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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6730

by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:15 am

It's very hard to rehabilitate a dead person. It's also very hard to retcon an execution when the executed was innocent after all.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6729

by mordacious1 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:37 am

Hunt wrote: I_ do believe in redemption and rehabilitation. The Shawshank example, obviously dramatic, is true. People do change. People are sucked into situations were murder happens, and they are not entirely beyond redemption. Shit happens...
Shit does happen. The Shawshank guy was a teenager and was committing an armed robbery, innocent people got killed. His fault, but I think THOSE type of guys can be rehabilitated. But he most likely wouldn’t have gotten the needle for that today, unless a cop was killed. Usually the DP applies to heinous murders, rape and brutal torture killing of a child, for example. That kind of sicko can’t be rehabbed. That being said, iff the Left can ensure that they won’t let these brutal killers out again, I’m okay with life behind bars...but they broke that contract by letting these guys out:
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/parol ... ks-outrage

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6728

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:32 am

Hunt wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:16 am
That being said, there are some people who, barring execution, should be incarcerated for life. There really are people beyond redemption, and we shouldn't bother trying. That doesn't mean we should torture them with inhumane accommodations. You don't torture an animal that kills (though often they're put down); you shouldn't torture a human who kills. This distinction about knowing right from wrong is ultimately a religious qualification. I'm not entirely sure some murderers don't "think" they're doing the right thing, to them.

The trick is separating the two, those who can and can't be redeemed.
True. The psychopath is said to know right from wrong, but I think it is more accurate to say that they know what will get them punished and what won't.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6727

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:27 am

MarcusAu wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:52 am
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: I agree with Jerry.
My opinion is in concordance with that of Phil.
And my opinion is floating in an indeterminate state because I don't have all the answers having become much more ignorant with age.IMO the death penalty has as much to do with the value of maintaining or eroding a sense of the sacredness of life as it has to do with justice and crime rates. It's a bit like gun rights where you have to balance the value of lowering the overall death rate against the right of the individual to self defence. Statistics are not everything, there are effects on the "national psyche" to consider.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6726

by Hunt » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:16 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:47 am
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: I agree with Jerry.
And you're entitled to that opinion. (I thought that way once, too.) But the SJWs at WEIT consistently strawman the pro death penalty argument, while excoriating and slandering any who support it. Also, forced to venture outside their ideological groupthink bubble for the first time, they are shockingly bad at defending their theses.

mordacious1 wrote: I used to, also. I bought the Left’s argument that life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. But, as usual, they lied. They really didn’t want to lock them up forever, they wanted to let them go:
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/201 ... _york.html
That’s just from a four month period in 2016 in NY State.
All SJW public policy is grounded on the false concept that humans are, if not inherently good by nature, then at least tabula rasa thus ever malleable/redeemable. The current rage among the far left now is 'restorative justice', whereby criminals, even sadistic rapists and murderers, meet with their victims (or surviving family members), listen to how much their crime hurt them, and PAFF! experience a damascene moment, renounce crime, and do community service like picking litter as recompense. It's completely batshit crazy.
The far left (whatever that is, perhaps SJW left) doesn't really know what they want. They have little contact with the real world. What opinion they have on the situation "one the ground" is given to them by NPR and academia. So we have bleeding heart liberals who think psychopathic serial killers can be redeemed thru empathy, but also that a hapless drunken juveniles like Brock Turner should be raped in incarceration for ten years to life. The SJW left has no conception of what actual justice looks like. Confront them on this and they look at you with a blank stare, or the online equivalent.

_I_ do believe in redemption and rehabilitation. The Shawshank example, obviously dramatic, is true. People do change. People are sucked into situations were murder happens, and they are not entirely beyond redemption. Shit happens, and it has little to do with Jerry's--irrelevant to my mind--ideas on free will determinism. To relegate all murderers to lifetime incarceration is wrongheaded, to my mind. I know many people disagree, and I know that I might disagree too, if a loved one was taken.

That being said, there are some people who, barring execution, should be incarcerated for life. There really are people beyond redemption, and we shouldn't bother trying. That doesn't mean we should torture them with inhumane accommodations. You don't torture an animal that kills (though often they're put down); you shouldn't torture a human who kills. This distinction about knowing right from wrong is ultimately a religious qualification. I'm not entirely sure some murderers don't "think" they're doing the right thing, to them.

The trick is separating the two, those who can and can't be redeemed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6725

by MarcusAu » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:06 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: All SJW public policy is grounded on the false concept that humans are, if not inherently good by nature, then at least tabula rasa thus ever malleable/redeemable.
If this were so then it would be difficult, if not impossible for them to make generalisations on the basis of race.

I think most of their definitions exists in a quantum state - where the veracity cannot be determined until the race, gender and sexual proclivities of the person talking - and the audience they are talking to are all nailed down. The usefulness rather than truth of their construction is what matters. Any stick to beat a dog.


Lewis Carol comes to mind...

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by MarcusAu » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:52 am

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: I agree with Jerry.
My opinion is in concordance with that of Phil.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6723

by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:50 am

mordacious1 wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: More on The Unbearable Unwokeness of Capital Punishment at WEIT:

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... ed-killer/
I agree with Jerry.
I used to, also. I bought the Left’s argument that life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. But, as usual, they lied. They really didn’t want to lock them up forever, they wanted to let them go:
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/201 ... _york.html
That’s just from a four month period in 2016 in NY State.
And the very first case confirms why I agree with Jerry:
-- Sammy Swift, 59, convicted of beating Stephen DeLuca to death in 1994 during a robbery. Swift was sentenced to 20 years to life. Swift had his conviction overturned in 2008, after a Cayuga County judge ruled that new DNA evidence raised doubts about blood evidence linking Swift to the murder scene. But a year later, a state appeals overturned that ruling and reinstated the conviction. Swift plans to continue to try to overturn the conviction even though he's out of prison, said his former lawyer, Joseph Sapio. Swift is living in Cayuga County.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:47 am

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: I agree with Jerry.
And you're entitled to that opinion. (I thought that way once, too.) But the SJWs at WEIT consistently strawman the pro death penalty argument, while excoriating and slandering any who support it. Also, forced to venture outside their ideological groupthink bubble for the first time, they are shockingly bad at defending their theses.

mordacious1 wrote: I used to, also. I bought the Left’s argument that life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. But, as usual, they lied. They really didn’t want to lock them up forever, they wanted to let them go:
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/201 ... _york.html
That’s just from a four month period in 2016 in NY State.
All SJW public policy is grounded on the false concept that humans are, if not inherently good by nature, then at least tabula rasa thus ever malleable/redeemable. The current rage among the far left now is 'restorative justice', whereby criminals, even sadistic rapists and murderers, meet with their victims (or surviving family members), listen to how much their crime hurt them, and PAFF! experience a damascene moment, renounce crime, and do community service like picking litter as recompense. It's completely batshit crazy.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6721

by AndrewV69 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:20 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6720

by Hunt » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:23 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6719

by mordacious1 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:00 am

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: More on The Unbearable Unwokeness of Capital Punishment at WEIT:

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... ed-killer/
I agree with Jerry.
I used to, also. I bought the Left’s argument that life without parole is a worse punishment than execution. But, as usual, they lied. They really didn’t want to lock them up forever, they wanted to let them go:
https://www.newyorkupstate.com/news/201 ... _york.html
That’s just from a four month period in 2016 in NY State.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6718

by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:25 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: More on The Unbearable Unwokeness of Capital Punishment at WEIT:

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... ed-killer/
I agree with Jerry.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6717

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:37 pm

More on The Unbearable Unwokeness of Capital Punishment at WEIT:

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... ed-killer/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6716

by Keating » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:21 pm

Service Dog wrote:
Keating wrote: So it's finally happened in real life. A person I unfortunately just met, with clear socialisation problems, is getting others to refer to them as "they". I'd give a clear pronoun myself, but I honestly can't tell.
What pronoun does the "they" use to refer to theyselves? "We"?

According to me, anyone who demands special pronouns is at-least required to jump thru their own hoop & consistently refer to themselves soley using their own rules.
I haven't actually talked to them yet. It was a group activity, where we only did name introductions. They then had a breakdown about half an hour into the activity and left. Someone asked the instructor if they were okay during a break, and got corrected on their pronoun use and I happened to by nearby that I could overhear the conversation. I can probably get away with never having to talk or refer to them in any way. Although, I'm already using "they" here. Mostly because I'm unsure. I'd guess a male with long hair.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6715

by MarcusAu » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:24 am

Anyone been watching Pennyworth?

It's a 1960s fever dream of London - purportedly giving backstory to the to the Wayne's reasonably well-known butler (though I suppose technically he could be considered more of a valet).

A reasonably well done Micheal Caine impression at any rate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYc3LXqEyhg


It seems to take place in one of those thin places where counter-factuals are leaking in. For example - I was not previously aware of live televised public executions occurring in the UK in the 1960s. But then again 'The Avengers' and 'The Prisoner' did set precedent for bringing some of the eccentricities of British culture to TV.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6714

by Bhurzum » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:27 pm

KiwiInOz wrote: And she is getting turned on there in the middle.
I must admit, I feel really cheap/dirty after watching her vids and not in a good way.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6713

by KiwiInOz » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:39 pm

Bhurzum wrote: "Don't tread on me" is a Russian slogan?



The left, routinely.
And she is getting turned on there in the middle.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6712

by Bhurzum » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:37 pm

"Don't tread on me" is a Russian slogan?



The left, routinely.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6711

by Service Dog » Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:28 pm

Tomorrow I ship-out for a few days, to Great Gatsby locations, to work on shoot. Big popstar, big corporation, big movie tie-in.

https://static.vecteezy.com/system/reso ... vector.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/13548019/r/il/ ... 6_oycq.jpg

https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/file ... _embed.jpg

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6710

by Hunt » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:43 pm

katamari Damassi wrote:
Hunt wrote: Good talk on narcissists. The title is a little screwy. It's about both male and female narcissists.

Very interesting from what I could get out of it. I was distracted by his amazing ass.
He really shouldn't wear tight jeans if he wants to be heard.
You may be suffering from hypersexualization.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6709

by katamari Damassi » Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:02 pm

Hunt wrote: Good talk on narcissists. The title is a little screwy. It's about both male and female narcissists.

Very interesting from what I could get out of it. I was distracted by his amazing ass.
He really shouldn't wear tight jeans if he wants to be heard.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6708

by jugheadnaut » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:28 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
I think one should be careful to differentiate between the political ideologues whose stance on climate is informed by their anti-conservative views and those people who have an understanding of the issue and genuinely want to inform.
Regarding progressive entitlement, in this video Robin Aitken explains the progressive mindset exemplified by the BBC. He thinks that the modern Left regard political history as moving inexorably toward their preferred destination and it is their moral right to ensure that it happens regardless of anyone else's opinion. I think he is absolutely right and it explains the deranged response to Trump, Brexit, "populism" and anti-EU sentiment. The prog Left seem genuinely incensed at the derailing of their righteous choo choo and they can't quite believe that it isn't Nazis and racist "gammons" doing it.
I agree. On the other side, conservatives, or at least conservative intellectuals, tend to take the complementary view that they are the rearguard in a war they're destined to lose, as in William F Buckley's famous declaration that the role of a conservative is to "stand athwart history, yelling stop". I think one reason Trump is so popular among the GOP rank and file is that, instead of being gloomily defensive temperamentally, he takes it to the other side.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6707

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:53 am

Driftless wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Whatever anyone may think about climate change, children do not have the experience or cynicism needed to deal with such politically charged subjects.

She can be 100% right, but it still won't work on a more astute population. You know, the voting type...
I think the "climate crisis" people are mistaking the purpose of protests. In a democracy it is a way to raise awareness of an issue among voters so that the change can come through the ballot box. It seems that some of these people think the purpose of protest is to bypass democracy and get their agenda implemented directly. Even if they are right about what needs to be done, a democracy does not work that way.
I think one should be careful to differentiate between the political ideologues whose stance on climate is informed by their anti-conservative views and those people who have an understanding of the issue and genuinely want to inform.
Regarding progressive entitlement, in this video Robin Aitken explains the progressive mindset exemplified by the BBC. He thinks that the modern Left regard political history as moving inexorably toward their preferred destination and it is their moral right to ensure that it happens regardless of anyone else's opinion. I think he is absolutely right and it explains the deranged response to Trump, Brexit, "populism" and anti-EU sentiment. The prog Left seem genuinely incensed at the derailing of their righteous choo choo and they can't quite believe that it isn't Nazis and racist "gammons" doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aucDmK5E4bU

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6706

by Hunt » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:55 am

Good talk on narcissists. The title is a little screwy. It's about both male and female narcissists.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6705

by mike150160 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:17 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Whatever anyone may think about climate change, children do not have the experience or cynicism needed to deal with such politically charged subjects.

She can be 100% right, but it still won't work on a more astute population. You know, the voting type...
I don't know about. Joan and her Ark had quite a following. In fact you could say that she was on fire.
Hey Man!! Too soon!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6704

by KiwiInOz » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:53 pm

I don't know about that. That, buggerit.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6703

by KiwiInOz » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:52 pm

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Whatever anyone may think about climate change, children do not have the experience or cynicism needed to deal with such politically charged subjects.

She can be 100% right, but it still won't work on a more astute population. You know, the voting type...
I don't know about. Joan and her Ark had quite a following. In fact you could say that she was on fire.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6702

by Driftless » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:19 pm

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Whatever anyone may think about climate change, children do not have the experience or cynicism needed to deal with such politically charged subjects.

She can be 100% right, but it still won't work on a more astute population. You know, the voting type...
I think the "climate crisis" people are mistaking the purpose of protests. In a democracy it is a way to raise awareness of an issue among voters so that the change can come through the ballot box. It seems that some of these people think the purpose of protest is to bypass democracy and get their agenda implemented directly. Even if they are right about what needs to be done, a democracy does not work that way.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6701

by MarcusAu » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:26 am

screwtape wrote: Seems like the Children's Crusade to me.
I wouldn't want to be too quick to accept a comparison. Not before someone has at least a rough estimate for what the carbon footprint of the first one was.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6700

by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:53 am

Whatever anyone may think about climate change, children do not have the experience or cynicism needed to deal with such politically charged subjects.

She can be 100% right, but it still won't work on a more astute population. You know, the voting type...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6699

by screwtape » Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:19 am

Seems like the Children's Crusade to me.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6698

by jugheadnaut » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:25 am

KiwiInOz wrote:
She quite categorically states that she doesn't believe that the world is going to end. She also states that she was pissed off by the apparent inaction by leaders around climate change, so set up her one day a week protest. She did not expect to go viral (so it wasn't a Machiavellian plot by her parents to profit).

Youth see things in black and white. Autistic youth even more so.

Good on her. I wouldn't have had that gumption or composure at that age.
In a recent speech, she states climate change will "most likely lead to the end of civilization as we know it." Granted, "as we know it" is the weasliest of weasel words, but this is basically in the same ball park as "the world is going to end", another weasel phrase.

Her shtick is recounting how she was taught climate change is an existential crisis, but no one acts like this is the case, and this dooms her future. You are correct that autistes are particularly prone to see things in black and white, but an even more defining characteristic is that they have difficulty seeing beyond the literal, or that people frequently say things that are not literally what they actually believe. Yes, almost no one behaves like we're in the onset of an existential crisis even while, in certain sets, there's an almost religious zeal competition to describe the consequences of climate change as apocalyptically as possible. The obvious explanation is people say it, but don't actually believe it, and are using hyperbolic scare mongering for political purpose. But in her damaged brain, it must mean people are incredibly short sighted and stupid and need to be woken up.

I think you are also correct that neither her nor her parents had her rise in stature planned out. Rather climate activist PR thought she would be a useful propaganda tool. But if they want to make a mentally ill Swedish adolescent the face of climate change alarmism, more power to them.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6697

by InfraRedBucket » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:53 am

Talking of trans, will xir be alright waxing some sweaty hairy balls?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-4 ... t-can-help

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6696

by InfraRedBucket » Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:49 am

Hunt wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Hunt wrote: Believe it or not, this was 1980 uncontroversial:

I agree. You couldn't get away with throwing your cigarette butts on the ground like that any more.
It's funny, the guy seems like a decent one hit wonder, and they obviously threw this video together. But you think they would have considered a stand-in actor? He's 33 years old in this, singing to a teen girl, looks like Harvey Keitel with long hair and serial killer eyes. Today this would be career suicide.
On my small low res tablet screen thought that was a woman in the video thumbnail. If he calls themselves she/xir will that be alright?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6695

by Hunt » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:25 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Hunt wrote: Believe it or not, this was 1980 uncontroversial:

I agree. You couldn't get away with throwing your cigarette butts on the ground like that any more.
It's funny, the guy seems like a decent one hit wonder, and they obviously threw this video together. But you think they would have considered a stand-in actor? He's 33 years old in this, singing to a teen girl, looks like Harvey Keitel with long hair and serial killer eyes. Today this would be career suicide.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6694

by KiwiInOz » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:37 pm

screwtape wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
SM1957 wrote: Greta Thunberg is making an environmental point by sailing across the Atlantic, not flying - to save CO2 emissions,

Five people are flying across to New York so they can sail the boat back.
Once upon a time, if you told me about millions of adults joining a thirteen-year-old retard's crusade to save the planet from destruction, I'd swear you were talking about a Kurt Vonnegut novel.
To take an autistic teenager with an eating disorder and other mental health issues and tell her the world is going to end and it's up to her to save it rather meets my definition of child abuse.
She quite categorically states that she doesn't believe that the world is going to end. She also states that she was pissed off by the apparent inaction by leaders around climate change, so set up her one day a week protest. She did not expect to go viral (so it wasn't a Machiavellian plot by her parents to profit).

Youth see things in black and white. Autistic youth even more so.

Good on her. I wouldn't have had that gumption or composure at that age.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6693

by KiwiInOz » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:32 pm

Hunt wrote: Believe it or not, this was 1980 uncontroversial:

I agree. You couldn't get away with throwing your cigarette butts on the ground like that any more.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6692

by Service Dog » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:28 pm

Keating wrote: So it's finally happened in real life. A person I unfortunately just met, with clear socialisation problems, is getting others to refer to them as "they". I'd give a clear pronoun myself, but I honestly can't tell.
What pronoun does the "they" use to refer to theyselves? "We"?

According to me, anyone who demands special pronouns is at-least required to jump thru their own hoop & consistently refer to themselves soley using their own rules.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6691

by Lsuoma » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:40 pm

Oh, my! Woke network promoting Islam run by UK Gummint!!!

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/reve ... -programme

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6690

by screwtape » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:34 am

David Frum continues his apostasy, to the point where he and Sam Harris can have a friendly conversation and agree that Trump is indefensible.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6689

by screwtape » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:30 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
SM1957 wrote: Greta Thunberg is making an environmental point by sailing across the Atlantic, not flying - to save CO2 emissions,

Five people are flying across to New York so they can sail the boat back.
Once upon a time, if you told me about millions of adults joining a thirteen-year-old retard's crusade to save the planet from destruction, I'd swear you were talking about a Kurt Vonnegut novel.
To take an autistic teenager with an eating disorder and other mental health issues and tell her the world is going to end and it's up to her to save it rather meets my definition of child abuse.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6688

by Matt Cavanaugh » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:07 am

SM1957 wrote: Greta Thunberg is making an environmental point by sailing across the Atlantic, not flying - to save CO2 emissions,

Five people are flying across to New York so they can sail the boat back.
Once upon a time, if you told me about millions of adults joining a thirteen-year-old retard's crusade to save the planet from destruction, I'd swear you were talking about a Kurt Vonnegut novel.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6687

by SM1957 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:56 am

Greta Thunberg is making an environmental point by sailing across the Atlantic, not flying - to save CO2 emissions,

Five people are flying across to New York so they can sail the boat back.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6686

by AndrewV69 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:04 pm

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6685

by KiwiInOz » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:42 pm

Keating wrote: So it's finally happened in real life. A person I unfortunately just met, with clear socialisation problems, is getting others to refer to them as "they". I'd give a clear pronoun myself, but I honestly can't tell.
What's wrong with "mate"? It is the perfect non gender specific catch all.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6684

by KiwiInOz » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:31 pm

Even Skunk Anansie's Skin thinks the modern woke are numpties.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6683

by Keating » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:45 pm

So it's finally happened in real life. A person I unfortunately just met, with clear socialisation problems, is getting others to refer to them as "they". I'd give a clear pronoun myself, but I honestly can't tell.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6682

by Keating » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:41 pm

Hunt wrote: We just found our first female president.

What a bitch.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6681

by Driftless » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:00 pm

More Wisconsin news:

https://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Insid ... 21981.html
Jeremiah Button’s jury trial in Portage County was just two weeks away when he disappeared in early 2016. Charged with first degree child sexual assault and possession of child pornography, Button had been out on a $25,000 cash bond for about a year and a half when he vanished.

That was when he built the bunker, he would later tell deputies with the Marathon County Sheriff’s Office. Carved into an embankment near the Ice Age Trail on state land in the township of Ringle and protected from sight by thickened underbrush that he himself had helped create, Button would escape detection from law enforcement for almost three and a half years until a concerned hunter called police last Friday, Aug. 9.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6680

by Matt Cavanaugh » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:47 am

Wow. Kamala Harris just called for banning gun sales "to those who make violent, hate-based threats online". Wanna bet that'd include mispronouning and 'deadnaming'?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6679

by CommanderTuvok » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:33 am

InfraRedBucket wrote: Even the "woke" Guardian is now transphobic..
The Guardian Newspaper Has Lost Two Trans Employees Over Its Reporting On Trans Issues
“It suddenly became real,” one trans staff member told BuzzFeed News. “I’m entering this building with people who are denying my humanity.”

A transgender employee of The Guardian – which once called itself the “world’s leading liberal voice” – has resigned accusing the newspaper in an email to staff of being “an incredibly transphobic organisation”.

In a cutting resignation letter sent last month, the employee said the paper “fundamentally not only stands against my own values but also against what I am”. A second staff member resigned weeks later, also citing the “harm” they say the newspaper is doing to trans people.

Following the leak of the email to BuzzFeed News, the trans employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said she felt complicit in the newspaper’s "transphobic" reporting by continuing to work there, and revealed the damaging effect the Guardian’s coverage of transgender people has had on her wellbeing. This included fear of using the women’s toilet at work.

Such editorial lines, she said, are a “blind spot” for the largely progressive publication which last month published a long read criticising other news outlets for their stigmatizing coverage of refugees, another marginalised group.

The former employee also said colleagues had made transphobic remarks to her.

Her resignation marks a flashpoint in what multiple sources at the Guardian have described to BuzzFeed News as a deepening internal war over the rights of transgender people – and how the organisation reports on them. Staff members across several departments accused the paper of “institutional transphobia”, peddling transphobic tropes, and allowing a bitter schism to develop between pro- and anti-trans journalists.
Shortly after, during two separate incidents at informal drinks with colleagues, one member of staff who had previously been Victoria’s friend at work defended the article, she said, and began citing trans women in sports as a reason to attack trans rights. Another colleague, she said, “poked fun” at her, asked if she was trans, and told her, “If you went to prison I’m not sure which prison you should go to.”
More here:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwi ... ransphobia
The Graun has printed the odd article that defends the TERF POV, and even those bent over backwards and scattered the usual caveats to state that they are not opposed to trans rights, etc.

But, despite many more pro-trans, anti-TERF articles appearing in the Graun, the "world's leading liberal voice" is not "woke" enough for the crazies.

Hate to tell them "I told you so".

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6678

by InfraRedBucket » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:23 am

Even the "woke" Guardian is now transphobic..
The Guardian Newspaper Has Lost Two Trans Employees Over Its Reporting On Trans Issues
“It suddenly became real,” one trans staff member told BuzzFeed News. “I’m entering this building with people who are denying my humanity.”


A transgender employee of The Guardian – which once called itself the “world’s leading liberal voice” – has resigned accusing the newspaper in an email to staff of being “an incredibly transphobic organisation”.

In a cutting resignation letter sent last month, the employee said the paper “fundamentally not only stands against my own values but also against what I am”. A second staff member resigned weeks later, also citing the “harm” they say the newspaper is doing to trans people.

Following the leak of the email to BuzzFeed News, the trans employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said she felt complicit in the newspaper’s "transphobic" reporting by continuing to work there, and revealed the damaging effect the Guardian’s coverage of transgender people has had on her wellbeing. This included fear of using the women’s toilet at work.

Such editorial lines, she said, are a “blind spot” for the largely progressive publication which last month published a long read criticising other news outlets for their stigmatizing coverage of refugees, another marginalised group.

The former employee also said colleagues had made transphobic remarks to her.

Her resignation marks a flashpoint in what multiple sources at the Guardian have described to BuzzFeed News as a deepening internal war over the rights of transgender people – and how the organisation reports on them. Staff members across several departments accused the paper of “institutional transphobia”, peddling transphobic tropes, and allowing a bitter schism to develop between pro- and anti-trans journalists.
Shortly after, during two separate incidents at informal drinks with colleagues, one member of staff who had previously been Victoria’s friend at work defended the article, she said, and began citing trans women in sports as a reason to attack trans rights. Another colleague, she said, “poked fun” at her, asked if she was trans, and told her, “If you went to prison I’m not sure which prison you should go to.”
More here:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwi ... ransphobia

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6677

by InfraRedBucket » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:47 am

Hunt wrote: At least in the 60s they had a sense of proportion. BTW what was it with double breasted jackets and the 60s?
Probably the Edwardian Dandy look (around late 60s) eg influenced by the Stones etc

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6676

by Hunt » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:15 am

At least in the 60s they had a sense of proportion. BTW what was it with double breasted jackets and the 60s?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6675

by Hunt » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:09 am

Believe it or not, this was 1980 uncontroversial:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6674

by Hunt » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:40 am

We just found our first female president.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6673

by InfraRedBucket » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:50 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6672

by Service Dog » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:41 pm

Ocasio's campaign finance business model... resembles Rebecca Watson's patreon contributors.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#6671

by Service Dog » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:40 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Hey, have you seen UnReal?
I've never heard of it. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks.

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