If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

I used to read Pharyngula when I was sent there by a link, but it never really grabbed me. Myer's style was always a bit too much snark and not enough substance. Had very much an air of self-congratulation about it. I didn't pay it much mind until The Event though.

Is there any proof that this supposed Dawkins outburst of September 2011 actually happened? Beyond the single account of someone who clearly has an agenda against him. I literally cannot imagine him speaking in this fashion. Even if this story isn't just SkepChick agitprop, can people really be cons...

Still watching the Richard Carrier car crash.... his ideas about black atheists (at ~24:00) are cringeworthy. Apparently, there is a list of concerns (inner city poverty etc.) which black atheists are supposed to care about, seperate from the ones white atheists are supposed to care about. Maybe he...

Its just hit me. I know what is going on with the SJWs like Carrier when they talk about different groups having collective interests - it is good old fashioned, Leninist, Democratic Centralism You don't get to have a personal opinion.You have to take your concerns to representatives of your socioec...

Still watching the Richard Carrier car crash.... his ideas about black atheists (at ~24:00) are cringeworthy. Apparently, there is a list of concerns (inner city poverty etc.) which black atheists are supposed to care about, seperate from the ones white atheists are supposed to care about. Maybe he ...

Richard Carrier's Atheism Plus speech has been uploaded to Youtube. I wonder, was the conference policy violated with this one? Lol. Anyway...I am listening now. This is such a great gift. [youtube]au2i3xxgv7U[/youtube] I watched the entire lot of that expecting a lulz pay-off to come at some point...

Given how bad I suck at punctuation, I'm so glad I'm a physicist not a writer.

I've sometimes wondered if that is all we're doing, driving cash into their pockets and providing exposure. Yes, we are. But I feel if we stop they will become more of a menace to the AS community and that's more important to me. However, I largely ignore A+ now as they are irrelevant, I just go th...

If any of you want to read something unrelated to Drama, I offer my latest blog post on science advocacy: http://edgepenguin.com/content/sciad.html Thanks for the read. The UK is focusing on economically driven advocacy, such as the extra funding for Graphene (which was discovered in the UK but not...

If any of you want to read something unrelated to Drama, I offer my latest blog post on science advocacy:

http://edgepenguin.com/content/sciad.html

Wow. Another one to go into the museum - though at this rate, it's beginning to look more like Ellenbeth's padded cell. Did she really 'shop a gay man to make it look like he had full-blown AIDS? Fuck, that's sick. Just remember, we're the bad guys. :lol: The goodness of a persons actions are irrel...

ReneeHendricks wrote:ROFLMAO! Sometimes Melody Hensley is the "gift that keeps on giving":

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I googled 'stress injury' - all I got were links about RSI.

Is she saying that all the professional victim blog posts she made have fucked her wrists?

Every time they get someone to back down, and write a sanctimonious victory blog, I am reminded of the final chapter of 1984, where Winston Smith finally realising he 'loved Big Brother'

Fairly standard A+ stuff, but still a good example of the feminist kafkatrap: Christo930 starts a thread to talk about post-apocalyptic fiction and fails to respond to a post from a female poster or to show sufficient interest in books by female authors. Predictably depressing results. starts here:...

Just noticed this: http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3995&start=25 Dearest Wind; Fuck off and die. That goes for both you and your informaint. You are trampling upon the personal security and safety of the people who relied on that secret forum as a place to share delicate and perso...

Aaaand capitulate it is! But that's not enough for Kassiane, who breaks out the training bit to put in his mouth: Re: British family told to send daughter to Hindu school Post by Kassiane Â» Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:21 am I withdraw my previous comment. I wasn't distinguishing between racism in the vern...

Look at this image that Will included in his most recent response to Harriet Hall. Just look at it for awhile: http://skepchick.org/wp-content/uploads/url-3.jpeg Dunno about you, but I'm thinking crop circles. Surely we can add a few to this. http://www.alstefanelli.com/genderglyphs.jpg If my cock ...

The latest A+ fail has delivered again: http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3995&p=70991#p71005 "Use our redefinition of racism or get booted" http://www.alstefanelli.com/youwill.jpg The best part? Here's the definition of racism FROM THEIR GLOSSARY: discrimination or social prejudic...

The latest A+ fail has delivered again: http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3995&p=70991#p71005 "Use our redefinition of racism or get booted" http://www.alstefanelli.com/youwill.jpg The Force has a strong effect on the week minded. Meanwhile, we cackle like Jabba at their tricks.

The latest A+ fail has delivered again:

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 991#p71005

"Use our redefinition of racism or get booted"

Gefan wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:Look at this image that Will included in his most recent response to Harriet Hall. Just look at it for awhile:

http://skepchick.org/wp-content/uploads/url-3.jpeg
If you can pronounce the symbols you summon Cthulhu.

Either that, or its the Stargate address for the planet these people live on.

Amusement to be had at A+ where Hyperdeath the site admin dared to go against the party line by claiming that "reverse racism" can happen. This has NOT gone down well with the faithful, including two of the mods. Expect a grovelling retraction soon. Do they really think that a white kid getting bea...

Are you allowed to recurse gender identity? I.e. be a man trapped in the body of a woman that is trapped in the body of a man? If so, then the steepest-ascent-to-victimhood algorithm employed by Atheism+ers could lead to a queerness leak, eventually consuming all of their self-righteousness and caus...

I have finally managed to get myself on the Block Bot blacklist (I feel I should've been in there from the start, having featured on #blocksaturday before the bot was born) Its easier to provke @aratina into doing it than to get @ool0n too - the latter just ignores any argument, tries to talk down t...

Jack wrote:Just to add what she said was 'rape is rape'. Useless on it's own.

Sounds like a (more) rape-y version of Ayn Rand.

Now I remember why I unsubbed from tooltime9901 years ago. [youtube]wvjlwmJ4pUc[/youtube] Is that Zinnia Jones' brother? Watch his mouth movements. If his mouth moves, then it's not ZJ. He actually seems fairly reasonable to me, but yeah I suppose his mouth movements are a bit odd. Probably a conse...

So.. 1. Brain imaging isn't proper science. 2. Examining your own feelings is. Gotcha :doh: Straw man/men/happy army, anyone? I'm done with this thread of conversation. No problem, but if you think I am making a strawman, maybe you should read your own posts more carefully before submitting them: I...

Are you able to phrase your objection in a manner that is not reliant on pointing out resultant behaviour , but instead on concentrating on urges that may or may not precipitate such? I linked to a study of brain imagining of subjects playing the ultimatum game. That isn't measuring behavior, that ...

Are you able to phrase your objection in a manner that is not reliant on pointing out resultant behaviour , but instead on concentrating on urges that may or may not precipitate such? I linked to a study of brain imagining of subjects playing the ultimatum game. That isn't measuring behavior, that ...

Michael K Gray wrote:
EdgePenguin wrote:... humans routinely behaving in a way...
There you go again, missing my entire thesis.
Sheesh!
How much more plain can I make it that it is NOT about sodding behaviour?

I understand perfectly what you are saying, I'm trying to convince you that it is framed in the wrong way.

So basically you get out of the fact that evidence doesn't support your model of humanity by categorising any behavior that does not fit that model as extrinsic? Do you even have any evidence suggesting that the output of our brains can be divided such? Seems pretty obvious. Altruistic acts are usu...

Selfishness requires an expression of desires... This is exactly where we differ. You only have to ask a child the difference between feeling selfish internally, and expressing it externally. Are you deliberately trying to be obtuse? It certainly seems that way. I am not being obtuse. A person is n...

I do not accept that studies of human behavior are irrelevant to the understanding of human behavior. We may have to agree to differ. It may be that we differ in that I am most definitely NOT talking about behaviour ! No. No way, JosÃ©! That is absolutely vital to my original contention. I am refer...

Oh, that was a stupid thing I did with the quotes. Curse the lack of an edit button!

So basically you get out of the fact that evidence doesn't support your model of humanity by categorising any behavior that does not fit that model as extrinsic? Do you even have any evidence suggesting that the output of our brains can be divided such? Mmm... interesting question. Lemme research i...

I agree they aren't far left radicals in the usual sense (hence my aside about Marx). Any good Bolshie would eat them for breakfast. In theory you could have a non-authoritarian communist, but it never seems to last in the real world. Any ideology that does not account the startlingly clear evoluti...

I agree they aren't far left radicals in the usual sense (hence my aside about Marx). Any good Bolshie would eat them for breakfast. In theory you could have a non-authoritarian communist, but it never seems to last in the real world. Any ideology that does not account the startlingly clear evoluti...

Ha! no chance, I'm working for The Man atm, only a fool would have bought a dairy herd in the last 10 years or so with production costs above sales costs. It's only the very rich and the aristocracy who dairy now in Britain...although things may change in the near future in which case i'll look aga...

Why do I get the feeling that the A+ forum doesn't have so many people celebrating their life choices?

I LOVE MY JOOOB!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! If Jen hates it so much and feels so 'trapped', she really should just quit. Science isnt a job you should do if you dont love it. Like I said on that last podcast, we just dont make enough money for it to be the kind of job you just do for a paycheck. ...

You know, there's an easy way to not get blocked for @-messaging the FTB/A+/Skepchicks dorks. don't @-message them. Really. Which sounds nifty until you realize that Oolon and Aratina are going through places like here to gather up Twitter names. So, it won't matter if you've tweeted them or not. T...

Angry_Drunk wrote:
So you created an account to parody a bunch of thin-skinned children and they acted like thin-skinned children.

Shocking.

Yeah, I should probably have seen that one coming :)

You know, there's an easy way to not get blocked for @-messaging the FTB/A+/Skepchicks dorks. don't @-message them. Really. Which sounds nifty until you realize that Oolon and Aratina are going through places like here to gather up Twitter names. So, it won't matter if you've tweeted them or not. H...

You know, there's an easy way to not get blocked for @-messaging the FTB/A+/Skepchicks dorks. don't @-message them. Really. I know, I know it was a dumbarse move, (I'm known for them) but there are certain levels of smug that really do need addressing. Even if a, very small, sacrifice has to be mad...

[spoiler] Caught you hoggling, Kabuki-face! :D http://i.imgur.com/uKto08v.png But rest assurred, o vacuous soul of the pomo skeptical movement, no rumours will get started about this. Really, you're not that important. However much you may think otherwise. That was sort-of obvious, it was surprisin...

Caught you hoggling, Kabuki-face! :D http://i.imgur.com/uKto08v.png But rest assurred, o vacuous soul of the pomo skeptical movement, no rumours will get started about this. Really, you're not that important. However much you may think otherwise. That was sort-of obvious, it was surprising to see p...

"Why do the privileged love going camping? Because tents are fucking magic." Even their jokes are full of shit. Reached page 6 of the A+ jokes thread. Stunned to find the camping joke there: http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1651&start=125#p63790 Metalogic42, I thought you'd made i...

I wonder if people asked to denounce the Slympit can point to this conversation to convince the "other side" that this place isn't a giant uniformity of (hateful) opinion? I suppose that the evidence of that has been around all along, and hasn't convinced them thus far...

You're mistaken in attributing prudery to us, Cowherd. The aesthetics boundaries of satire should be drawn by the context in which it operates while keeping in mind the political goals one is trying to achieve. Therefore, attacking someone's physical appearance isn't off-limit in an absolute sense....

Thanks guys. There has been plenty of mentions of A+ being dead in the water, but it occured to me, the only sign of it I have seen is that forum. The celebrites and 'leaders' of our movement were really talking it up at one point. I wasn't even sure that the A+ forum was the official forum... for ...

Is people asking deliberately dumb questions supposed to be some subtle debate technique or something? https://twitter.com/somegreybloke/status/294408108703363072 That conversation didn't go anywhere did it? It was like watching two slugs trying to open a jam jar. Bravo Peter. I think I did the bes...

Is people asking deliberately dumb questions supposed to be some subtle debate technique or something? https://twitter.com/somegreybloke/status/294408108703363072 That conversation didn't go anywhere did it? It was like watching two slugs trying to open a jam jar. Bravo Peter. I think I did the bes...

Libertarians are usually very socially liberal, so I guess it's the narcissism of small differences? Either that or because most SJWs are Marxist/Socialist? I think it's mostly Penn Jillette's fault actually. He is everything they hate. Penn Jillette is not, to be fair, a great skeptic. One episode...

Here it is for the FfTBophobics: http://www.freezepage.com/1358999299QHHEXOULQJ Again, if thats the only thing I have to blog about, its time to shut down the blog. Why does she think anyone cares? ... Well what do you expect? A+ former moderator, maiforpeace, told a guy to piss off from the forum ...

Is people asking deliberately dumb questions supposed to be some subtle debate technique or something?

Perhaps some of the UK lot have heard of Helen Lewis of the New Statesman. For those that haven't - she's a feminist writer - she actually appeared on one of those online hangout/debates on 'online misogyny' with Rebecca Watson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt7xzUUX3UY Anyway, turns out she was r...

"The harassers" It doesn't matter if Melody sends a tweet which is (arguably by their definition) harassing - because she is a Good Person. Furthermore, it doesn't matter what any of us sends to Melody or Rebecca or Amy, because we are "the harassers". This is the fundamental core of their politics:...

Somegreybloke versus Melody: https://twitter.com/somegreybloke/status/293881466503434240 The irony is that SGB is clearly one of them. He makes constant jokes about 'oppressed white people' and has made videos promoting feminism. He is obviously a fan of Watson otherwise wouldn't have seen the tweet...

Twatson : This is srsly how ridiculous and petty the people who bug us nonstop are: http://bit.ly/URJDCC Why'd I ever assume Sara Mayhew was smart? LOL @ Twatson calling someone else stupid. Not that Im not saying Rebecca Watson is dumb. I dont think shes stupid. All Im saying, is that if Rebecca W...

[spoiler] This still doesn't make much sense. The only people who can do this policing are those who are familiar with the subject area. Courses are monitored for quality externally, which should effect whether students choose to study there. Research work is at risk of not being published or cited...

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