If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

SPACKlick wrote:
Steersman wrote:SPACEKlick
Just FYI, this typo really bugs me. It's SPACKlick, short for Spastic Window Licker. Not Spacelick like the astronaut. :whistle:

Actually he's written it SpaceKlick, so more like this:

http://www.oddfilms.com/blog/media/carr ... -blood.jpg

Not great for licking, though.

That seems to fit in with Matts statement about the name (and probably the entire 'movement') being generated (in secret?) in the FTB backchannel. Bit shitty of him, to have a stupid idea and set up some silly student to take the fall for it, hey! The A+ rallying sounds a lot like what I've heard o...

Although I was wondering about the differences between the â€œSlyme Pitâ€ and Atheism-Plus: both phpBB boards, about 15,000 posts in each since July/August, but A+ has all sorts of what certainly appears to be certified whackos to have to deal with â€¦. I wonder whether itâ€™s the heavy moderation...

Well... on the subject of religion... I really hope that someone is going to research and study this little A+ phenomenon. It's about as close as I've seen to an actual cult spring up out of virtually nothing. (Well, with associations with social justice and feminism. But generally.) There's a whole...

Butters wrote:
rayshul wrote:Let's see if he comes here, next.
I assume not. He would have nothing to gain by doing so and much to lose.

Bloke could always do it incognito. Investigate. See if we're truly evil! (We are.)

Whoops, wrong thread. Here's the actual link. http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1502 Just wow... Matt was being sneeky but for good reasons...he was testing the fairness and objectivity of the forum. He could have only done that under a different name. Congrats Matt...good onya. Yea...

Let's see if he comes here, next.

I wonder how members of Atheism+ who are not privileged white women think about her take of the LAPD? I have no idea who the audience of her tweets is meant to be. Who the fuck would read those and not think, wow, what a fucking fuckbag. She's doing this shit for attention. Amy is a special cookie.

Isn't it funny how it went quiet really quickly on the issue of the "Skeptics In The Pub' sexist. I still think the Baboon Narrative Department put out a immediate D-Notice (ie ban on the press from reporting it) to all followers because it is somebody seen as a close ally of Watson, Skepchick and ...

This is what the current situation is in North America, and this is what happened to Queeen Bee: http://www.theuniversityofman.com/storage/sol_access_chart.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1346320480948 Hahaha. That's hilariously true. Not as old as Queen Bee, though (just). Shit though, my husband i...

I generally do not have issues with the "equity" feminists myself. I have no use for the RadFems, Femtheists and their parrots. I strongly suspect that within the next 200 years, future generations of women are going to bitterly curse them, instead of just being generally unhappy. I think feminism ...

http://www.change.org/petitions/atheist-voices-of-minnesota-remove-stephanie-zvan-from-her-role-with-the-atheist-voices-of-minnesota THE COMMUNITY HAS TO ACT TO REMOVE THESE BULLIES... I feel like if there are enough wild-ass petitions out there, change.org may rethink its policy of letting any old...

Tor MRAs and their ilk like myself he has this to say: You see this all the time with blogs that fight against radical feminism. They self-identify as victims, and get the narcissistic contagion dynamic that Vaknin describes of. Then they dedicate all their time to studying the evils of radical fem...

The Justin Vacula witch-hunt is amazing.

Been watching all day. Quite fucking amazing.

Saddly, more than a few listen to the bullshit they spew and take it as gospel. This is what really worries me. I could see one or two SCA executives being sympathetic to FTB and trying to undermine Justin. What would be the best course of action then? I'm reading up on defamation laws and have alr...

I see your point Phil, don't get me wrong, but I'm starting to think it's better to treat them like small minded fundamentalists. No one listens to the crazy they spew and I feel like less and less people are listening to what FtB has to say, too. They're sounding more like the weirdos who shout RAC...

I'll cut Watson some slack on this plane&winegate. Not really relevant at the moment, I think. I'm more concerned about the attacks on Justin, and wonder if there would be some ground for legal action. Looks like pure libel to me. I think it's probably smart not to jump on the SUE EVERYONE bandwago...

As a bit of an aside, I couldn't fucking believe this post. Female-friendly design. http://tessrinearson.com/blog/?p=560

I love Wooly's take on these first world problems.

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Fuck me but the atheismplus forums are a giant pity party of me-me-meing.

Well to be fair to her, when shit is going sweet for me I brag my arse off. I just don't also wail about how unprivileged I am on account of having a vagina.

At least she's not attacking other people and their work or calling young skeptics names. BRIGHT SIDE, GUYS.

There have been studies showing that the pay gap in the STEM fields are because the women are choosing to hold the second job of motherhood at the same time as their day jobs. These women end up working far less hours and applying for the lesser houred (and lesser paid) positions. Over the years I ...

Of course itâ€™s easier and faster to write stupid things than it is to refute them, and I could employ myself for a week in the pursuit of a thorough refutation of everything in Nurdyâ€™s post. That's from Crommunist's post on misogynist as the new nigger... Sounds a bit Greta ey... I WOULD LOVE T...

During part of her talk about her career she decided to tell the women in the crowd not to worry about having children, because you could study while you were raising your children, and then when you went back to work after your children were in school (part time, obviously!!!) you would still be u...

I suspect RW just wants attention now for not doing a calendar the same as she did when she was doing a calendar.

Way to shit on the work of others though.

Regarding the MRA-and-the-depressed-wife, I find it fascinating that PZ automatically assumed the woman would be staying home and looking after the kid. That's really what I took away from all that. Absolutely, and nobody int he first 80-90 comments called him on it... What a gyp. I went to a talk ...

Fucking stupid shit. Particularly after the Nude Revolutionary Calendar, which was actually pretty fucking amazing and I thought it made quite an important point. I quite agree. Greta needs props for that effort. I really dislike a lot of her politics and opinions, particularly on feminism, but agr...

Is Hemant really that naÃ¯ve? http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/09/25/just-say-no-to-skeptic-calendars/ Fucking stupid shit. Particularly after the Nude Revolutionary Calendar, which was actually pretty fucking amazing and I thought it made quite an important point. Although for my ...

Regarding the MRA-and-the-depressed-wife, I find it fascinating that PZ automatically assumed the woman would be staying home and looking after the kid. That's really what I took away from all that. Some of our whitest knights are closeted sexist pigs, go figure.... I assume all white knights are s...

Regarding the MRA-and-the-depressed-wife, I find it fascinating that PZ automatically assumed the woman would be staying home and looking after the kid. That's really what I took away from all that.

KiwiInOz wrote:Re the chances of being badly or fatally hurt - http://www.smh.com.au/national/bad-thin ... 26q0m.html

Great article. Feel a bit justified now in the fact I really don't think about this kind of stuff.

I'm currently trying to put together a survey that will help me get some data for my local area, but on a straw poll among my online contacts, S'sR is way overstating the case and most of the precautions (don't walk down a dark alley alone while drunk) are exactly like my precautions. I'm just not ...

quite drunk so not sure if making much sense, though.

I donâ€™t know that â€œpurely on physical capabilityâ€ is entirely accurate, although Iâ€™ll concede that that is a large part of my position or perspective. However, I think youâ€™re misreading me if you think that Iâ€™m arguing that everyone has the same degree of potential. And relative to a la...

Yeah I haven't seen much change in the Slimepit. Lots of yelling, people fighting all the time, arguments, no one agreeing, people telling people to fuck right off, people telling them to fuck right off right back. Exactly. And graphically too â€¦ :-) Frequently the last resort of those with nothin...

Yeah I haven't seen much change in the Slimepit. Lots of yelling, people fighting all the time, arguments, no one agreeing, people telling people to fuck right off, people telling them to fuck right off right back.

He's not attractive. My 2cs on the very important question posed a while ago. These people who do nothing and then whine on a blog fuck me off. It's like that episode of Seinfeld where they're all standing there making bitchy comments about a guy getting mugged in front of them. I'm glad I don't liv...

How difficult is it to out the name of a groper - especially if it is someone who is famous for that sort of behavior, as the reports suggest for this English guy. I presume people like this exist, even in the mild mannered confines of the skeptics movement, so why the fuss about outing the guy. I'...

...hey, we have legal prostitution here? Sweet!

I agree with John Greg on the castrated - it's the point I'm trying to make - that rape is not necessarily about sexual desire and you do not need to be sexually aroused to rape someone. What the egregiously obtuse Steersman cretin fails to realise is the popular opinion that most rapes of adult vi...

Have been watching Ophelia and Cindy...

Can't stop myself from picturing them in a RL fight. It's a bit like how I used to picture Hitchens and Mother Theresa.

I think you are terribly unclear on the meaning, implications and ramifications of the word and concept â€œ potential â€ and that is muddying the waters: poâ€¢tenâ€¢tial (p-tnshl) adj. 1. Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem. 2. Having possibility, capability, or ...

Maybe then youâ€™re not aware of the effects of chemical castration and that it has been used as a treatment in many â€œcases involving serious sex offensesâ€: When used on men, these drugs can reduce sex drive, compulsive sexual fantasies, and capacity for sexual arousal. I am aware of that. (I'v...

I'm surprised sometimes by the types of people who turn out to try and criminalise the sex industry.

Maybe then youâ€™re not aware of the effects of chemical castration and that it has been used as a treatment in many â€œcases involving serious sex offensesâ€: When used on men, these drugs can reduce sex drive, compulsive sexual fantasies, and capacity for sexual arousal. I am aware of that. (I'v...

Woah, Gallileo. Like BarnOwl I've never really given a shit about this but woah.

Interesting that there are such a high percentage of men on FtB. The main commentariat on Pharyngula is all male, isn't it? Or virtually so?

Hah, possibly. I've got eunuchs on the brain at the moment, just finished a story about one for a new collection.

Here's a Google trends update . It seems Pharyngula has reached more or less its lowest ebb since it appeared on the radar - going by search volume at least, which is admittedly a dubious metric. Elevatorgate spiked Pharyngula's traffic but it's been going down ever since. I'm shocked, shocked, I t...

But likewise Iâ€™ll agree that the potential for a eunuch to rape anyone is probably pretty close to zero â€“ although that phrasing suggests some similarities to â€œprobabilityâ€. But in consequence Iâ€™ll concede the point that not all men are potential rapists. However, that still leaves open t...

Seems to me that what youâ€™re doing there is envisioning circumstances in which men could become murderers and thieves: anger, destitution, what-have-you. Fail to see why you canâ€™t conceive similar possibilities for rape: lust, anger, alcohol or drug fuelled or not; the collapse of civil authori...

It's a lie to assume all men (or all women) have the potential to rape. "Potential". There's also "potential" for your wife to fuck your boss, file for divorce, concoct a history of domestic violence and child abuse, take the kids and prohibit you from seeing them for their "safety", steal your hou...

Some other kind of physical abuse, I meant.

I have sympathy for victims. I have zero sympathy of people who say it's acceptable to think everyone is a potential X and suggest that that's a fine way to think. It's not. Test for these kinds of blanket statements - would they feel comfortable making such assertions against blacks, jews or fags?...

Seems to me that youâ€™re confusing â€œprobabilityâ€ with â€œ potential â€, the latter being: 1. Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent . I donâ€™t have the potential of flying to the moon, but given some particular set of circumstances and conditions I expect I could become a rapist o...

Based on this evidence, ALL women on my street are potential murderesses. Maybe all women in general are potential murderesses. Even though my wife hasn't tried to kill me, she has yelled at me a few times in the last 25 years. Could I be next? Should I build a fireproof panic room to sleep in? OMG...

I think it was Stephanie Zvan who was â€œassuming that every person of X type is a rapistâ€ while all I was saying was â€œpotential rapistâ€. A distinction on which I think Justicar did a video earlier. But you might want to take a look at that Noelplum video where he also concedes that that latt...

And, of course, depending on the degree of physical and psychological trauma involved and the extent to which those women who have in fact been victimized by such assaults tend to congregate together for mutual support, one can certainly understand that they at least might have some justification f...

Hello. Another guest, however not an antagonist nor a fan of Mabus. You have the good will of many people you would not assume. You wish to see them fail, to become obscurities? Try starting a petition to have Watson debate Dinesh DeSouza or William Lane Craig. I don't think that kind of thing work...

Has the #atheismplus hashtag been taken over by the religious, now?

This shit is fantastic.

Ohh, I'd like to see that. You will. Paul and I have hashed out details by email. The topic is jury nullification in rape trials. Three exchanges. I go first. Post will be up within a week. Brilliant. I thought the jury nullification suggestion was fucked up but I'm interested to see how it's justi...

Johann the Cabbie wrote:I responded that I don't do public speaking, but I'd be happy to debate him in writing.

http://johannthecabbie.blogspot.nl/2012 ... ipped.html

Ohh, I'd like to see that.

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