If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Myers is getting quite a bit of push-back against his weak tea defense of Ophelia. He's at a cross-roads. Does he continue to defend Benson and argue head-on against some of his own commentariat (many of whom have called BS on his attempted rationalizations)? Or does he cut her loose and try to min...

I think 'You know who else painted all disagreement as harassment? Dawkins and Shermer and their defenders' should be our next header.

Quinn looks like Two Face from Batman. Has she had a stroke?

I think if you are measuring the 'mass' of a particle in electron megavolts there's little point distinguishing between mass and energy. You can measure an amount of fuel by the miles you can drive with it, but that doesn't make an amount of stuff a distance. #oohmmm The Millennium Falcon did the K...

Am I mistaken? Maybe it's just semantics. In any case, I'm no expert, and what little I know about this stuff comes mainly from Taylor and Wheeler, Lev Okun, and Matt Strassler (whose site I linked to above). Haven't been working in particle physics for over a decade (and to be an expert you would ...

Another Ophie post: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2015/08/two-guest-posts-in-one-glenn-beck-level-ass-hattery/#more-21102 One of the most irritating things on the internet is to take a comment on a thread and start another thread from it so everyone who has already replied - for ...

I have never in my long life witnessed such extraordinary and brilliaintly blatant lack of self-awareness as is so often on view at FTB, and particularily so perfectly expressed by Ophie and Canuck while fighting each other. Truly spell binding; truly extraordinary; truly sociopathic. They are both...

CuntajusRationality wrote:http://i.imgur.com/xmA4qCX.jpg

I don't think he realises the phrase 'cuts both ways' cuts both ways.

Christ: Jason Thibeault says August 4, 2015 at 11:03 am Yes, I really thought you might see those tweets as not attacking. Maybe I didnâ€™t realize just exactly how impossible it is to fix an ongoing problem with someone whoâ€™s clearly in full siege mentality mode. I should have taken lessons from ...

Ninja'd

From Benson's post:

Ophelia Benson says
August 4, 2015 at 8:41 am
Cat Mara @ 5 â€“ thank you. Yes, that â€œregurgitatesâ€ made me want to punch a wall. Right, thatâ€™s what I do, I see stuff and then I regurgitate it, kind of like a snipping tool.

Kirbmarc wrote:Women do so much unpaid emotional job. Smiling and being kind is hard work, shitlords.

Just like the Queen Mother, Gawd Rest Her Soul.

Fuck off you silly bitch/ asshole/(add your own favorite expletive here)! Should be the standard reply to SJW whining. This..woman (?) is obviously a vindictive cunt, but for fuck's sake, the DJ is pretty reprehensible too. What sort of a prick tells someone who's been raped they are being a "silly...

Tony Parsehole wrote:Dunno if any of you have seen this.
http://www.vice.com/read/give-your-mone ... simple-284

Can't believe it's not satire to be honest.

Ironically The Guardian has run two articles this week attacking Amnesty's call for the decriminalising of prostitution.

I wonder if there's a correlation between gambling and creationism/intelligent design? Probably not because gambling is regarded as sinful but they both rest on the assumption that chance outcomes are meaningful. There does seem to be a correlation between creationism and the idea rich people got th...

Yeah, the word "selection" throws people off precisely because we associate it with conscious choice, and preceding it with "natural" doesn't really clear anything up for modern English-speakers. What do you think about "filtering" instead? Not that it would ever catch on, but it's a good analogy, ...

Noah lodged a complaint to the management of Queenâ€™s Court and received an email confirming they were aware of the incident. But Noah and Georgia are still unhappy. Noah said: â€œThe manager didnâ€™t even use the right pronouns for Georgiaâ€. Georgia identifies as â€œgender non-conformingâ€ and...

I'm not sure hermaphroditism in snails proves human sex isn't binary any more than snails having one foot proves we aren't bipedal. If you read my reply to Steersman thoroughly you'll find out that we do not disagree. I'm bringing up hermaphroditism in snails to point out the huge difference betwee...

I'm not sure hermaphroditism in snails proves human sex isn't binary any more than snails having one foot proves we aren't bipedal.

Dick Strawkins wrote:

So India is lurching back into the dark ages and FTB are cheering it on?

Only you could think Melby made an honest mistake.

It's fucking obvious what the cartoon represents and even Melby can't be that fucking retarded.

Watson might actually be announcing she thinks she's pregnant. From dodgy meat. Because that's how she thinks it happens.

The cartoon came from a transphobe but everyone can see the guy is meant to be a cis-man. Melby isn't interpreting it ungenerously, she's simply lying about how she interprets it because she's a lying fuck and that's what lying fucks do. The alternative is that every fucking cartoon in which the man...

Calling penises 'meat' is transphobic because women have them too.

Yet more confirmation Watson is a TERF.

I also want to get this off my chest because few things piss me off as much as people complaining about liberal progressives of the past weren't liberal and progressive enough for their taste. Hint: The only reason you believe you're more progressive than them is because you were raised in a world ...

From that transphobia Tweet thread linked to above:

Erasing the puberty of a Trans woman is transphobia.

I'd have thought taking HRT that retards facial hair was erasing puberty when the puberty in question was a boy turning into a man.

I'm starting to wonder if Ophelia is ever actually going to leave FTB. She's milked the situation so much that if it had udders they would be raw, bloody and half-torn away, yet still she carries on. The momentum has gone. She'll stay this time, probably threaten to leave again the next time it kic...

A hate groups enacts violence or harassment of another group because of certain protected characteristics like religion, race, gender, sexual orientation or disability: challenging someone for their political beliefs or abusive behaviour isn't 'hate' unless Hope Not Hate are also a hate group. When...

A hate groups enacts violence or harassment of another group because of certain protected characteristics like religion, race, gender, sexual orientation or disability: challenging someone for their political beliefs or abusive behaviour isn't 'hate' unless Hope Not Hate are also a hate group. When ...

Dick Strawkins wrote:One of Damion's Skeptic Ink co-bloggers is getting his knickers in a twist over the slymepit.

Never heard of him.

Presumably he's just looking for attention.

In Gilliel's case, the term "ocean" is a useful term to define a large sea, and the fuzziness of the boundaries of oceans is simply a sign that the meaning of "ocean" isn't precisely defined in a completely formal way. So you could make a serious argument that the term "ocean" has a direct correlat...

Brive1987 wrote:

She's saying he transitioned.

Jan Steen wrote:Oafie is the personification of the stereotypical man-hating lesbian. Her radfem views on heterosexual interactions ("PIV sex" = treating women as toilets) are just sick.

She's always struck me as anhedonic.

Opie tried to resign from FTB a while back but Myers just won't let her go:

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If we're in the process of deciding on the collective noun for multiple vampires, then I would also like to officially enter my vote for "TERF War" as the label for the ongoing spat over Ophelia Benson (mostly to get a name attached to it before anyone suggests one ending in "-gate"). And while I'm...

Tigzy wrote:So what happened to the 'Horde's policy of 'feeding the trolls until they explode'?

I'm re-reading Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun and by coincidence now know force-feeding someone to death is 'planteration'.

Didn't think I'd get to use that word so quickly!

Billie from Ockham wrote:
Eskarina wrote:P.S. OT Is there a word for a horde of vampires like "school" or "murder" or "unkindness"?
There's nothing in the OED, but "coven" is often used.

I'd suggest 'colony', like bats.

Benson is a last shining light. Last? More like lingering. That old mare really is ekeing out this 'leaving FTB' business. Some have suggested she's hanging on to get more please-don't-leave-we-wuv-ooo cred, but given what she's written on her FB page about how she needs to 'stop checking her email...

I'd be curious if our medical docs have any opinion on fibromyalgia. Not specific to Malady, of course, no internet diagnosis needed. Just perhaps their thoughts on what surely seems a diffuse and perhaps vague set of symptoms that have been codified as a syndrome. Any practicing medical doc must s...

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
.s e stingy, Melody.

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comhcinc wrote:I bet Noel already has Steelter on ignore.

Maybe that's why he registered.

2nd part of Noel's (un)Civil War broadcast to which Steers refers:

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Hi, I wanted to register and pop by in here to say thanks. In the past I have determinedly avoided doing so because, it seems, unlike YouTube/FtB/restoftheinternet an account linked to this forum seemingly makes you responsible for anything and everything that has ever been posted here. For some ti...

Dear PZ.. Please can I have a thread to discuss Gay Nazi Sex Niggers in Patriarchal Neckbeard Republican Transmisogyny Terror Plot? Will curate. The problem is they won't discuss arts, crafts, movies and hobbies, they'll discus how arts, crafts, movies and hobbies are 'problematic'. Something 'inte...

Lol, I was wondering why the Guardian didn't like him considering how left wing he is. The Guardian has female writers, gay writers, black writers, etc. but they tend to be publicly educated Oxbridge types. Class is their shameful secret because they can't play the class card except when they are g...

One could even argue that racial animosity between two groups of poor wage slaves serves the ultimate benefit of the bosses who exploit them. But now I'm being a filthy marxist sjw piece of shit. I don't agree with Marx's ideology, but his criticisms of capitalism are pretty much spot on. That's ju...

'Rowdy' Roddy Piper - Hell Comes to Frogtown

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Be there, for the Dance of the Three Snakes

Is a trans* person who refuses to accept a detrans* person's gender identity detransphobic?

Are they Detrans-Exclusionary Radical Transgenderists - or DERT for short?

I'm currently reading a lot about people who are detransitioning... I'd thought detransitioning very rarely happened but there does seem to be quite a few blogs around the place about it. Not sure what to think. I can't wait to see how SJWs rationalise this. If a transwoman has always been a woman ...

Richard Dworkins wrote:Hey Comhcinc, I see Roddy Piper tapped out for the last time, still at least he didn't go out lik Chris Benoit eh?

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Boom MFA Boston says a man and a woman. Skepchicks will say doesn't matter for their narrative of course...and it doesn't really. They could have found a diffrent vessel. But it shows me their lackadaisical research. http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/drinking-cup-kylix-with-erotic-scene-153752 ...

Re: Hive minds. We've used the term 'hive mind' quite a bit when talking about FTB and different factions over there are now using it against each other. I've always taken the term as a metaphor; that a beehive isn't 'intelligent' in any real sense and that 'hive mind' is just a loose analogy or sho...

Just wondering, why do we never hear the word 'androcology'?

http://skepchick.org/2015/07/lets-talk-about-gender-baby/ Has this been posted yet? The Skepchickies weigh in, now with more neutral. Also, they use this image- SkepchickGreekTragedy.jpg to illustrate "Image on Greek pottery of two male-bodied people engaging in sex act." Yet it looks to me like a ...

I wonder if she's going to start writing about being kicked in the 'country matters'?

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Shatterface wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:With her name, how could she resist? Drama queen to the end.
So who's her Hamlet?
PZ, nobody else would take the job.

Hamlet only faked his insanity.

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:With her name, how could she resist? Drama queen to the end.

So who's her Hamlet?

deLurch wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Column by Ms Benson in The Freethinker, posted today:
http://freethinker.co.uk/2015/07/31/rea ... -the-need/
Holy fuck. She just wrote an entire opinion piece.

843 words. Only 67 of them were quotes.
So 92% her own work!

Does she really think her downfall is a Shakespearian tragedy?

Opie's resignation is so drawn out Peter Jackson has just bought the film rights.

For Steersman: apparently the brains of trans people seem to be more similar to the brains of the people of the gender they identify as than to the brains of the people of their biological gender Although it's interesting to note that the brains of Female To Male trans people seem to be close to th...

Jesus sends the devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. Clearly Jesus could have simply sent the devils out, yet he chose instead to place them into pigs and kill them. This is called animal abuse. Mark 5:12-13 No, it's called 'deviled ham' http://www.bona...

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