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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:48 pm

It's official. Stephen Tyler has gotten so old... I am now a better singer than he is... haha... and the Run DMC guitar riff is being played by some bloke off stage... and I am supposed to enjoy this fucking shit?... some negro with big sun glasses shouting crap into a mic. Anything for money I guess.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:34 pm

John D wrote: I fucking hate people...really. So, I'm watching the mother fucking Grammy Awards... and laughing at all the lip sync BS performances. And some cunt comes on and says shit like "I am so honored to be on stage with the woman that broke down so many doors in country music... Shania Twain!"... haha... and I am like ... "Oh fuck, and all this time I thought it was Maybel Carter who broke down doors 70 fucking years ago"... but no... it must be the slutty cunt Shania Twain that dressed like a stripper and sang pop country. A real artistic pioneer that Shania Twain! And even if you don't want to go back 70 years you can always credit Dolly Parton, or Linda Ronstandt... well fuck. It sucks getting old and having these pretentious lying pretty people try to tell me about music history. Fucking fuck.


I knew this would happen. I was a skeptical person when I was in my teens... and I kind of assumed I would hate people more and more as I got older. I was right. People are really fucking shit-ass self aggrandizing liars. Fucking Jonas Brothers lip-sync bullshit.... and some yellow-hair nigger faggot jumping around (lip-syncing) pretending to do performance art. Jesus Christ.... people like this shit? Really.

Where is the talent? They were obviously not invited.... but it is clear... all Grammy performers must be good lip-singers.

Ok... Tanya Tucker is really good... except for the botox.... best performance of the show so far.

Dave Chapelle did just win best comedy album! Well deserved.

Maybe I will post again at the end of the show. Maybe not... because of hating people and shit.
A salute to all the C&W stars that were disses:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:16 pm

I fucking hate people...really. So, I'm watching the mother fucking Grammy Awards... and laughing at all the lip sync BS performances. And some cunt comes on and says shit like "I am so honored to be on stage with the woman that broke down so many doors in country music... Shania Twain!"... haha... and I am like ... "Oh fuck, and all this time I thought it was Maybel Carter who broke down doors 70 fucking years ago"... but no... it must be the slutty cunt Shania Twain that dressed like a stripper and sang pop country. A real artistic pioneer that Shania Twain! And even if you don't want to go back 70 years you can always credit Dolly Parton, or Linda Ronstandt... well fuck. It sucks getting old and having these pretentious lying pretty people try to tell me about music history. Fucking fuck.

I knew this would happen. I was a skeptical person when I was in my teens... and I kind of assumed I would hate people more and more as I got older. I was right. People are really fucking shit-ass self aggrandizing liars. Fucking Jonas Brothers lip-sync bullshit.... and some yellow-hair nigger faggot jumping around (lip-syncing) pretending to do performance art. Jesus Christ.... people like this shit? Really.

Where is the talent? They were obviously not invited.... but it is clear... all Grammy performers must be good lip-singers.

Ok... Tanya Tucker is really good... except for the botox.... best performance of the show so far.

Dave Chapelle did just win best comedy album! Well deserved.

Maybe I will post again at the end of the show. Maybe not... because of hating people and shit.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:34 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:36 pm
QED

h....ttps://twitter.com/brive1987/status/1220942865670344704?s=21
It is indeed racist! Where are the flags for the more recent immigrants like the Shahada flag for the muslims and the PRC flag for the chinese.
More recent than whom?

It is of course no primary text, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Australia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Australians indicate that Chinese and Muslims have a history in AUS which fits with Brive's "concept of Australia" forming in the late 19th Century.
There is no real ambiguity that a dominant and unique national identity found expression in Australia during the late 19C. One derived as a subset of Anglo traits reworked in the new social and physical landscape. Chinese and Moslems formed minor sub notes in this process. They hardly defined it.

The national identity evolved (rather than changed) until the melting pot of mass migration and cultural equivalencies kicked in.

Demographics is king.

Then, as Turnbull stated, our unique national identity is actually defined by universal values rather than culture. Orwellian double think.

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There was always a place for minorities (which implies the presence of majorities). But they didn’t define the cultural landscape.
Sorry if my meaning wasn't clear: I wasn't questioning your assessment of Australia's history, but FTP's inference that Muslims and Chinese were recent additions to the magnificent diversity of Australian life, when in fact they have been a part of "Australia" since white Christians, pretty much (i.e. late C19 by your analysis).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:33 pm

Pitchguest wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Kobe Bryant dead in helicopter crash:

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/other-s ... j229b9r8h4
I think my brain shut down for a millisecond when I saw news he had died. It just wasn't the kind of news I expected to see. Any basketball fans here? I imagine that's a huge blow to the scene.
Apparently he was flying With his daughter to her sports practice on a Sikorsky S-76B. Very sad and peak Hollywood.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:56 pm

https://i.imgur.com/ehUq8fn.jpg?1

YouTube has disappeared Sargon of Akkad's original YouTube channel.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:32 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:36 pm
QED

h....ttps://twitter.com/brive1987/status/1220942865670344704?s=21
It is indeed racist! Where are the flags for the more recent immigrants like the Shahada flag for the muslims and the PRC flag for the chinese.
More recent than whom?

It is of course no primary text, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Australia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Australians indicate that Chinese and Muslims have a history in AUS which fits with Brive's "concept of Australia" forming in the late 19th Century.
There is no real ambiguity that a dominant and unique national identity found expression in Australia during the late 19C. One derived as a subset of Anglo traits reworked in the new social and physical landscape. Chinese and Moslems formed minor sub notes in this process. They hardly defined it.

The national identity evolved (rather than changed) until the melting pot of mass migration and cultural equivalencies kicked in.

Demographics is king.

Then, as Turnbull stated, our unique national identity is actually defined by universal values rather than culture. Orwellian double think.

https://i.imgur.com/YpxcxQf.jpg

There was always a place for minorities (which implies the presence of majorities). But they didn’t define the cultural landscape.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Pitchguest » Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:10 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Kobe Bryant dead in helicopter crash:

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/other-s ... j229b9r8h4
I think my brain shut down for a millisecond when I saw news he had died. It just wasn't the kind of news I expected to see. Any basketball fans here? I imagine that's a huge blow to the scene.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:14 pm

Kobe Bryant dead in helicopter crash:

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/other-s ... j229b9r8h4

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:39 pm

Conc. H2O wrote:
More recent than whom?

It is of course no primary text, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Australia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Australians indicate that Chinese and Muslims have a history in AUS which fits with Brive's "concept of Australia" forming in the late 19th Century.
I thought chinese and muslims immigrating to Aus were diluting the Australianess! Now it turns out they are just renewing Australian values by repeating the history that created the "concept of Australia". :popcorn:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:22 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:36 pm
QED

It is indeed racist! Where are the flags for the more recent immigrants like the Shahada flag for the muslims and the PRC flag for the chinese.
More recent than whom?

It is of course no primary text, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Australia and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Australians indicate that Chinese and Muslims have a history in AUS which fits with Brive's "concept of Australia" forming in the late 19th Century.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:36 am

Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:36 pm
QED

It is indeed racist! Where are the flags for the more recent immigrants like the Shahada flag for the muslims and the PRC flag for the chinese.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:04 am

The ‘earlier’ treatment I alluded to were the now styled ‘frontier wars’, massacres, murder of whites and flour poisonings of the colonial period. Pre Federation and all that, but traditionally trotted out as a cross upon which to nail Australia Day.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:59 am

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:02 am
Brive1987 wrote: You could argue the concept of Australia only formed in the late 19thC with geo-nature based self expression morphing into Federation. But apparently we get to own the earlier treatment of the natives, so nah.
"Earlier"?

Wasn't the federal government removing native children from their parents into the 1960s? Wasn't this an attempt to delete the native people by diluting or halting the propagation of their genes?
The usual formulation is that there was a belief full blood aborigine culture was in fatal structural decline but that half caste children could be saved ... via cultural and (eventual) racial assimilation into western society.

This was a poorly considered exercise of the white man’s burden which also offset the unpleasant fate ‘white’ children often faced within the tribe - coupled to sexual exploitation of esp. females from all fronts.

It was also broadly consistent with the govt policy that saw a quarter of a million fully white children removed from their parents between 1930 and 1980.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:55 am

Brive1987 wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Brive, yours is a very young country, where Europeans arrived a couple of hundred years ago and built themselves a country over the top of existing people. So far, so standard. But the thing with Aus is its very recent history of brutalizing those people and of very explicitly trying to eradicate them. My opinion: I reckon that allows (demands) the insertion of the *current PC term* people into your national day celebrations.

And I am sorry for misgendering your Godsquad friend "Quiet Australian No Longer" (which is a handle I fucking love as I bet she's a proper loudmouthed, red faced, truly awful person to be around at a sausage sizzle).
Interesting. I’m happy to be persuaded otherwise but I’d argue modern nation building for USA, Aust, NZ and Southern Africa all occurred between (say) 1770 and 1900. Whether it be revolutionary wars, westward expansion, Great Treks, exploration and settlement, accommodations with the Maori etc. You could argue the concept of Australia only formed in the late 19thC with geo-nature based self expression morphing into Federation. But apparently we get to own the earlier treatment of the natives, so nah. You could also argue the major American displacement of the Indians occurred west of the Mississippi dating from 1811-1920s. Ie concurrent with Australian expansion.

In any case. No one is denying Aborigines the inclusion of smoking ceremonies with redcoat re-enactments. Or even their post-hoc invented flag representing a non-existent wakanda. But spare me the white hating, nation tearing, black-armband-history political theatre embodied in the 250 flags of mourning.
I don't think Australia and the USA are that different in terms of treatment of natives. Both in time frame and actions. The USA is large and treatment varied from almost tolerance to extermination.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:02 am

Brive1987 wrote: You could argue the concept of Australia only formed in the late 19thC with geo-nature based self expression morphing into Federation. But apparently we get to own the earlier treatment of the natives, so nah.
"Earlier"?

Wasn't the federal government removing native children from their parents into the 1960s? Wasn't this an attempt to delete the native people by diluting or halting the propagation of their genes?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:49 pm

That said. We enjoyed the day down at Ground Zero Ie the Rocks / Circular Quay. Left Barangaroo to the perpetually self-offended to share with depressed Inner-West Council rate-payers.

Here is a still life of metabolic syndrome. Look at how far we have come, now the flour (and vegetable oils/simple carbs) is poisoning us! :mrgreen:

https://i.imgur.com/BEbKD6Y.jpg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:14 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Brive, yours is a very young country, where Europeans arrived a couple of hundred years ago and built themselves a country over the top of existing people. So far, so standard. But the thing with Aus is its very recent history of brutalizing those people and of very explicitly trying to eradicate them. My opinion: I reckon that allows (demands) the insertion of the *current PC term* people into your national day celebrations.

And I am sorry for misgendering your Godsquad friend "Quiet Australian No Longer" (which is a handle I fucking love as I bet she's a proper loudmouthed, red faced, truly awful person to be around at a sausage sizzle).
Interesting. I’m happy to be persuaded otherwise but I’d argue modern nation building for USA, Aust, NZ and Southern Africa all occurred between (say) 1770 and 1900. Whether it be revolutionary wars, westward expansion, Great Treks, exploration and settlement, accommodations with the Maori etc. You could argue the concept of Australia only formed in the late 19thC with geo-nature based self expression morphing into Federation. But apparently we get to own the earlier treatment of the natives, so nah. You could also argue the major American displacement of the Indians occurred west of the Mississippi dating from 1811-1920s. Ie concurrent with Australian expansion.

In any case. No one is denying Aborigines the inclusion of smoking ceremonies with redcoat re-enactments. Or even their post-hoc invented flag representing a non-existent wakanda. But spare me the white hating, nation tearing, black-armband-history political theatre embodied in the 250 flags of mourning.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:30 pm

Brive, yours is a very young country, where Europeans arrived a couple of hundred years ago and built themselves a country over the top of existing people. So far, so standard. But the thing with Aus is its very recent history of brutalizing those people and of very explicitly trying to eradicate them. My opinion: I reckon that allows (demands) the insertion of the *current PC term* people into your national day celebrations.

And I am sorry for misgendering your Godsquad friend "Quiet Australian No Longer" (which is a handle I fucking love as I bet she's a proper loudmouthed, red faced, truly awful person to be around at a sausage sizzle).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:20 pm

There hasn't been much wrasslin' content lately so...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:43 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:50 pm

The media are on script.
https://www.news.com.au/national/why-so ... ce4111f60c

“ Happy Australia Day? Until these injustices are righted, it’s hard to see it as little more than the celebration of invasion, genocide and the theft of children, land and basic human dignity.”

Meanwhile Ms Chang is keen to re-educate us on the malleability of Australia Day.
Apparently it was once known nationally as “Foundation Day” so that means we can nix current nazi celebrations as meaningless . :?

https://i.imgur.com/B0ErvZo.png

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:22 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:18 pm

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:34 am
Brive1987 wrote: QED

..https...://twitter.com/brive1987/status/1220942865670344704?s=21
For the first tweet: it's been15 hours, and I see no sign yet of these "joyless luvvies" he was hoping to tempt into splenic rage. Almost as though his own anger is entirely manufactured, and the problem is all in his and your heads.

For the second tweet: What's your problem, is there a silent "White" in "Australia Day"?
1. You misgendered ‘Quiet Australian’ which therefore means you lose. :snooty: :dance:

2. There are plenty triggered people stuttering today. Starting with the entire “Inner West Council”

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-ac ... 1cc2df0f63

3. If you note my follow up tweet, the point was that Barangaroo was unironically perpetuating the race-based identitarian divisive agenda normally ascribed to the Anglo celebrations. Focused political theatre.

Buy any-who. I hope you have a spectacular sausage sizzle. Cheers.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:11 am

Shagging Matilda, fucking nearly killed 'er.
Who'll come a-shagging Matilda with me?
And I whipped it in, whipped it out,
Wiped it on her petticoat.
Who'll come a-shagging Matilda with me?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:59 am

SNL not SNKL.

Fuck this, off for a walk.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:59 am

MY BAD: that SNKL video is from 2017, so I guess around the same period as the election stuff?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:56 am

Funniest thing SNL have done for years (since the Baldwin/McCarthy election stuff).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:34 am

Brive1987 wrote: QED

For the first tweet: it's been15 hours, and I see no sign yet of these "joyless luvvies" he was hoping to tempt into splenic rage. Almost as though his own anger is entirely manufactured, and the problem is all in his and your heads.

For the second tweet: What's your problem, is there a silent "White" in "Australia Day"?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:59 am

Oops I thought I’d moved on to....

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:58 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:34 am

Thanks for the thought. If you prefer, feel free to insert either of these alternatives.





Ah. John Williamson ... an authentic voice.

So is this lass ...



If you are brave you can get a duet :o

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:35 am

I guess it's traditional by now...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:36 pm

QED

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:16 pm

It’s January 25 - day before Australia Day.

Took the wife and the dog for a walk on the Barangaroo headland around the corner from Circular Quay where the Aboriginal counter production will apparently take place. Rehearsal was in full swing. Massive production with banks of cameras capturing every angle etc. But what really struck me were the overwhelming quantity of aboriginal flags, sans Australian entries, that made the place resemble Nuremberg. Actually quite taken aback by the huge production investment and relentless mono cultural propaganda drive that put the tiki torches in Charlottesville to shame. I’ll post some pics when I roll off my bed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Service Dog » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:32 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: If you think voters are racist, you have the right to negate elections you lose:

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/t ... cna1110356
That essay was so silly, it might cause one to go-back and question the credibility of the author's scholarship on-- the topic of 'queerness' and 4th-wave-woke-intersectional feminism in 1940's 'Wonder Woman' comic books. Book review here: https://www.comicsgrid.com/articles/10.5334/cg.be/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:50 pm

BTW, I found out a guaranteed way to discover if dick-havers in a dress are really brave women or skeevy pervs. Transport them to the early pages of Philip Wylie's The Disappeance and see what happens next.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:45 pm

Black Pride and Colour Prejudice:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:32 pm

MarcusAu wrote: Oh Well, perhaps we can all look forward to the new David Copperfield movie...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4GfEi_GyyU

...or perhaps not.
Not an original observation, but the only really interesting magic trick he performed was how he got into Claudia Schiffer's panties

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:46 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:59 pm

Oh Well, perhaps we can all look forward to the new David Copperfield movie...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4GfEi_GyyU

...or perhaps not.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:43 am

MarcusAu wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote: Unless the program explicitly shoehorns in African ancestry for Margaret of Anjou, I don't see how this is significantly different than casting short, dark haired, skinny Jonathan Rhys Meyers as King Henry VIII.
I thought it was traditional for tell stories full of propaganda for one cause or another. At least, that seems to be the view of such people as 'The Richard the Third Society' who feel that a re-assessment of the authorised version would not go amiss.

Perhaps the BBC, like Shakespeare have a particular audience in mind that they are looking to pander to.

As in most of these cases, I'll vote with my <insert currency denomination here>, or attention, with the (perhaps) vain hope that the market will provide.

And I'll not be telling people lacking in the appropriate amount of Anglo-Saxon ancestry (or Norman) that they should be staying in their country lane.
I’ll agree with your tentative observation that the BBC is engaged in woke propaganda. I’ll also point out there was no criticism made of the actress for picking up work.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Pitchguest » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:36 am

Driftless wrote:
Pitchguest wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: they are absolutely convinced that if they were to have a gun rally of equal size with only black people....the government would enforce even stricter gun control than they have now.
Half of 'em are just parroting Dave Chappelle... he joked that the only way the govt would stand-up to the NRA... is if millions of blacks joined.

They're taking a joke as gospel. Nevermind Chappelle's most recent special, with a long description of precisely-how he'd defend his home with a shotgun.

Black activist complainers pretend police always Occupied their communities. 50 years ago, their complaint was that police Ignored their communities.

The complain about urban Gentrification today. They forgot their complaint about 'White Flight' away from cities, 40 years ago.
Yeesh. Make up yer mind.
The irony is that the Black Panthers' view on gun control back then was similar to the views now held by the NRA: that a citizen's right to bear arms is protected by the Second Amendment and should not be infringed. Only I thought the NRA were supposed to be the bad guys.

Surely if the Black Panther Party disrupted a legislative hearing to protest a gun control Bill at a time when the NRA was actually in support of gun control, then that should make them the bad guys, too, no? The fact that the NRA later changed their mind should be of no consequence, shouldn't it? :think: Truly, we live in a society.
I thought mail order guns were obtainable before the black panthers but not after. I may be misinformed.
Mail order guns were banned shortly after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, four years prior. The new law they were protesting was only in California and it had already been proposed and was just about to be signed into law. It had nothing to do with them at all.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:28 am

MarcusAu wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote: Unless the program explicitly shoehorns in African ancestry for Margaret of Anjou, I don't see how this is significantly different than casting short, dark haired, skinny Jonathan Rhys Meyers as King Henry VIII.
I thought it was traditional for tell stories full of propaganda for one cause or another. At least, that seems to be the view of such people as 'The Richard the Third Society' who feel that a re-assessment of the authorised version would not go amiss.

Perhaps the BBC, like Shakespeare have a particular audience in mind that they are looking to pander to.

As in most of these cases, I'll vote with my <insert currency denomination here>, or attention, with the (perhaps) vain hope that the market will provide.

And I'll not be telling people lacking in the appropriate amount of Anglo-Saxon ancestry (or Norman) that they should be staying in their country lane.
Exactly. The complicating factor, as I mentioned a few days ago, is critics as a group have become beholden to diversity/inclusion propaganda and are frequently reviewing fidelity to the dogma rather than the actual artistic merits of a piece.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:09 am

Brive1987 wrote:
jugheadnaut wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:22 pm

Unless the program explicitly shoehorns in African ancestry for Margaret of Anjou, I don't see how this is significantly different than casting short, dark haired, skinny Jonathan Rhys Meyers as King Henry VIII.
Two wongs don’t make it white.
:rimshot:

While it's obviously a nice bonus if an actor has a strong physical resemblance to a historical character they are portraying, it's not necessarily wrong, or historical revisionism, to cast an actor who doesn't resemble the character but brings other things to the table. In the case of Rhys Meyers, he brought a sexual energy and overwhelming sense of menace that was fantastic for the role, and most would regard his casting as being an inspired choice, not a mistake (although the last 2 seasons of The Tudors would have been better if Rhys Meyers was willing to use prosthetics to let the character age somewhat historically accurately).

Make no mistake, if the producers of the BBC program, which I'm completely unfamiliar with, earmarked the role for a POC, then I condemn that entirely. But if they hired who they deemed the best actress for the role even though she is black, then I have zero issue with it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:45 am

jugheadnaut wrote: Unless the program explicitly shoehorns in African ancestry for Margaret of Anjou, I don't see how this is significantly different than casting short, dark haired, skinny Jonathan Rhys Meyers as King Henry VIII.
I thought it was traditional for tell stories full of propaganda for one cause or another. At least, that seems to be the view of such people as 'The Richard the Third Society' who feel that a re-assessment of the authorised version would not go amiss.

Perhaps the BBC, like Shakespeare have a particular audience in mind that they are looking to pander to.

As in most of these cases, I'll vote with my <insert currency denomination here>, or attention, with the (perhaps) vain hope that the market will provide.

And I'll not be telling people lacking in the appropriate amount of Anglo-Saxon ancestry (or Norman) that they should be staying in their country lane.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:16 am

A show that is incredibly bad and yet very entertaining. "9-1-1 Lone Star"

My wife loves this kind of stuff and she puts up with me laughing the whole time she watches. I try to keep it to a minimum... but I can't help myself.

It is a disaster porn show with firefighters who are.... vain metro male (Rob Lowe), Mary Sue woman (Liv Tyler), FTM Trans black, female Muslim (complete with head covering), rowdy gay druggie, White male with PTSD.....

I call the show "9-1-1 Woke"... and my wife asks me what that means. Haha.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:59 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:07 pm
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: At least the UK doesn't have asset forfeiture laws like the US. I cannot believe that the police can stop your vehicle and steal your cash without evidence of criminal activity in some states. Surely that must be a constitutional violation of some sort.
the Fifth Amendment:
“No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law....”
The cops get away with it cuz they pick on people for whom challenging the seizure isn't worth it -- like guys caught soliciting prostitution.


NB: the so-called "Red Flag" laws, like the one just passed in Virginia, whereby a sole public official can order a person's guns taken if they're allegedly deemed to pose a threat to themselves or others, runs clearly afoul of the Fifth Amendment.
There are definitely cases of people carrying large sums, often across state lines, on their way to buying a car or some high value item having their cash seized simply because the cop is suspicious about why they are carrying a lot of cash. There's an incentive in that a lot of the money goes to the force, which makes both the cops and government happy, so it is made very difficult for anyone to get their cash back. I believe the original reason for the law is to target the proceeds of drug crime. Leave it to the cops and anyone carrying lots of cash is going to be a drug crime suspect. The law is so open to abuse it's a sick joke.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:33 pm

That’s odd. Nice. But odd.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:20 pm

jugheadnaut wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:22 pm
Brive1987 wrote: Imagine what they’d do to Jeanne d'Arc .... :mrgreen:

Unless the program explicitly shoehorns in African ancestry for Margaret of Anjou, I don't see how this is significantly different than casting short, dark haired, skinny Jonathan Rhys Meyers as King Henry VIII.
Two wongs don’t make it white.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:33 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:22 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Imagine what they’d do to Jeanne d'Arc .... :mrgreen:

Unless the program explicitly shoehorns in African ancestry for Margaret of Anjou, I don't see how this is significantly different than casting short, dark haired, skinny Jonathan Rhys Meyers as King Henry VIII.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:11 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Imagine what they’d do to Jeanne d'Arc .... :mrgreen:

Just so long as they cast a pear-shaped woman, it's accurate.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:38 pm

Lsuoma wrote: Joan of Arc WAS black (afterwards).
Burn! (no pun intended)

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Lsuoma » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:55 pm

Joan of Arc WAS black (afterwards).

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Brive1987 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:13 pm

Imagine what they’d do to Jeanne d'Arc .... :mrgreen:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:07 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: At least the UK doesn't have asset forfeiture laws like the US. I cannot believe that the police can stop your vehicle and steal your cash without evidence of criminal activity in some states. Surely that must be a constitutional violation of some sort.
the Fifth Amendment:
“No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law....”
The cops get away with it cuz they pick on people for whom challenging the seizure isn't worth it -- like guys caught soliciting prostitution.


NB: the so-called "Red Flag" laws, like the one just passed in Virginia, whereby a sole public official can order a person's guns taken if they're allegedly deemed to pose a threat to themselves or others, runs clearly afoul of the Fifth Amendment.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Driftless » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:10 pm

Pitchguest wrote:
Service Dog wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: they are absolutely convinced that if they were to have a gun rally of equal size with only black people....the government would enforce even stricter gun control than they have now.
Half of 'em are just parroting Dave Chappelle... he joked that the only way the govt would stand-up to the NRA... is if millions of blacks joined.

They're taking a joke as gospel. Nevermind Chappelle's most recent special, with a long description of precisely-how he'd defend his home with a shotgun.

Black activist complainers pretend police always Occupied their communities. 50 years ago, their complaint was that police Ignored their communities.

The complain about urban Gentrification today. They forgot their complaint about 'White Flight' away from cities, 40 years ago.
Yeesh. Make up yer mind.
The irony is that the Black Panthers' view on gun control back then was similar to the views now held by the NRA: that a citizen's right to bear arms is protected by the Second Amendment and should not be infringed. Only I thought the NRA were supposed to be the bad guys.

Surely if the Black Panther Party disrupted a legislative hearing to protest a gun control Bill at a time when the NRA was actually in support of gun control, then that should make them the bad guys, too, no? The fact that the NRA later changed their mind should be of no consequence, shouldn't it? :think: Truly, we live in a society.
I thought mail order guns were obtainable before the black panthers but not after. I may be misinformed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by jugheadnaut » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:41 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
At least the UK doesn't have asset forfeiture laws like the US. I cannot believe that the police can stop your vehicle and steal your cash without evidence of criminal activity in some states. Surely that must be a constitutional violation of some sort.
Canada is the worst of both worlds. We don't get categorical constitutional free speech guarantees and we have civil forfeiture laws, although they're not as heavily used as in the US.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by franc » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:58 am

Oppression is being told you have to put your pants on when you go outside.

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