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Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3031

by shoutinghorse » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:27 pm

Lsuoma wrote: BAM! EU passes Article 11 and Article 13 copyright directives!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3030

by Matt Cavanaugh » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:22 pm

Service Dog wrote: ... and a big mess in my personal life, when my dog bit a stranger on the street, yesterday!
Under no circumstances let Animal Control take your dog. Send him to a friend and tell Animal Control he ran off.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3029

by SM1957 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:21 pm

Jeremy Corbyn held a vigil for the Muslims killed in Christchurch.

Contrast that with his description of the killing of Lee Rigby as , to quote his exact words - 'etcetera'.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3028

by free thoughtpolice » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:56 am

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3027

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:46 am

MarcusAu wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: BAM! EU passes Article 11 and Article 13 copyright directives!
For those not in the know - here's a link (which Google did not charge for):

https://www.itpro.co.uk/policy-legislat ... article-11
Sweet mother of Cthulu, I thought the US had problems with corporations controlling laws. That is some draconian shit.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3026

by Service Dog » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:43 am

John D wrote: Cook County drops all charges against Smollet and the Chicago cops and even Mayor Rahm Emanuel are PISSED!
Wow! What a crazy press conference! I think the mayor & cops are full of shit-- as far as Smollett being under any obligation to defend himself in court, rather than seek a dismissal-- or a deal-- or any defense available, avoiding court. I think it's amazing that the mayor & cops continue to denounce Smollett-- after his 'cloak of innocence' has clearly been restored by the court. On a human level, I appreciate the cops & mayor's willingness to stand-up for what they believe/ rather than do their duty-- which is clearly to stop harassing Smollett. But the cops & mayor's reward for the brave stand they're taking-- should be to be punished for this massive abuse of power. Not for shitstain-smollet, but for all the other people at the mercy of the State. We can't let all the other little-guy individuals be bullied like this.

I guess the cops & mayor are playing chicken with Smollett-- blatantly defaming an officially-innocent man-- because they know he doesn't dare face them in civil court & demand they treat him with the respect our system deserves. Smollett would be putting himself on trial, if he pursued a civil case. But... the cops & mayor lost! They need to fuck off from bothering Smollett! If they have any remaining anger or complaint-- it ALL needs to be directed at the DA's & Judges & cronyism on their own side... including any leaks or wrongdoing from the cops/ which helped bungle a fair conviction.

The last couple days have been so crazy. Mueller, Smollett... and a big mess in my personal life, when my dog bit a stranger on the street, yesterday! I'm bouncing off the walls with nervous energy.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3025

by MarcusAu » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:33 am

Lsuoma wrote: BAM! EU passes Article 11 and Article 13 copyright directives!
For those not in the know - here's a link (which Google did not charge for):

https://www.itpro.co.uk/policy-legislat ... article-11

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3024

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:31 am

In all seriousness, I understand that Foxx waited until all the police brass were at the CPD graduation ceremony to make the emergency announcement that charges were dropped. Not gonna go well when cops and prosecutors are at odds.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3023

by Lsuoma » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:19 am

BAM! EU passes Article 11 and Article 13 copyright directives!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3022

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:07 am

John D wrote:
Service Dog wrote: Chicago city govt has some 'splainin to do.
The city didn't drop the charges. The State's attorney of Cook Country dropped the charges. She had previously said she would recuse herself because she is friends with the Smollett family... but.... she decided to dismiss the charges instead.
Yes, well, it's been established on another thread that lack of charges, even from somebody with a vested interest in the defendant, means they must be innocent. So...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3021

by Service Dog » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:00 am

MarcusAu wrote: I am the Walrus.
Sam I Am, down with the program...



Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3020

by John D » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:56 am

Service Dog wrote: Chicago city govt has some 'splainin to do.
The city didn't drop the charges. The State's attorney of Cook Country dropped the charges. She had previously said she would recuse herself because she is friends with the Smollett family... but.... she decided to dismiss the charges instead.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3019

by John D » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:40 am

Cook County drops all charges against Smollet and the Chicago cops and even Mayor Rahm Emanuel are PISSED!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3018

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:35 am

The perceptions of ex-Soviet Bloc immigrants to Britain are quite informative. These 2 poles say that they immediately smelled something a bit off and familiar about the state of freedom in the UK.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3017

by MarcusAu » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:19 am

So it looks like the 'Captain Marvel' movie is doing fairly well at the box office.

https://variety.com/2019/film/box-offic ... 203170947/

as far as movies (and the related knock on cultural effects) go, expect more of the same...

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3016

by shoutinghorse » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:30 am

Service Dog wrote: Chicago city govt has some 'splainin to do.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3015

by Service Dog » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:26 am

Chicago city govt has some 'splainin to do.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3014

by shoutinghorse » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:15 am

Doctors, Engineers, Scientists. "Refugees Welcome"
The 27-year-old man, identified by Hungarian authorities as F. Hassan, is suspected of executing about 20 people in 2016, all family members of a person in Homs city who refused to join Islamic State, Hungarian prosecutors said….

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/03/hung ... amic-state

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by free thoughtpolice » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:07 am

ThreeFlanged Javis wrote:
The major nations of Europe,particularly, where the last thing the unskilled need is more competition driving down already meagre wages.
Yurp is a different country from Canada. A hard working kid that doesn't mind travelling a bit and gets into a trade can be pulling down more than 100k a year by the time they are in their mid 20s. Unskilled jobs don't pay that well but are readily available.
I posted this video on one of the other threads. It looks like the EU is at least trying to staunch the migrant flow.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3012

by mordacious1 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:28 am

Just announced:

OJ is joining Jussie to search for the real culprits.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3011

by Service Dog » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:03 am

InfraRedBucket wrote: Meanwhile....
Charges dropped against Empire actor Jussie Smollett

Lawyers for Empire actor Jussie Smollett, who was accused of lying to police about a racist and homophobic attack, say all the charges against him have been dropped.

The announcement comes following an "emergency" court appearance in Chicago.

Smollett, 36, who is black and openly gay, had been accused of hiring two men to help stage an attack in the early hours of 29 January.

More follows...
https://news.sky.com/story/charges-drop ... t-11675755
A less-dodgy link, with detailed coverage:

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/26 ... s-dropped/

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by InfraRedBucket » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:27 am

Meanwhile....
Charges dropped against Empire actor Jussie Smollett

Lawyers for Empire actor Jussie Smollett, who was accused of lying to police about a racist and homophobic attack, say all the charges against him have been dropped.

The announcement comes following an "emergency" court appearance in Chicago.

Smollett, 36, who is black and openly gay, had been accused of hiring two men to help stage an attack in the early hours of 29 January.

More follows...
https://news.sky.com/story/charges-drop ... t-11675755

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by John D » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:50 am

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: I'm wondering how aware the World is of the situation in South Africa right now. Our state power utility, Eskom is running a loadshedding schedule, a number of substations have gone pyrotechnic over a short period and they are supplementing with expensive (about R5/kWh as opposed to cents/kWh for coal) diesel turbines to keep the grid going. The Black Empowerment companies contracted to maintain the delivery system don't have the skills or equipment to maintain the oil coolant in the substation transformers so they go bang every now and then. Never mind, out of sight out of mind. Eskom has been having issues for 15 years with coal supplies, lack of power station maintenance and corruption yet the gov has still let it come to this, where they can't even supply demand in summer during an economic downturn. The basic cause is massive corruption, replacement of skilled engineers in the name of affirmative action and piss poor planning (related to the former causes). Given the poor condition of the infrastructure and the extra strain placed on the still functioning assets, the chances of another big capacity failure are high and that could bring the grid down. Nobody can say how long it would take to fire up the grid again. It could be days, weeks, months, or even longer. Chances are they'll blow up parts of the transmission grid if they jump the gun. We'd be back in the stone age without power. Taps would run dry, toilets would be unflushed, the banking system would die, communications would die, food delivery would be curtailed. Would there even be air travel out of the country after a few days? How would one get travel documents? Would the currency be worth anything? Whites and foreign store owners would be an endangered species. Before long there'd be mobs blockading the roads,looting houses and dragging the occupants out onto the streets. It is a very real possibility but people prefer to pretend it isn't because there isn't much they can do about it.

Never mind the state of the water supply, which is absolutely shocking, but people are becoming inured to this kind of thing. There is increasing unrest at the institutions which we still refer to as universities for some unfathomable reason and there are plenty of instances of general unruliness around the country.

On the subject of land expropriation, I used to think that the government was being vindictive, pandering and greedy, but it is dawning on people now that the real aim is state ownership of the land. Land is given to coops, but the state keeps ownership. This is very much in line with the Marxist bent of the ANC and it's partners. Many people assumed that the gravy train had blunted the ideological fervour of the ANC, but I don't think so.
Fucking hell. Horrible.... like a slow death from cancer.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

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by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:03 am

I'm wondering how aware the World is of the situation in South Africa right now. Our state power utility, Eskom is running a loadshedding schedule, a number of substations have gone pyrotechnic over a short period and they are supplementing with expensive (about R5/kWh as opposed to cents/kWh for coal) diesel turbines to keep the grid going. The Black Empowerment companies contracted to maintain the delivery system don't have the skills or equipment to maintain the oil coolant in the substation transformers so they go bang every now and then. Never mind, out of sight out of mind. Eskom has been having issues for 15 years with coal supplies, lack of power station maintenance and corruption yet the gov has still let it come to this, where they can't even supply demand in summer during an economic downturn. The basic cause is massive corruption, replacement of skilled engineers in the name of affirmative action and piss poor planning (related to the former causes). Given the poor condition of the infrastructure and the extra strain placed on the still functioning assets, the chances of another big capacity failure are high and that could bring the grid down. Nobody can say how long it would take to fire up the grid again. It could be days, weeks, months, or even longer. Chances are they'll blow up parts of the transmission grid if they jump the gun. We'd be back in the stone age without power. Taps would run dry, toilets would be unflushed, the banking system would die, communications would die, food delivery would be curtailed. Would there even be air travel out of the country after a few days? How would one get travel documents? Would the currency be worth anything? Whites and foreign store owners would be an endangered species. Before long there'd be mobs blockading the roads,looting houses and dragging the occupants out onto the streets. It is a very real possibility but people prefer to pretend it isn't because there isn't much they can do about it.

Never mind the state of the water supply, which is absolutely shocking, but people are becoming inured to this kind of thing. There is increasing unrest at the institutions which we still refer to as universities for some unfathomable reason and there are plenty of instances of general unruliness around the country.

On the subject of land expropriation, I used to think that the government was being vindictive, pandering and greedy, but it is dawning on people now that the real aim is state ownership of the land. Land is given to coops, but the state keeps ownership. This is very much in line with the Marxist bent of the ANC and it's partners. Many people assumed that the gravy train had blunted the ideological fervour of the ANC, but I don't think so.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3007

by MarcusAu » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:59 am

I am the Walrus.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3006

by shoutinghorse » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:46 am

It's not who you egg but where and why you egg.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... wDeqPydXq4

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3005

by MarcusAu » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:24 am

KiwiInOz wrote: My Dad had a ticket to go to the game, but chose not to because of the potential drama. He was furious about the game being cancelled. I think that he has forgiven d-i-l since.

Waikato (particularly Hamilton) in the early 80s was dead. Palmy for Uni in the mid 80s was ok - when the students were in town - dead at other times. We left NZ about 15 years ago and I am in two minds about going back. Wife would like to. There is a part of NZ that will always be my turangawaewae, so maybe.
They say you can't go home again - but it you wait long enough home might come to you.

https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/clando ... andon-park

I must make a point of going to see it...sometime...

Some might date the 'end of innocence' to the Waterfront strike of 1951 or to the battle of Chunuk Bair (or other activities in the Gallipoli campaign). WWII most likely had a similar effect for those involved.

Though not to trust politicians is a lesson each generation has to learn for itself.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3004

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:08 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:45 pm
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:02 pm
ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
I thought you lived in Canada!
Not sure what you mean. There is a lot of demand for the spectrum of low skilled jobs to well paid professionals in this area. Canada is a big country, maybe you are talking about a different hood?
The major nations of Europe,particularly, where the last thing the unskilled need is more competition driving down already meagre wages.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3003

by Brive1987 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:00 am

PZ still hasn’t acknowledged the Mueller whitewash. :lol: :lol:

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3002

by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:57 pm

SM1957 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
Youth unemployment in Italy is 30% Why do Italians need to import young people from Mali?
http://i.imgur.com/RjVGGby.jpg
But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3001

by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:25 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
Youth unemployment in Italy is 30% Why do Italians need to import young people from Mali?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#3000

by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:24 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
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Youth unemployment in Italy is 30% Why do Italians need to import young people from Mali?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2999

by KiwiInOz » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:26 pm

HunnyBunny wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
1981 saw that comfort upended. The Springboks were touring and the anti-Apartheid movement cranked into gear. Mass protests, games cancelled (my future wife was a 15 yo protester in the middle of the Waikato rugby ground - and said that she had never been so scared in her life, as the crowd wanted the lions released), families and friends split apart. The country had lost it's innocence.
It's a small world as they say. 1981 I was also 15, also on the field at Rugby Park, also scared shitless. And got in huge trouble after, because my Dad was there too, except he was a Police sergent in full riot gear. I remember the night before he brought home his newly issued riot baton, a heavy metal thing with a handle underneath, all the better for whacking hippy protesters with. He had no idea I was travelling the 45 minute journey to Hamilton with some friends the next day. Dad took a full large bottle of DB to the back, thrown by a rugby supporter pissed at the game being cancelled, and the injury marked the beginning of the end of his 35 yr police career.

It was also the beginning of the end of the age of innocence in NZ, as you mention, Lange won on a no-nukes platform, and then we had the Rainbow Warrior sinking. Fuck the French!

I left 20 years ago, spent most of my teens and 20s dreaming of getting out. The country, the attitudes, the smugness, the jobs-worthers, killed any sense of patriotic pride I once had, Maybe my view was coloured by going back to uni in my late 20s, to Waikato at the start of the PC brigade take-over. Tried to go back once, never again. A country has to have more than a friendly attitude and some pretty beaches.
My Dad had a ticket to go to the game, but chose not to because of the potential drama. He was furious about the game being cancelled. I think that he has forgiven d-i-l since.

Waikato (particularly Hamilton) in the early 80s was dead. Palmy for Uni in the mid 80s was ok - when the students were in town - dead at other times. We left NZ about 15 years ago and I am in two minds about going back. Wife would like to. There is a part of NZ that will always be my turangawaewae, so maybe.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2998

by free thoughtpolice » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:45 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:02 pm
ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
I thought you lived in Canada!
Not sure what you mean. There is a lot of demand for the spectrum of low skilled jobs to well paid professionals in this area. Canada is a big country, maybe you are talking about a different hood?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2997

by Lsuoma » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:57 pm

So, stay-at-home Brits: what does the latest move in Westminster portend? GE/second referendum/political assassination of TM? Either way, I'm sure the British public is going to have its arsehole seriously reamed.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2996

by HunnyBunny » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:40 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
1981 saw that comfort upended. The Springboks were touring and the anti-Apartheid movement cranked into gear. Mass protests, games cancelled (my future wife was a 15 yo protester in the middle of the Waikato rugby ground - and said that she had never been so scared in her life, as the crowd wanted the lions released), families and friends split apart. The country had lost it's innocence.
It's a small world as they say. 1981 I was also 15, also on the field at Rugby Park, also scared shitless. And got in huge trouble after, because my Dad was there too, except he was a Police sergent in full riot gear. I remember the night before he brought home his newly issued riot baton, a heavy metal thing with a handle underneath, all the better for whacking hippy protesters with. He had no idea I was travelling the 45 minute journey to Hamilton with some friends the next day. Dad took a full large bottle of DB to the back, thrown by a rugby supporter pissed at the game being cancelled, and the injury marked the beginning of the end of his 35 yr police career.

It was also the beginning of the end of the age of innocence in NZ, as you mention, Lange won on a no-nukes platform, and then we had the Rainbow Warrior sinking. Fuck the French!

I left 20 years ago, spent most of my teens and 20s dreaming of getting out. The country, the attitudes, the smugness, the jobs-worthers, killed any sense of patriotic pride I once had, Maybe my view was coloured by going back to uni in my late 20s, to Waikato at the start of the PC brigade take-over. Tried to go back once, never again. A country has to have more than a friendly attitude and some pretty beaches.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2995

by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:24 pm

Financial Times

Manchester attack brings Muslim integration into focus
https://www.ft.com/content/17e6311c-478 ... b4dd6296b8

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2994

by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:17 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Hunt wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

/Sermon
You hit the nail on the head there, especially how people talk themselves into more extreme positions. A lot of what I saw in the manifesto was just run of the mill alt right propaganda you would find on the Goldy/Southern type of rants verbatim. The great replacement, white genocide, bad old civic nationalism, loss of culture, invaders...
Apparently not too long ago he posted about what a nice trip he had to Pakistan, how nice the people were, what a beautiful country and how visas should be easier to get and Pakistan would get a lot more tourism. Odd it was even the same guy. My guess is that whatever purpose in life he had he lost and he replaced it with the politics of paranoia.
It’s not uncommon for traditionalists to welcome exotic culture which dominates its own host environment.

But for me, the killer’s motivation is still opaque. Was he really playing 4D chess to get accelerationism? Or was that just another layer of his onion world of memes? Was he actually active in the ID space and then got radicalised to murder? I haven’t seen any evidence he intellectually engaged with the topic pre looney tunes.

I’d put money down he is a chan basement dweller who latched onto tropes of convenience. IDism and COD were two mental cos play routines substituted for reality.

...

Goldy was interesting in her use of Statistics Canada data to back her demographic arguments. The manifesto I read did not have any such effort at structure or provision of evidence. In fact it was a pretty lame attempt at pulling threads together to form a non-argument. But that wasn’t his point, he cut and paste a stew of generalised talking points into a mashup. He was painting by numbers with a blindfold.

Re Hunt’s post.

A kumbaya economic-integrationist approach to migration is overly materialistic (ie it ignores the cultural) and doesn’t scale well. Ask Manchester, who wants its first world status back.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2993

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:15 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:02 pm
ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.
I thought you lived in Canada!

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2992

by free thoughtpolice » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:02 pm

ThreeFlangedJarvis wrote:
If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.
The real moral cowards are those people like Brievik and Tarrant that go out and murder people and internet demagogues like Goldy and Southern that whip anger and resentment about "the great replacement" but don't do their part by having kids themselves.
There aren't enough young people around now to fill the workforce here now, everywhere from farms, restaurants, resorts, skilled trades, and or professionals. I've needed work done in the last few years and you have long waits to get work done and pay a lot to get it done. And that is despite a quite a few immigrants that fit in well with the work force from farmworkers to physicians.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2991

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:32 pm

Hunt wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:22 pm
As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.
/Sermon
Of course Muslim immigration is not the cause of the decline of Xtianity or traditionalism. These things have happened naturally and are not something that your average anti-immigrant, anti-globalist European is blaming Islam for. Unfortunately Western society, I'm sure with the aid of the Soviet Union, has evolved an ideological elite who have no understanding of the achievements of their peoples and have no pride in their nations, just the opposite in fact. They have raised a privileged youth devoid of any historical perspective or understanding of the relationship between a people and their nation state. They are steeped in masochistic guilt and taught that their nation is the property of the world. This makes these nations vulnerable to rapid cultural change so that the country bequeathed to them by centuries of struggle by their forefathers starts becoming a generic nothing bereft of the important unique characteristics that provided them with a sense of identity and belonging. Kirb's idea of a kind of vanilla Western Enlightenment identity is a pale imitation. Enlightenment ideas are good, but they do not replace the need for a sense of belonging to a place or a people.
You have a broad culture in Islam which schizophrenically regards itself as the dog's bollocks while confronted with the the evidence that it 'aint shit. They come to Europe, for whatever reason, from macho cultures and are quite happy to show their contempt for the self-flagellating fools they find there. They see no reason to drop their sense of superiority and have no reason to integrate. One of the big problems with Islam is that even if some percentage of a generation becomes more moderate, the scriptures are still there and the community of believers is quite happy to remind them of their duty when the time comes. They are quite tribal. There is no question that replacement is happening. The demographic changes are significant, probably irreversible given that the political will amongst the ruling class to change is not there. You also have the snowballing feedback loop of immigrants voting for more immigration. Europeans are ceding political control to newcomers with alien value systems. No wonder they are frustrated, angry or despairing at having their objections muzzled. If you don't believe it's happening and deliberate, look up what Andrew Neather had to say about Tony Blair wanting to rub the right's noses in immigration.

I agree with a lot of what Tarrant had to say. He may be right about what is needed to reverse the situation, however the vast majority of people do not regard blowing brains out as something they want to do, thankfully, so they feel trapped and vent their frustrations online, where allowed to, and will probably fall into apathy at some point. There is always a percentage willing to use the shotgun option though. I have sympathy for aspects of their cause (not the racial purity crap), but definitely not their actions. If Europe has to regress socially and be racially replaced then I would rather very reluctantly accept that than initiate war against immigrants who mostly have no reason to think they've done anything wrong. Perhaps that makes me a moral coward, but I suspect it is how most people see it.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2990

by AndrewV69 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:25 pm

BTW, for those who may be interested:


The Population Turnover In Westernmost Europe Over The Last 8,000 Years

https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/wp-conte ... /spain.jpg
In the figure above you see an excellent representation of the different streams of ancestry and settlement within Spain over the last 8,000 years. You can conclude from it, for example, that only a small proportion of the ancestry of modern Spaniards derives from people who were residents of the peninsula during the Pleistocene. Similarly, you can also conclude that a minority, though non-trivial, proportion of the ancestry of modern-day Spaniards derives from people who arrived during Classical Antiquity and the Moorish period.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2989

by KiwiInOz » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:16 pm

Hunt wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

/Sermon
During the relatively recent G20 meeting in Brisbane (when Obama, Putin, Merkel etc visited), the mental health sector were particularly concerned because the increased security and publicity of security heightened the issues for those with anxiety and other conditions such as paranoid schizophrenia. Nobody went postal, but the dedicated beds in hospitals etc were full.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2988

by AndrewV69 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:52 pm

SM1957 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:28 am
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: As for the concept of a 'Great Replacement', I've actually been told with glee by the brownshirts at Patheos that I, old cis het white man, will be replaced, so get used to it, fragile snowflake.
There is no Great Replacement but a changing voting demographic will remove white people from government positions. leading to more BAME representation to reflect the new demographic,

Isn't that the same thing?
From what I see, pretty much so.

Not to mention that White people stopped breeding in sufficient numbers to support the various unsustainable entitlement ponzi schemes sponsored by government and the private sector. Additional pressure was applied due to people living a lot longer than they used to in the past.

We are seeing dysgenic effects when people who in the past would have been culled before they could reproduce, were nullified with advances in medicine and the abundance of cheap "food".

The fact that those of the top and middle ranks of the socioeconomic pyramid further reduced the quantity of their offspring meant that there were fewer and fewer numbers to populate the middle ranks of all sectors (administration, military, judicial etc.) with the upbringing and culture to maintain, never mind expand the structure of the various systems of government and industry means that increasingly stupid people making increasingly stupid decisions at the helm in all sectors.

Hence, immigration administered by the stupid, who are more than likely to be superficially educated way beyond their ability to understand much less utilise what they have been taught and unable to discard the nonsense theorys they have been steeped it.

As I have hinted earlier, it is not just immigration that is the issue. Immigration and the way it was implemented is just one example of the systematic and structural issues perpetuated by those who are increasingly incapable of maintaining the systems they have been entrusted with.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2987

by free thoughtpolice » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:39 pm

Hunt wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

/Sermon
You hit the nail on the head there, especially how people talk themselves into more extreme positions. A lot of what I saw in the manifesto was just run of the mill alt right propaganda you would find on the Goldy/Southern type of rants verbatim. The great replacement, white genocide, bad old civic nationalism, loss of culture, invaders...
Apparently not too long ago he posted about what a nice trip he had to Pakistan, how nice the people were, what a beautiful country and how visas should be easier to get and Pakistan would get a lot more tourism. Odd it was even the same guy. My guess is that whatever purpose in life he had he lost and he replaced it with the politics of paranoia.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2986

by Brive1987 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:26 pm


Prayers were led by representatives of the three Monotheistic Religions: Islam, Judaism and Christianity. I was surprised in the Iman's prayer by the similarity of the teaching about eternal life to the Catholic one.

The Muslim call to prayer echoed round the square and the names of the dead were read out, followed by two minutes silence. We then sang the New Zealand National Anthem. We were invited to sing various songs in Mãori before linking hands as a young Muslim woman read a Peace Poem she had composed. Of course, a New Zealand event wouldn't be complete without the Haka.
Bubble and squeak is a traditional British breakfast made from boiled potatoes and cabbage. In modern times it is a dish made with the shallow-fried leftover vegetables from a roast dinner. The main ingredients are potato and cabbage but carrots, peas, Brussels sprouts, or any other leftover vegetables may be added

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2985

by Hunt » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:22 pm

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it
As per his manifesto, he imagined himself a soldier. His objective was to kill as many "invaders" as possible and video while doing it, of course, to disseminate terror. He was unapologetically trying to instill terror. He had long ago talked himself out of seeing them as other than enemy combatants (of course they were unarmed sitting ducks).

True nutters are the ones who talk themselves into their madness, not the clinically mentally ill. Mentally ill people have brain illness. Those driven insane by their own thoughts do it to themselves. I guess what I'm saying is that the wealth of misinformation on the Internet can drive certain people nuts, and so logically those who seek to control it have a point. It's the counterargument to censorship that ultimately will defeat it, not that it doesn't make some kind of sense.

As with Breivik, the tragedy is that nobody sat this guy down and gave him a different perspective. He self-selected the information he needed to convince himself. Fact is, that European traditionalism isn't dying because of immigration. It's ludicrous to conclude that Christian demographics have declined in the last fifty years due to Muslim immigration. Euro society will hit a new equilibrium; immigrants will ultimately succumb to the temptations of modern life. Eventually they'll probably even lose their religion.

But as with all manifestos, from the Unibomber to Breivik, there are always a few nuggets of insight. Nobody has ever explained why diversity is intrinsically valuable in the majority of contexts. I'm not for or against it; just neutral on the subject. He was also correct that victors write history. "You will be revered, but you must win first" is unfortunately dead-on. I always wondered how the Nazis thought they would found the thousand year Reich and be extolled for doing it. Then I remember what we (Americans) did to the Indians. The terrible truth is that Might Makes Right, and King Arthur was full of shit. The Right of Conquest is as true today as it was at the height of colonialism. The ROC is why Israel has a right to exist. The ROC is the right of the done deal, the right that people have to live in peace despite the sins of their ancestors.

/Sermon

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2984

by SM1957 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:28 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: As for the concept of a 'Great Replacement', I've actually been told with glee by the brownshirts at Patheos that I, old cis het white man, will be replaced, so get used to it, fragile snowflake.
There is no Great Replacement but a changing voting demographic will remove white people from government positions. leading to more BAME representation to reflect the new demographic,

Isn't that the same thing?

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2983

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:14 am

As for the concept of a 'Great Replacement', I've actually been told with glee by the brownshirts at Patheos that I, old cis het white man, will be replaced, so get used to it, fragile snowflake.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2982

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:11 am

As Jordan Peterson observed, the far Left has been making waging a zero sum identity war for some time, with whites a one of the evil identities that must cede power, so it's not surprising that the far Right eventually said, 'fine, but we're gonna win.'

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2981

by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:00 am

Lsuoma wrote: I reckon Adern or whatever her name is is bucking for a Nobble prize.
If obama could get one for giving a speech, then surely Adern can get one for banning a speech.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2980

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:16 am

Watched the video, naughty contrarian that I am. Surprising lack of drama until about 11 min when he moves closer to the victims and you can see bullets impacting flesh. A definite video game feel to it. He was so matter of fact about it all, like a tradesman doing a routine job. Even his assessment afterward was incongruously calm and unemotional, as if he were looking back on a round of golf. Hard to know what to make of it. He must have known his life was effectively over, which makes his lack of emotion even stranger. I don't see the point of banning it

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2979

by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:08 am

Lsuoma wrote: I reckon Adern or whatever her name is is bucking for a Nobble prize. The publicity she is getting is going to her head. Leader of a country that's always getting left off maps suddenly finds herself on every front page. She's flicking the bean to all this, I'm sure
With apologies to Jen McReight - I think she might be champing at the bit.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2978

by Lsuoma » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:52 am

I reckon Adern or whatever her name is is bucking for a Nobble prize. The publicity she is getting is going to her head. Leader of a country that's always getting left off maps suddenly finds herself on every front page. She's flicking the bean to all this, I'm sure.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2977

by Bhurzum » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:31 am

MarcusAu wrote: Beware the King in Yellow.
It's his brother I'd be worried about.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2976

by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:51 am

Beware the King in Yellow.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2975

by ThreeFlangedJavis » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:42 am

Found the allegedly mesmeric manifesto. Obviously I had to go to Dailystormer to get it. Law of unintended consequences.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2974

by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:46 am

Hunt wrote: eeeeeem, rrrrrrrha, rrrrha, zimbickambala...... whitenationoecoterrorcandaceowens....eeeezzzzzz, UH.

No, I'm Ok, I'm Ok.
Trillian wrote:
...four to one against and falling...three to one...two...one...probability factor of one to one...we have normality, I repeat we have normality.

Anything you still can’t cope with is therefore your own problem.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2973

by Hunt » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:28 am

Well, now I've watched the video AND read the manifesto.

eeeeeem, rrrrrrrha, rrrrha, zimbickambala...... whitenationoecoterrorcandaceowens....eeeezzzzzz, UH.

No, I'm Ok, I'm Ok.

Re: You is all a bunch of poofs!

#2972

by MarcusAu » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:04 am

Bhurzum wrote:
MarcusAu wrote: There are some things man was not meant to know.
I'm OK to fantasize about the contents of Melody Hensley's knickers though, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

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