos.com/blogs/hallq

ERV wrote:Svan defending Watson on the topic of evopsych is like Casey Luskin defending Dembski on the topic of biochemistry.

Thanks for that. Now wiping coffee off my screen.

As I enact this transitional phase in my life I ask that all of you take a close look at your contributions to the in-fighting and ask yourself, â€œIs this thing I am about to attack another atheist for really worth it? Is this thing really that big of a deal that I canâ€™t let it go even though I ...

Wow, this guy really didn't like Becky's talk at Skepticon: Science denialism at a skeptic conference He just swatted a fly with a bulldozer. I'm in love. I believe Ed Clint is getting his PhD at a prestigious Cali university in Evolutionary Psychology/Anthropology or some such. POSEUR!! Ed is my m...

Gnu and SJW: PZ, Ophelia, Adam Lee Gnu and anti-A+: Coyne (even though he tries to keep the issue out of his blog website), Blackford, Abbie Accomo and SJW: Plait Accomo and anti-A+: Kazez (for a while), Stangroom (though it seems mostly as a knee-jerk dislike to anything PZ does) So we're schismin...

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Git wrote:Just get a fucking cat pic, TheMan.
Yeah, pussies FTW:

http://i.imgur.com/oTeKX.jpg

OMG, it's the long-fabled Entwife!

Community is the first step, and OKC atheists have done a good job on the community front. Our meetings arent four people in a coffee shop/smoky bar, there are lots of events that are low intimidation for any first timer (even if they heard about it, would hispanics suddenly want to go to an event ...

Skepticon 2012. Final day - last (i assume keynote speaker) Racial Diversity and/in Our Fight Against Theism, Tony Pinn SK5. reason for posting - audience pan at 38 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NgHb4nZcbQ&feature=g-hist probably a bit unfair, but it made me chuckle. A lot of Skepticon a...

As if our state wasnt blacklisted already, our organizers just announced that they got Lawrence Krauss for FreeOK3! hehe. Discussing this with Aimee at lunch today, concluded that this pretty much guarantees we won't have to worry about getting the social justice warriors as speakers. She's like â€...

CommanderTuvok wrote:Brother Blackford kicking the Baboon King and Queen where it hurts...

http://i.imgur.com/Ezr0I.jpg

Fucking hell. For the sake of conference organizers, someone needs to make a compatibility chart.

Ah i see the great tone debate has reared its head in the pit. Damion needing to understand it for his next blog post? I wasn't considering another post, but it might be fun (just for shits) to see how tone-talk goes over at another forum running phpBB. All this demonstrates is the many headed natu...

If they are true believers then why are they willing to ignore instances of mysogynistic or threatening behavior from their own side and pounce upon far less egregious instances from the other? Because it's way easier to be forgiving of one's friends than one's enemies, just as it's easier to forgi...

Dick,

I have to add that I've seen a few times when they've stretched the paranoia so far that I am forced to believe it is nothing but a tool of convenience, as you say. Most notably when certain female bloggers bailed on certain conferences on the flimsiest of pretexts.

I suggest the following hypothesis: Their actions are politically motivated and the accusations of mysogyny, homophobia, racism and guilt by association are simply tools of convenience, to be used or discarded at will so long as it advances their own position as leaders within the US skeptical conf...

The word issue is really getting boring, and actually a red herring. I think we mostly agree that intention is important, so my question would be why do so many exhibit so much ill intention so quickly? Because you're a fucking slimy faggot magina cunt, that's why. Fuck off with a porcupine up your...

Now, are we appealing to third parties, lurkers and guests? Maybe you are. I write for me and for the people I can see and interact with. Awhile back, I did a week's worth of tracking on the SlymePit's readership numbers, and then I did 12 hours straight, on the hour, every hour. The only pattern t...

Mr Danksworth wrote:If he was a complete asshole, I'd kick his chair over.

Now I'm going to hell for laughing at that.

Careful, though, he has an automatic bitch-slapper on that chair: http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/ ... AD0025FA1C

Rystefn wrote:You clearly have a shallow understanding of hate. I envy you that.

My privilege is showing.

If there are people out there who think I'm discredited by using "bad words," then I don't want any of their fucking bullshit credit anyway. Bunch of uptight cunts. It's not really the words themselves, it's just harder to take someone's argument seriously when they are wearing their hate on their ...

If you don't want to use them, then don't, but if anyone insists on attempting to dictate the way I should communicate, (or try to shame me) they need to be prepared to lose the battle. I've haven't seen anyone trying to dictate, or riding into battle. They can take our lives, but they'll never tak...

I believe watching all 10 seasons of Red Dwarf will bring him up to speed :D I've only ever read the books. Which seasons did those correspond to, if any? Season 1, episode 6 - Me 2. Ok, I've started on series 1 episode 1. So far, it's a lot like the book. "Please be upstanding for the cutting of t...

SurelyYouGuest wrote: Whole song is eye-opening though.

Here's hoping Pussy Riot makes an equivalent paean to the word 'cunt.'

Ok Brits, how well did he pull this off?

[youtube]dABo_DCIdpM[/youtube]

Which sounds like home?

@ d4m10n. I think you're reading too much into it. I can honestly say I talk like a foul mouthed cunt at home, at work and at the pub. It's just the way people speak around where I live. No showing off or being purposefully hardcorXXXE TO THE MAX . Just fitting in. Maybe you're right. For the recor...

I just don't get how calling someone a cock, a cunt, or an asshole is supposed to help you make a case against them. Separate magisteria, pud-knocker. Just as long as they aren't overlapping. In this example, does the comma count as sufficient separation? The use of rude insults is a common feature...

As I said, I don't use it, but more importantly I don't get all judgemental and self righteous about others who do use it, particularly when it is clear they are using it in the standard British insulting meaning of the word (where it basically means asshole.) I'm not being judgmental, I just don't...

You are, however, making a basic error when you say that the people who are the targets of the crude insult need to understand the insult. That would only apply to situations where you are directly insulting them. If you are speaking to someone else, conveying your disgust at the actions of the ins...

Considering the quote I put out is from Red Dwarf, I find this whole conversation kinda funny now :D Wow, that was vastly more impressive that just calling d4m10n a slimy cunt. Are you available to tutor him? I believe watching all 10 seasons of Red Dwarf will bring him up to speed :D I've only eve...

That the word has such widely divergent connotations is exactly why its subjective. If it wasn't, you wouldn't 1. Find it offensive regardless of the denotation (silly, vagina, rabbit, pick one) and 2. Wouldn't understand why someone else might. The reason why it's subjective is because words, dive...

I could go on, because I actually have a degree in Philosophy (although never on fire about the rationalists and speculative metaphysical philosophers due to their tendency to build houses of cards built on sand with an under-foundation of hamster farts) but mostly, I can't tell the difference when...

Asshole and Cunt have TOTALLY subjective meanings and levels of offense depending on the person and the location. If they were indeed *totally* subjective, they would have a different meaning for everyone. Maybe, though, you think the meaning of "subjective" is also subjective, and it can mean anyt...

100% subjective to 0% subjective? I said subjective. And surprise, surprise some words are! You said "words meaning and levels of offense are totally subjective" just about a page ago. As in 100% subjective. You must have realized your mistake, because you went on to defend the far less ridiculous ...

Completely, 100% subjective. That's how language manages to somehow convey meaning between billions of individual people. Seriously, do you even read what you are writing? Yeah there is NO subjectivity at all in insults is there Mr. Merkin? Makes me wonder why this point of contention keeps springi...

Completely, 100% subjective. That's how language manages to somehow convey meaning between billions of individual people. Seriously, do you even read what you are writing? Yeah there is NO subjectivity at all in insults is there Mr. Merkin? Makes me wonder why this point of contention keeps springi...

ReneeHendricks wrote:Fuck it. When it comes to insults and cutting remarks, I like to fall within this style:

"Stop your foul whining you filthy piece of distended rectum!"

(yes, I just went all RD on your ass)

Rene Descartes was one foul-mouthed philosopher. Still, it loses something in translation.

Love how nobody bats an eyelid when somebody calls somebody an "asshole" but "cunt" is just sooooo bad. It's crazy how some words are considered more offensive than others. Unfathomable, really. Like magnets. Totally crazy how those words meaning and levels of offense are totally subjective regardi...

Tony Parsehole wrote:Love how nobody bats an eyelid when somebody calls somebody an "asshole" but "cunt" is just sooooo bad.

It's crazy how some words are considered more offensive than others. Unfathomable, really. Like magnets.

Oh, I noticed I left out the male gendered insults there - ooh, get back, you saucy male privilege, you! Suffice it to say, 'dick' is sort of between a 'tit' and a 'twat', I reckon, whilst 'prick' is somewhere between 'Git' and 'Cunt'. I don't know of any male-gendered insults equivalent to 'Greg L...

Tony Parsehole wrote: I'm from the UK and calling somebody a "dim bulb" wouldn't be considered much of an insult where I live. That's my Council Estate privilege showing. Quite. I keep forgetting that I'm surrounded by middle-class college educated professionals "keeping it real"who think that the ...

You just use ordinary everyday words instead. For example, â€œThis one guy is too much of a dim bulb to figure out how to insult people without using offensive words. I assume he's still in grade school.â€ Why would you go to all that trouble when there are offensive words handy? That's not being ...

I'm guessing the people you deal with are, in fact, teenagers, if "fuckwitted cunt" is considered to be an incisively cutting insult. Or maybe Glasgow Celtic supporters. Online, I cannot tell the difference.

It's clearly a word with mixed views of acceptability. So if somebody identifies as not wanting it said to them (in their web or meat space), it would be rude to do so. How the fuck do you ever manage to insult anybody if you can't call them a name they don't want said to them because it's rude? If...

This is awesome though, even if I was a billionaire I'd have no priviledge. Even if I moved to northern Europe. If you become a billionaire be sure to move your money offshore before you move to Europe. They seem to be hard up for tax revenue just now. (As is the U.S. but we're huge denialists abou...

She did not, to my recollection use the phrase "rape culture" but rather talked about how women are in inculturated to fear both being raped and taking the blame for it. I would characterise her talk as anti-science. It was like a creationist dispelling the myth that the Earth is more than 6000 yrs...

She did not, to my recollection use the phrase "rape culture" but rather talked about how women are in inculturated to fear both being raped and taking the blame for it.

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