You is all a bunch of poofs!

Post a reply


This question is a means of preventing automated form submissions by spambots.

BBCode is ON
[img] is OFF
[flash] is OFF
[url] is ON
Smilies are OFF

Topic review
   

Expand view Topic review: You is all a bunch of poofs!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11141

by Service Dog » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:33 pm

Driftless wrote:
Reminds me of the quote "Never Wrestle with a Pig. You Both Get Dirty and the Pig Likes It". Trump is very good at taking the low road ....
Heinlein's version also pertains-- to those who seek to improve Trump:

"Never Attempt To Teach a Pig To Sing; It Wastes Your Time and Annoys the Pig"

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11140

by free thoughtpolice » Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:26 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:38 am
Matt: Hardly sophistry to point out that If anything Trump and his pals are far more divisive than his detractors.
My assertion: the Never-Trumpers demonize their opponents.

Your response: Yeah, but Trumpers do it, too.

How is that not a tu quoque, you fucking mong?
What is wrong with pointing that out? It certainly isn't a logical fallacy. If you want to point to one side playing dirty I don't see what is wrong with pointing out that the other side is every bit or more dirty.
The tu quoque fallacy occurs when one charges another with hypocrisy or inconsistency in order to avoid taking the other's position seriously
It's the way the game is played and pointing out that both sides do it isn't denying that it is a serious problem, it only serves to show that one side isn't the only guilty party. It would be a fallacy if I said it isn't divisive when anti-Trumpers do it but I didn't say that or intend it.
Are you using a tu quoque fallacy when you point out baboon hypocrisy by saying "it's OK when we do it"?
If you want to argue about debating fairly how about using an ad hominem like If you don't believe with near certainty that the covid outbreak occurred from an escape at the Wuhan lab instead of natural spread from the countryside than you are a communist Chinese useful idiot.
Tu quoque and a gotcha you My Little Pony molester. :P

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11139

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:16 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:38 am
Matt: Hardly sophistry to point out that If anything Trump and his pals are far more divisive than his detractors.
My assertion: the Never-Trumpers demonize their opponents.

Your response: Yeah, but Trumpers do it, too.

How is that not a tu quoque, you fucking mong?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11138

by Service Dog » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:02 pm

Hilarious.

the clip is from 2016. At 25:00, you can laugh at a frenchman protesting while munching on a baguette. so funny!
A few seconds later, the purple balloon gets coated with tear gas spray.
Then some excellent footage of the cop's excellent moustache.
And then 25:44 the balloon pops near her eyes/ presumably delivering tear gas!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11137

by AndrewV69 » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:38 am

:o :o :o



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11136

by free thoughtpolice » Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:38 am

Matt: Hardly sophistry to point out that If anything Trump and his pals are far more divisive than his detractors.
You frequently say "It's OK when we do it". How is that different than what I pointed out or is that also a tu quoque argument (not to mention a double tu quo que by me pointing that out)? :P
It isn't a logical fallacy to point out there is divisive rhetoric on both sides of this debate , and arguably more so on the Trump side.
I didn't even disagree with your quote, just pointed out this is hardly a one sided issue.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11135

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:33 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Points 2 and 4 suggest that some of this violence results from feelings of impotence. They don't believe Biden can take on Trump and they'd rather burn down the country than face another four years of Trump. They've become accustomed to the new Democrat ethos which is that accepted norms no longer apply because Orange Man very very bad. They've practically been given the green light by the media. I don't know where the so-called moderate Democrats who've watched their party tear down convention (while accusing Trump of doing that) in their hatred of Trump though this was going to end.

I can't imagine how poor white folk in Merka must be feeling. I suspect these BLM activists are aware enough to know who they can safely ask to grovel. TBH I reserve my anger for the grovelers because they are the type of people who have encouraged and rewarded the grievance grifters.
The TDS has convinced them Trump is the worst thing ever to happen to humanity, thus justifying RESISTANCE BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Of course, the soft, white elite in their cushy lives wouldn't raise a fist or a brick, but derive vicarious thrills from watching Antifa and black hooligans.

The elephant in the Democrat's room is the obvious signs of advanced dementia in Biden. Placing Amy Klobuchar on the ticket was viewed by many Dem strategists as an antidote -- the unspoken understanding being we'd effectively be electing someone competent and experienced enough to step into the Oval Office at a moment's notice. But she has a snowball's chance in Hell now, so the running mate will be one of a handful of contentious POCs, each with a penchant for hectoring and white-shaming.

And it's not just the po' white folk who are sick to death of being told they're 'privileged' and everything is their and their inborn racism's fault. I have a few friends, more to the left than me and loyal Dem voters in the past, who are considering either staying home in November -- or even voting for Trump.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11134

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:08 am

free thoughtpolice wrote: Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Pure Manichaeism -- either you conform like us Good saintly folk, or you're and Evil selfish bastard.
Well, you know those never Trumpers. They're all human scum. How dare they try to undo all the good work Trump and his supporters have done to unify America.
Dr. Dena Grayson
@DrDenaGrayson
·
May 28
Replying to
@realDonaldTrump
🚨Trump retweeted a video saying, “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.”

The man later claims he didn’t mean it in the “physical” sense.🙄

Reminder that Trump has “inspired” his followers to send BOMBS and DEATH THREATS to Democratic leaders.🤬
Quote Tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· May 27
Thank you Cowboys. See you in New Mexico! twitter.com/RideWithC4T/st…

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ary-police
Oh, a tu quoque! Just the latest addition to your repertoire of logical fallacy and sophistry, FTP.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11133

by free thoughtpolice » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:46 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Pure Manichaeism -- either you conform like us Good saintly folk, or you're and Evil selfish bastard.
Well, you know those never Trumpers. They're all human scum. How dare they try to undo all the good work Trump and his supporters have done to unify America.
Dr. Dena Grayson
@DrDenaGrayson
·
May 28
Replying to
@realDonaldTrump
🚨Trump retweeted a video saying, “The only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.”

The man later claims he didn’t mean it in the “physical” sense.🙄

Reminder that Trump has “inspired” his followers to send BOMBS and DEATH THREATS to Democratic leaders.🤬
Quote Tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
· May 27
Thank you Cowboys. See you in New Mexico! twitter.com/RideWithC4T/st…

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ary-police

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11132

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:29 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:17 pm
I just perused the latest Emerson poll on the Geo Floyd thing and the POTUS election. A few things stood out for me:
1) Nearly all Republicans and independents believe race relations are better than in the 1960's, most Democrats think things are much worse;
2) Nearly a third of Democrats believe torching a police station is an acceptable form of protest;
3) A significant number of respondents who rate Trump unfavorably still say they'll vote for him;
4) Trump supporters are very enthusiastic, Biden support is quite tepid.

Unsurprisingly, support for prosecuting Chauvin, et al., is uniformly very high across all demographics.

I'll leave it to you all to make what you will of all that.

https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.c ... e-is-split
Points 2 and 4 suggest that some of this violence results from feelings of impotence. They don't believe Biden can take on Trump and they'd rather burn down the country than face another four years of Trump. They've become accustomed to the new Democrat ethos which is that accepted norms no longer apply because Orange Man very very bad. They've practically been given the green light by the media. I don't know where the so-called moderate Democrats who've watched their party tear down convention (while accusing Trump of doing that) in their hatred of Trump though this was going to end.

I can't imagine how poor white folk in Merka must be feeling. I suspect these BLM activists are aware enough to know who they can safely ask to grovel. TBH I reserve my anger for the grovelers because they are the type of people who have encouraged and rewarded the grievance grifters.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11131

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:18 am

I just received and email from the Democratic National Committee informing me that Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Sandra Bland were "murdered".

Just as TDS is a real thing, White Guilt Mania is, too. The Floyd killing has brought on another severe outbreak of the latter. If the Dems are switching from 'Orange Man Bad' to 'White People Bad', they will get clobbered this November.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11130

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:06 am

Service Dog wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:17 pm
They keep attacking Trump's supporters. "Deplorables" style.

Is there anything MORE divisive than an ad called "Two Americas"?


Pure Manichaeism -- either you conform like us Good saintly folk, or you're and Evil selfish bastard.

Earlier this week, I attended a 're-open our county' rally. The primary concern expressed there was the needless harm being inflicted on people's economic, mental, and emotional well-being. A teacher and a few parents also were very worried about the effect on children of the ridiculous school opening restrictions -- mandatory mask-wearing, no physical contact whatsoever, locked in one room with a small group of fellow students all day and 6' distancing at that, etc. -- being proposed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11129

by Driftless » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:00 am

Service Dog wrote:
[...]

Trump's opponents have an unreconciled identity-crisis. On one hand-- they want to take the HIgh Road-- campaign that they're holier than Trump.
On the other hand-- they want to stoop to Trump's level-- hit below the belt/ beat trump at his own game/ take the Low Road.

They fluctuate. So they ruin their High Road cred with sporadic Low Road stunts. And sabotage their Low Road capability with sporadic High Road preening.

[...]
Reminds me of the quote "Never Wrestle with a Pig. You Both Get Dirty and the Pig Likes It". Trump is very good at taking the low road, so anyone who tries to beat him at it is bound to lose. Also, I think he uses his Twitter account to distract the press when something is going on that he doesn't want the press to cover anymore. The press takes the bait every time.

Interesting that the quote has been attributed to many people but there is not evidence for any of them actually saying it:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/07/08/pig/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11128

by MarcusAu » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:16 am

You might think that covid isolation has caused desolation - but for others it's been inspiration...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11127

by Service Dog » Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:17 pm

I find it amazing that Dems think the never-trump Republicans at the Lincoln Project-- are good allies. Kellyanne Conway's lumpy husband is their great hope?

The Lincoln Project's mission statement-- on their website-- is all-about uniting a divided country & ending Trump's divisive presidency.

But Lincoln Project's ads can't contain themselves-- to focus on Trump himself. They keep attacking Trump's supporters. "Deplorables" style.

Is there anything MORE divisive than an ad called "Two Americas"?



==

Today i saw a segment of a White House press briefing. A reporter tried to defend Antifa as not-a-terrorist organization-- in part because they're (supposedly) not an 'organization'. Additionally, the reporter tried to claim Trump doesn't think White Supremacist groups should be designated terror organizations.

Kaleigh McEnany listed examples of the white power types being prosecuted using the terror laws. And then the reporter was like... 'but but but... those are examples of Individual White Supremacists being prosecuted under the terror law, not organizations!' YEAH BITCH?-- well then it seems like individual Antifa shitheads can be prosecuted the same way as they whiteys-- as individuals-- regardless of whether they''re officially an organization. Her first complaint entirely contradicted her second complaint.

Then Kaleigh McEnany pointed-out that antifa rioters have defaced the Lincoln Monument, site of MLK's March on Washington and ' I Have A Dream Speech'.
==

Trump's opponents have an unreconciled identity-crisis. On one hand-- they want to take the HIgh Road-- campaign that they're holier than Trump.
On the other hand-- they want to stoop to Trump's level-- hit below the belt/ beat trump at his own game/ take the Low Road.

They fluctuate. So they ruin their High Road cred with sporadic Low Road stunts. And sabotage their Low Road capability with sporadic High Road preening.

==

I think the Lincoln Project republicans will keep making weird, off-putting ads with Democrat donors' money-- because that's all Lincoln Project can do. They can't actually make ads which highlight some deep common agenda they all share... because they don't share a deep common agenda. They both hate Trump. Beyond that-- the hot war is already burning in the streets. I predict Lincoln Project won't be able to maintain a guise of internal unity. It's halves will turn on each other before they defeat Trump.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11126

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:24 pm

John D wrote: Say it.
Dang. The child sacrifice was one of the things I liked most about the Dems.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11125

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:41 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11124

by Driftless » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:02 pm

Someone needs to make a red hat that says "Bunker Inspector".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11123

by John D » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:32 pm

Say it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11122

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:17 pm

I just perused the latest Emerson poll on the Geo Floyd thing and the POTUS election. A few things stood out for me:
1) Nearly all Republicans and independents believe race relations are better than in the 1960's, most Democrats think things are much worse;
2) Nearly a third of Democrats believe torching a police station is an acceptable form of protest;
3) A significant number of respondents who rate Trump unfavorably still say they'll vote for him;
4) Trump supporters are very enthusiastic, Biden support is quite tepid.

Unsurprisingly, support for prosecuting Chauvin, et al., is uniformly very high across all demographics.

I'll leave it to you all to make what you will of all that.

https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.c ... e-is-split

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11121

by John D » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:30 pm

Service Dog wrote:

Sometimes I get so sick of the black morons pissing on my doorstep, blasting shit music I can't escape-- even at the back of my apartment, yelling, fighting, stumbling around.

I reach for the 'antidote'. Such as listening to a song by War. To remind myself why I used to love & respect black culture.

Today I watched 'Do The Right Thing'. Which once meant a lot to me. I didn't expect it to hold-up. But it did. I'm impressed that Spike Lee left plenty of room for a viewer to identify with Danny Aiello's pizza-shop-owner character. Just as much as Radio Rahim. Pretty-amazing, to look back & know I thought Giancarlo Esposito's wannabe-black-power-radical-activist character-- Buggin' Out-- was righteous & sane, back when I was young.

==
I been having a go-nowhere conversation with jap/chink girlfriend. She insists police are a friendly-neighborhood presence in Japan. Polite & businesslike, even when they're dealing with someone who doesn't really deserve respect. Sure, maybe. I think policing Japan might be a different job than policing the USA. Japan might be like being a bouncer in a bar-- early in the evening/ when only a few customers become unruly. The US might be like a bar near closing time-- when the place is simmering with drunks wanting to fight, self-harm, pillage, or just be incoherent... and they all have cameraphones & greedy lawyers. And-- I might prefer the US way. Which is better: a polite place where you don't really have any rights. Or a place where relations with the cops are adversarial-- but you (ideally) have the right to say 'no' and defend yourself from police excesses.

==

Also on my mind are all the fashion labels whose stores have been looted-- the same labels are also issuing statements of support for BlackLivesMatter, and making donations to BLM. And donations to 'bail funds'-- to bail-out the looters? Seems like consensual looting, to me. Why should a cop defend those stores, if the stores 'support' the looters?

I'm also thinking of the way those labels cozy-up to all the urban-influencer shitheads-- who rap about 'Versace versace versace' and Gucci and Louis Vuitton, etc. And about how great it is to be a criminal. Endorsement deals, free clothing & jewelry, expense-paid luxury invitations. Seems like a wonderful partnership-- not a situation with a victim-- who needs to be protected with tax money.
Thanks for the post Dog...... I still think you should write a book.

I am so torn up. I have always thought my fellow citizens were fucking morons...but this whole thing has rattled me. Watching everything burn... wow... In Detroit, our police chief, Craig, has been strongly enforcing curfews. He has actually prevented looting and damage. The local papers are calling him out for going after "peaceful protesters" but he has personally saved the city. A real hero. He has done more to help black people than anyone I can think of right now.

The Versaces of the world are likely to regret this. There is no long term success in promoting destruction.... well... maybe there is... What the fuck do I know?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11120

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:15 pm

Lsuoma wrote: Screwtape - is there a nuanced difference between micturation and urination, or are the both just pissing?
Micturate on the palisade just doesn't have the same ring.


Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11119

by Service Dog » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:12 pm



Sometimes I get so sick of the black morons pissing on my doorstep, blasting shit music I can't escape-- even at the back of my apartment, yelling, fighting, stumbling around.

I reach for the 'antidote'. Such as listening to a song by War. To remind myself why I used to love & respect black culture.

Today I watched 'Do The Right Thing'. Which once meant a lot to me. I didn't expect it to hold-up. But it did. I'm impressed that Spike Lee left plenty of room for a viewer to identify with Danny Aiello's pizza-shop-owner character. Just as much as Radio Rahim. Pretty-amazing, to look back & know I thought Giancarlo Esposito's wannabe-black-power-radical-activist character-- Buggin' Out-- was righteous & sane, back when I was young.

==
I been having a go-nowhere conversation with jap/chink girlfriend. She insists police are a friendly-neighborhood presence in Japan. Polite & businesslike, even when they're dealing with someone who doesn't really deserve respect. Sure, maybe. I think policing Japan might be a different job than policing the USA. Japan might be like being a bouncer in a bar-- early in the evening/ when only a few customers become unruly. The US might be like a bar near closing time-- when the place is simmering with drunks wanting to fight, self-harm, pillage, or just be incoherent... and they all have cameraphones & greedy lawyers. And-- I might prefer the US way. Which is better: a polite place where you don't really have any rights. Or a place where relations with the cops are adversarial-- but you (ideally) have the right to say 'no' and defend yourself from police excesses.

==

Also on my mind are all the fashion labels whose stores have been looted-- the same labels are also issuing statements of support for BlackLivesMatter, and making donations to BLM. And donations to 'bail funds'-- to bail-out the looters? Seems like consensual looting, to me. Why should a cop defend those stores, if the stores 'support' the looters?

I'm also thinking of the way those labels cozy-up to all the urban-influencer shitheads-- who rap about 'Versace versace versace' and Gucci and Louis Vuitton, etc. And about how great it is to be a criminal. Endorsement deals, free clothing & jewelry, expense-paid luxury invitations. Seems like a wonderful partnership-- not a situation with a victim-- who needs to be protected with tax money.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11118

by John D » Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:52 am

Woo Hoo! Had a blast un-following a bunch of my family today on Tardbook.

My 1/2 black nephew posts on Facebook "Hey white people .... how can you object to us destroying things when you burned shoes to protest Collin Kapernick?" And I stared at one of the stupidest comments I had ever seen.... and I just un-followed him. My wife was a bit upset that I didn't engage him and explain that white people were burning THEIR OWN SHOES.... not someone elses shoes. But, I explained to her that anything I do at this point will not help..... and I no longer care.

Seriously. I can't care anymore.

Let the cities burn. I don't care. The people who live in the big cities have made their own shit and they can live in it. Fuck it. Don't care.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11117

by Service Dog » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:28 am

Don't worry about California. Soon $950 will buy nothing but a candy bar.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11116

by Lsuoma » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:57 am

Screwtape - is there a nuanced difference between micturation and urination, or are the both just pissing?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11115

by Driftless » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:39 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Hunt wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Know what's insane? In California, a theft of less than $950 cannot by law be prosecuted, while possession of a magazine with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds is a felony.
Citation? I might be returning to CA sooner than I thought, and making a bee line for the candy store.
After Proposition 47: Crime and No Consequences in California


-
Generally, it is illegal to buy, manufacture, import, keep for sale, expose for sale, give or lend any large-capacity magazine (able to accept more than 10 rounds) in California.
(Pen. Code, §§16150, subd. (b), 30305, 32310.)
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#9
That is why many businesses have signs warning you not to leave valuables in your car. It is a good idea anyway, but in California it happens frequently because the cops don't do anything about it. Try calling the police and saying your car window was smashed and stuff stolen. They are not interested.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11114

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:08 am

Hunt wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Doing something about them would make a world of difference.
And that would be?
I'm open to suggestions.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11113

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 am

Hunt wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Know what's insane? In California, a theft of less than $950 cannot by law be prosecuted, while possession of a magazine with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds is a felony.
Citation? I might be returning to CA sooner than I thought, and making a bee line for the candy store.
After Proposition 47: Crime and No Consequences in California


-
Generally, it is illegal to buy, manufacture, import, keep for sale, expose for sale, give or lend any large-capacity magazine (able to accept more than 10 rounds) in California.
(Pen. Code, §§16150, subd. (b), 30305, 32310.)
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#9

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11112

by Hunt » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:27 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Hunt wrote: drug possession laws exist, and in many states are prisonable offenses. So the vast majority of citizens have been potential subject to incarceration, in a so-called free nation.

It's frankly insane.
Know what's insane? In California, a theft of less than $950 cannot by law be prosecuted, while possession of a magazine with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds is a felony.
Citation? I might be returning to CA sooner than I thought, and making a bee line for the candy store.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11111

by Hunt » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:25 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Doing something about them would make a world of difference.
And that would be?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11110

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:21 am

Hunt wrote: drug possession laws exist, and in many states are prisonable offenses. So the vast majority of citizens have been potential subject to incarceration, in a so-called free nation.

It's frankly insane.
Know what's insane? In California, a theft of less than $950 cannot by law be prosecuted, while possession of a magazine with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds is a felony.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11109

by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:16 am

KiwiInOz wrote: Your country has the highest incarceration rates globally. How's that strategy working out for you?
We keep letting the criminals go again after catching them. That has to stop.

A third of all crime, and half of all violent crimes, are committed by blacks, who make up only 13% of the population. But the black criminals are almost exclusively young males, so it's really only maybe 3 to 4% who are responsible. Doing something about them would make a world of difference.

The market still remains and now you have a gap in the supply chain. What's going to happen?
The current opiod epidemic arose recently and as a direct consequence of globalization's destruction of economies in entire regions of the country. End globalization and bring MFG jobs back to America.

Drug sub-cultures promote abuse. End the free supply of drugs and those sub-cultures will die off.

Individuals with addictive tendencies should receive effective health care and support.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11108

by Driftless » Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:05 am

Service Dog wrote:
Driftless wrote: More local news:
Oh-- I didn't know you lived there. I went to a couple years of high school there. Got any other local news?
Cool. I live near there but lived there for many years. I haven't paid that much attention to goings on until now since not much was happening other than the Foxconn factory circus. That is over near Milwaukee although there is a building downtown that Foxconn bought to supposedly turn into engineering offices. As far as I know the original tenants are still in the building. The factory debacle is still ongoing as well.

Here's an example of the clear-headed thinking of some of the protestors in the current situation:

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/photo ... da579.html
On the fourth day of demonstrations in Madison, hundreds of protesters in vehicles, on bikes and by foot, gathered in front of the Dane County Public Safety Building to call for the release of all black inmates, community control and defunding of the police. The caravan drove onto John Nolen Drive where they disrupted traffic for about an hour before heading west onto the Beltline.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11107

by KiwiInOz » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:42 am

Hunt wrote: snip

I speak for Amerka, but nearly every citizen will admit to, at one time or another, using illicit substances. It's funny, even people you wouldn't think have smoked a joint or done harder stuff have probably tried something at one point or another. The point is: drug possession laws exist, and in many states are prisonable offenses. So the vast majority of citizens have been potential subject to incarceration, in a so-called free nation.

It's frankly insane.
It's ok as long as you don't inhale or swallow, apparently.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11106

by Hunt » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:58 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: And so the cycle continues.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

There are laws against drugs for moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons.

Supplying the market is criminalised and the market is therefore unregulated.

Criminals supply the market because a) the market is criminalised, and b) the money is so good because people are prepared to pay the prices.

Criminals protect their markets by violence and corruption because a) the potential profit is so good, and b) increasing force is used against them.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

Where do you intervene if you want the best chance to achieve your desired moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons?
You left out the part where criminals get arrested, thrown in jail, and never let out again.
Some random thoughts:

Your country has the highest incarceration rates globally. How's that strategy working out for you?

The market still remains and now you have a gap in the supply chain. What's going to happen?
I speak for Amerka, but nearly every citizen will admit to, at one time or another, using illicit substances. It's funny, even people you wouldn't think have smoked a joint or done harder stuff have probably tried something at one point or another. The point is: drug possession laws exist, and in many states are prisonable offenses. So the vast majority of citizens have been potential subject to incarceration, in a so-called free nation.

It's frankly insane.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11105

by katamari Damassi » Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:30 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
Some random thoughts:

Your country has the highest incarceration rates globally. How's that strategy working out for you?
Well Germany already focused tested death camps and they tested badly.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11104

by KiwiInOz » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:03 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: And so the cycle continues.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

There are laws against drugs for moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons.

Supplying the market is criminalised and the market is therefore unregulated.

Criminals supply the market because a) the market is criminalised, and b) the money is so good because people are prepared to pay the prices.

Criminals protect their markets by violence and corruption because a) the potential profit is so good, and b) increasing force is used against them.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

Where do you intervene if you want the best chance to achieve your desired moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons?
You left out the part where criminals get arrested, thrown in jail, and never let out again.
Some random thoughts:

Your country has the highest incarceration rates globally. How's that strategy working out for you?

The market still remains and now you have a gap in the supply chain. What's going to happen?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11103

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:11 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: And so the cycle continues.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

There are laws against drugs for moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons.

Supplying the market is criminalised and the market is therefore unregulated.

Criminals supply the market because a) the market is criminalised, and b) the money is so good because people are prepared to pay the prices.

Criminals protect their markets by violence and corruption because a) the potential profit is so good, and b) increasing force is used against them.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

Where do you intervene if you want the best chance to achieve your desired moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons?
You left out the part where criminals get arrested, thrown in jail, and never let out again.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11102

by Service Dog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:57 pm

Hunt wrote: What will the next half year bring forth?


2020 A.D.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11101

by Service Dog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:00 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Does any one have a link to where Abby debunked Judy Mikovits?
Just google "deceitful, conniving, gigantic fucking cunt"...

https://scienceblogs.com/erv/2010/01/13 ... ue-syndr-5

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11100

by Service Dog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:55 pm

Driftless wrote: More local news:
Oh-- I didn't know you lived there. I went to a couple years of high school there. Got any other local news?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11099

by fuzzy » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:17 pm

The elephant in the room is, you could stop all white on black violence and it would have hardly any effect on the number of violent deaths of black people. No reform coming of this chaos will have any effect on that. all these idiots think they're doing something useful, but they're doing nothing useful.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11098

by Driftless » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:04 pm

More local news:

This store looks cleaned out (outdoor store, looks like the clothing section):

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnew ... 1200%2C800


Caption for this one: "Front windows smashed early Tuesday but no inventory taken."

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnew ... 1200%2C862

I guess the rioters already have extensive libraries.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11097

by Driftless » Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:35 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: I've seen:

Armed US survivalists protesting that they have had to stay indoors during a pandemic.

A US President saying that violent protesters are inhibiting the rights of peaceful protesters, then federal police are sent in, in his name, to violently clear peaceful protesters so that he can have a photo op holding a bible in front of a church.

A US President threatening to send in the military against US citizens, and the NRA and armed militias are nowhere to be seen when they are needed to protect the masses against a tyrannical government.

Land of the free, and home of the brave, my arse.

America. Fuck. Yeah.
It's an election year so everyone is on their best behavior.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11096

by KiwiInOz » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:33 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Maybe in the Utopia Denmark where there is no underclass and people are prepared to stump up the taxes to treat addicts
FTFY
and build a load of prisons with properly trained non-sadist staff that don't act as trade schools for criminals.
Simple. Don't 'matriculate' any of the 'students'.

New potential dealers are coming of age all the time as the population rolls over.
Not if you shoot enough of them as a deterrent to others.

I doubt that the world can be divided into people who are inherently criminal or non-criminal.
You and I have widely divergent understandings of human behavior.
There are some otherwise decent people selling drugs.
No one selling hard drugs could reasonably be described as 'decent'.

The high-end commercial pot industry attracts some very unsavory types as well. I used to teach riding lessons to the daughter of our local drug courier, who'd drive hundreds of pounds of pot down to the Bay area each week. I got the distinct impression -- confirmed by others who knew him well -- that he was not a guy you wanted to get on the wrong side of.

Currently, my area is being overrun by recent arrivals from central america, including my new next door neighbors. And whether their commercial operation is meth, butane honey, or just plain old weed, they pose a grave fire danger, if nothing else.

So please don't lecture me on how the drug trade is benign, or argue how the war on drugs is unwinnable based on the fact that the war to date has been half-heartedly waged with pea-shooters.
And so the cycle continues.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

There are laws against drugs for moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons.

Supplying the market is criminalised and the market is therefore unregulated.

Criminals supply the market because a) the market is criminalised, and b) the money is so good because people are prepared to pay the prices.

Criminals protect their markets by violence and corruption because a) the potential profit is so good, and b) increasing force is used against them.

There is a market for drugs because humans like to change their perceptions of reality and/or are physiologically addicted to various chemical compounds.

Where do you intervene if you want the best chance to achieve your desired moral, religious, geopolitical, or health reasons?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11095

by KiwiInOz » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:20 pm

I've seen:

Armed US survivalists protesting that they have had to stay indoors during a pandemic.

A US President saying that violent protesters are inhibiting the rights of peaceful protesters, then federal police are sent in, in his name, to violently clear peaceful protesters so that he can have a photo op holding a bible in front of a church.

A US President threatening to send in the military against US citizens, and the NRA and armed militias are nowhere to be seen when they are needed to protect the masses against a tyrannical government.

Land of the free, and home of the brave, my arse.

America. Fuck. Yeah.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11094

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:59 pm

Does any one have a link to where Abby debunked Judy Mikovits?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11093

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:36 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Maybe in the Utopia Denmark where there is no underclass and people are prepared to stump up the taxes to treat addicts
FTFY
and build a load of prisons with properly trained non-sadist staff that don't act as trade schools for criminals.
Simple. Don't 'matriculate' any of the 'students'.

New potential dealers are coming of age all the time as the population rolls over.
Not if you shoot enough of them as a deterrent to others.

I doubt that the world can be divided into people who are inherently criminal or non-criminal.
You and I have widely divergent understandings of human behavior.
There are some otherwise decent people selling drugs.
No one selling hard drugs could reasonably be described as 'decent'.

The high-end commercial pot industry attracts some very unsavory types as well. I used to teach riding lessons to the daughter of our local drug courier, who'd drive hundreds of pounds of pot down to the Bay area each week. I got the distinct impression -- confirmed by others who knew him well -- that he was not a guy you wanted to get on the wrong side of.

Currently, my area is being overrun by recent arrivals from central america, including my new next door neighbors. And whether their commercial operation is meth, butane honey, or just plain old weed, they pose a grave fire danger, if nothing else.

So please don't lecture me on how the drug trade is benign, or argue how the war on drugs is unwinnable based on the fact that the war to date has been half-heartedly waged with pea-shooters.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11092

by Service Dog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:29 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11091

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:17 pm

Brive1987 wrote: The plaintive cry of virtue signalling white knights everywhere.

As the SA-men were lined up to be shot in the Night of Long Knives, they all gave the nazi salute and shouted "Heil Hitler".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11090

by Brive1987 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:43 pm

The plaintive cry of virtue signalling white knights everywhere.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11089

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:22 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:17 am
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Take a drug dealer off the street and you have just created an opening for a new recruit. It never stops. The only practical solution is to meet demand through legal channels and reduce the profit incentive for illegal sales.
Your scenario envisions a never-ending pool of people willing to commit crime [supply], as well as a pool of drug addicts who cannot be deterred [demand].

Of course it stops. It stops when all the criminals have been removed from society and kept locked away, and all those prone to addiction are provided proper care and support.
Maybe in the Utopia where there is no underclass and people are prepared to stump up the taxes to treat addicts and build a load of prisons with properly trained non-sadist staff that don't act as trade schools for criminals. New potential dealers are coming of age all the time as the population rolls over. I doubt that the world can be divided into people who are inherently criminal or non-criminal. People will do what they feel they need to do if the circumstances arise. There are some otherwise decent people selling drugs. That's my view anyway.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11088

by AndrewV69 » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:34 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Ivy league lawyer and community board member, and Fordham educated lawyer accomplice, arrested for fire-bombing police cars:

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html


molotov.jpg


Yep. definitely white supremacist infiltrators.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11087

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:10 am

Ivy league lawyer and community board member, and Fordham educated lawyer accomplice, arrested for fire-bombing police cars:

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html

molotov.jpg
(146.91 KiB) Downloaded 75 times

Yep. definitely white supremacist infiltrators.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11086

by Service Dog » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:41 am

Black friday sale

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11085

by Driftless » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:29 am

John D wrote: Hey... I went to the protest in my suburban city of Troy Michigan... Haha...

IMG_2371.JPG
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnew ... =750%2C500

The caption is "A group of young women loot Shoo, a shoe store on State Street, around 1 a.m. Tuesday. "

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11084

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:15 am

Willyum wrote:
"Discrimination is the greatest threat to a community built on belonging and acceptance. It cuts to the core of who we are and what we believe in."
See, I was taught our society was based on individual liberty. At least they're honest they now want to impose group conformity.

Airbnb stands with Black Lives Matter, and we reject racism, bigotry, and hate.
Those are mutually exclusive.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11083

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:09 am

There shall be seven maids a-milking, each of whom shall give birth to an eight-headed lord leaping over the five golden rings of Babylon.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#11082

by MarcusAu » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:56 am

If I recall correctly - there were seven fat cows followed by seven thin cows...

...one of which was playing the trombone.

Top