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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:21 pm

Lsuoma wrote: Just tried to watch the debate. Made me want to kill everyone.

On the bright side, TIffany Trump never looked better.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:04 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Ardern? Another overly woke young socialist.

Probably she’s fit for her times.
Face it Boomer, you're a grumpy old has been who shouts at clouds.
You get to a point when you’ve seen all the bullshit. And more is simply ... more.

But clouds? I can never get enough of them.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:24 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Ardern? Another overly woke young socialist.

Probably she’s fit for her times.
Face it Boomer, you're a grumpy old has been who shouts at clouds.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by dog puke » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:16 pm

Lsuoma wrote: Just tried to watch the debate. Made me want to kill everyone.
Yep... it's real projectile vomit territory.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:09 pm

Ardern? Another overly woke young socialist.

Probably she’s fit for her times.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:06 pm

Keating wrote: And people think mass shootings in the US are totally inexplicable.
So Trump was not trying to stop mail in ballots, rather he was trying to stop people going postal.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Keating » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:02 pm

And people think mass shootings in the US are totally inexplicable.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:29 pm

Just tried to watch the debate. Made me want to kill everyone.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:32 pm

"Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe declassified intelligence on Tuesday that suggests Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign had created a plan in July 2016 to frame then-candidate Donald Trump for Russian hacking — at least according to Russian intelligence."
Chairman Graham,
SEP 2 9 2020
In response to your request for Intelligence Community (IC) information related to the
Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) Crossfire Hurricane Investigation, I have declassified the
following:

• In late July 2016, U.S. intelligence agencies obtained insight into Russian intelligence
analysis alleging that U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had approved a
campaign plan to stir up a scandal against U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump
by tying him to Putin and the Russians' hacking of the Democratic National
Committee. The IC does not know the accuracy of this allegation or the extent to
which the Russian intelligence analysis may reflect exaggeration or fabrication.

• According to his handwritten notes, former Central Intelligence Agency Director
Brennan subsequently briefed President Obama and other senior national security
officials on the intelligence, including the "alleged approval by Hillary Clinton on
July 26, 2016 of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald
Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services."

• On 07 September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral
to FBI Director James Corney and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence
Peter Strzok regarding "U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's approval of a
plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers
hampering U.S. electio
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/me ... -FINAL.pdf

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Keating » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:57 pm

I generally don't like any politicians - for the last two Federal elections here, I've cast informal ballots because there's no good pick between Labor, Greens or Liberals, and there's no chance my vote would matter (which is why I have still voted formally in the Senate - it matters there). For the ACT election in progress, my hatred for Andrew Barr may mean I actually vote for the Liberal Party, but it will be after I exhaust all the more tolerable minor parties (and many of the minor parties are worse than the Greens). I'm not particularly plugged in to New Zealand politics, just like I couldn't tell you what's happening in the Tasmanian legislator, so my impressions are based on the few odd stories I'd read over the last few years, rather than exhaustive study.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:16 pm

Keating wrote: I'm not a huge fan of Ardern. Even prior to the lockdown, I found her too authoritarian.
I'm also predisposed to automatically dislike anyone the media tries to tell me is brilliant because of their identity, in this case a pussy, grabbed or otherwise.
It seems to be a matter of perspective, because I don't see her as authoritarian. What criteria do you apply, and how do other politicians measure up?

The media latched onto her at first because she was an attractive and compelling breath of fresh air compared to the trad blue suit brigade. She showed real empathy and humanity for people doing it tough (including being massacred) and it appears that some would rather she rubbed salt into wounds.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Fegg » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:04 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: What I found interesting in all of that is that he was saying that women will let you do anything, even grab them by the pussy, if you are rich and powerful enough. People with an axe to grind fixated on "Trump grabs women by the pussy". They didn't address the truth claim in his statement.
It is an overstatement. But sexual boundary crossing by high status men is as common as it is precisely because it very often works and it very rarely backfires badly. I can understand some of the reasons against victim blaming in individual cases, but at the population level it makes sense to say that if more than 1% of women made a big stink about the behaviour at the time then the behaviour would be seriously disincentivized.

Complaining years later has much less disincentive effect.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Keating » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:01 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Be fair! It is difficult to do anything when the civil service is undermining you and the opposition's only concern is stopping you from governing.
That's kinda my point. Let Trump fail on his own merits, and I'd have no concerns. If he's as bad as he's made out to be, that would be the outcome. Heck, it might even have led to some really good things for the US, like Congress taking back a lot of the powers its delegated to the executive. (A similar argument could be made for the Supreme Court). The weaponising the intelligence services against a political opponent is more of the sort of norm busting that I'd care about, if I were a citizen, then shitposting on Twitter at 4 in the morning. Or some bureaucrat thinking that their idea of what policy should be is more important than the actual elected official who holds the power to set the policy. I'd have just liked a bit more swamp draining - all those government departments should have been purged. (Given the number of open communists I know work for the Australian public service, I have a similar desire to see that done here.) An eleven hour executive order isn't good enough.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Keating » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:49 pm

I'm not a huge fan of Ardern. Even prior to the lockdown, I found her too authoritarian.
I'm also predisposed to automatically dislike anyone the media tries to tell me is brilliant because of their identity, in this case a pussy, grabbed or otherwise.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:57 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:39 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:26 pm
Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?
Have you guys tried turning Ardern off altogether and putting her back in the box?
Why would we want to do that?
You probably don't, but I'd consider it a personal favour.
Show me on this doll where Jacinda touched your humanity.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:56 pm

fuzzy wrote: It seems especially disingenuous for a slimepitter to pretend that a joking like " grab em by the pussy" spoken in jest to an ostensible friend in a locker room, is some kind of big deal.
What I found interesting in all of that is that he was saying that women will let you do anything, even grab them by the pussy, if you are rich and powerful enough. People with an axe to grind fixated on "Trump grabs women by the pussy". They didn't address the truth claim in his statement.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:34 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:39 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:26 pm
Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?
Have you guys tried turning Ardern off altogether and putting her back in the box?
Why would we want to do that?
You probably don't, but I'd consider it a personal favour.
You're welcome.
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:39 am

Hunt wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:43 am
Service Dog wrote: I think this tax return thing will be like that. Trump's tax returns are an even-older story than Russia. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is the silver bullet that gets him. I haven't looked past the headlines yet.
There's no way this or any other integrity-related theme will bring him down in the eyes of his supporters. Pussy grabbing was a momentary speed bump; do you think tax avoidance, legal or illegal, will have any impact? His supporters already hate taxes, particularly federal taxes. It may boost the opposition enough to oust him, I don't know.

It's just the same old same old. I recall going to a left wing political rally and being heckled by right wing homeless persons. These were people who would never be served by the system, never achieve the American capitalist dream and who probably would never realize that the very system they were holding out for was gradually killing them. Fantasy is more powerful than reality. It's why people worship kings and queens and don't dismember and eat them. In general, of course. If the charade breaks down, that's when heads roll and Mussolini gets hung like a pork carcass.
How is this integrity related? Do you think all of the other real estate developers out there are volunteering to overpay? The tax regime is set up to encourage property development and is an issue for legislation. Perhaps his supporters care about what he actually does in office rather than what others think of his manner or "integrity". Should they vote for someone who tells them they are worthy of work and brings back jobs or someone who tells them their jobs will never come back and insults them? Would you vote Biden? If so, you seem willing to ignore the stench of corruption that's followed him and his family throughout his career, his obvious unfitness for office and his habit of lying. How about the collusion to undermine a democratically elected president? If you do support Biden then it's because you think he is going to do things you want to happen despite his baggage. Don't piss on the great unwashed for doing the same. The Democrat Party keeps making the same mistake,not understanding why people support Trump and reject their policies. It seems to be dawning on Americans that the Democrats treat minorities like their pets, down at heel and fed scare stories to keep them voting left. Their "silver bullets" don't work, not least because Trump isn't a werewolf. Speaking of integrity, the bigger story here should be the illegal violation of privacy, which is a serious offence.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:18 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:39 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:26 pm
Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?
Have you guys tried turning Ardern off altogether and putting her back in the box?
Why would we want to do that?
You probably don't, but I'd consider it a personal favour.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:12 am

Hunt wrote: Sure, just laugh at the kid.

One of the dumbest movies, ever, IMO.

I wrote a script for a remake, nevertheless. My version would only run about fifteen minutes, but ends with a big bang.
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:16 am

Keating wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:57 pm
I don't think Trump deserves a second term, because he's lazy and hasn't actually done very much. Indeed, the worst thing about Trump is how normal a president he is.

The democrats, however, can never be allowed power in their current state. Holy crap they are terrifying.


Be fair! It is difficult to do anything when the civil service is undermining you and the opposition's only concern is stopping you from governing. That said, he has done quite a bit. He's cut back some of the tangle of statutes his predecessors grew, he's brought blue collar jobs back to the country and focused attention on China, he lowered unemployment quite a lot, brokered some peace deals, put a brake on the military adventurism, built some border wall and not least, burst some of Pelosi's blood vessels. I'm sure he's done quite a bit else but very few in the media will broadcast any of his achievements. For a "normal" president he seems to have managed to get an awful lot of the swamp monkeys after him. He would undoubtedly have cleaned up a lot more of the corruption and overreach of the intelligence/security establishment but the bastards took out the man who was going to do it before he could get going.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:32 am

fuzzy wrote: It seems especially disingenuous for a slimepitter to pretend that a joking like " grab em by the pussy" spoken in jest to an ostensible friend in a locker room, is some kind of big deal.
Aren't you forgetting something? Like his "base", which includes evangelicals.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:53 am

It seems especially disingenuous for a slimepitter to pretend that a joking like " grab em by the pussy" spoken in jest to an ostensible friend in a locker room, is some kind of big deal.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:52 am

It seems especially disingenuous for a slimepitter to pretend that a joking like " grab em by the pussy" spoken in jest to an ostensible friend in a locker room, is some kind of big deal.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:47 am

Can't we at least get the input box to automatically scroll to the bottom? It's not like I'm asking for an edit button.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:45 am

Shit, someone stop me.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:44 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:26 pm
Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?
Hmm, this give me an idea. I wonder if Amazon would still take back Trump.
Have you guys tried turning Ardern off altogether and putting her back in the box?
Why would we want to do that?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:43 am

Service Dog wrote: I think this tax return thing will be like that. Trump's tax returns are an even-older story than Russia. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is the silver bullet that gets him. I haven't looked past the headlines yet.
There's no way this or any other integrity-related theme will bring him down in the eyes of his supporters. Pussy grabbing was a momentary speed bump; do you think tax avoidance, legal or illegal, will have any impact? His supporters already hate taxes, particularly federal taxes. It may boost the opposition enough to oust him, I don't know.

It's just the same old same old. I recall going to a left wing political rally and being heckled by right wing homeless persons. These were people who would never be served by the system, never achieve the American capitalist dream and who probably would never realize that the very system they were holding out for was gradually killing them. Fantasy is more powerful than reality. It's why people worship kings and queens and don't dismember and eat them. In general, of course. If the charade breaks down, that's when heads roll and Mussolini gets hung like a pork carcass.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:39 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:26 pm
Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?
Have you guys tried turning Ardern off altogether and putting her back in the box?
Why would we want to do that?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:33 am

Fucked that one up. first paragraph:

Why doesn't he just release his records freely so we don't have to rely on the NYT. More importantly, why do we have to belatedly find out he has massive debt obligations that might compromise the integrity of his office?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:32 am

Service Dog wrote:
screwtape wrote: if he really only paid $750 in taxes for two of the last ten years, his reasons for staying in power are more to do with financial gain and staving off prosecution than because he is a power-hungry would-be dictator.
Why doesn't he just release his records freely so we don't have to rely on the NYT. More importantly, why do we have to belatedly find out he has massive debt obligations that might compromise the integrity of his office?

I think you were lied-to about Trump's taxes. I think you should direct your contempt-- at those who lied to you.

According to Breitbart-- Trump paid $1 Million in taxes in 2016, and $4.2 Million in 2017. He paid that money up-front. He doesn't get it back, except it's considered a pre-payment against future years' taxes.

The tax system allows Trump to subtract deductions from his tax bill. For example the purchase-price of residential real estate is deduct-able. But that deduction must be spread over 27.5 years... not taken all in one year.

For example: if Trump bought a house for $27,479,375-- (just under 27 Million bucks)... then Trump could subtract not-quite-a-million dollars from his taxes every year... for 27.5 years... and just owe $750 per year. (if his annual pre-deduction tax bill was a million bucks. which it was, in 2016.)

If you-- or the NY Times-- think the US tax system is a Scandal-- and it should operate differently-- fine, shout it from the rooftops.

But if you think Trump paying his taxes in the ordinary, mandated way-- is newsworthy, a bombshell, disqualifying Trump from his position of power-- then you're deluded. The New York Times is trying to influence an election by exploiting public ignorance of tax codes. It's a dirty trick. Only tax accountants are paid to learn the ins-and-outs of tax law. The rest of us rely on the fucking New York Times to give us a truthful summary.

Much more detail about Trump's taxes, here:
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/ ... -nonsense/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:18 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Sure, just laugh at the kid.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:52 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:26 pm
Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?
Have you guys tried turning Ardern off altogether and putting her back in the box?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:40 pm

Service Dog wrote: (just under 27 Million bucks)
just over

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:40 pm

screwtape wrote: if he really only paid $750 in taxes for two of the last ten years, his reasons for staying in power are more to do with financial gain and staving off prosecution than because he is a power-hungry would-be dictator.
I think you were lied-to about Trump's taxes. I think you should direct your contempt-- at those who lied to you.

According to Breitbart-- Trump paid $1 Million in taxes in 2016, and $4.2 Million in 2017. He paid that money up-front. He doesn't get it back, except it's considered a pre-payment against future years' taxes.

The tax system allows Trump to subtract deductions from his tax bill. For example the purchase-price of residential real estate is deduct-able. But that deduction must be spread over 27.5 years... not taken all in one year.

For example: if Trump bought a house for $27,479,375-- (just under 27 Million bucks)... then Trump could subtract not-quite-a-million dollars from his taxes every year... for 27.5 years... and just owe $750 per year. (if his annual pre-deduction tax bill was a million bucks. which it was, in 2016.)

If you-- or the NY Times-- think the US tax system is a Scandal-- and it should operate differently-- fine, shout it from the rooftops.

But if you think Trump paying his taxes in the ordinary, mandated way-- is newsworthy, a bombshell, disqualifying Trump from his position of power-- then you're deluded. The New York Times is trying to influence an election by exploiting public ignorance of tax codes. It's a dirty trick. Only tax accountants are paid to learn the ins-and-outs of tax law. The rest of us rely on the fucking New York Times to give us a truthful summary.

Much more detail about Trump's taxes, here:
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/ ... -nonsense/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:10 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Keating » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:57 pm

I don't think Trump deserves a second term, because he's lazy and hasn't actually done very much. Indeed, the worst thing about Trump is how normal a president he is.

The democrats, however, can never be allowed power in their current state. Holy crap they are terrifying.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by mordacious1 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:49 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?
A while back, they made a documentary on doing this for Germany. The documentary was called, “Das Boot”.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:35 pm

Service Dog wrote: snip

In a comedy-- the clown is the hero. The 'bad guy' is the uptight authority-figure trying to expose the clown as clownish-- and getting mad at the crowd for loving the clown anyway.

snip
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:26 pm

Has anyone tried turning the USA off for 30 secs and then turning it back on?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13716

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:07 am

screwtape wrote: I remain unconvinced that more Trump is going to be good for the world.
One word: China.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:49 am

Hello, my fellow humans.

With masks over your normal human tongues.
Standing six feet away from close observation.
Abstaining from warm-blooded handshakes.

Ha.
HA!

Ha. HA!
Ha. HA!

Ha! HA!
Ah. ha ha ha. HA!

As I swivel each eye across this crowd, my normal-human visual range detects— that
I certainly am the same color as those of you who will vote for me. I am the correct color.

Your scales are no different than mine!

My color certainly does not change to match whatever background coloration I require.

The mighy KAH-Mah-LA does have to avoid being photographed in front of a school bus.

My human feelings match the perils you face.
Ever-since I was a small human fee-male, whose eggs do not leave my body in large batches.
Fertilization occurs within my torso. That little hatchling was me!

Shedding? What’s that?! HA AH AH AH AH haw-HAW!

I am tough on crime. Defund the police. Get high on drugs! Racism, amirite?

How about those local sports teams, representing this hive? Go… local team. Take a knee!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:37 am

If I were less lazy, I'd google 4 years of headlines containing the words "Trump" and "Finally".

Is Trump Finally Managing To Repel His Own Supporters? --The Guardian

Commentators-- have observed the Dems' perpetual belief that Trump is on the verge of getting his comeuppance. Russia, collusion, the Mueller Report, Mueller testifying, Ukraine, Impeachment, Covid-19, RBG. And when support for Trump fails to fall below the same solid 'floor', most commentators shift their ire to the deplorable public.

I think this tax return thing will be like that. Trump's tax returns are an even-older story than Russia. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this is the silver bullet that gets him. I haven't looked past the headlines yet.

Mostly, I'm reminded of a previous 'finally' moment. At first, I didn't even remember which moment it was. All I remembered was Trump's reaction-- he was supposedly in some kind of big trouble-- and he shrugged it off. Saying it didn't "feel like" he was finally finally finally defeated.

I googled it. It was the day he was impeached. This live news report is more-perfect than I expected: Trump speaking live while the impeachment vote passes. Trump, unruffled-- unflappable. Surrounded by his supporters, as enthusiastic as ever. The camera even cuts to a reporter in the foreground, talking-over Trump-- while he's still giving his speech. But his cadence is still audible, and the cheers. By the end-- the reporter is blaming the crowd for taking Trump's side because it's "easy" and "digestible" (as if political corruption is unfathomable and not-sensational?!) "People at home and at the rallies can't follow along" she says. And by the very-end she's saying Trump's talking points "he did nothing wrong... this is a political stunt... the democrats have been after-him since the day he took office"

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:19 am

screwtape wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:12 am
Sorry, SD, I remain unconvinced that more Trump is going to be good for the world. Now I am not in America, and have no say in it, but I do have to live with him as my neighbour in a duplex with him banging around on the other side of the party wall.
The good news today is that if he really only paid $750 in taxes for two of the last ten years, his reasons for staying in power are more to do with financial gain and staving off prosecution than because he is a power-hungry would-be dictator. I can cope with human frailty; megalomania not so much.

And don't be accusing me of being a bleeding heart. I've voted in 12 general/federal elections, ten times for Tories.
The notion of Trump as power hungry dictator is a media construction. He has never shown any indication that he wants to subvert the democratic process. Barr has done nothing but behave with integrity and it isn't his fault that it puts him at odds with the Democrats. Trump's opponent however, without question now, was part of a conspiracy to use the security services to undermine an incoming administration. The Democrats and the media are beavering away to disrupt the normal electoral process citing coronavirus which is a joke because they patently obviously don't give a shit about public gatherings. The establishment is dismissing fears about postal voting as propaganda, which is odd because bipartisan reports in the past have highlighted it as having potential for fraud. As I understand it, the mass postal voting proposed will not feature the tight controls applied to the usual absentee vote. Given the degree of BAMN, shaming and Scientology-like disconnection demonstrated by contemporary progs, how can anyone think that there won't be massive pressure placed on granny or other dependants to vote the "right way" when filling in the ballot without an official witness there to oversee. There are so many ways to abuse the postal voting system being proposed and the Dems don't even have to rig the election themselves because their rhetoric has already primed all of those faithful public sector supporters to do the right thing and save the country from Hitler. Trump would be remiss in his duty if he didn't express doubts about what is happening. The Democrats are spinning that as intention to steal the election. They have set the stage to let the activist minions cheat and raise a shitstorm if Trump doesn't fold immediately.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13712

by Service Dog » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:55 am

fat elvis is still elvis

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:44 am

No need to protest against accusations I never made. I don't get the impression you're a bleeding heart.

You & I are similar: neither of us will vote in the US election-- our opinions are just opinions. You're a 10x Tory voter who can't get behind Trump. I've never cheered for Republicans, until after Trump was already in office. (If the Democrats had picked Tulsi, I'd say they proved they're not hopeless idiots-- and she would be so far ahead of Trump, right now! Instead, she got 1% of Dem primary votes-- so I know 99% are a menace to themselves.)

As for how much Trump payed in taxes... You're changing the subject from your previous proposition. You said Kamala is a better option than Trump. I said Trump is an enema for the US war machine, deep state corruption, fake news media, and the smoky-backroom-dealers in the Democratic Party. Biden and Kamala are both vessels for those insidious powers. I don't think Trump is a noble knight. I think he's a jester. I'm ok with a boorish loudmouth glutton-- Sam Kinison, Tim Dillon, Roseanne Barr-- who still has a streak of the 'common touch' behind their lunacy. One reason opponents can't get a grip on Trump-- is they don't want to admit he fits that beloved archetype.

In a comedy-- the clown is the hero. The 'bad guy' is the uptight authority-figure trying to expose the clown as clownish-- and getting mad at the crowd for loving the clown anyway.

Look at Biden & Kamala in that clip with The Rock. Their mirth is forced-- like a villain faking being nice. Reptilians barely able to hold human form. They call a man they've never met before 'DJ', a nickname his fans have never heard. (Dwayne, Rocky, Rock, Mr. Johnson, Jabroni. Or don't call him anything at all-- just talk to him!)

Kamala claims to be a 'big fan'-- right when she's in the spotlight for being a fake-fan of rap music. Then she omits his entire wrestling career-- when praising his accomplishments. He asks wide-open questions about the great things they'll do-- and their replies are super-crazy-vague.

Imagine it was Tulsi. She & The Rock are both Samoans! They'd be surfing together. Rough-housing on a wrestling mat. Genuinely laughing.


If Trump wins again-- it will be because he cleared the low bar of seeming HUMAN. And because his opponents couldn't manage even that. Not just Kamala and Biden-- but the loony BLM in the streets, the kneeling white bootlickers praising Antifa. And bureaucrats who criminalized normal American life as "non-essential".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13710

by screwtape » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:12 am

Sorry, SD, I remain unconvinced that more Trump is going to be good for the world. Now I am not in America, and have no say in it, but I do have to live with him as my neighbour in a duplex with him banging around on the other side of the party wall.
The good news today is that if he really only paid $750 in taxes for two of the last ten years, his reasons for staying in power are more to do with financial gain and staving off prosecution than because he is a power-hungry would-be dictator. I can cope with human frailty; megalomania not so much.

And don't be accusing me of being a bleeding heart. I've voted in 12 general/federal elections, ten times for Tories.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13709

by Service Dog » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:10 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13708

by Service Dog » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:39 pm

screwtape wrote: a vote for him will actually be one for Harris (and thus still better than four, eight or x more years of Trump.)
The neocon war machine hates Trump, loves Biden/Harris. Which leaves you asserting that 'more forever wars' is better than Trump.

Likewise, a Biden/Harris win will mean no accountability for the deep state's corruption-- such as Flynn case or Hunter Biden. That's also 'still better' than Trump?

Another example: The truth-adverse news media will be fattened, not challenged-- under Biden/Harris.

Heck-- a Biden/Harris win-- is a win for the parasites atop the Democratic Party-- who subvert the popular will of Democrat voters. That house won't get cleaned if Biden/Harris win. (At least Trump acted as a bull rampaging in the Republican china shop.)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13707

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:29 pm

screwtape wrote: I see that recent photos of Biden are showing more lines on his face, and it may be that the facial immobility I noted a few weeks ago was due to heavy handed use of Botox. Time will tell if his brain recovers mobility like the saggy face. I would assume still that a vote for him will actually be one for Harris (and thus still better than four, eight or x more years of Trump.)
Take it from someone who watched up close Kamala's ruthless climb up the CA Dem ladder while abusing the power of every office she's held -- she is a machiavellian sociopath, and would rule as a vindictive, capricious dictator.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13706

by Service Dog » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:57 pm

Tom Woods interviews historian Kevin Gutzman about RGB, filling the vacancy, and the history of the SCOTUS.
https://tomwoods.com/ep-1740-the-post-g ... n-gutzman/

Two points stood out for me:

1. It makes sense that the Progressives wanted an activist court, before the Civil Rights gains for blacks, women, gays-- and before legalized abortion. The progs couldn't win popular support to elect politicians to enact those goals-- so they needed the Court to legislate from the bench. But now-- the country has shifted toward a majority of Americans supporing progressive stuff. So the Dems should revert to using the Legislatures to legislate. From here forward-- an activist "vote for what you believe in" court risks 5-4 decisions which take-away things progressives already won. Conservative 'narrow-interpretation' supremes will defend the prog status quo.

2. The Dems currently freaking-out about the court swinging to the right-- only have themselves to blame for having assigned so much legislative power to the court.

My departure from the progressive left was largely because I couldn't stand how they squander their resources. Pink pussy hat marches don't get anything done, for example. The 2 points above-- match my recent 'tough love' attitude-- if things get bad enough for the left, maybe they'll fix the rot inside their ranks, and come back more worthy. Be careful what I wish for, of course: a left super-strain.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13705

by screwtape » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:44 pm

I see that recent photos of Biden are showing more lines on his face, and it may be that the facial immobility I noted a few weeks ago was due to heavy handed use of Botox. Time will tell if his brain recovers mobility like the saggy face. I would assume still that a vote for him will actually be one for Harris (and thus still better than four, eight or x more years of Trump.)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13704

by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:25 am

Service Dog wrote: .
You ain't black.



Kamala is such a huge Tupac fan, she was listening to his music years before he recorded any of it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13703

by Driftless » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:32 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:56 am
handmaid6j.jpg

Day 6 of Google News front page offering the debunked Newsweek story, claiming that Judge Barrett's church group inspired The Handmaid's Tale.

Newsweek's "corrected" version of the story still claims that the book's author was inspired by a different Catholic group.


The author herself-- and Politico's fact-checkers-- refuse to concede even-that much... asserting Judge Barrett's group _may_ have been the inspiration...
"But Atwood told POLITICO she was unsure whether People of Praise was among the real-world inspirations for her book, saying her notes from that time reside at the Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library at the University of Toronto and are currently inaccessible due to the coronavirus. “Unless I can go back into the clippings file, I hesitate to say anything specific,” the Canadian author said in a statement."
One problem with the POLITICO/Atwood claim... it was already debunked in 2017, in New Jersey's largest local newspaper:
"In a recent New Yorker magazine profile, acclaimed author Margaret Atwood -- whose sci-fi classic "The Handmaid's Tale" is once again on best-seller lists, and was recently turned into a TV series for Hulu -- looked back on the research she conducted for her famous book.

"Clip-clippety-clip," Atwood said. "Out of the newspaper I clipped things."
....
In Atwood's research files, according to The New Yorker,.... "An Associated Press item reported on a Catholic congregation in New Jersey being taken over by a fundamentalist sect in which wives were called 'handmaidens' -- a word that Atwood had underlined."

You can even see, on The New Yorker's website, the yellowed article with the "BERKELEY HEIGHTS, N.J." dateline.
....
There's just one problem. The Jersey conflict that caught Atwood's attention didn't hit the Associated Press wires (and newspapers all across the U.S. and Canada) until October 1985.

By then Atwood's book had already been published.

It was reviewed twice in The New York Times, in late 1985 and early 1986, on its way to becoming a bestseller."
The smear machine is rolling into action. Coyne just posted a 2016 clip from CBS supposedly showing that she is a hypocrite regarding SC nominations, only the full interview reveals that her conclusion was that there is no rule dictating the choices of the Senate and President regarding SC nominations in these contentious instances. Expect a blizzard of dis-ingenuity, lies, appeals to "decency" and calls to respect the dying wishes of RBG. I think Trump should have nominated Lagoa though as it would have made it harder for Romney to take out his butthurt by opposing her.
I go with Obama:
When there is a vacancy on the SCOTUS, the President is to nominate someone, the Senate is to consider that nomination... There's no unwritten law that says that it can only be done on off-years. That's not in the Constitution text.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13702

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:57 am

By "she" I mean Barrett, not Atwood.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13701

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:55 am

Service Dog wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:56 am
handmaid6j.jpg

Day 6 of Google News front page offering the debunked Newsweek story, claiming that Judge Barrett's church group inspired The Handmaid's Tale.

Newsweek's "corrected" version of the story still claims that the book's author was inspired by a different Catholic group.


The author herself-- and Politico's fact-checkers-- refuse to concede even-that much... asserting Judge Barrett's group _may_ have been the inspiration...
"But Atwood told POLITICO she was unsure whether People of Praise was among the real-world inspirations for her book, saying her notes from that time reside at the Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library at the University of Toronto and are currently inaccessible due to the coronavirus. “Unless I can go back into the clippings file, I hesitate to say anything specific,” the Canadian author said in a statement."
One problem with the POLITICO/Atwood claim... it was already debunked in 2017, in New Jersey's largest local newspaper:
"In a recent New Yorker magazine profile, acclaimed author Margaret Atwood -- whose sci-fi classic "The Handmaid's Tale" is once again on best-seller lists, and was recently turned into a TV series for Hulu -- looked back on the research she conducted for her famous book.

"Clip-clippety-clip," Atwood said. "Out of the newspaper I clipped things."
....
In Atwood's research files, according to The New Yorker,.... "An Associated Press item reported on a Catholic congregation in New Jersey being taken over by a fundamentalist sect in which wives were called 'handmaidens' -- a word that Atwood had underlined."

You can even see, on The New Yorker's website, the yellowed article with the "BERKELEY HEIGHTS, N.J." dateline.
....
There's just one problem. The Jersey conflict that caught Atwood's attention didn't hit the Associated Press wires (and newspapers all across the U.S. and Canada) until October 1985.

By then Atwood's book had already been published.

It was reviewed twice in The New York Times, in late 1985 and early 1986, on its way to becoming a bestseller."
The smear machine is rolling into action. Coyne just posted a 2016 clip from CBS supposedly showing that she is a hypocrite regarding SC nominations, only the full interview reveals that her conclusion was that there is no rule dictating the choices of the Senate and President regarding SC nominations in these contentious instances. Expect a blizzard of dis-ingenuity, lies, appeals to "decency" and calls to respect the dying wishes of RBG. I think Trump should have nominated Lagoa though as it would have made it harder for Romney to take out his butthurt by opposing her.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13700

by MarcusAu » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:34 am

screwtape wrote:
MarcusAu wrote: Has anyone given much thought to axolotls?
It's the Tleilaxu face dancers that get to me.
Could be nasty - I hope you are taking suitable precautions.

In the meantime - here's something to listen to whilst you wait...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13699

by Fegg » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:26 am

Service Dog wrote: The author herself-- and Politico's fact-checkers-- refuse to concede even-that much... asserting Judge Barrett's group _may_ have been the inspiration...
And anyone with a clue about Romanism should recognise "handmaid" as a reference to Luke 1:48 in the Magnificat, and it signifies nothing whatever except that Papists are very keen on Mary.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13698

by Service Dog » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:56 am

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Day 6 of Google News front page offering the debunked Newsweek story, claiming that Judge Barrett's church group inspired The Handmaid's Tale.

Newsweek's "corrected" version of the story still claims that the book's author was inspired by a different Catholic group.


The author herself-- and Politico's fact-checkers-- refuse to concede even-that much... asserting Judge Barrett's group _may_ have been the inspiration...
"But Atwood told POLITICO she was unsure whether People of Praise was among the real-world inspirations for her book, saying her notes from that time reside at the Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library at the University of Toronto and are currently inaccessible due to the coronavirus. “Unless I can go back into the clippings file, I hesitate to say anything specific,” the Canadian author said in a statement."
One problem with the POLITICO/Atwood claim... it was already debunked in 2017, in New Jersey's largest local newspaper:
"In a recent New Yorker magazine profile, acclaimed author Margaret Atwood -- whose sci-fi classic "The Handmaid's Tale" is once again on best-seller lists, and was recently turned into a TV series for Hulu -- looked back on the research she conducted for her famous book.

"Clip-clippety-clip," Atwood said. "Out of the newspaper I clipped things."
....
In Atwood's research files, according to The New Yorker,.... "An Associated Press item reported on a Catholic congregation in New Jersey being taken over by a fundamentalist sect in which wives were called 'handmaidens' -- a word that Atwood had underlined."

You can even see, on The New Yorker's website, the yellowed article with the "BERKELEY HEIGHTS, N.J." dateline.
....
There's just one problem. The Jersey conflict that caught Atwood's attention didn't hit the Associated Press wires (and newspapers all across the U.S. and Canada) until October 1985.

By then Atwood's book had already been published.

It was reviewed twice in The New York Times, in late 1985 and early 1986, on its way to becoming a bestseller."

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#13697

by Service Dog » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:16 am

John D wrote: Holy Crap. Why is this not the biggest story in America?

Brietbart tells the story from the point of view of FBI Agent Barnett, with a timeline of the red flags Barnett observed.

One detail: the moment when the Flynn investigation appeared to be ending-- until a meeting with Obama & Biden jolted into extra innings:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... ynn-probe/

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