If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

franc wrote:
rayshul wrote:Privilege? Please, I HAVE A VAGINA.
Evidence or STFU.

Tears count, right?

rayshul wrote:Privilege? Please, I HAVE A VAGINA.

Awesome. Now, for the next 100 posts, that line will be the first thing people read when they come to the thread.

I think it sets the tone quite well, to be honest.

Privilege? Please, I HAVE A VAGINA.

Of course, they want to start a new movement. Let them. I'll be glad to see them fuck off so they can circle jerk amongst themselves. They are a small minority whose fundamentalist and bullying views are not shared by the wider A/S movement. The reception the Skepchicks got at TAM2012 is a small sa...

Yanno, in fairness... When I was 17 I was attending a very expensive, private all girl's school, going to super parties and deciding what apartment I wanted mummy and daddy to buy for me. We ain't all hardcore. :)

Hm. Might have just had an ethical change of opinion. If Roth is DMCA-ing all over the place, I don't see an issue with DMCA-ing her back for her copyright infringements. I'm not sure I can justify that really to myself though - the part of me that's like, you shouldn't fuck with people's livelihoo...

So virtue versus consequence , in a nutshell? I just see them as different questions. What does the consequentialist think is worse? I say murder (although the trauma argument is a consequentalist argument too). What does the virtue ethicist think is worse? You say rape - I must admit I'm not sure ...

I think they can be compared - look at it like this: Someone is holding a gun to your head. They say that you must either rape or kill Person X (who is innocent), or you will be killed yourself (and assume that this is a sufficient reason for you to comply). What do you choose? Surely the lesser mo...

Plus she's an annoying-as-fuck whiny-arse bitchcunt... True, but unfortunately still not a criminal offense. It feels very weird to try and think this through, to be honest. I've got my own moral values and try not to be biased (as much as possible), but this is one of those situations where I thin...

Short version of what I'm saying: When we say murder is worse, we mean that the results of the act are the worst thing that could happen to a human. When we say rape or torture is worse, we mean that the mental actions of the person committing the act are beyond what we can comprehend or understand ...

Even then, unjustified murder vs unjustified rape, it's not equivalent. Rape is, generally speaking, a form of torture. There could be a comparison made between sexual torture vs non sexual torture, but murder is a hugely different thing and I don't think you can really compare them in any way that ...

And he thinks that MURDER isn't as bad as rape. The killing of another human being. The slaughter of sentient life, such that they no longer exist any more. What? Haven't you heard, it's "a fate worse than death"! I've heard a few people say this and I think the reason they do isn't so much about w...

Hm. Might have just had an ethical change of opinion. If Roth is DMCA-ing all over the place, I don't see an issue with DMCA-ing her back for her copyright infringements. I'm not sure I can justify that really to myself though - the part of me that's like, you shouldn't fuck with people's livelihoo...

Hm. Might have just had an ethical change of opinion. If Roth is DMCA-ing all over the place, I don't see an issue with DMCA-ing her back for her copyright infringements. I'm not sure I can justify that really to myself though - the part of me that's like, you shouldn't fuck with people's livelihood...

I'm embarrassed to say that while listening to Rogan/Kilstein, my husband and I are arguing over which one of them looks more like a rapist.

"I hope a unicorn comes down and drowns you with its piss."

By the way if anyone does wanna game with me I have pretty much All The Games (for freez!!!) so hit me up in PM and we can go shoot zombies or some shit. Aside from secret world though I'm not a PC player.

Yeah, in retrospect I'm not sure where that mental picture was going either. Well it's 1am and there's volcanos getting all crazy n' shit so forgive me if I'm not the most ... writery of stuff that makes sense person. Etna? Ruapehu, White island and Tongariro, although they've chilled out a little ...

Yeah, in retrospect I'm not sure where that mental picture was going either.

Well it's 1am and there's volcanos getting all crazy n' shit so forgive me if I'm not the most ... writery of stuff that makes sense person.

It's *not* radfeminism. It's all SJW. True. For me it's about SJWs, their tactics, and their trying to take over the skeptic/atheist movement. I've never really been interested in gender issues particularly (although I believe in equality, of course), so I don't want to just criticise 'radfems'. I ...

I mean these are people who sat there dumbly while that Sikivu woman talked about the four horsemen's white supremacist bullshit.

It's *not* radfeminism. It's all SJW.

Ok, you know how we are called 'MRAs' and 'PUAs' and slymepitters? You know how it's just FTB that's the problem, and only part of FTB at that? I propose that we start referring to the problem as SJWs, just like on tumblr. I must admit, I never liked "Fainting Couch 5". My grandparents would have b...

Notung wrote:Anyway, after seeing the photo of the place, I have decided to make jewellery for a living.

Seriously. I just bought a sweet city penthouse last year, but now I'm like... FUCK I shoulda got one with a pool. :(

I think Amy was given ample opportunity to say she didn't do this - and unless she's trying to protect someone, I can't see why she wouldn't just say no I didn't. There's no logical reason why not. Being evasive is not confirmation she did it, though as has been pointed out she is the only one with...

We are indeed all unique snowflakes.

There is no BORG.

Well, like RW in an elevator, mine is entirely a subjective opinion on a situation. Obviously her details are online for anyone to look at, but as I said I'm uncomfortable with people posting them in the 'pit. I don't think Justin needed to include them to make his point. My concern of course can be...

I think Amy was given ample opportunity to say she didn't do this - and unless she's trying to protect someone, I can't see why she wouldn't just say no I didn't. There's no logical reason why not. Agree with Tigzy on the address stuff. Am uncomfortable with people reporting Sally and posting Amy's ...

I remember a while ago we were all betting on what would OFFEND AMY NEXT.

She kinda outdid herself with the DMCAing, I have to admit. Props.

An incredible amount of Amy's art reminds me of stuff that comes out my baby's arse, but I kinda want a DMCA one.

Michael K Gray wrote:Rhys Morgan.
Hero to Zero, courtesy of Rebecca Watson and her poisonous circus.

Oh I don't know. Apparently he's (she's?) taking part in the "Fuck the Patriarchy" readathon for Rape Crisis.

I am struggling to believe that is a thing.

Not sure if anyone's linked yet to the new skepticblogs.com (although for some reason that link doesn't work for me)... Has under it Debunking Christianity now and appears to be a new blogging platform where you probably can't say cunt, but everyone will be nicer. ...although they probably did post ...

She's such a special flower.

Not sure if people linked to this - a rant from Wooly Bumblebee. http://isgodasquirrel.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/some-thoughts-on-bullshit-vent.html She's like my new hero n' shit. When discussing this stuff with other (sane) people they suggested I look at tumblr because it's a shitfest of entitled wa...

I've largely felt Sikivu's opinions so outrageously offensive I can't read more than a few words of her.

First of all we need some solid harrassment policies that prevent the crime of talking-while-male.

Maybe the wiki needs a post that clarifies the entire response to things rather than expecting everyone to read through the thread. It's much easier not to read and just say "these people think women are worthless"... Not volunteering to do it tho... eheheh. Not really the most thoughtful-thinky per...

Really, that blog was nice and all, but it's like people don't get the fucking problem or something. It's not about people being civil on motherfucking blogs. We're not civil here and discussions happen just fine. The real problem is about people fucking hounding out people and publically shaming th...

http://synapses.co.za/unstoppable-tide-trolls/ What I'd post in response to that blog, if I ever posted outside the safety of the Slimepit, would be... There's another issue you're not touching on here, and that's the attempts to ruin people's lives outside of the internet. Commenting on an issue o...

Anyways, what really seemed to set people off was my criticism of Dawkins/Hitchens "Religion poisons everything" position. Despite the fact that I'm a big fan of both and have read a good portion of their stuff. And I'm sorry I just don't see that as controversial in the least. A number of people a...

EveryMan wrote:
rayshul wrote: Also, are we using baboon as an in-insult now? LOL
It's been franc's go-to insult for awhile now. Which I personally find pretty baboon-like myself. :mrgreen:

I DO NOT LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rather be a misogynist to be honest ahahhaha

That's also from steersman but thinking that over, I may be being unfair to Amy... That chick was hyped up like motherfuck from all her Skepchick friends telling her to watch out for harrassment and basically ramped up into hysteria probably before she even got there. Maybe she just had a wee break...

I mentioned roadrage on the Everyman thread as a good way of judging someone's control over their emotions as it's something men and women seem to experience at similar levels but men are more likely to lose their everloving shit, which'd support the "women have more emotional intelligence" thing. ...

That's also from steersman but thinking that over, I may be being unfair to Amy... That chick was hyped up like motherfuck from all her Skepchick friends telling her to watch out for harrassment and basically ramped up into hysteria probably before she even got there. Maybe she just had a wee break...

Ohhh my last post reading over was somewhat harsher than i intended it to be.... hope the drift was clear anyway... but these are issues where it's actulaly like important if you want to make your point to explain what you're talking about in the first place Well, here's the thing. I can't read min...

I kind of think it quite crucial to be clear on which groups or segments of the class â€œwomenâ€ you are referring to. That SOME women are overly emotional you have already conceded, in effect, with your â€œwailywailers like Amyâ€. That's also from steersman but thinking that over, I may be being...

But I would argue that thereâ€™s probably just as large of percentage of men as of women who are â€œoverly emotionalâ€, largely on the basis that commitment to various dogmas, mostly religious but not exclusively, is, I think, mostly a question of egregiously â€œoverlyâ€ emotional responses ... T...

Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:36 pm Hah, I definitely disagree that women are more emotional than men. I don't think the wailywailers like Amy are even SLIGHTLY representative of the average woman. /ANECDOTE I kind of think it quite crucial to be clear on which groups or segments of the class â€œwomenâ€ you ...

I have to say that the "chill girl" thing is a lovely way to demonise women who get on better with guys. GO BACK TO THE SISTERHOOD!!!

Ohhh my last post reading over was somewhat harsher than i intended it to be.... hope the drift was clear anyway... but these are issues where it's actulaly like important if you want to make your point to explain what you're talking about in the first place Also thought roadrage stats would probabl...

I don't quite understand how they reconcile the idea that women are on the Slime-side...

Oh wait, I do. Because girls on the Slime side are "chill girls" who just want to act like they're one of the guys for some dick.

My bad, just answered my own question.

Actually Everyman I think your issue in communicating your points with people is that you aren't... super good at explaining what the fuck you're saying at all. If you explained things better - for example, explain "emotional intelligence" and the components that it makes up, rather than just saying...

How the fuck do the women who think they're feeling "safe" feel safe around people like this? How the fuck can NATALIE? If she posts one thing they don't like, how long does she think it'll be until they're posting her shit around the place? Here's your answer: Amphiox shows (his and FTB's) complet...

Hah, I definitely disagree that women are more emotional than men. I don't think the wailywailers like Amy are even SLIGHTLY representative of the average woman.

/ANECDOTE

AHGHGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh.

I think I might play it again today. I watched some playthroughs with the sound off and was... more comfortable with the idea of it.

Alternative medicine: harmless complementary medicine or fatal woo? I vote for woo. But am interested in how much of this complementary + normal medicine shit combination stuff that is being done is going to include an honest speech about the effectiveness of the complementary therapies. I mean, ye...

I've been thinking about this all night but... Now FtB have absolutely proven that they can't be trusted and are happy to go after people. They're fine to publish people's private details. They're fine to try to exert pressure to get people fired. They're fine to hunt down people who disagree with t...

Note he says that he knows they're going nuts about it in the background, but with no explanation of how (does he secretly crawl into their mailing list every day?). The explanation provided by the Lazy Canuck suggests that he was registered on the mailing list until August 2nd. Sorry, Lousy Canuck...

If they invited Thunderf00t to that same channel, I doubt there's a backchannel within the backchannel - any uberscheming would be done my private emails, I expect. Which would suggest Aron Ra and others have access to this shit. I don't know, I don't read the FtB blogs, but do you think ALL of them...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:06 pm Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:01 pm Does Tf00t say anywhere where he got the emails from? Is it possible that they put him on the list when he joined FTB and just failed to take him off again? Or that someone at FTB is forwarding him this stuff? No disrespect to Thunderf00t but he rea...

From WWJTD You canâ€™t disagree with freethoughtblogs, because freethoughtblogs doesnâ€™t have a position. Itâ€™s not an entity under a banner of agreement, itâ€™s a group of people who write on the same network. Atheism aside, youâ€™ll be hard-pressed to find a subject on which we all align. I've ...

Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:01 pm Does Tf00t say anywhere where he got the emails from? Is it possible that they put him on the list when he joined FTB and just failed to take him off again? Or that someone at FTB is forwarding him this stuff? No disrespect to Thunderf00t but he really doesn't seem like a h...

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