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by greylurker
Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:46 am
Forum: Periodic Table of Swearing - The Undead Thread
Topic: Back to Conspiratoria
Replies: 1529
Views: 62218

Re: Back to Conspiratoria

Hello All, I have lurked here pretty much since it began, never posted much since nearly all of my work - offshore marine cable laying, offshore survey, and making stuff to stick under/in railway locomotives never brought me into places where the politically correct now woke crowd had infected, so h...
by greylurker
Fri Nov 06, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Which brings up the question we should be asking: how shall we vote in the future? Presumably we all want accurate democracy, but should it be in person, by mail, or online? If it were me, I would require accurate electoral roles and in person voting only, where you get your name crossed off the el...
by greylurker
Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:02 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

screwtape wrote:
I'd rather see Sean Connery in the role than that.
He did the bride thing in Zardoz.

Best of luck with the op(s).
by greylurker
Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:30 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Thanks FT!
by greylurker
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

It's back! Last 7 days...

[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/phpbb/template/twig/loader.php on line 19: Declaration of phpbb/template/twig/loader::findTemplate($name) should be compatible with Twig/Loader/FilesystemLoader::findTemplate($name, $throw = true)

... on both latest Firefox and IE8.
by greylurker
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:02 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Hey the pit is fixed. Couldn't log in for days. I've just tried logging in and it tells me that I'm being redirected to somewhere insecure - KiwInOz But I am bloody glad to stop seeing all that crap about php things. Same insecure redirect after logging in here, Firefox latest. Seems fine apart fro...
by greylurker
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:02 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Hey the pit is fixed. Couldn't log in for days. I've just tried logging in and it tells me that I'm being redirected to somewhere insecure - KiwInOz But I am bloody glad to stop seeing all that crap about php things. Same insecure redirect after logging in here, Firefox latest. Seems fine apart fro...
by greylurker
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Hey the pit is fixed. Couldn't log in for days. I've just tried logging in and it tells me that I'm being redirected to somewhere insecure - KiwInOz But I am bloody glad to stop seeing all that crap about php things. Same insecure redirect after logging in here, Firefox latest. Seems fine apart fro...
by greylurker
Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:17 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

No more Syd Mead. Alien, Bladerunner etc.
by greylurker
Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: You is all a bunch of poofs!
Replies: 15882
Views: 9589933

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

3. I didn't know voting is compulsory in Australia. What an interesting idea. It seems to have resulted in a remarkably high percentage of jokers being sent to Canberra. I am in favour of having a very simple and basic course in civics mandatory in high school, and available online at any time of l...
by greylurker
Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:57 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one
Replies: 15734
Views: 1194997

Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them

There are two kinds of skeptics... those who are chasing the 'debunk' so they can cross it of their list, they seem to think this makes them smarter than everyone else, yet they sound idiotic when they are dismissive of mysteries they can't solve. And there are those that enjoy the mystery. Obvious...
by greylurker
Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary
Replies: 21822
Views: 990282

Re: In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

VickyCaramel in post #18128 - "It isn't like they assumed H-Bombs were magic. Although when the bombs fall cities disappear very quickly, but they must have been aware that the manufacture of these bombs would be slow and very costly. They would probably also be aware that the psychological effect w...
by greylurker
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:35 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary
Replies: 21822
Views: 990282

Re: In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

Well that worked.
by greylurker
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:33 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary
Replies: 21822
Views: 990282

Re: In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

Fuck. I fucking fucked the fucker. Will try to fucking fix it. Don't know if this is of use- just tried to log out and got: [phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/phpbb/di/container_builder.php on line 146: require(./cache/production/autoload_4335734bbdd20f586549a504dff5f80c.php): failed to open...
by greylurker
Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:20 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

sp0tlight wrote:(Fuck you HTTP 500)
No problems here! (Microstuffed Internet Explorer 8.0 - no updates).
by greylurker
Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:43 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

One thing I don't get about the US is why you're not required to show some sort of ID before voting. I've been told that not all people have ID, that (for example) poor people don't have a car and so have no driver licence, don't have a passport or a social security card or any other common form of...
by greylurker
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Hey, ya'll here in the pit are piss poor Santa-skeptics! When have any of you tested out the claims of Santaclaus to scientific rigor? Have you exhaustively debunked all of the Santa claims to scientific rigor? I thought not. I read a limited print book in the 1970s by Sydney Uni archaeologists cal...
by greylurker
Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:38 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Sorry to go off on a tangent, but didn't the guy who did the 1/3rd of the holocaust series describe himself as an engineer? It just occured to me as I just watched a Douglas Murray interview where he brought up that Osama bin Laden and some other extremist preacher were engineers. This caught my at...
by greylurker
Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:16 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Bah, ) fell off the link. Let's try again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlo%C3%A9_(artwork)

Anyway, near enough for goverment work.
by greylurker
Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:09 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

http://imgur.com/l1ApkUX.jpg.jpg Can anyone identify that painting that PZ is groping? That's a stunning nude. To try to identify it I did a google image search on ApeLust's picture and got: "best guess for this image: sexism" :lol: As for modern art - hardly anything good has been produced since a...
by greylurker
Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:09 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Phil and Ali, belated congradulations on your French Polishing.

Went to a cousin's daughter's wedding the other day where the splicing was done under an arch of two tractors with the buckets banged together. Good times.
by greylurker
Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:09 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

OK. We can conclude at this point that Windows 10 is not the problem. It is Chrome (for computers {Windows & Linux}, not android) & Microsoft Edge that are at the root of the problem. I tested turning off hardware acceleration in chrome without success. Could be an html5/flash/java/javascript issue...
by greylurker
Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:02 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

I wish I could be surprised that the Australian Bureau of Statistics' website is down. Yes. Earlier in the day I accessed the site , got the 'oops- something is wrong ' page with a *single* link to a terminal page that listed system/browser requirements. Not even a fallback link to request the pape...
by greylurker
Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:59 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Lsuoma wrote:Fuck. Lsuoma has just had a mild stroke. No major impairment, but waiting for more information over the next 48 hours.

\
Best wishes for a quick recovery.
by greylurker
Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:48 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

http://i.imgur.com/X69cq7x.png When I was five or six years old, I got separated from my mother and got lost in a shopping mall. A kindly security guard took me to the area designated for lost children, and comforted me until my mother came and got me. Again, I was six years old. The fact that this...
by greylurker
Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:08 pm
Forum: Every Bleeding Thing Else
Topic: "History" project.
Replies: 33
Views: 6138

Re: "History" project.

Mentioned it back in the unending thread, there are three useful summaries from FreeThought Kampala/James Onen: Elevatorgate (referenced by Aneris): freethoughtkampala.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/elevatorgate/ https://freethoughtkampala.wordpress.com/2011/09/11/elevatorgate/ Elevatorgate part II: freet...
by greylurker
Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:06 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

(The dates posted are embedded in the links).
by greylurker
Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:02 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: The Refuge of the Toads
Replies: 72028
Views: 10842435

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Ive got: Laden dox of Mykeru's ex. Dec 21 2012 Threatening of Griffiths. June 23 or so 2012 But no ERV's workplace threat emails. Ill add that and Hitch. What else? Parsehold dates? PZ trolled by his own comments dates? Maybe the two FreeThought Kampala James Onen summaries: Elevatorgate https://fr...
by greylurker
Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!
Replies: 47526
Views: 2536494

Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

Marvin Minsky dead. Source: wikipedia / new york times.
by greylurker
Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:09 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!
Replies: 47526
Views: 2536494

Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

I am trying to complete a card set. Anyone have a mirror of the Rose St Clair elevatorgate video? Pls? Have it as a downloaded Realplayer flash video (.flv, 9Mb), when it was referenced in Freethought Kampala's excellent Elevatorgate piece. Not online but could try uploading as an attachement if no...
by greylurker
Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:20 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!
Replies: 47526
Views: 2536494

Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

Cunt of Personality wrote:http://i.imgur.com/t4ZrJqG.jpg
Since 'words (and images) can kill', there is going to be a lot of one legged dancers.

/// PIT SAFETY NOTICE - DON'T TRY THIS IN REAL LIFE ///

Sorted.
by greylurker
Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:36 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!
Replies: 47526
Views: 2536494

Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

The SpaceX launch and re-landing was successful. Touched down less than an hour ago. SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket returned to flight Monday, on a mission for communications firm Orbcomm which also resulted in the first return of the vehicle’s first stage to the launch site. Flying in a new “Full Thrust...
by greylurker
Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:28 pm
Forum: Admin and Board Structure
Topic: Pit Going Down for Upgrade Imminently.
Replies: 15
Views: 10050

Re: Pit maintenance this weekend (August 29th or 30th)

Second the 'make sure you backup'.
Thanks for keeping this thing going.
by greylurker
Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:22 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!
Replies: 47526
Views: 2536494

Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

(embedded quotes snipped) I don't really mind that, because ideology aside, I'm all for reasonableness and practicality. For example, men mostly pee in a bar, and a urinal can do a lot more men in an hour than a toilet can do women in an hour. When I used to be (decades ago now it seems) in busy ba...
by greylurker
Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:57 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...
Replies: 47809
Views: 2082902

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

Big lakes create their own weather. And you get a long ship like the EF, or any oil tanker, and they will snap in half like a long, skinny piece of sphaghetti, should they get caught in waves going opposite directions on both ends. I just checked the NOAA site. They're getting 15' waves on Superior...
by greylurker
Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:47 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...
Replies: 47809
Views: 2082902

Re: STFU about Nec_V20. Nobody else gives a crap.

<snip> And surprisingly Nec knows shit bout the realities of air-rifle ballistics, in case anyone else read through his trolly spam like I did....what a prick I can be to myself. And not about hard disk drive Winchester/Whitney flying heads either - from his post 313: When the harddrive is in opera...
by greylurker
Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:20 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...
Replies: 64537
Views: 2720390

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

ob5.JPG Ruined my day. Ruined it. :bjarte: Does this mean that CFI are waking up to the idea that sceptics don't want to talk about Melody Henley. I don't believe it. They were bullied I say Bullied http://history.buses.co.uk/history/name/bulleid.jpg Original unrebuilt version - at least he tried a...
by greylurker
Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:34 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...
Replies: 64537
Views: 2720390

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

<snip> To fail a quote once is unfortunate, to fail twice is carelessness. If you know where I got that quote from you win the nerds prize for this week. <snip> It's in an Oscar Wild play, The Importance of being Ernest. It was in response to a character saying he had lost both parents when he was ...
by greylurker
Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:49 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...
Replies: 64537
Views: 2720390

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

Apologies if this has already been posted: [urlhttp://www.nichegamer.net/2014/10/how-gamergate-gained-my-sympathy/][/url] To fail a quote once is unfortunate, to fail twice is carelessness. If you know where I got that quote from you win the nerds prize for this week. Ok, I'll bite. Ian Fleming's G...
by greylurker
Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:28 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...
Replies: 64537
Views: 2720390

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

<snip> Maybe the simplest thing to do is to relabel all of the public washrooms with images of either a penis or a vagina, and oblige people to use the one that matches their own "equipment" - which of course some 98% of the population already do .... apparently in any case .... Nothing new under t...
by greylurker
Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:10 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Mykeru, what a Cnut, eh? Discuss.
Replies: 19180
Views: 896426

Re: Mykeru, what a Cnut, eh? Discuss.

John D wrote:Any Kate Bush fans out there?!?
At least one. I was expecting to see some kind of catastrophic rupture during that.
by greylurker
Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:21 pm
Forum: FTB Images and Archives
Topic: The Bjarte Foshaug Academy of Stick Pablum
Replies: 171
Views: 54341

Re: The Bjarte Foshaug Academy of Stick Pablum

Great effort Gumby. Thank you. As a result of the assembly, was critical mass achieved? Any long term damage?
by greylurker
Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:48 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Bleeding from the Bunghole
Replies: 32948
Views: 2073529

Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

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by greylurker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:41 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?
Replies: 14707
Views: 990731

Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

Abbie: Virology (ERV, to be precise) John C. Welch: IT Skep Tickle: M.D Barn Owl: Teaching at medical school John Greg: English Literature Steersman: Pain in the ass, Ph.D Phil Giordana: Musician, skydiving instructor Sacha: dog expert, and managing director of Gender Traitors International AndrewV6...
by greylurker
Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:31 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?
Replies: 14707
Views: 990731

Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

Abbie: Virology (ERV, to be precise) John C. Welch: IT Skep Tickle: M.D Barn Owl: Teaching at medical school John Greg: English Literature Steersman: Pain in the ass, Ph.D Phil Giordana: Musician, skydiving instructor Sacha: dog expert, and managing director of Gender Traitors International AndrewV6...
by greylurker
Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:52 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

re: tawny frogmouths: well I'll be damned. But seriously, do they actually just stand like that all the time? Don't they get bored? Yes, during the day they just stand like that. The ones in my photo had chosen an insanely low banksia branch, not the usual gum tree, fortunately the cats didn't spot...
by greylurker
Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:26 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

sacha wrote:for Barn Owl

http://i.imgur.com/Bt5yMwA.jpg

(image is too large to post here)
The above image shows tawny frogmouths in standard camo mode.

This is more the Monty Python 'How not to be seen' version.
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Tawny frogmouths, Perth
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@Phil, my sympathies.
Peter
by greylurker
Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:02 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Oops, should have added the essential *** back up first ***!
by greylurker
Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:56 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Since the Pit has become the Tech help Centre - does anyone know how to deal with that bloody Search Redirect trojan/virus thingy. A simple answer that actually works would be nice. Never had it but a quick google turned up this site: http://www.2-viruses.com/how-to-fix-google-results-hijacker-goog...
by greylurker
Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:03 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Unless you are purchasing a really cheap laptop, I would suggest getting a warranty that lasts the expected life of your laptop in the future. It is one of the rare purchases, where this makes sense. If you want quality, go for Toshiba. Or else you can go cheap and just take the risk that it may po...
by greylurker
Thu May 23, 2013 12:28 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Just got to the final couple of pages of the last few days.
Abbie, my best wishes for you and yours.
Peter
by greylurker
Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:33 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Oops, editor preview whacked out to 404 and on retyping forgot the quote marks - Skep tickle wrote: "Is it just me, or do others see the obelisk as phallic, particularly with it nestled between the words "even deeper", and a woman's photo with sort of come-hither-y expression overlaid on the base......
by greylurker
Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:28 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Skep tickle wrote: Is it just me, or do others see the obelisk as phallic, particularly with it nestled between the words "even deeper", and a woman's photo with sort of come-hither-y expression overlaid on the base... It looked to me as if the head just had a giant spike driven up into the brain - ...
by greylurker
Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:48 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Well, after the crash he can produce the video as evidence...

'blah blah blah *CRUNCH* oh shit my nose...'
by greylurker
Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:30 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Southern wrote: "I walways tought that Pong was created back then when all computers could process in real time was two horizontal bars and a square moving around the screen, and the only game you could reproduce with such advanced resources was Pong. But, what do I know about games?" Most of the te...
by greylurker
Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:50 pm
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Thanks for the welcomes. Odd experience for somebody who has made 'how not to be seen' into an art form. Wonderist wrote: (start quote) Clarke was my favourite for many years, including the time in high school when my friends were trying to get me to read Foundation. My favourite of his at the time,...
by greylurker
Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:15 am
Forum: Past Misdeeds
Topic: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It
Replies: 35689
Views: 3000257

Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

Hi all, to keep mordacious1 happy, have got the pyt to 600. Been lurking here since July 2012, after watching the 'Dear Muslima' thing explode. Thanks for doing the hard yards by preserving the evidence of craziness before it gets memory holed. Liked Asimov's Foundation and Robot stories, but after ...