If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

For some reason my text seems to get swallowed each time I quote someone, so I am just trying out here.

226 Flip the second 3 April 2014 at 4:34 am (UTC -5) Link to this comment I have been following this from afar due to lack of time, but this latest antic burned me enough that I got off my lazy ass and donated what little I could to the campaign. I canâ€™t even begin to imagine how stressed out she...

[.img]http://media.giphy.com/media/136V8raQQogOfm/giphy.gif[/img] Radford ups the ante! Dig in! http://benrlegal.info/ If there's one thing people here seem to agree on about this mess, it's that airing legal laundry in public isn't a bright idea. I don't see how he is helping himself here. On the ...

http://sexysecularconference.com/harassment-policy/ If someone seeks sex at this "sex positive" conference and, without harassing someone, makes a casual sexual remark, they may be booted? Give me a break. Yes, this tendency of having it three ways and none is really what is so infuriating. If ther...

Ophelia just cannot stop beclowning herself. From the following: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels But the photo under that shows the Random House edition of Proust, which of course is a translation. Itâ€™s a little odd to say youâ€™ve â€œread Proustâ€ just like that when youâ€™ve re...

Though, do remember spence according to Matt it is horribly unfair to judge overpopulation anxiety by the statements of its most public proponents.

Courtesy of the Let's Kick Them While They're Down Department, a recent story of more water being discovered in Kenya: http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/3922/20130911/massive-aquifer-discovered-kenya-holds-70-years-worth-water-reshape.htm Wasn't someone saying that we were Running Out Of Water?

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/Sublime_Wind/Misc/MGSVquiet_zpseb94fe60.png A bikini combat suit is retarded. She's just presented as eye candy Well, yes. That's the point. Plenty of games are like that, and not just for the guys. I mean, the number of anime fangirls who have a thing for thi...

PZ has targeted SETI now. Of course rather than respectfully disagreeing he calls it a boondoggle. While I suspect the probability of intelligent life on a nearby star system is quite low, I have no problem if people want to look for it. <snip> Whether or not it is worth doing - well, that is up to...

Well, it has finally happened. Myers has finally given his formal repudiation of science and reason, deciding that his pissant political ambitions need to trump everything, up to and including science: http://www.skepticink.com/prussian/2013/09/16/myers-finally-comes-right-out-and-abandons-reason-an...

spence you are doing fine. Allow me to invite you to my electronic pad anytime. Matt, meanwhile, fails to understand that if you have a view of economics so divorced from morals and reality that both Marx and Rand would smack you, it is time to reexamine your life. Cannot believe the abject stupidi...

@ Dornier , I think you will find that the bulk of opinion is against you on this one. So regardless if you take the democratic (majority vote) or capitalist (property rights) view, that's not going anywhere. windy There are situations, I can imagine, where issues are exacerbated by increased popula...

Spence wrote: So far, number of strawman fallacies correctly identified: zero. I'm almost tempted to put one in deliberately to see if you spot it. I guess if you point at everything and call it a strawman, eventually you'll be right. Could take a while though. And I have a bridge for sale in Brook...

Spence wrote: Mind you, the pig probably has a better grasp of physics than you do. As ThePrussian notes, your response to me is by and large a pack of lies Prove it. It should be relatively easy for someone with your intellectual prowess to prove Matt wrong with a mere flick of the wrist. Simple a...

Spence is ably taking care of Matt, which frees me up for the sensible conversation here. Since you've ignored every specific question I've asked you, found yourself proven stupefyingly wrong on the technical details of solar, wind, and light bulbs Actually, that's all lies from you, as anyone can ...

Spence is ably taking care of Matt, which frees me up for the sensible conversation here. ThePrussian wrote: Large families are a consequence of that level of poverty; you cannot even begin to think of family planning until you start to pull out of that state of life. Large families are a consequen...

Quick, anonymous friend of TP! -- warn all these nations before they hurtle headlong into impracticable large-scale solar projects: Once again, you seem to fail to get that that is rather an argument for my side - after all, it's an example of the technical advance you consider a myth. I'd still pr...

Good God, is that real? I knew Myers was twisted, but is that real? Yes, that was an extremely good example of his utter bullshit. And it inspired this, and a few similar variations of absolutely true (and still public-facing) contradictions. http://i.imgur.com/ntZfyhG.png click to expand each. htt...

ThePrussian wrote: Once again, the problem is poverty, not population. You do realize that 6 children on a 1 acre farm is basically going to condemn the entire family to extreme poverty? That was the state of affairs not that long ago in Europe; in fact, my family has some memories of that sort of ...

Take it up with Matt - he's the one who thinks that technology is static. You've got more straw men than a cornfield in Iowa! It's long, long past time when you could complain of that. I offered you many opportunities to debate reasonably; now it's too late The grid needs to be updated before it ca...

(I have barn work to catch up on today, so I'll only be able to clean up The Prussian's pile of manure a little at a time) I will happily lump you in with Ehrlich etc, given your statements that the poor becoming wealthy would be bad. When you use Straw Man fallacies, do you consciously do it, or a...

You get the feeling that Myers is a little like those TV Evangelists who thunders against homosexuality and is shortly found sprawled out on the floor of some Men's room somewhere? Incidentally, I've been "on your side" for a while, just not found the time to really drop by. :ugeek: I don't know if...

Good God, is that real? I knew Myers was twisted, but is that real? It is entirely real. I was a fan of Pharyngula since even before it moved to scienceblogs and I remember being shocked by that post at the time. Obviously PZ keeps quiet about it now - but at the time he was clearly promoting this ...

oolon splutters away, finally providing a solid claim about the dastardly deeds of the slymepit. When you meet someone saying PZ endorsed tentacle rape porn on his blog, it comes from the pit. Well, you know what, he's right. I'll quote the entire post from June 20th, where this shocking claim orig...

Incoming blog from Zvan about how the violent Matt Dillahunty threatened to set her on fire in 3... 2... 1... It's Ophelia who does that. Zvan will break his utterances into quantum rubble and re-arrange it into a confession for the Great Chicago Fire. And expect Ophie to emphasize just how "bellig...

deLurch wrote:
Za-zen wrote:In honour of Matt hopefully stopping drinking (and serving the koolaid) i've changed my sig.
Incoming blog from Zvan about how the violent Matt Dillahunty threatened to set her on fire in 3... 2... 1...

Nice :clap:

another lurker wrote:Why isn't anyone talking about algae as a possible future energy resource?

Take it up with Matt - he's the one who thinks that technology is static.

Thank heavens for you, windy . Trading insults with Matt is getting boring. The belief that there is this fixed amount of resources and we're all running out has been around for a long time and it has been always wrong. Maybe we're talking at cross purposes- in ecology, carrying capacity is not some...

Thank heavens for you, windy . Trading insults with Matt is getting boring. The belief that there is this fixed amount of resources and we're all running out has been around for a long time and it has been always wrong. Maybe we're talking at cross purposes- in ecology, carrying capacity is not some...

I pointed out that it has been shown that in terms of raw materials and so forth, our planet can support 1 trillion comfortably. No, some idiot-savant engineer wrote an article in a wanker engineering journal. Nor would any sane person describe a planet-wide Shenzen as "comfortable." You people nee...

windy is a kind and caring woman, look what she did for the 'pit: http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=359 the great population debate has it's own thread now! OK, I went over there to concede my racist agenda and to bow down to the Prussian's superior subscriptions to trade journals inte...

windy is a kind and caring woman, look what she did for the 'pit: http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=359 the great population debate has it's own thread now! OK, I went over there to concede my racist agenda and to bow down to the Prussian's superior subscriptions to trade journals inte...

Pitchguest wrote:I guess it's true. When we're not eating FtB, we're eating eachother.

The Eye of Terror, indeed.

1. In response to this business about "carrying capacity" I pointed out that it has been shown that in terms of raw materials and so forth, our planet can support 1 trillion comfortably. 2. However, no one thinks we will get to 1 trillion. No one even thinks we will get to 100 billion 3. Even the m...

Really? So tell me - what could any person or government in 1913 do about the year 2000? How could they even begin to think in such terms? How could people who had only just seen the invention of stainless steel begin to address a society of mass transport, genetic engineering and the internet? You...

Actually, if you bother to read, I was responding to "another lurker". And I've seen how far attempts to smooth things over go here... it's a little late for that. I'm having fun. Really. No ill will. The only person I have ever really disliked here was Jesse Powell TWRA - and he was an arrogant, i...

No, that was with full intent and I am fully aware that I was taking a cheap shot and associating you with an invidious. However, I am also fed to the bit with one-line replies, deliberate failures to respond rationally or to take any attempt to smooth things over, and don't see any point in trying...

Great idea! "We don't know what will happen in the future.... so fuck it!" Much better than your idea of "lets fuck people right here and now". Tell me Prussian, is this where you are responding to someone other than me, or did you make an error? If so, no problem, I just asked you to show me where...

Not everything is about you. You responded to me directly about my 'idea' to "fuck the poor right now". I didn't make it about me, you did. All you have to say is "My mistake, I have no idea why I attributed that sentiment to you, it was lazy of me, I won't do it again" Actually, if you bother to r...

Oh, and several of your compadres have said in so many words that the poor getting wealth is a Bad Thing. Show me where I have said that? I was merely pointing out the absurdity of your statement. Not everything is about you. You responded to me directly about my 'idea' to "fuck the poor right now"...

You are assuming that everyone who is disagreeing with you has this urgent need to 'fuck the poor'. You never bother to even try to answer my points rationally, why should I bother to respond other than in kind? Oh, and several of your compadres have said in so many words that the poor getting weal...

ThePrussian wrote: You never bother to even try to answer my points rationally, why should I bother to respond other than in kind? Oh, and several of your compadres have said in so many words that the poor getting wealth is a Bad Thing. Because, your strategy, this entire time, has been to claim th...

Great idea! "We don't know what will happen in the future.... so fuck it!" Much better than your idea of "lets fuck people right here and now". You are assuming that everyone who is disagreeing with you has this urgent need to 'fuck the poor'. You never bother to even try to answer my points ration...

There's also another thing here: worrying about what conditions will be like in 2100 today is a complete and utter waste of time. My grandmother of blessed memory, was alive in 1913. You think she could have had any idea of the nature of the world in 2000? With Hitler, Stalin, the rise of communism...

Well lets see now - I place my confidence in human reason and human ability - the triarchy of science, technology and industry that has been responsible for almost all of the great solutions we have found. Whereas you are crying out that we have reached too far, grown too proud and must repent... Y...

From anyone in general or just yourself? I'm not the one who is crossing my fingers and expecting future scientists to magically solve every crisis. What Tulip Eater says is absolutely correct: "Only you've changed God out with "future science and discovery", without taking anything away from the b...

Tulip Eater wrote:
ThePrussian wrote:
Tulip Eater wrote: What in the hell kind of argument is this?
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One that you cannot answer, apparently.
I did answer it, I pointed out exactly where your thinking broke down into utter stupidity..

I think you may have been rereading your own stuff a little too much.

another lurker wrote:
Guest wrote:
ThePrussian wrote:There's only one real resource, and that is human ingenuity.
Hahahaha. Hallmark greeting card rhetoric doesn't make your reasoning more sound.

We have an infinite supply of human stupidity!

From anyone in general or just yourself?

There's also another thing here: worrying about what conditions will be like in 2100 today is a complete and utter waste of time. My grandmother of blessed memory, was alive in 1913. You think she could have had any idea of the nature of the world in 2000? With Hitler, Stalin, the rise of communism...

Well, well, look what I found, peering through the archives of Science : Contrary to predictions from the 1950s through the mid-1980s, persistent shortages of nonfuel minerals have not occurred, despite prodigious consumption, and world reserves have increased. No kidding. Global availability of raw...

There's also another thing here: worrying about what conditions will be like in 2100 today is a complete and utter waste of time. My grandmother of blessed memory, was alive in 1913. You think she could have had any idea of the nature of the world in 2000? With Hitler, Stalin, the rise of communism,...

OK, a few more points despite better judgment... 1. In response to this business about "carrying capacity" I pointed out that it has been shown that in terms of raw materials and so forth, our planet can support 1 trillion comfortably. 2. However, no one thinks we will get to 1 trillion. No one eve...

You still have to get that this particular pool has been pissed in. It is associated with a lot of very nasty stuff - one child policy in China, forced sterilizations in India, the Irish potato famine - and you have to be willing to put a lot of clear blue water between yourself and it if you don't...

Cunning Punt wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:She could try not giving hugs to some guy she has no intention of fucking.
Oh come on. Are you saying that any hug from a woman is a sexual come on? I know I've missed a lot of opportunities over the years, but I never knew it was that many.

Agreed. Hugs =/= sex. Absolutely not.

I bet The Prussian would have something to add on the splendiferous benefits of transporting rare dihydrogen-oxide in plastic containers on diesel-fueled container ships and trucks halfway around the globe, but he appears to have flounced for safer-space pastures. ... Was he this dude? http://www.s...

[quote="Matt Cavanaugh" Prussian, your snap answers sound so definitive in isolation -- except they contradict each other when placed side-by-side, and completely crumble when subjected to the slightest scrutiny of common sense. Population Growth First you say, we totally could support 100 billion p...

Interesting in Loftus' update, he mentioned getting an email from Shermer saying: " if what he said about his accuser gets out, it will be apparent to most all reasonable people that PZ Myers published a bold-faced lie " That's quite fascinating. Shermer sounds bullish about his chances, but I am a...

The real question is: What if we push through measures that do nothing whatsoever to address the problem while simultaneously immiserating the world's poorest, and in many cases, actively starving them to death? Which is what has happened. Look at what happened with biofuels. Look at what happens w...

New development in Shmeargate: From John Loftus' debunking Christianity - and tweeted by Massimo Piggliucci In a personal email to me Shermer categorically denies these accusations. If what he said about his accuser gets out, it will be apparent to most all reasonable people that PZ Myers published...

As a species we do not, primarily, "consume" - that comes after. We produce. You cannot consume that which hasn't been produced. Liberate people from the shackles of superstition and tyranny, and let them use their reason in a free socity - and you will not have to worry about production. You call ...

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