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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Sulman » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:01 pm

Regarding old Dave M, I'm surprised the narrative hasn't been flipped by the tranish inquisition. Xir should be ringing the transphobe bat signal for dear life. Isn't that the doctrine?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:32 pm

dogen wrote: Hey folks -- did y'all see this:

https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/sciencin ... ghlin-asu/

BethAnn McLaughlin has been in the news previously for #MeToo & tenure denial shenanigans.

:popcorn:

PS Haven't posted for a while. Glad to see the 'Pit is still active. What's been happening?
The universe still trends its merry way to heat death and entropy rains on the parade.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:23 pm

John D wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Can anyone give me the tl;dr version of why service dog and ftp are fighting again? Are they going to divorce?
ftp is a commie baboon and Service Dog is calling zir out on zir's fuck-headedness.
I thought that we were all in favour of the proletariat toppling the bourgeoisie and destroying all ownership of property. Or was that last week?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by dogen » Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:11 pm

Hey folks -- did y'all see this:

https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/sciencin ... ghlin-asu/

BethAnn McLaughlin has been in the news previously for #MeToo & tenure denial shenanigans.

:popcorn:

PS Haven't posted for a while. Glad to see the 'Pit is still active. What's been happening?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:48 am

John D wrote: Personal bias... of course. I am not naturally gay... but if Service Dog was interested... he might be my first gay relationship. I think we would have to date first.... and then try some spooning or something. This would be a big change for me so I doubt it will ever happen. Still.... well... just being honest.
Take it to the back channel.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:28 am

I remember that Dispatches From the Culture Wars was the first blog I ever read when I got the original Kindle in 2007. I used to read it, and a few others on the 545 bus from Seattle to Redmond each evening. It used to be really good, and introduced me to the progressive movements in the US. It might still be good, but I stopped reading it when Two Cows began ripping on the Pit, and when the hatred for Thunderf00t came to light on the FfTB leaks.

I suppose it really just shows that TC is human like the rest of us, but I have/had only so much time to allocate to stuff like that.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by screwtape » Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:22 am

Service Dog wrote: Only if we do it in that cool black van.
Whatever you guys do, I think I should get shadchanus gelt.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:58 am

justinvacula wrote:
Skeptics ought to be enthusiastically embracing critical theory, and even post-modernism, because it does all the stuff skeptics claim to appreciate. Read that last paragraph again. Only a Status Quo Warrior would think that is undesirable. But instead they’ve only embraced the fringe abuses of theory, and have happily adopted only the practice of the worst writers to string gibberish into bad essays and books.
- PZ Myers, lol

https://archive.is/wz9HD
What any half intelligent skeptic would quickly notice about critical theory is that it misappropriates the concept of Theory from science while expecting it to have the same cachet. Of course, in science, a Theory is an inside-the-box explanation of a broad set of empirical observations which doesn't necessarily have direct empirical evidence, but consistently makes accurate predictions and thus is subject to falsification. In critical theory, it's transmuted to "an explanation that doesn't require empirical evidence".

A skeptic would also quickly notice the 'critical' in critical theory means "criticism under a Marxist framework assumed as axiomatic".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:29 am

Service Dog wrote: The incident took place in Louisville... which is where BLM issued a list of mafia-demands to local (cuban immigrant) businesses, saying "better put the letter on the door so your business is not f*cked with."
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/blm ... rotection/
When I moved to Miami in 2000, a piece of advice I heard from my real estate agent and a couple of locals about living in Miami was "don't fuck with the Cubans". So I doubt this would go as BLM planned.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:11 am

Only if we do it in that cool black van.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:01 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
screwtape wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Can anyone give me the tl;dr version of why service dog and ftp are fighting again? Are they going to divorce?
They're just preparing the ground for some stunning make-up sex.
We never were really that attached, but now that he has caught FTPDS (free thoughtpolice derangement syndrome) I wouldn't fuck him with John D's* dick even if he had one.
*hope I'm not doxing but the D stands for Dickless.
Personal bias... of course. I am not naturally gay... but if Service Dog was interested... he might be my first gay relationship. I think we would have to date first.... and then try some spooning or something. This would be a big change for me so I doubt it will ever happen. Still.... well... just being honest.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:30 am

Newsweek goes for a feelgood happy-ending angle, doesn't mention that Danielle is the extra-special kind of woman:
https://www.newsweek.com/woman-raises-1 ... ks-1523842

I see other sources referring to Muscato as a 'trans activist'. So unfair! Just because she's trans, they define her activism by her gender!

Every article should say "Danielle Muscato, a BLACK LIVES MATTER activist..."


The incident took place in Louisville... which is where BLM issued a list of mafia-demands to local (cuban immigrant) businesses, saying "better put the letter on the door so your business is not f*cked with."
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/blm ... rotection/

Their demands:
-Adequately represent the Black population of Louisville by having a minimum of 23% Black staff;

-Purchase a minimum of 23% inventory from Black retailers or make a recurring monthly donation of 1.5% of net sales to a local Black nonprofit or organization;

-Require diversity and inclusion training for all staff members on a bi-annual basis;

-And display a visible sign that increases awareness and shows support for the reparations movement.

Louisville BLM said they would rate compliance, using "social justice health and wellness ratings" from A-for-Ally to F-for-fail.


A+
https://pics.me.me/black-lives-matter-d ... 078537.png

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:13 am

justinvacula wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:34 am
Skeptics ought to be enthusiastically embracing critical theory, and even post-modernism, because it does all the stuff skeptics claim to appreciate. Read that last paragraph again. Only a Status Quo Warrior would think that is undesirable. But instead they’ve only embraced the fringe abuses of theory, and have happily adopted only the practice of the worst writers to string gibberish into bad essays and books.
- PZ Myers, lol

https://archive.is/wz9HD
That’s what gets me. These bozos are dead set on the idea that critical theory is evil, but over and over again they reveal that they haven’t actually read anything in the field, and don’t even have a grasp of critical theory 101
Peeze Pudding channels Terry Eagleton. You unsophisticated atheists just don't understand Christianity. Nobody literally believes..... Evergreen never happened.

In PZ's world there are a few good men and then bozos.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Hunt » Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:12 am

Seems Ed Brayton is not physically well these days:

https://web.archive.org/save/https://fr ... /#comments

Giving credit where credit's due, Brayton was one of the first to peg PZ as an asshole. The atheist-sphere would have done well to listen to him back in the day:
From:
https://www.michaelnugent.com/2015/01/2 ... -pz-myers/
Unfortunately, you can also find several examples of PZ Myers flat out lying about what I’ve said and done, which is hardly a surprise given his past behavior toward me.

To PZ, who is crazed in his obsession to insult and demean me with his lies, reality takes a bizarre turn when entering his mind.

No Gretchen, [PZ] is not just assuming that I disbelieve Dawkins’ retraction, he’s lying – again – when he says that I haven’t accepted it. In this comment I explicitly say that I do…

PZ, you really are just about the biggest asshole I have ever known… You’re a liar, PZ, and a first class, double-barrelled, fully automatic asshole.

Again, for any sane, rational person that would be the end of it. Which explains quite well why you won’t let it end now, PZ.

Nor am I at all alone in this judgment, I might add. PZ is often treated the way Manny Ramirez is treated by Boston Red Sox fans, who often can be heard saying “that’s just Manny being Manny.”

When he goes off on a completely unjustified attack on me like that… as he has several times in the past, I get numerous private emails from our mutual colleagues that say, in essence, “Look, we all know PZ is a jerk, he’s always been a jerk, but that’s just the way he is. You can’t let him provoke you like that.” Well, to be honest, I’m just not built that way.

You don’t have a clue about PZ’s “M.O.”. His MO is to start the personal attacks and then pretend to be above it all when they’re returned and he clams up. This isn’t the first time it’s happened and I doubt it will be the last. I’ve had this behavior aimed at me multiple times and I’m simply not going to play the passive victim.

As for the alleged childishness of “third party insults”, it had nothing to do with insults at all. It simply has to do with the fact – yes, it’s a fact – that PZ has a long history of this behavior that far too many people have just rolled their eyes at and excused it away because “oh that’s just the way he is”. Well screw that. The way he is isn’t acceptable to me, and when he aims that behavior at me he’s gonna get it blown right back at him.

PZ, on the other hand, seems to think that if it makes the other side look bad, then facts be damned, start firing; he seems completely unaware of the fact that doing so undermines our credibility when we do, as we usually do, have the evidence on our side

“Brayton loathes atheists, and would like to see them silenced.” Yeah, that’s perhaps the most ridiculous lie of all. I have written volumes on this blog defending atheists against the accusations of (mostly fundamentalist) Christians, and even more volumes defending free speech for absolutely everyone. The notion that I, of all people, wants to see atheists silenced is too ridiculous for words.

It should be clear right now that PZ has reached the point of being absolutely crazed in his antipathy to me and he has thrown all reason to the wind. This is what those with an extremist mentality do, they identify their enemies and seek to demean them and destroy them, not caring whether their attacks are rational and justified or not. Ironically, that’s the same behavior he no doubt finds appalling when done by the Jerry Falwell crowd.
I always wondered why in hell someone would bed down with another person so objectionable. I guess somehow they reconciled enough to do business with one another, which I guess is not uncommon, but shit, life is too short to spend it consorting with obnoxious people.

But anyway, fare well Ed Brayton. Best wishes. It's not unheard of to go into hospice and then come out of it and return to the land of the living.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by justinvacula » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:39 pm

Atheist Republic is on it! Armin has been doing great criticizing as he called it 'the woke cult.'

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by justinvacula » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:39 pm

‘Danielle’ Becomes The New ‘Karen’ After Kroger Store Incident

https://www.ibtimes.com/danielle-become ... nt-3025036

LOL

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Really? » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:42 pm

Looks like Dave did his good deed for the day:

He helped raise $14k+ for Kroger Andy!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/send-krogerandy-on-a-vaca

He currently gets $503/mo. from Patreon for doing nothing.

https://www.patreon.com/daniellemuscato

His numbers have been more or less stable for the past three years.

https://graphtreon.com/creator/daniellemuscato

I don't believe this bit of his Patreon pitch has changed since the beginning: "As many of my supporters are aware, I am currently housing-insecure. I'm staying with a friend on an airbed for now, but reaching $1000/mo on Patreon for my activism work will allow me to establish a more-permanent address."

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Sulman » Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:59 pm

I saw the name Muscato and thought "Can it be..."

What an ass.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Fegg » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:19 pm

justinvacula wrote:
Skeptics ought to be enthusiastically embracing critical theory, and even post-modernism, because it does all the stuff skeptics claim to appreciate. Read that last paragraph again. Only a Status Quo Warrior would think that is undesirable. But instead they’ve only embraced the fringe abuses of theory, and have happily adopted only the practice of the worst writers to string gibberish into bad essays and books.
- PZ Myers, lol

https://archive.is/wz9HD
He doesn't seem to realise that the word "critical" is being used with at least two completely incompatible meanings.

Traditional "critical thinking" consists in trying to prevent your own desires and prejudices from influencing your conclusions. What he says Foucault calls "critique" is all about resisting the ideas of ideological enemies.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Pitchguest » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:00 pm

justinvacula wrote:
Skeptics ought to be enthusiastically embracing critical theory, and even post-modernism, because it does all the stuff skeptics claim to appreciate. Read that last paragraph again. Only a Status Quo Warrior would think that is undesirable. But instead they’ve only embraced the fringe abuses of theory, and have happily adopted only the practice of the worst writers to string gibberish into bad essays and books.
- PZ Myers, lol

https://archive.is/wz9HD
Wait. I think I still have the postmodern FTB generator bookmarked.

Yep!



http://herbert.the-little-red-haired-gi ... index.html

Still as good as I remember it. Courtesy of Parody Accountant.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:35 pm

How Dave Muskrat imagines himself in a fight:



How Dave Muskrat would actually fare:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by justinvacula » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:34 am

Skeptics ought to be enthusiastically embracing critical theory, and even post-modernism, because it does all the stuff skeptics claim to appreciate. Read that last paragraph again. Only a Status Quo Warrior would think that is undesirable. But instead they’ve only embraced the fringe abuses of theory, and have happily adopted only the practice of the worst writers to string gibberish into bad essays and books.
- PZ Myers, lol

https://archive.is/wz9HD

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:50 am

screwtape wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Can anyone give me the tl;dr version of why service dog and ftp are fighting again? Are they going to divorce?
They're just preparing the ground for some stunning make-up sex.
We never were really that attached, but now that he has caught FTPDS (free thoughtpolice derangement syndrome) I wouldn't fuck him with John D's* dick even if he had one.
*hope I'm not doxing but the D stands for Dickless.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:40 am

Service Dog wrote:
Enough of your goofy diversion tactics. Did you even watch Dr. Drew's interview with Dr. Vladamir Zelenko?
I watched it, he basically whined about the medical community not taking anecdotal evidence (presumably his) seriously enough.
Apparently he submitted a study on July 3 on his hydroxy claims for peer review so there is and should be more feedback on whether his claims may have some merit. https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1
An example of one of the comments about his study:
Received: 23 July 2020
Commenter: Ken Madden, M.D., Ph.D.
The commenter has declared there is no conflict of interests.
Comment: Unfortunately, the lack of information on the comparison population greatly weakens any statements regarding efficacy of the proposed treatment. There are many potential reasons for differences in hospitalizations and mortality between treated patients and an unmatched retrospective comparison group. The treated patients all evidently presented to a Family Physician office. If other patients in the community were presenting to Emergency Rooms or Urgent Care, one would naturally expect sicker patients and a higher percentage of admissions. Others have pointed out the potential higher ages within the comparison group, which would certainly slant that group toward worse outcomes. Other differences in risk factors between groups could do this as well.

Such criticisms do not diminish the possibility of benefit of the proposed treatment, which this report argues is a relatively safe one. However, it should not be considered substantial evidence of such.
It would be great if the hydroxy cocktail actually worked, I'm all for useful treatments for covid. So far the claims of success including Zelenko's claim seem to all include a caveat that they don't work on people with serious, advanced symptoms but work great on people that aren't that sick. If the ones that don't show a positive result are erased from the study as being too far advanced in their illness for the treatment to work that is cherry picking results and is dishonest methodology.
There is no way to tell whether those people would have got better without the treatment unless you conduct large scale tests using rigorous methodology. Further, you would need to test to see whether zinc alone, zepac alone or zinc and zepac together worked as well or better than with hydroxy. If I remember correctly, and that may be as unreliable or worse than the average anecdote, one preliminary small study had the cocktail with poorer outcomes, than no treatment, and zinc alone as slightly better than no treatment.
As for my "goofy diversion tactics". If someone is frequently wrong, has a history of dishonesty, or is an attention whore that runs sensationalist pseudo therapeutic reality show like "Celebrity Rehab with Dr Drew" or "Sex Rehab with Dr. Drew" I consider it as a red flag for their reliability and a good reason to question their claims.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:29 am

Writing a novel containing a racist character is now itself racist:

Matt Lieberman faces calls to drop out of Georgia Senate race over 'racist and discriminatory' tropes in 2018 book
[T]he book, which centers around a main character named Benno who has delusions about owning a slave and believes that Black people have mystical connections to animals and plants.

Benno, an older white man from the South, frequently uses a racial slur [nigger] in the novel and describes some KKK members as “basically good people.”

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:59 am

Did a vehicle come from somewhere out there just to land in the Andes?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by The Yeti » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:13 am

I haven't been on here in a while, i think most of is agree that it has been years since the baboons have been relevant enough to be worth trolling. Every once in a while though, one of the old targets of mockery from the pit will blunder thrir way into another 15 mins of infamy.

Today is ome of those days. Everyone's favorite grifter "Danielle" Muscato has stepped on her dick on twitter, and the reaction has been glorious. S/h/it is being absolutely destroted on right wing, left wing, and even libertarian twitter. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by screwtape » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:15 am

KiwiInOz wrote: Can anyone give me the tl;dr version of why service dog and ftp are fighting again? Are they going to divorce?
They're just preparing the ground for some stunning make-up sex.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:04 am

KiwiInOz wrote: Can anyone give me the tl;dr version of why service dog and ftp are fighting again? Are they going to divorce?
ftp is a commie baboon and Service Dog is calling zir out on zir's fuck-headedness.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:51 am

Buck Angel rides the Sybian mega-vibrator on Howard Stern:

https://txxx.com/videos/15233985/buck-a ... romo=10376


Buck Angel does not ride the Social Justice bandwagon:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:42 am

free thoughtpolice wrote: So he used his big reality star status to try to silence/deplatform/ big tech censor someone that pointed out his mistakes.
You woulda had a good point-- if you'd simply pointed-out that Dr Drew's nonsense copyright-claim against the Dr Droops video was incredibly similar to Akilah Hughes' nonsense copyright-claim against Sargon's video.

But you mucked-up your argument by claiming Drew "used his big reality star status" to do so. How so? Didn't Drew just hit the DMCA complaint button on YouTube, like anyone could?

I also enjoy the disconnect between you advocating -for- censorship of wrong-opinions about Covid/ but -against- Dr Drew trying to get his own wrong opinions censored.
After legal action he apologized and endorsed Fauci.
You got that wrong, too. In his apology video-- Dr Drew indeed endorsed Fauci. But that wasn't new. All of Drew's previous covid predictions-- excerpted in the Dr Droops video-- were accompanied by Drew's caveat that viewers should look to Dr Fauci for the best information. Dr Drew said Fauci is his "north star" on these matters.

You cite wikipedia-- quoting Dr. Drew's "press-induced panic" comment. Here's the actual clip. Keep listening past those 3 words & hear what Drew says about Fauci:
https://youtu.be/HKpuq0wkF8g?t=58
These days I am having trouble believing anything reality show hosts say. Call me cynical.
Hang on a sec. How is your cynical disbelief any-different than Dr Drew's cynicism about the 'press induced panic'? Some of the snippets in your Dr Droops video-- which appear to show Dr Drew scoffing at the seriousness of the virus-- are clips of him reacting to Joy Behar on The View preaching maximum doom & gloom about Covid. Drew said people should not take their cues from Joy Behar, but from Dr Fauci.

Enough of your goofy diversion tactics. Did you even watch Dr. Drew's interview with Dr. Vladamir Zelenko?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:31 am

Can anyone give me the tl;dr version of why service dog and ftp are fighting again? Are they going to divorce?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:34 pm

Service Dog wrote:
Your 'Dr Droops' video was posted April 2. It contains clips of Dr Drew speaking on February 6.
Feb. 6 to Mar. 31.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:19 pm

service dog wrote:
Dr Drew responded to the Dr Droops video, one day after it was posted. He apologized for comparing the mortality rate of Covid-19 to the mortality rate of Influenza. Apparently, this is not kosher-- because the two stats are collected in wildly-different ways. So the Flu rate can be reliably compared to previous years (collected & calculated the same way each year). And the Covid rate could be reliably compared to prior days-or-weeks' Covid rate (as long as data was collected & calculated in a consistent way. ((Which it isn't.)) But the two data-streams are not reliably interchangeable.) https://www.contagionlive.com/news/why- ... equivalent

Dr. Drew's mea culpa strikes me as honest & sufficient. And he deserves praise for-- on the day of his apology video-- also signing-up to volunteer as a frontline physician in Covid-19 hotspots.

According to wikipedia:
[quoteViews on COVID-19
Between February to Mar 2020, Drew made a series of statements concerning the COVID-19 outbreak where he downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic, stating that it was not as bad as the flu, and suggested that it was a "press-induced panic".[32] A 5-minute compilation of the statements was posted by DroopsDr on YouTube, but was temporarily taken down "due to a copyright claim by Drew Pinsky Inc." The video was later re-instated after several attorneys and many others defended DroopsDr.[33]

Drew subsequently apologized and urged people to follow the advice of Anthony Fauci.[32][34]][/quote]

So he used his big reality star status to try to silence/deplatform/ big tech censor someone that pointed out his mistakes. After legal action he apologized and endorsed Fauci. The guy that endorsed Fauci, the advocate of rigorous scientific method is back to endorsing advocates of giving more credence to anecdotal evidence.
To be fair, in the early days of the pandemic there was even less known about the bug than is known now, and there was more speculation because there wasn't much established and many were uncertain and made mistakes. He was wrong and eventually admitted it which is good. On the bad side, he appears to be back to endorsing a looser approach.
These days I am having trouble believing anything reality show hosts say. Call me cynical.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:38 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
There is that. This, for instance, is my preferred trad rucksack.

Swedish M1939.

Looks like you could be buried with it. Or have been.
Thank you. That’s a very nice observation.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:25 pm

Your 'Dr Droops' video was posted April 2. It contains clips of Dr Drew speaking on February 6.

I see a pattern. Much like the banned Dr Stella Immanuel video, you have an aversion to addressing the contents of the thing you're replying-to. Instead, you attack the credibility of the source. Using prior statements from the source. Which are indeed unflattering. But also not-quite relevant to the current assertion.

Dr Drew responded to the Dr Droops video, one day after it was posted. He apologized for comparing the mortality rate of Covid-19 to the mortality rate of Influenza. Apparently, this is not kosher-- because the two stats are collected in wildly-different ways. So the Flu rate can be reliably compared to previous years (collected & calculated the same way each year). And the Covid rate could be reliably compared to prior days-or-weeks' Covid rate (as long as data was collected & calculated in a consistent way. ((Which it isn't.)) But the two data-streams are not reliably interchangeable.) https://www.contagionlive.com/news/why- ... equivalent

Dr. Drew's mea culpa strikes me as honest & sufficient. And he deserves praise for-- on the day of his apology video-- also signing-up to volunteer as a frontline physician in Covid-19 hotspots.

However-- I do not wish to sully the pristine standard of purity required for the free thoughtpolice evidentiary Seal Of Approval.

So please tell me which experts should we rely upon henceforth?--

What are the names of these adequate physicians, whose Covid-predictions from early February do not contradict their current opinion?

Name one.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:21 pm

Service Dog wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
No, wait, my favorite thing is that there's no peer reviewed study. So it's just like Dr. Immanuel's zero deaths per 350. An empirical anecdote.
Those were statistics provide by Island Health Region, all documented and reviewed. That is completely different from an anecdote.
https://youtu.be/3ywj-PZTt4g?t=1250
Ok, I'll bite:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:03 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
No, wait, my favorite thing is that there's no peer reviewed study. So it's just like Dr. Immanuel's zero deaths per 350. An empirical anecdote.
Those were statistics provide by Island Health Region, all documented and reviewed. That is completely different from an anecdote.
https://youtu.be/3ywj-PZTt4g?t=1250

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:41 pm



Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:26 pm

Driftless wrote: But the virus will be all over in 2-3 weeks, so by the time any of this gets anywhere it won't matter.
Just that this sort of Orwellian police state stuff is being openly suggested, is deeply alarming.

I agree that the no-longer-officially-a-pandemic is nearly played out. But the Dems need to keep the hysteria and damage to the economy going for another three months. Over that span, they also need to keep Joe Biden from talking for more than five minutes straight, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg from kicking the bucket.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:20 pm

How does the EMP blast over Dyatlov Pass rank?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Pitchguest » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:44 pm

screwtape wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: Seriously, though, it's mad. The explosion was caused by 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate that reportedly had just been stored there at the dock since 2014. Now the port's completely ruined. 2,700 tons!
I was a little concerned we'd lost our crown, but the Halifax explosion still wins at 2.9kilotons.
Heh! I did some reading and the biggest explosion after Halifax was Hiroshima at a whopping 15 kilotons. The explosion in Beirut is the second biggest. Chernobyl, despite what the series and documentaries have told you, isn't even in the same ballpark, at a low but still devastating 0.3 kilotons. The Tunguska event apparently clocked in at 3-30 MEGATONS. Imagine the noise THAT made.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:05 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: A professor of medicine, a medical ethics lay professor, and a 'bioethicist" call for mandatory covid vaccination of every American by the federal government:

Defeat COVID-19 by requiring vaccination for all. It's not un-American, it's patriotic.
Make vaccines free, don't allow religious or personal objections, and punish those who won't be vaccinated. They are threatening the lives of others.
Issue date-stamped ID cards; deny anyone not carrying one access to public transit or air travel, appearing in public; revoke tax credits, deny them government services.

NB: The US Federal government has no police power.

But the virus will be all over in 2-3 weeks, so by the time any of this gets anywhere it won't matter.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:08 am

A professor of medicine, a medical ethics lay professor, and a 'bioethicist" call for mandatory covid vaccination of every American by the federal government:

Defeat COVID-19 by requiring vaccination for all. It's not un-American, it's patriotic.
Make vaccines free, don't allow religious or personal objections, and punish those who won't be vaccinated. They are threatening the lives of others.
Issue date-stamped ID cards; deny anyone not carrying one access to public transit or air travel, appearing in public; revoke tax credits, deny them government services.

NB: The US Federal government has no police power.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:30 am

screwtape wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: Seriously, though, it's mad. The explosion was caused by 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate that reportedly had just been stored there at the dock since 2014. Now the port's completely ruined. 2,700 tons!
I was a little concerned we'd lost our crown, but the Halifax explosion still wins at 2.9kilotons.
That time when the antimatter feed came out of line with the singularity drive back in Tunguska 1908 was fairly impressive too.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:25 am

Brive1987 wrote:
There is that. This, for instance, is my preferred trad rucksack.

Swedish M1939.

Looks like you could be buried with it. Or have been.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by screwtape » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:36 am

Pitchguest wrote: Seriously, though, it's mad. The explosion was caused by 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate that reportedly had just been stored there at the dock since 2014. Now the port's completely ruined. 2,700 tons!
I was a little concerned we'd lost our crown, but the Halifax explosion still wins at 2.9kilotons.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:01 am

MarcusAu wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Could be swung for Father’s Day ...

[img]https..://i.imgur.com/53j0X3s.jpg[/img]

Figuratively speaking.
I would have thought that half the appeal was that you can exercise with something that looks like it was manufactured circa 1910.

TradKet.
There is that. This, for instance, is my preferred trad rucksack.

Swedish M1939.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:12 am

Brive1987 wrote: Could be swung for Father’s Day ...



Figuratively speaking.
I would have thought that half the appeal was that you can exercise with something that looks like it was manufactured circa 1910.

TradKet.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:32 am

Service Dog wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:01 am
John D wrote: Sargon wins legal fees against Akilah.... haha. $40k!
Sargon sez the judge has been promoted to the appeals court, so if she seeks to appeal-- she'll go-before the same judge.


So, Dankula points-out, maybe she shouldn't have tried to cancel the the judge, yesterday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpzyZh9 ... .be&t=1199


Who can blame her for feeling cheated. What was the point of Obama appointing all of those activist judges if a girl can't get the correct decision? Like all good atheist skeptics I once scoffed at the wingnut "activist judge" accusations, but not any more. Robert Barnes (see Viva Frei vlog) has said a number of times that SJWism has been infecting legal education for quite a while with students taught to construct an interpretation of the law to reach the desired (i.e. on the "right side of history") conclusion. His contention is that left-leaning judges are particularly prone to making political decisions. Judge Sullivan for instance, or the mongoloid who handled the Roger Stone fiasco. Characters like Hughes really do appear to feel entitled to a judgement that supports their politics.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:12 am

Of course if you have big enough nondetachable ball sacks, your problems are solved.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:08 am

Could be swung for Father’s Day ...



Figuratively speaking.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:27 pm

Keating wrote: A gym buddy of mine has also been sold on the kettlebells path. He comes from a running background. When I saw him again after lockdown, he seems to no longer be as keen, but did manage to break a rib staying at home.
Home is a dangerous place.

I'm not a zealot for them. I have just found them really effective for both general fitness and conditioning, and ramping up for co-training with martial arts.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Keating » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:27 pm

A gym buddy of mine has also been sold on the kettlebells path. He comes from a running background. When I saw him again after lockdown, he seems to no longer be as keen, but did manage to break a rib staying at home.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:52 pm

Oh, and I wouldn't worry about dumbbell curls. They are for posers. Isolation exercises like that are fine if you wan't to look like Arnie, but are not good for building functional muscle or for weight loss. I went from a 34 to a 31 waist when I got back into a regular routine and without changing my diet just because my core had strengthened and leaned out. Kettlebells will work your whole arm and shoulder. Your biceps will come up fine and you'll have more definition and strength in your triceps.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12516

by KiwiInOz » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:42 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: snip

Fast walked 9km, 70 push-ups.

Meh. Life is bubble now.

snip
I can recommend getting stuck into kettle bells. Learn how to handle them correctly and you get a full body dynamic workout that provides for both aerobic and anaerobic fitness, gets you lean and strong relatively quickly, and you don't have to spend hours doing the exercises or grunting under heavy weights.
Hmm. Thanks. I’ll YouTube it.

I was doing curls with 10kg dumbbells ... until I pulled something in my arm.
Figured working on proper technique (ie slow chest to ground and full arm extension up) push-ups might be a safer resistance option.

But I’ll have a look.
I'd start with someone like Greg Brookes (https://kettlebellsworkouts.com/). A random search can get you boofhead wannabee Russian spetsnaz.

Start at 10 - 12 kgs if you aren't in the best condition. 16 kgs is relatively light once you've mastered the movements and have got your dynamic strength, but it still gives a good workout if you use it consistently, so no need to go to 20 kg and beyond unless you are training for some event.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:15 pm

justinvacula wrote: Skepticon coming August 15th....no schedule of speakers, not much info at all
While we won’t be able to do Skepticon in person like we usually do, we are planning on doing some things here on the internet.
So much for the traditional spreading of STDs.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:20 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#12513

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:53 am

Leaked video of what happened before George Floyd was on the ground shows an entirely different story:

https://spectator.org/george-floyd-deat ... gy-report/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Pitchguest » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:16 am

Brive1987 wrote: *bang*

"Lebanon" "Human" OH!



Seriously, though, it's mad. The explosion was caused by 2,700 tons of ammonium nitrate that reportedly had just been stored there at the dock since 2014. Now the port's completely ruined. 2,700 tons!

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