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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:25 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:42 am



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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:28 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
The Libertarian this year is even more whack-o than your usual libertarian: she echoes the 'systemic racism' claims, only her solution is to eliminate the system.

I don't know if Jo Jorgenson is a true woke believer, or the party believes it can best expand among the woke, but that's the direction they're going this year. In 2016, the LP nominees made the electorally disastrous decision to praise Clinton while denigrating Trump, so expansion strategies do not seem their forte. I suspect that despite 15-20% of the population being actively open to supporting a third party, the Libertarian Party this year will have its lowest percentage vote total ever and donations will dwindle to the point the future of the Party is at risk.

Right now, Jorgenson if so off the radar, when you do a Bing search of "Libertarian Party Leader", she turns up 21st in the "related people" list, behind Vermin Surpreme, Clint Eastwood, John McAfee, and some guy named Aubrey Dunn Jr. that doesn't even have a picture.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:48 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
You might call it tendentious twaddle written by an academic parasite, but that doesn't take anything away from the decline of American (sensu stricto USA) hegemony playing out across the world stage. The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD and the Brits at least managed from 1600s to 1960ish. How long will the USA be a world power before it has a civil war between the mask wearers and the free breathers and collapses into mehdom?
I would think that nearly everyone on the Pit is competent enough in logic to know showing an argument is invalid doesn't prove the conclusion false, so your first sentence goes without saying. Did you post that link because you thought it was a well-presented argument, or just that you liked the conclusion? You would have been better off making the case yourself.

Although, maybe not, because your singling out of the mask issue seems to mark you as the sort of foreign anti-American satirized in the 1994 film Barcelona, where they wrongly assume the American issues that seem noisiest in their local circles are the active drivers of events.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by justinvacula » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:30 pm

Lol PZ Myers on David Silverman...witch of the week status once again

https://archive.is/XIN2A
Here we go again. David Silverman is racing rightwards, and is considering voting for Trump, because he doesn’t like the idea of defunding the police or what the Right are calling “Woke Math”.
Lol, is PZ on the defund the police bandwagon now?
Nobody changed, Dave. If you’re seriously considering voting Republican now, you were never on the side of the Left, which we should have figured out from all the CPAC chasing you were doing.
So now because David is considering Trump voting years ago when he was at CPAC he was a super secret Republican/lying? Lol they're still mad about CPAC.
Biden & Harris are very much center left politicians, so all the caterwauling about how radically socialist they are is absurd — the people I know who are unhappy with the Democratic candidates are rejecting them because they aren’t Left enough, which is actually an honest position.
Yah, Green New Deal, possibly banning fracking, BLM totally center left
They are explaining that math has often been used to justify oppression, whether it’s that slaves only count as 3/5ths of a person, or that the people of African nations have an average IQ of 70. Do you disagree?


No, it's not math that's oppressing, it's laws and attitudes.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:29 pm

Add Poland to the list of countries showing COVID-19 caused excess mortality is related to the severity of the past 2-3 flu seasons, and thus the relative proportion of near end-of-life people in the population who normally would have died of the flu in the previous few years. In Poland's case, they had 3 consecutive bad flu seasons, and no excess mortality due to COVID-19.
While there's not nearly enough evidence to confidently conclude it yet, if it turns out that SARS-CoV-2 was an only slightly worse than typical flu virus, and epidemiologists were fooled into thinking it was much deadlier than it actually was by not realizing the near end-of-life excess population, leading to a grotesque overreaction by nearly every country except Sweden, then a lot of people are going to look very stupid.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:15 pm

Service Dog wrote: I don't know which lessens the madness-- Trump or Biden winning. More Trump lets the Left continue their daddy-issues tantrum, with no self-reflection. Maybe putting Biden & Kamala-the-magic-negro-vagina-identity-politics-token in power-- changes the dynamic. (Flatten the curve!)
I'm afraid it would be more akin to crossing the Event Horizon. Once in power (either by controlling both Houses of Congress or via abuse of executive orders) they will in short order:

-- Grant citizenship to all eleven million illegal immigrants ... which will turn out to be closer to thirty million;
-- Open the border to allow unlimited numbers of new registered Democrats illegal immigrants to enter and become instant citizens;
-- Declare DC a state;
-- Abolish the Electoral College.

To get around the unconstitutional aspect of these measures, they will:
-- Pack the Supreme Court.

And, Poof! Our Republic is gone. Sorry, Ben: we gave it go.

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by justinvacula » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:15 pm

Atheists for Trump? David Silverman reacts to Biden naming Harris with ‘Are You Serious?’ face, saying he might VOTE RED - Russia Today

https://www.rt.com/usa/497867-atheist-flips-to-trump/

Silverman's tweet: 31.4k likes :o

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:11 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: Are there any legitimate third party options for you guys to vote for. It does seem that you have the rock and the hard place (or devil and the deep blue sea, for the religious) well covered.
No.

Kanye doesn't count.

The Libertarian this year is even more whack-o than your usual libertarian: she echoes the 'systemic racism' claims, only her solution is to eliminate the system.

The Greens should all be locked in padded cells. Then shot. Then ground into organic mulch. That last one is a mitzvah.

I expect a center-right populist party will arise sometime next year, with Tucker Carlson instrumental in its formation. I'm center-left, but it'd be better than the authoritarian radical left that the Dem party has become.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:44 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Comment I posted today on Politiwoke, in response to a TDS sufferer responding to another jaded liberal like me wondering where the 'lesser of two evils' line actually lies:
I wrote:Trump is a narcissist, a bombast, and a boor. He's inept, play-acting at president.

But I closely observed Kamala Harris' ruthless climb up the CA Dem party machine. She is utterly devoid of ethics, lacks a moral compass, has no sense of loyalty and will stab an ally in the back without hesitation. She has no regard for the rule of law, routinely having abused the power of her offices. She is vindictive, often sadistically so. Her only agenda is aquiring personal power. I believe her to be a clinical sociopath.

Harris could well soon be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Were she to enter it, she would prove a despot, ruling by fiat, ignoring Congress, flaunting the Constitution, and punishing all who stood in her way. In short, Kamala Harris is a threat to our Republic. This goes far beyond 'lesser of two evils'.
Are there any legitimate third party options for you guys to vote for. It does seem that you have the rock and the hard place (or devil and the deep blue sea, for the religious) well covered.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:26 pm

Comment I posted today on Politiwoke, in response to a TDS sufferer responding to another jaded liberal like me wondering where the 'lesser of two evils' line actually lies:
I wrote:Trump is a narcissist, a bombast, and a boor. He's inept, play-acting at president.

But I closely observed Kamala Harris' ruthless climb up the CA Dem party machine. She is utterly devoid of ethics, lacks a moral compass, has no sense of loyalty and will stab an ally in the back without hesitation. She has no regard for the rule of law, routinely having abused the power of her offices. She is vindictive, often sadistically so. Her only agenda is aquiring personal power. I believe her to be a clinical sociopath.

Harris could well soon be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Were she to enter it, she would prove a despot, ruling by fiat, ignoring Congress, flaunting the Constitution, and punishing all who stood in her way. In short, Kamala Harris is a threat to our Republic. This goes far beyond 'lesser of two evils'.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:13 pm

jugheadnaut wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote:
It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". ...
Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
I said it was a warning, not an ad hominem dismissal. I did actually read the first couple of paragraphs, and then skimmed another couple of paragraphs farther down and saw it was exactly the tendentious, pseudo-intellectual drivel I was expecting. My thanks to Service Dog for enacting the labor of a fuller demolition, and especially for showing what a lazy parasite this guy is.
Your definition of demolition and my definition are a little bit different. This is how I saw Service Dog's demolition play out.



You might call it tendentious twaddle written by an academic parasite, but that doesn't take anything away from the decline of American (sensu stricto USA) hegemony playing out across the world stage. The Roman Empire lasted from 8 BC - 5 AD and the Brits at least managed from 1600s to 1960ish. How long will the USA be a world power before it has a civil war between the mask wearers and the free breathers and collapses into mehdom?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 pm

...the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:52 pm

Service Dog wrote: top of the page nightmare fuel
Tulsi Gabbard still provides the gold standard in exorcisms of this particular demon.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:52 pm

Service Dog wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: the Democratic Party have adopted a scorched earth policy and are actively damaging US institutions.... probably won't survive the Democratic Party if they carry on the way they are.
I don't know which lessens the madness-- Trump or Biden winning. More Trump lets the Left continue their daddy-issues tantrum, with no self-reflection. Maybe putting Biden & Kamala-the-magic-negro-vagina-identity-politics-token in power-- changes the dynamic. (Flatten the curve!)

More Trump could = a Dem vs Repub civil war. But maybe a Biden win confines the civil war to within Left & Right of the Dem party.


(I'm halfway thru watching 'The Year Of Living Dangerously', tonite. Brink of civil war in Indonesia, between coldwar US-supported dictator, vs. starving Muslim Commie populist fanatics.)
My friend's grandfather was one of the six generals captured and killed by the 30 September Movement militants in 1965.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:03 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: the Democratic Party have adopted a scorched earth policy and are actively damaging US institutions.... probably won't survive the Democratic Party if they carry on the way they are.
I don't know which lessens the madness-- Trump or Biden winning. More Trump lets the Left continue their daddy-issues tantrum, with no self-reflection. Maybe putting Biden & Kamala-the-magic-negro-vagina-identity-politics-token in power-- changes the dynamic. (Flatten the curve!)

More Trump could = a Dem vs Repub civil war. But maybe a Biden win confines the civil war to within Left & Right of the Dem party.


(I'm halfway thru watching 'The Year Of Living Dangerously', tonite. Brink of civil war in Indonesia, between coldwar US-supported dictator, vs. starving Muslim Commie populist fanatics.)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:56 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote:
It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". ...
Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
I said it was a warning, not an ad hominem dismissal. I did actually read the first couple of paragraphs, and then skimmed another couple of paragraphs farther down and saw it was exactly the tendentious, pseudo-intellectual drivel I was expecting. My thanks to Service Dog for enacting the labor of a fuller demolition, and especially for showing what a lazy parasite this guy is.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:26 pm

fuzzy wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: without fucking up other stuff.
yes what eventually shut the old place down* was that they needed to set up a sewage plant to handle all the tourist stuff, and there may have been some bacterial leakage decades ago which raised some of bacteria levels downstream.

and as with all things everything is way way better than it was decades ago in the USA because we've been handling this stuff, despite what CNN wants you to read because that's all you ever read you a******

Hate to disappoint you, but I've spent years dealing with onerous and impractical regulations to keep my business activities going. It took a lifetime of hard work of work and investment to do it. It is frustrating and a gamble, but I kept at it and it has paid off for me.
The fact that I am a critic of Trump, an incompetent criminal that is doing damage to America and her allies doesn't mean I'm some kind of crazed leftist. I dislike Rachel Maddow as much as Sean Hannity.
So, at least I know where you stand.


















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: along with course many other abuses

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:52 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:00 pm
Sounds like everyone has decided on who they are going to vote for.
There is only one choice. I don't understand people. There are people who consider themselves rational (and superior to the rest of us) who cannot seem to understand that the Democratic Party have adopted a scorched earth policy and are actively damaging US institutions, perhaps irreparably so if they get elected. Their lust for power and BAMN attitude is evident, if it wasn't three years ago. Trump is not the one wrecking the system. He governs within the constitution, whatever you think of his policy. The left show no reticence in tearing it down if it helps them in their power grab. While not perfect, the framers constructed the constitooshun in such a way that it survives bad presidents, but it probably won't survive the Democratic Party if they carry on the way they are. And to think I celebrated the election of Obama. He accelerated the corruption of the security services, packed the courts with activists, engaged in mass surveillance of opponents, mushroomed the statute books and to top it all off, got raped by Putin when he believed his own bullshit and thought his magnificence would win Putin over if he gave him goodies. Uranium One was part of that process. Putin fucked the US over, their agents even laughing about how easy it was. The Russian collusion bullshit was intended to shift focus onto Trump and distract from who really screwed the Russia pooch.

Talking of complete and utter unawareness, Brian Stelter asks us where the Lefty equivalent of Fox News is. There are apparently no virulently anti-Trump media outlets. Is the man for real?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:38 pm

fuzzy wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:24 pm
So as a very few of you may remember, I live near an abandoned amusement park. It has recently been acquired by BassPro, and they are spending a bunch of money fixing it up into a fishing retreat. Plowing down a lot of old things that need plowing down, and hopefully preserving a few bits of memorabilia. It really is a beautiful location where a huge cold water spring releases into a place on the way from the Ozark plateau down for the river.

Dogpatch is the home of the cartoon series Li'l Abner, created by an artist named Al Capp, who lost his leg to a trolley car accident when he was 9 years old and as a consequence grew up very cynical, and this comic strip really is a work of genius which I recommend anybody who wants to look into it.

Much like Li'l Abner himself, I consider Fearless Fosdick to be a role model and my personal hero...
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Beans!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:16 pm

Driftless wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:11 am
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Chicago BLM: "looting is a form of reparations"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ntown.html
To all of the corporations who are in support of BLM: are you going to open up your buildings so that people can get "reparations"? You have insurance so it is OK.
Funny you should say that. Just saw a video of a truck driver in South Africa standing by the side of the road watching her crashed truck get looted. She was on the phone explaining, perhaps to the boss, that the cops were there but they'd told everyone to keep looting because it'd all have been insured.

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:14 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:26 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: without fucking up other stuff.
yes what eventually shut the old place down* was that they needed to set up a sewage plant to handle all the tourist stuff, and there may have been some bacterial leakage decades ago which raised some of bacteria levels downstream.

and as with all things everything is way way better than it was decades ago in the USA because we've been handling this stuff, despite what CNN wants you to read because that's all you ever read you a******



*: along with course many other abuses

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:48 pm

fuzzy wrote: So as a very few of you may remember, I live near an abandoned amusement park. It has recently been acquired by BassPro, and they are spending a bunch of money fixing it up into a fishing retreat. Plowing down a lot of old things that need plowing down, and hopefully preserving a few bits of memorabilia. It really is a beautiful location where a huge cold water spring releases into a place on the way from the Ozark plateau down for the river.

Dogpatch is the home of the cartoon series Li'l Abner, created by an artist named Al Capp, who lost his leg to a trolley car accident when he was 9 years old and as a consequence grew up very cynical, and this comic strip really is a work of genius which I recommend anybody who wants to look into it.
I've dipped my toe into the sportsfishing industry, working with lodges and doing guiding, making tackle for instance. I loved the work and did OK moneywise. Bass Pro people were around 25+ tears ago checking out the potential of the people I knew.
With any luck, they will create some jobs without fucking up other stuff.

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:39 pm

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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:24 pm

So as a very few of you may remember, I live near an abandoned amusement park. It has recently been acquired by BassPro, and they are spending a bunch of money fixing it up into a fishing retreat. Plowing down a lot of old things that need plowing down, and hopefully preserving a few bits of memorabilia. It really is a beautiful location where a huge cold water spring releases into a place on the way from the Ozark plateau down for the river.

Dogpatch is the home of the cartoon series Li'l Abner, created by an artist named Al Capp, who lost his leg to a trolley car accident when he was 9 years old and as a consequence grew up very cynical, and this comic strip really is a work of genius which I recommend anybody who wants to look into it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:21 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:05 pm

It chooses you, you don't choose it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:03 pm

Service Dog wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
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:bjarte:
Skux life, bro. Skux life.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:56 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:22 pm

jugheadnaut wrote:
It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". However, I'll give him some credit for amusingly looking like a younger version of Skipper from Gilligan's Island.
https://i2.wp.com/www.fr24news.com/a2/w ... C349&ssl=1
Hmmmm. I seem to recall someone being upset that people could discount an argument from a person because of labels and preconceptions.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:24 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:08 pm

Thuh 'Merican Dweem, bebah

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Stankeye » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:33 pm

Well for some reason I wonder in this environment if this bombshell article from Matt Taibbi will actually have any affect.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-spies ... XUku1JHT2E

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:56 am

BoxNDox wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:17 am
Kids aren't a much risk of dying, but they can easily be carriers. And the people that take care of them tend to be older. Sometimes a lot older.
The standard narrative smugly held right now by people who think they're being science-y is that it recently came to light that asymptomatic carriers can be infectious, hence children and the mask-less are huge disease vectors. Problem 1 with this is that it's not a new discovery; asymptomatic transmission is known to occur with most flu viruses. Problem 2 is the mental model they construct around it, where asymptomatic or very mildly symptomatic carriers are basically fountains of virus-laden respiratory droplets and aerosol clouds.

In truth, these carriers emit very little virus and the great majority of transmission instances occur when a healthy person spends several minutes a short distance from or in an enclosed space with a fully symptomatic carrier. Hence you get highly counter-narrative scientific results like in this new paper, studying 23 family clusters in Greece. 60% of individuals per cluster contracted COVID-19 and while there was documented adult to adult and adult to child transmission, there wasn't a single case of child to child or child to adult transmission. This was because children tended to be asymptomatic or have a much lower viral load than adults (0 children developed serious illness, while 9% of adults did).

Or the results from Sweden, which kept their schools open throughout the pandemic. 0.05% of school children acquired COVID-19, with 0 deaths, and no increased risk for teachers over other professions.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:54 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by fuzzy » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:47 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:18 am

BoxNDox wrote: And FWIW, the 13-year-old that lived near me, now dead of Covid-19, isn't any less dead for having been a rare exception.
Are you referring to the girl, youngest Covid death in Oklahoma, who was also 3-years-into a systemic case of the incurable auto-immune disorder Scleroderma?
https://www.koco.com/article/family-rem ... g/33302589

"Systemic scleroderma can involve the skin, esophagus, gastrointestinal tract (stomach and bowels), lungs, kidneys, heart and other internal organs. It can also affect blood vessels, muscles and joints. The tissues of involved organs become hard and fibrous, causing them to function less efficiently." "SSc carries a survival rate of only 55% at 10 years postdiagnosis—the highest risk of fatality among connective tissue diseases."

That girl "never had a cough or fever", according to her mother:
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/it-happ ... s-1.637822

The family says they wore masks, observed social distancing, stayed home, avoided crowds.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:56 am

BoxNDox wrote: Kids aren't a much risk of dying, but they can easily be carriers. And the people that take care of them tend to be older. Sometimes a lot older.
That's been true forever for an host of infectious diseases, including the seasonal flu. So why shut down schools for a virus with a 0.15 IFR when we never did for ones with 0.10 IFRs?

And FWIW, the 13-year-old that lived near me, now dead of Covid-19, isn't any less dead for having been a rare exception.
The kids who drown with some regularity in the river down the hill from me aren't any less dead for having been bad swimmers.

We should probably ban swimming, I guess.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by BoxNDox » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:17 am

Service Dog wrote: I had an unsettling experience, a few days ago. My brother & I rarely speak to each other. We talked on the phone. Conversation shifted to facemasks. He has a PhD in archeology & is fine with his university's mask rules... masks all the time everywhere on campus... even outdoors... even if no one is within 50 feet. His university is in a high-altitude dry desert, hot year-round, with plenty of space. Even on his archeology digs-- students will social distance and wear masks at all times. Seems excessive to me.

Over the years-- he has been kicked-hard by the university bureaucrats-- but he completely trusts their wisdom in this policy. Is hostile to my skepticism..

Then we talked-about his son's kindergarten's rules.

I said children aren't at much risk. He said I should look up the 85 infants "on respirators" in Nueces County, Texas.

I already knew about that-- it's fake news.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=553&p=497317&hilit=nueces#p497317

He became exasperated with me. More-so for being right, than if I had been wrong. We probably won't talk again for quite a while.

Conflicts like this gnaw at me-- but I shake-it-off more easily than he does. He's more prone to high-bloodpressure anger & grudges. I think back to a formative time when I walked away from our parents' bullshit-- was free but outcast. He compromised & salvaged their relationship-- but at a cost to his mental autonomy. I'm cooler & more distant-- he takes things personally, gets tangled-up.

I hate that we live in a time of psyops-- designed to exploit & heighten the differences between people-like-him & people-like-me. Divide us, to amass power & control.
Kids aren't a much risk of dying, but they can easily be carriers. And the people that take care of them tend to be older. Sometimes a lot older.

And FWIW, the 13-year-old that lived near me, now dead of Covid-19, isn't any less dead for having been a rare exception.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:11 am

Service Dog wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Kellyanne Conway is still working with Trump and she has said worse about him and they have ben working together the last 4 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K7sa7EeUGc
Wow. Kellyanne Conway said those things "about Trump", eh?

Nope.

Your ad misrepresents Kellyanne's comments about Biden, as-if she were referring to Trump.

The Independent.co.uk:
The two-minute clip uses comments made by Kellyanne Conway against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 11521.html
You're right. I thought she said it while she was still working for Cruz and was still being honest about Trump.
https://www.mediamatters.org/donald-tru ... ews-pundit

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by AndrewV69 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:51 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:50 am

I confess though.... ftp.... listening to Trump pronounce yoh-semite is really funny. It is like he a performing a rap song for Jewish people.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:46 am

Once again.... and it is proven almost ever day..... ftp = commie baboon.

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:17 am

free thoughtpolice wrote: Kellyanne Conway is still working with Trump and she has said worse about him and they have ben working together the last 4 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K7sa7EeUGc
Wow. Kellyanne Conway said those things "about Trump", eh?

Nope.

Your ad misrepresents Kellyanne's comments about Biden, as-if she were referring to Trump.

The Independent.co.uk:
The two-minute clip uses comments made by Kellyanne Conway against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 11521.html

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:10 am

KiwiInOz wrote: The American dream
Lost me, right at the first sentence:
"Never in our lives have we experienced such a global phenomenon. For the first time in the history of the world, all of humanity, informed by the unprecedented reach of digital technology, has come together, focused on the same existential threat, consumed by the same fears and uncertainties, eagerly anticipating the same, as yet unrealized, promises of medical science."
Oh yeah? What about the inevitability of death itself? The ubiquity of stupidity? Those seem pretty global to me.

The author rang the same alarm-bell, when he talked about climate change in 2012:
“There is no serious scientist alive who questions the severity and implications of this climate crisis".
So is he saying this pandemic dwarfs climate change in scale? Or is he just spewing nonsense?

Answer: he's super-serious.
"The COVID pandemic will be remembered as such a moment in history, a seminal event whose significance will unfold only in the wake of the crisis. It will mark this era much as the 1914 assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, the stock market crash of 1929, and the 1933 ascent of Adolf Hitler became fundamental benchmarks of the last century"
Oh, but wait. In 2002, writing about 9/11, he said...
In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, I was asked at a lecture in Los Angeles to name the seminal event of the 20th century. Without hesitation I suggested the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in 1914. Two bullets sparked a war that destroyed all faith in progress and optimism, the hallmarks of the Victorian age, and left in its wake the nihilism and alienation of a century that birthed Hitler, Mao, Stalin and another devastating global conflict that did not fully end until the collapse of the Soviet empire in 1989."

The question then turned to 9/11, and it struck me that 100 years from now that fateful date may well loom as the defining moment of this new century, the day when two worlds, long kept apart by geography and circumstance, came together in violent conflict.
:rimshot:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:45 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Thanks for that. :cdc: :twatson:

I waited for the troll punchline which never came.

This’ll fix it.

Harris said she believes Biden made some women uncomfortable and she believes they were uncomfortable. Kellyanne Conway is still working with Trump and she has said worse about him and they have ben working together the last 4 years.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:43 am

I make groceries and do other errands about every other week now, instead of weekly in the past. I do not wear a mask. Up to a quarter of other shoppers do not, depending on the time of day -- early risers tend to be more defiant. At the feed store and gun shops, almost no customers wear them. No clerk, cashier, or teller has given me the slightest grief. A few other customers have shot angry or shocked stares at me. One soy boy whined out loud to his GF, "I don't like that". An ordinance to fine mask scofflaws $500 was just yesterday narrowly defeated by our County Board of Supervisors (3-2 in favor, but 4 ayes were required.) The two local police dept's had already announced they would "educate" about, but not enforce, mask-wearing.

It's easy to point to videos of anti-maskers going apeshit, as those anecdotes are of course highlighted by the left-leaning MSM and the conformity zealots on the internet. My personal, anecdotal experience finds all the trouble-making and confrontation has come from the mask nazis.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:32 am

Trump going to drop Pence as VP to get a like minded woman as VP candidate:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:17 am

Driftless wrote:
John D wrote: Driftless = not funny sarcasm.
Maybe you'll find this amusing: Been grocery shopping lately?

I go shopping about twice a week - I wear a mask - and so does almost everyone else. Of course, I live in Michigan where our governor is a giant Karen and has convinced everyone we will die any minute. I don't understand why you think this is funny.... but we must just have a different sense of humor.

Now.... this is funny...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by justinvacula » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:37 am

David Silverman witch of the week again for saying he's considering voting for Trump:

https://archive.is/3djhS

He also made Tim Pool :)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:36 am

oh google news
googlenewsworsethannomask.jpg
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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:21 am

It's hard for me to conceive of a more stark "this way lies bullshit" warning than the author being "Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia". However, I'll give him some credit for amusingly looking like a younger version of Skipper from Gilligan's Island.
https://i2.wp.com/www.fr24news.com/a2/w ... C349&ssl=1

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:10 am

John D wrote: Driftless = not funny sarcasm.
Maybe you'll find this amusing: Been grocery shopping lately?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:21 am

Thanks for that. :cdc: :twatson:

I waited for the troll punchline which never came.

This’ll fix it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by KiwiInOz » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:00 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:20 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by AndrewV69 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:11 pm

Let us see what tomorrow will bring.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:49 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: https...://twitter.com/sydneylwatson/status/1293349799039832064?s=21
Sometimes the 1% comes in.
Sometime ... with monotonous regularity. Ask Nate Silver.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by AndrewV69 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:39 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:40 am
Service Dog wrote:
Enough of your goofy diversion tactics. Did you even watch Dr. Drew's interview with Dr. Vladamir Zelenko?
I watched it, he basically whined about the medical community not taking anecdotal evidence (presumably his) seriously enough.
Apparently he submitted a study on July 3 on his hydroxy claims for peer review so there is and should be more feedback on whether his claims may have some merit. https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1
An example of one of the comments about his study:
Received: 23 July 2020
Commenter: Ken Madden, M.D., Ph.D.
The commenter has declared there is no conflict of interests.
Comment: Unfortunately, the lack of information on the comparison population greatly weakens any statements regarding efficacy of the proposed treatment. There are many potential reasons for differences in hospitalizations and mortality between treated patients and an unmatched retrospective comparison group. The treated patients all evidently presented to a Family Physician office. If other patients in the community were presenting to Emergency Rooms or Urgent Care, one would naturally expect sicker patients and a higher percentage of admissions. Others have pointed out the potential higher ages within the comparison group, which would certainly slant that group toward worse outcomes. Other differences in risk factors between groups could do this as well.

Such criticisms do not diminish the possibility of benefit of the proposed treatment, which this report argues is a relatively safe one. However, it should not be considered substantial evidence of such.
It would be great if the hydroxy cocktail actually worked, I'm all for useful treatments for covid. So far the claims of success including Zelenko's claim seem to all include a caveat that they don't work on people with serious, advanced symptoms but work great on people that aren't that sick. If the ones that don't show a positive result are erased from the study as being too far advanced in their illness for the treatment to work that is cherry picking results and is dishonest methodology.
There is no way to tell whether those people would have got better without the treatment unless you conduct large scale tests using rigorous methodology. Further, you would need to test to see whether zinc alone, zepac alone or zinc and zepac together worked as well or better than with hydroxy. If I remember correctly, and that may be as unreliable or worse than the average anecdote, one preliminary small study had the cocktail with poorer outcomes, than no treatment, and zinc alone as slightly better than no treatment.
As for my "goofy diversion tactics". If someone is frequently wrong, has a history of dishonesty, or is an attention whore that runs sensationalist pseudo therapeutic reality show like "Celebrity Rehab with Dr Drew" or "Sex Rehab with Dr. Drew" I consider it as a red flag for their reliability and a good reason to question their claims.
Here are a couple of studies from back in the day before HCQ & Zinc et. al. was deamonized (sic) as "dangerous" & "uproven" & "unsafe" (add whatever big pharma denigration you care to for great justice)

From 2005 Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

From 2010 Zn2+ Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture

So when some tried using it (with zinc) early on patients suffering from the Wuhan Flu (or COVID 19 if you are a ignorant idjit) they reported good results.

Cue in much weeping wailing & knashing (sic) of teeth and a slew of studies showing that toxic dosages when the patient was already in critical condition was inefefctive and viola!

A cheap drug was in reality the spawn of satan! Take this expensive drug (only $3,000 or so per dose) and STFU and we have this [bogus] study in the Lancet (now retracted because they made up shit out of thin air when they did not pull it out of xir ass) to prove that getting any where close to the spawn of satan meant your gonna die a horrific death.

Personally, I blame Trump Derangement Syndrome.

YMMV

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