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Re: The Trump Dump!

#3008

by free thoughtpolice » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:30 pm

Commas are hard work, best used when dealing with idiots. I’m sure you understood my point.
I should have used a comma instead of a semicolon. Not really hard work, more of a minor mistake that doesn't really make my point that hard to understand. At least I'm not being pretentious and thinking that making garbled and/or intentionally obscure prose makes one look clever. :lol:

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3007

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:55 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: Brive wrote:
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My speculating that Abe may have received some relief from tariffs because of his sucking up to Trump is hardly in the realm of reptilian conspiracies. Abe has been very friendly to Trump and has been playing to Trump's ego from the beginning by going out of his way to be friendly and not to criticize him.
As for your ability to craft a sentence that makes sense; you lost it on the reptilian sentence.
ht...tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
Commas are hard work, best used when dealing with idiots. I’m sure you understood my point.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3006

by free thoughtpolice » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:56 pm

Brive wrote:
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My speculating that Abe may have received some relief from tariffs because of his sucking up to Trump is hardly in the realm of reptilian conspiracies. Abe has been very friendly to Trump and has been playing to Trump's ego from the beginning by going out of his way to be friendly and not to criticize him.
As for your ability to craft a sentence that makes sense; you lost it on the reptilian sentence.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3005

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:49 pm

The uncritical MSM / Democrat embrace of the ‘modern day lynching’ so soon after the embarrassment of Covington makes their bias appear less like ineptitude and more like agenda.

That should be an inescapable perception ...

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3004

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:44 pm

Murder not modern. Grrr.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3003

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:43 pm

John D wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!
I don't agree that the Right-wing nut job Coast Guard guy is being swept away. It was the second lead story yesterday on Fox's Special Report. They showed the number of guns the guy had, and explained about his notes about who he would target.

People know that there are nut jobs out there and this is the latest one. While this is a story about a horrible person, people have come to expect to find a wack-job like this every once in a while. To me, the real story on this Coast Guard guy would be to find out how the caught the guy before he hurt anyone. Good policing for the win! So, while this is a terrible man, few people are really surprised by this story.

The biggest reason, IMHO, the Smollett story is getting so much attention is that it is very unusual. The ego of Smollett is almost staggering. Go back and watch his interview. Wow. The other interesting thing is how fucking stupid the Nigerian brothers are. I laughed for a good solid minute when I heard the cops were able to find the magazines in their apartment that had the letters cut out of them. So... haha... they sent a fake threatening letter... and used magazine letters to make it untraceable... and... they didn't destroy the magazines. They just left them in their apartment. Haha.... what idiots. Cosmic level stupidity.... really.

The other reason the story is interesting is how the left is not condemning Smollett. They should be just as angry as the right... actually... they "should" be more angry with him. But, all the lefty people can say is something like "Well... okay... it didn't really happen....BUT... it COULD have happened." Pathetic.
I’m still trying to understand the broader relevance. Was the idiot’s plans in alignment with MSM themes or direct political clarion calls? Does it demonstrate a growing and tolerated assassination movement?

Energised politics is like fly paper and America has plenty of blowies on the wing.

If the dude was going to do a clearing patrol along the border there may have been a more meaningful connection. Especially if he formed the tip of a discernible spear. Are vigilante Trump inspired Texan modern squads on the rise?

CFB hasn’t enacted any labour - and thus hasn’t raised let alone proved a point.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3002

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:30 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: A lot of the left is condemning Smollett. A lot of us never bought into it in the first place. They're certainly not sweeping Smollet's apparent guilt under the rug, even in the liberal press.
The left appear to be latching onto the money motive as the thing to criticise - not the cheap anti white anti Trump identity victim politics. Because the new-left know and value oppression more than they value truth which distracts from this worldview.

It’s very fair to say that the MSM bought into the narrative immediately and enthusiastically. Which is an important litmus test of their credibility. The fact the current crop of Demo-nominees also jumped into the wagon should sound huge alarm bells. Far worse than Trump’s comment that there were bad faith actors on both sides of the civil war statue protests.

It’s also fair to say that the common Smollett walk back was along the “let’s wait and see” line, hardly offsetting the initial vibe of “modern day lynching”.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3001

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:22 pm

We have rolling goal posts.

Glad you now accept there was a flow from your comment to mine, even if you didn’t appreciate the point.
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My suggesting I need strategies to deal with that absurdity (‘deal with it’, help groups) again underlines the risks of fantasy.

Re ‘what about’- CFB brought up the concept of normality around the Nobel process to give the orange man a jab. It’s relevant to point out there is significant dysfunction and (usually publicised) cheap lobbying built into the system.

Hope this straightens things out for you.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#3000

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:15 pm

John D wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!
I don't agree that the Right-wing nut job Coast Guard guy is being swept away. It was the second lead story yesterday on Fox's Special Report. They showed the number of guns the guy had, and explained about his notes about who he would target.

People know that there are nut jobs out there and this is the latest one. While this is a story about a horrible person, people have come to expect to find a wack-job like this every once in a while. To me, the real story on this Coast Guard guy would be to find out how the caught the guy before he hurt anyone. Good policing for the win! So, while this is a terrible man, few people are really surprised by this story.

The biggest reason, IMHO, the Smollett story is getting so much attention is that it is very unusual. The ego of Smollett is almost staggering. Go back and watch his interview. Wow. The other interesting thing is how fucking stupid the Nigerian brothers are. I laughed for a good solid minute when I heard the cops were able to find the magazines in their apartment that had the letters cut out of them. So... haha... they sent a fake threatening letter... and used magazine letters to make it untraceable... and... they didn't destroy the magazines. They just left them in their apartment. Haha.... what idiots. Cosmic level stupidity.... really.

The other reason the story is interesting is how the left is not condemning Smollett. They should be just as angry as the right... actually... they "should" be more angry with him. But, all the lefty people can say is something like "Well... okay... it didn't really happen....BUT... it COULD have happened." Pathetic.
A lot of the left is condemning Smollett. A lot of us never bought into it in the first place. They're certainly not sweeping Smollet's apparent guilt under the rug, even in the liberal press.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2999

by free thoughtpolice » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:26 pm

I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it.
That sentence doesn't make any sense. What does "and then deal with it" have to do with your purported assumption that Trump is a reptilian? Word salad worthy of a Sarah Palin brainfart. :roll:
Obama getting the Nobel when he didn't deserve it doesn't negate the sleazy classless act of Trump lobbying Abe for the nomination and then bragging about getting it. Bringing it up is just BS whataboutism that attempts to deflect the point.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2998

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:06 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.

As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
You assumed an argument. I was making the point that “assume” makes an ass out of u and me.
No, you just made an ass out of yourself by spouting nonsense and then claiming you achieved something.

It’s really not hard to go back to the root post.
Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?

What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.

Objective met.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2997

by free thoughtpolice » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:54 am

Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.

As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
You assumed an argument. I was making the point that “assume” makes an ass out of u and me.
No, you just made an ass out of yourself by spouting nonsense and then claiming you achieved something.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2996

by John D » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:42 am

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!
I don't agree that the Right-wing nut job Coast Guard guy is being swept away. It was the second lead story yesterday on Fox's Special Report. They showed the number of guns the guy had, and explained about his notes about who he would target.

People know that there are nut jobs out there and this is the latest one. While this is a story about a horrible person, people have come to expect to find a wack-job like this every once in a while. To me, the real story on this Coast Guard guy would be to find out how the caught the guy before he hurt anyone. Good policing for the win! So, while this is a terrible man, few people are really surprised by this story.

The biggest reason, IMHO, the Smollett story is getting so much attention is that it is very unusual. The ego of Smollett is almost staggering. Go back and watch his interview. Wow. The other interesting thing is how fucking stupid the Nigerian brothers are. I laughed for a good solid minute when I heard the cops were able to find the magazines in their apartment that had the letters cut out of them. So... haha... they sent a fake threatening letter... and used magazine letters to make it untraceable... and... they didn't destroy the magazines. They just left them in their apartment. Haha.... what idiots. Cosmic level stupidity.... really.

The other reason the story is interesting is how the left is not condemning Smollett. They should be just as angry as the right... actually... they "should" be more angry with him. But, all the lefty people can say is something like "Well... okay... it didn't really happen....BUT... it COULD have happened." Pathetic.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2995

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:50 am

Poles :lol: polls.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2994

by Brive1987 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:49 am

Old_ones wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Where left liberal five thirty eight discuss the wonderful lurch to the left, 30mins of intersectional social justice and how Bernie is stuffed because all he has is dime a dozen free stuff - but he isn’t a black woman.

FTB writ large.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/po ... omination/
Did you actually listen to this podcast? The one I heard was an analysis of what advantages and disadvantages Sanders has with Democratic primary voters. Having that analysis without discussing demographics and identity would be assinine, particularly when Clinton smoked Sanders with Black voters, who are a significant Democratic constituency. I must have missed the point where Silver et al. expressed opinions on whether the Democratic party's leftward shift is good, or whether identity voting should be a significant factor in the Democratic primary. Maybe you need to look up the is/ought problem, if you don't understand what I'm on about. The fact that fivethirtyeight explores political considerations that demonstrably exist in the Democratic party doesn't mean they are endorsing them. They do this with republicans as well.

On that note, here is another ideological blowhard denouncing 538 for doing statistical modeling, instead of peddling the correct virtue signals:
PZ Myers wrote:Also, I’m more than a little tired of anything to do with Nate Silver, who is the political equivalent of a horse racing tout. Don’t care. Shut up about polls, tell me more about policy.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -it-again/

So you can see who else shares your inability to understand any political reasoning that isn't explicitly value driven.
Surprisingly I listen to them on a regular basis. I even manage to (usually) keep my lunch down listening to the asinine Pod Save America. Which probably makes me the most roundly informed person in the room,when it comes to polar viewpoints.

538 are unabashedly partisan Democrat. I mean really. Jody, Julia. Gallen and Micah :lol:

They may not wear their progressive values on their sleeves as aggressively as Pod Cast America. But my point was, as they pointed out:

+ there is a definite left lurch.
+ the socialist trend was rolling pre 2016 but had a major injection of momentum from Bernie
+ there is huge Dem alignment to minority and gender specific support bases
+ for 2020, intersectional identity politics will deliniate the otherwise vanilla left economic field
+ consequently Bernie is pretty much screwed.
+ Bernie’s only hope is to turn his 15% (or was it 30%? They kept changing) support into a Trump like catalyst.
+ they didn’t sound confident They weren’t exactly in mourning either.
+ PZ would have felt at home. Very little mention of poles. It was all SJ approved topics of identity.

....

In general, there is a very comfortable focus on race/gender on left centric podcasts like TYT, 538 et al. It is often far more explicitly stated than on the dreaded right commentaries like Wife with a Purpose. Being pro oppressed minority does not incur the same opprobrium as that garnered by supporters of traditional European society.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2993

by Kirbmarc » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:18 pm

Old_ones wrote: On that note, here is another ideological blowhard denouncing 538 for doing statistical modeling, instead of peddling the correct virtue signals:
PZ Myers wrote:Also, I’m more than a little tired of anything to do with Nate Silver, who is the political equivalent of a horse racing tout. Don’t care. Shut up about polls, tell me more about policy.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -it-again/

So you can see who else shares your inability to understand any political reasoning that isn't explicitly value driven.
Myers is really a whining moron. There are countless people discussing policy, and he gets pissy at Silver, who runs a website about polling, for talking about polling.

He's the kind of guy who goes at a Chinese restaurant and gets made that they don't sell cheeseburgers.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2992

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:22 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2991

by Old_ones » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:14 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Where left liberal five thirty eight discuss the wonderful lurch to the left, 30mins of intersectional social justice and how Bernie is stuffed because all he has is dime a dozen free stuff - but he isn’t a black woman.

FTB writ large.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/po ... omination/
Did you actually listen to this podcast? The one I heard was an analysis of what advantages and disadvantages Sanders has with Democratic primary voters. Having that analysis without discussing demographics and identity would be assinine, particularly when Clinton smoked Sanders with Black voters, who are a significant Democratic constituency. I must have missed the point where Silver et al. expressed opinions on whether the Democratic party's leftward shift is good, or whether identity voting should be a significant factor in the Democratic primary. Maybe you need to look up the is/ought problem, if you don't understand what I'm on about. The fact that fivethirtyeight explores political considerations that demonstrably exist in the Democratic party doesn't mean they are endorsing them. They do this with republicans as well.

On that note, here is another ideological blowhard denouncing 538 for doing statistical modeling, instead of peddling the correct virtue signals:
PZ Myers wrote:Also, I’m more than a little tired of anything to do with Nate Silver, who is the political equivalent of a horse racing tout. Don’t care. Shut up about polls, tell me more about policy.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -it-again/

So you can see who else shares your inability to understand any political reasoning that isn't explicitly value driven.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2990

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:21 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: five thirty eight
So we aren’t going to address five thirty eight / Democrats turning into mini-horde? Or the Virginia debacle? Or the real Smollett / Covington story which is the media collusion behind SJ identity politics?

Ok.

Who was this terrorist dude and how is he different to your standard sovereign citizen bozo? And what broader trend is he illustrating? Maga-bomber? I’m sure this is the very most important story in the land.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ist-democ/
He planned a hit on prominent Democrats and pundits. It is a big story, And do you not remember the MAGA bomber?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October ... g_attempts
Or another MAGA?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsbu ... e_shooting
Or you'd rather look at an actor seeking attention. MAGA indeed. The Virginia debacle and 538 are right wing distractions and idiot purity tests. Both of which are fully illustrated by the right.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2989

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:04 pm



This story, encapsulated in this tweet, is about CNN and fake-agenda news.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2988

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:51 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: five thirty eight
So we aren’t going to address five thirty eight / Democrats turning into mini-horde? Or the Virginia debacle? Or the real Smollett / Covington story which is the media collusion behind SJ identity politics?

Ok.

Who was this terrorist dude and how is he different to your standard sovereign citizen bozo? And what broader trend is he illustrating? Maga-bomber? I’m sure this is the very most important story in the land.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2987

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:25 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?

What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.

Objective met.
What fraud, exactly? I admit he's a bit of a disappointment in a few respects, but becoming the first African-American POTUS is an achievement. And stating Trump is a bringer of world peace is so ludicrous as to make me wonder about you. He's being played by Putin, which can backfire spectacularly. He threatens Venezuela and Iran regularly, and when he finds out Kim and Putin "I don't care, I believe Putin" was lying, may react as a typical narcissist reacts. Poorly.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2986

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:17 pm

Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2985

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:12 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.

I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.

And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.
The assumption the Clinton was planning on an armageddon in Korea is strictly right wing fearmongering. Or I suppose you'll provide some proof?
Well it’s a balance of probability thing. Much like the assumptions underpinning BO’s award. I guess track record is all you have to go on .....
Which wars did she engineer? She got righteous shit for going along with the Bush ventures. Goddamn weak sauce.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2984

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:34 pm

Re
As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
The clash of ideas and ideology requires framing and contrast. Be it via manifesto or meme.

Trump progressed Korean detente. It should be, but won’t be, widely recognised. This speaks volumes.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2983

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:30 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.

As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.
You assumed an argument. I was making the point that “assume” makes an ass out of u and me.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2982

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:28 pm

Where left liberal five thirty eight discuss the wonderful lurch to the left, 30mins of intersectional social justice and how Bernie is stuffed because all he has is dime a dozen free stuff - but he isn’t a black woman.

FTB writ large.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/po ... omination/

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2981

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:22 pm

Damn autocorrect.
You assume Trump is a stealth reptilian? And then deal with it? Are you drunk Brive?
I'm not much for groups like AA or Planned Parenthood or other ones for that matter. The pit is about as much of a club I've joined.

As for "objective met". Do you measure human progress as some kind of immature "liberal pwning" and triggering?
This is really a awkward recycling of gamesmanship theory only even more vapid when using the internet to magnify the petty message.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2980

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:21 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.

I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.

And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.
The assumption the Clinton was planning on an armageddon in Korea is strictly right wing fearmongering. Or I suppose you'll provide some proof?
Well it’s a balance of probability thing. Much like the assumptions underpinning BO’s award. I guess track record is all you have to go on .....

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2979

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:59 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.

I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?

What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.

Objective met.
I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2978

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:23 pm


Oh, those wacky MAGA folks. Although, to be fair, I haven't checked the definitive site of Infowars to see if this was a false flag operation like they claimed for the MAGA bomber. Or did they actually apologize and retract for that? Or just memory-hole the unpleasant narrative?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2977

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:16 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.

I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.

And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.
The assumption the Clinton was planning on an armageddon in Korea is strictly right wing fearmongering. Or I suppose you'll provide some proof?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2976

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:16 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.
I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?

What the Nobel theatre did do was cast a spotlight on Obama’s fraud and the corresponding hypocrisy of denying the gong to the bringer of world peace - because he was orange.

Objective met.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2975

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:12 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.
I assume you meant “Japanese”. Regardless, I will defer to your inside knowledge of what consistites normal innocent country level lobbying.

I’d give Trumpie a gong for stopping Hillary from bombing Libya North Korea.

And yeah. The current normalisation process must be a coincidence to Trumps input. Just like the annoyingly persistent Obama-economy.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2974

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:17 pm

Trump bragging about getting the nomination after they lobbied for it is new typical. I assume that japan getting tariffs lifted from steel imports while Canada and Mexico are stuck with them is reward for Abe stroking the ego of this mental case.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2973

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:11 pm


Now that's funny.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2972

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:04 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
Neither was Obama’s award for being black.
What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.
I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.

In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
NP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?

GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prize

Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?
Ah, the blithe dismissal "orange man bad." But you see, the problem is, Orange Man IS Bad! A narcissist, egomaniac and criminal. Facing more legal troubles than Nixon, having actually accomplished very little for the average Republican voter, and just generally being a turd of a human being. He embodies the politics of hate, wherein people hate the Democrats/liberals so much they go all TDS, just pro. They excuse every tweet, every violation of political norms, the emoluments clause, the nepotism, the election felonies, the philandering and the countless lies so they can "own the libs." Not a terribly great long-term strategy.
Perhaps. But what’s that to do with Trump following apparent SOP for Nobel prizes?
Lobbying isn't unusual. Asking the US govt to do it on behalf of a sitting president is unusual. And the prize for what, exactly? Getting played by Kim Jong-Un? North Korea has in no way disarmed, they've a masterminded a campaign that makes them get what they want for flattering Trump. All PR, smoke and mirrors.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2971

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:28 pm


Huh, another terrorist. Those fucking libs...oops, white nationalists. Read the thread and enjoy!

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2970

by free thoughtpolice » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:41 am

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2969

by Brive1987 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:35 am

Kirbmarc wrote:
Though I guess that you could argue he's pushing "socialist fantasy". :bjarte:
It should go without saying.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2968

by Kirbmarc » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:01 am

I think that Sanders IS going to be attacked by the wokes, and especially by Kamala Harris, who is definitely going to exploit her own identity in the primaries. But in the long run, when it'll come to the race for the presidency, that's going to be toned down to a degree.

Anyway, no matter who's the Democratic candidate, Trump is going to have to deal with a much stronger opposition than in 2016. The SocJus stuff is unlikely to hurt the Democrats too much if they're running against Trump, especially if they tone down the "wypipo suck" part and focus it on Trump's words and actions (which will happen). Trump is actually a good lighting rod for the SocJus concerns.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2967

by Kirbmarc » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:51 am

For most of the other candidates the SJW bullshit is largely performative, to look progressive for the media. It's like Republicans blathering about god and family values.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2966

by Kirbmarc » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:48 am

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: I believe, Brive, you're indulging in the category error that all Democrats are necessarily SJW, rather than simply paying lip service to potential voters. Just as Republicans talk tough on illegal immigration, until you look at their maids and groundskeepers. Saying all Democrats are SJW is like saying all Republicans are election cheats and criminals. Some are, but by no means all.

And there is a good deal of racism, real racism left in the western world. Pretending everything is made up, Smollett-style is unhelpful and untrue. It's far better than SJWs claim, but by no means absent.
I’m saying the current crop of Democrat Presidential candidates are spouting SJW bullshit (and/or socialist fantasy) and suffering as a consequence.
Sanders doesn't seem to be on board with a lot of SJW bullshit:
H]ere is my point -- and this is where there is going to be a division within the Democratic Party. It is not good enough for somebody to say, 'I'm a woman, vote for me.' No, that’s not good enough. What we need is a woman who has the guts to stand up to Wall Street, to the insurance companies, to the drug companies, to the fossil fuel industry.

In other words, one of the struggles that you’re going to be seeing in the Democratic Party is whether we go beyond identity politics. I think it’s a step forward in America if you have an African-American CEO of some major corporation. But you know what, if that guy is going to be shipping jobs out of this country, and exploiting his workers, it doesn’t mean a whole hell of a lot whether he’s black or white or Latino.
Though I guess that you could argue he's pushing "socialist fantasy". :bjarte:

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2965

by Brive1987 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
Neither was Obama’s award for being black.
What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.
I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.

In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
NP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?

GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prize

Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?
Ah, the blithe dismissal "orange man bad." But you see, the problem is, Orange Man IS Bad! A narcissist, egomaniac and criminal. Facing more legal troubles than Nixon, having actually accomplished very little for the average Republican voter, and just generally being a turd of a human being. He embodies the politics of hate, wherein people hate the Democrats/liberals so much they go all TDS, just pro. They excuse every tweet, every violation of political norms, the emoluments clause, the nepotism, the election felonies, the philandering and the countless lies so they can "own the libs." Not a terribly great long-term strategy.
Perhaps. But what’s that to do with Trump following apparent SOP for Nobel prizes?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2964

by Brive1987 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:08 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: I believe, Brive, you're indulging in the category error that all Democrats are necessarily SJW, rather than simply paying lip service to potential voters. Just as Republicans talk tough on illegal immigration, until you look at their maids and groundskeepers. Saying all Democrats are SJW is like saying all Republicans are election cheats and criminals. Some are, but by no means all.

And there is a good deal of racism, real racism left in the western world. Pretending everything is made up, Smollett-style is unhelpful and untrue. It's far better than SJWs claim, but by no means absent.
I’m saying the current crop of Democrat Presidential candidates are spouting SJW bullshit (and/or socialist fantasy) and suffering as a consequence.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2963

by free thoughtpolice » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:29 pm

I like beer!

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2962

by KiwiInOz » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:14 pm

Yeah? So they just read the transcript. I thought they were supposed to make funny stuff up. 2/10

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2961

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:40 pm

Trump does a good thing!

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2960

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:25 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2959

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:12 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: It's not just lefties that fake attacks for political points. Remeber the deep state trying to poison Roger Stone so they could blame it n the Russians?
Only the best people. The funny thing is that if the parties were reversed, you'd see Republicans decrying this as absolute proof that whoever hired that slimeball was to incompetent to run a gas station, let alone a country. Tribalism does weird things to people.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2958

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:08 pm

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2957

by free thoughtpolice » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:13 pm

It's not just lefties that fake attacks for political points. Remeber the deep state trying to poison Roger Stone so they could blame it n the Russians?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2956

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:47 pm

I believe, Brive, you're indulging in the category error that all Democrats are necessarily SJW, rather than simply paying lip service to potential voters. Just as Republicans talk tough on illegal immigration, until you look at their maids and groundskeepers. Saying all Democrats are SJW is like saying all Republicans are election cheats and criminals. Some are, but by no means all.

And there is a good deal of racism, real racism left in the western world. Pretending everything is made up, Smollett-style is unhelpful and untrue. It's far better than SJWs claim, but by no means absent.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2955

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:39 pm

What do you know, election fraud. Republican, of course.

This and the absentee ballots. I wonder why Trump isn't tweeting about it?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2954

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:33 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Race SJWism has taken down two Dem Pres candidates. A third (Corry) has lurched out of orbit.

Now Commie (free stuff) Sanders is rolling.

Biden really needs to pour some oil on the waves.

Brive1987 wrote: Race SJWism has taken down two Dem Pres candidates. A third (Corry) has lurched out of orbit.

Now Commie (free stuff) Sanders is rolling.

Biden really needs to pour some oil on the waves.

Didn't Trump get taken in as well? "It doesn't get worse than that." ? Political figures are required to say things after an attack. For real fun, look up Donald Trump and the Central Park Five. Hilarious stuff.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2953

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:27 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
Neither was Obama’s award for being black.
What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.
I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.

In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
NP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?

GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prize

Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?
Ah, the blithe dismissal "orange man bad." But you see, the problem is, Orange Man IS Bad! A narcissist, egomaniac and criminal. Facing more legal troubles than Nixon, having actually accomplished very little for the average Republican voter, and just generally being a turd of a human being. He embodies the politics of hate, wherein people hate the Democrats/liberals so much they go all TDS, just pro. They excuse every tweet, every violation of political norms, the emoluments clause, the nepotism, the election felonies, the philandering and the countless lies so they can "own the libs." Not a terribly great long-term strategy.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2952

by Brive1987 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:57 pm

Race SJWism has taken down two Dem Pres candidates. A third (Corry) has lurched out of orbit.

Now Commie (free stuff) Sanders is rolling.

Biden really needs to pour some oil on the waves.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2951

by Brive1987 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:18 pm

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: https..://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1097281800362172417
You know, that's not normal.
Neither was Obama’s award for being black.
What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.
I’m questioning the concept of “normal” as clearly winning a gong for what you might do is nonsensical.

In any case, according to one of the committee lobbying by countries (and harnessing support) is a common but fraught activity.
NP Do countries lobby for their Nobel contenders?

GL Most of the lobbying is of an innocent nature. They try to collect as many signatures of support for the candidate as possible. But if you know anything about Norwegian mentality, lobbying a Norwegian quickly becomes counterproductive.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/sec ... ious-prize

Do you research any of your comments or is it just “orange man bad”?

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2950

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:01 am

Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
You know, that's not normal.
Neither was Obama’s award for being black.
What are you talking about? His Nobel was quite different. No foreign govt pressured to nominate him.

Re: The Trump Dump!

#2949

by CaptainFluffyBunny » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:00 am


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