If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Heyooo... I haven't logged in since forever, but I lurk the hell out of this place every day. Hope it continues, but if not, thanks for everything.

Was Myers' book on Amazon always titled "The Happy Atheist (Vintage)" ? I don't remember "Vintage" being on there before.

Brian Fields seems like a reasonable fellow. As did most of the posters - but nutjob Janice has to barge in and make it all about herself - to the point of going into hysterics because some people actually tried to *help* her. OMG, such misogyny! Since Myers has embraced and re-published her story ...

ERV wrote:Janice Rael is an old timer. IIDB-- Everlasting God Stopper aka ELGS. Glad to see shes still a weirdo.

IIDB?

Also for being "too drunk to remember" (which I believe she left out of her account to Myers) Rael seems to remember it quite well.

The Bar Rape OMG... (sorry if this has been posted before)

From Brian Fields' FB thread https://www.facebook.com/fieldsb/posts/ ... 9083034817

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IF Somehow, if he'd actually admitted to actual rape in some sort of exchange that couldn't be faked without the falsity being detectable, I don't think it would have come out on a blog, rather from a credible news source, as a part of an indictment. All that we've heard is that Shermer makes some ...

The Damning Emails Didn't Myers say his anonymous victim possesses an email exchange between herself and Shermer in which they discuss the "rape"? If those emails existed, wouldn't they take the whole thing past hearsay and into solid evidence - a confession from Shermer himself? Now that would be a...

Yes, and it comes off as disingenuous, very: "We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?".

Whistling past the graveyard... :eusa-whistle:

Melody concludes: "If we're going to be rational, if we're going to be skeptics our first response should be, 'How can I make sure this doesn't happen again?'" Of course. Only a bad skeptic would determine whether something happened at all before setting out to make sure it never "happened" again. F...

FYI, if anyone's interested, Dallas Haugh's facebook announcement of his "imminent demise" is gone.

Myers captured a serial rapist, Canuck got himself a child rapist omg (but, sadly, that fell apart). Now Myers has a Lawyer Letter, Canuck's aiming to get himself at least one*. He's gonna get up on that pedestal and bask in glory with his hero if it's the last thing he does. * Myers only named Sher...

From just after Ed Clint's debunking of Watson's EP speech: https://twitter.com/pzmyers/status/275406942699139072 Seems relevant today. Obviously Myers & his fellow FTBers accusing Shermer can't deny their personal history, personal vendettas and associations, but have they mentioned them? If I unde...

Whatever else is going on, it's astonishing to me that anyone thinks Myers and Canuck and McCreight and Tumblr spreading (and soliciting) unsubstantiated gossip and rumors about members of the atheist community is somehow going to "change the culture" and make the world a safer place for women. It j...

Well, I will give Thibadobebe points for meaning well and having his heart in the right place (and I really mean that BTW), but that is about it. Perhaps he was a bit too credulous in the first place? That's very charitable and maybe accurate, but I sense more of a variant of Oppression Olympics. M...

Freezepage with comments. The thread vanished minutes after that last one. :D
http://www.freezepage.com/1376281016TXKDVFJVZX

I wouldn't be surprised if something's already happened that Myers isn't making public yet even to his own supporters. Something along the lines of being fired from his job, accused of sexual misconduct, or named in a lawsuit. Maybe all of the above! He's building up his Internet Defense in advance:...

And the review for 'The God Delusion': Dawkins, eminent Oxford scholar, defender of evolution (The Ancestorâ€™s Tale, 2004) and spokesman for science (Unweaving the Rainbow, 1998), delivers ten chapters arguing the non-existence of god, along with documentation of the atrocities religions have wroug...

Kirkus review of 'The Happy Atheist' now visible to non-subscribers https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/pz-myers/the-happy-atheist/ This series of scattershot attacks on all varieties of religion suggests that it's as pointless to argue with a true nonbeliever as it is with a true believer. ...

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This is excellent! Itty bitty typo in paragraph 5 (unless it's a Lolcat what snuck in) "I has also spoken hatefully of some people..."

Wouldn't there be some sort of conflict of interests if Hensley signed, as she's a memeber of the board? TheMan: I am the cat's scratching post. Edina Monsoon quoted this earlier (#27816), though not quite sure where it came from: (Out of deference to those who are already dealing with a difficult ...

I'm generally content to lurk but after the lovely AbFab video posted earlier today I'll peek out for just a moment to say High. :) Have sent my Lindsay supporting letters to CFI, one right after WIS2, another after SkepTickle's doxxing. Rec'd a friendly reply from Tom Flynn, just an acknowledgement...

Reapercussions

Jennifer McCreight Jennifer McCreight â€@jennifurret .@mdburnes Thank you so much. I still hope I can be a good role model, even without associating with official movements or groups https://twitter.com/jennifurret/status/297076013333102592 Given that there's also no mention of A+ in her FTB blogp...

Boooo! Don't go to skeptic/atheist cons! There are infested with upskirt photographers and rapists roaming the hallways and women aren't safe without male escorts! Boooo! Don't go to DragonCon because PEDOPHILIA! Boooo! Beware of atheist/skeptical gatherings in general because of that famous male sp...

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"...but enough about me. Let's talk about you! How do you feel about me?"

And now for something completely different...

Throwing panties at men. It's a girl thing.

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Setar's Ideal World... (from the 'What is socialism and how would it work?' thread on A+) in a socialist society your ability to live doesn't hinge on having a job. That's really a capitalist-society mentality, since everything is a competition. In a socialist society your basic needs are provided f...

I gotta say that when I read Benson blithely stomping all over genuine victims of assault just to shove them out of the way and grab the center stage, make it all about her and her petty little Internet squabbles, I was so furious I could easily have said something I'd regret. I had to get off the c...

I wonder if Watson agrees with Dillahunty and others that whether or not she made up the whole Elevator story is irrelevant. Someone should ask her this. Not via twitter or social media or magazine interview but live in front of the cameras, with no Myers or Plait or any other white knight around t...

I wonder if Watson agrees with Dillahunty and others that whether or not she made up the whole Elevator story is irrelevant. Someone should ask her this. Not via twitter or social media or magazine interview but live in front of the cameras, with no Myers or Plait or any other white knight around to...

FTR and because I feel like just fucking venting, Greta Christina can kiss my ever-loving, eternal ass. My guy is going to have part of his fucking tongue removed on the 25th. This is along with removing the mass on his neck and doing a throat camera look. Somehow, I'm thinking there aren't shoes o...

Skep tickle wrote:All righty then. Can someone please work either "lady-science" or, if that seems too forced, "lady science" into a comment at PZ, Zvan, or Benson's blogs at FtB, and report back on how it's received?

"Who's your favorite lady-science hero?" would be an awesome topic for an AtheismPlus thread.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/3018/ Jay: "Have you been following whatâ€™s happening with A+ and the atheismplus.com forums?" Richard Carrier: "No. (Except peripherally.)" :doh: That's fair dinkum unbelievable ! And yet just a few posts later: Richard Carrier: Anyone who is writing w...

Michael Shermer says: To date, I have stayed out of this witch hunt against our most prominent leaders, thinking that â€œthis too shall pass.â€ Perhaps I should have said something earlier. As Martin Niemoller famously warned about the inactivity of German intellectuals during the rise of the Nazi...

Oops. That was me. ^

Who is/are your lady-science ... heroes and why? Wouldn't that be considered insanely sexist if not outright misogynist if anyone else said it? Sexism seems to require some stereotyping and discrimination. I think that simply acknowledging that there are, or have been, some, many actually, top â€œl...

Who is/are your lady-science ... heroes and why?

Wouldn't that be considered insanely sexist if not outright misogynist if anyone else said it?

I did a quick rant, because, even though I've been asking Watson supporters this question since way back during Elevatorgate, none have yet to give me a satisfactory answer. ElevatorGuy Question - Still Unanswered Thank you! That's been my question too. She doesn't recognize faces and yet she knows...

Al Stefanelli wrote:Adam Lee's Redundant Petition of Redundant Redundancy

Brilliant, well done!

If I were a person of [desired skin tone], I'd go to conventions with a "Hello, My Name Is Diversity" name tag because that's all anyone would see me as anyway, the way they talk. A T-shirt would be more effective, but I wouldn't want to make the privileged white wimmenz cry.

We support making the atheist movement more diverse and inclusive. http://i.imgur.com/KAUdK.jpg Yeah, check out that blinding white mayo-eating diversity. Women sitting on the floor in the back of the room, is that misogyny? Or if the men in the chairs up front had offered them their seats, would t...

How nice that Slymepit got Teh Third Wave Of Atheism(tm) off its collective arse to do something good. The prettiest car in the world goes nowhere without an engine. :dance:

Stephanie Zvan wrote:This idea that I should stop drinking, thoughâ€“thatâ€™s toxic.

Wow, that's just what my ex used to say, and so did his drinkin' buddies. They all managed to avoid that toxicity and are all dead now. RIP.

Thanks, Skep, and everyone else. However, unlike my neurological and other disabilities, I'm afraid this one's completely on me. I've been a heavy smoker for nearly forty years, and although I cannot do much to reverse the damages I've done to my lungs, I sure as shit can stop it from getting worse...

BTW, in 1 day getting 13% of the goal at Operation Smile ain't bad. Not bad at all :) Now my task is to get that fundraising link out there as much as possible (without pissing people off). Thanks for putting this up. I've donated to them before but this has even more impact. Atheism+ is jumping on...

Re "Up Drunk and Personal with Rebecca Watson" Watson says... We had talked about that on Skepchick actually because we had found that a blogger was criticizing the way some women were dressed at a conference and I think the point on Skepchick was made that yeah, let's, you know, yeah she didn't dre...

My post on Greta Christina's hypocrisy - http://beliefblower.com/Greta-Christinas-New-Hypocrisy-Shoes 2. She claimed to have stage 1 cancer and that it luckily got cleared up right away. Didn't miss any income except maybe 3-4 weeks (doesn't her job give her any sick- days?) so the donations adding...

Oh, my head. Didn't Dillahunty say something along the lines of "If you don't like the rules, don't go to the convention" - ? WTF is wrong with that, then? Watson didn't attend TAM. Anyone else who doesn't feel "safe and welcome" can stay home too. Greta Christina, PZ Myers, S.Amy, Dillahunty, all o...

I'm a few pages behind, so this may have been already corrected, but I want to get this out before I move on: Regarding Matt Dillahunty, a couple points: 1) he seems to be quite the prima donna. I caught the start of a TAE show once, where he was yelling and screaming at the production crew, and br...

Dear Atheism Plus: Have you read McCreight's tweets at all? She didn't say she's bailing out because of the 'bad' people, with you being the 'good' people. She's sick of atheists, "even liberal ones." Are you an atheist? Are you a liberal atheist? She is sick of you. Yes, you. YOUUUUUUUU. She quit w...

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